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How Halo 3 Uses Mystery to CAPTIVATE (ft. Frogarchist)
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- Special thanks to @frogarchist for his collaboration in this video!
If you could describe Halo 3 in one word, what would it be? If you ask me it would definitely be MYSTERY. The one throughline that connects the original trilogy together and gives us a satisfying conclusion to Bungie's story is exactly that. In this video essay, I dive into the mystery surrounding Bungie's Halo 3.
Make sure to check out my other videos on the original Halo trilogy, as well as my essay and tribute to Rooster Teeth's Red vs. Blue! Let me know what game, show, or movie I should discuss next in the comments. Thanks for watching! #themysteryofhalo #halo3 #bungie
Check out my other work on Instagram: @themeaninginbetween.
Thanks for letting me be in your video 🙂
Always a pleasure!
@@themeaninginbetweenthanks for letting me be your video too!
I always wonder how a frog leaves comments on YT 🤯
It's refreshing to see a video discussing halo as it was in 2007 rather than what halo is now. People often forget that for years halo 3 was the end of halo and the master chief, an ending I still think was perfect. Halo 3 is my favourite in the series despite the flaws in the campaigns writing and pacing. It really felt like the end of halo back in 2007 especially with "never forget" in the main menu.
The series hasn't felt the same since 2007 and it's a shame there's no way to experience what it was originally
Never Forget will forever be my favorite soundtrack of all time
Did you know that in the original Halo 3 menu Never Forget from the Halo 3 OST does not play. Unforgotten from Halo 2 is what plays. In the menu of the Halo 3 Mythic disc however Never Forget does indeed play.
We all must collectively forget and shun 343industries' "stories"
Frogarchist? I was literally just watching a video of his
"A sense of wonder that was never meant to be squashed by someone's attempts to fill in the gaps" 11:59
Makes me think of a certain quoted philosophy in the world of music:
"The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between"
Cant help but see the analogy there with mystery as a device in storytelling/world-building
Outstanding discussions in these videos 👍👍
Covering the ODST Dante's Inferno subtext and subsequent dovetailing of the B-plot is always a hit amongst Halo fans, even if well known already. Given your background and gusto, that'd probably be a good video to tackle someday.
My gut instinct is always going to be to tell other writers to write what you love (then cull your darlings of course) and while I'd love to write about the ODST subtext, I'm working on my own Halo video essay that's pretty much something mostly specific to me, but am hoping to explain why it impacts me so much. And that alone keeps me motivated.
Long-winded way of saying, write videos about Halo that make you happy, I'm going to support them regardless because I respect your take on the franchise you provide a perspective and presentation outside my own.
This dude only having 1.28k subscribers is a crime, at least 500k
I'm so happy to see someone give Halo 3's story the props it deserves. Feels like some people have turned hard on it in recent years. But you've definitely laid out some of its triumphs, and reasons why I love it so to this day.
On another note, great content to start this channel out with! Your videos are really well-shot and edited, and your insight is incredibly captivating. If I could suggest just one game to dissect (provided you're into boomer shooters), it'd be Dusk. It has immaculate atmosphere and a really compelling narrative that's only really drip-fed to the player, in my opinion. I'd love to see your explanation of a story like that. Otherwise, I wish you the best of luck with your future videos!
Your content is on another level! Keep it up🔥
Nice to see the frog himself make an appearance too!
13:50 Goddamn, dude. Nearly brought me to tears. Thinkin' about the ending to season 13 of Red vs. Blue. Excellent video!
I just finished Halo 3 two days ago. It was incredible, creepy, mysterious, and so fun. A truly great game.
Man, you knocked it out of the park on this analysis of Halo 3 tailers. There was a ton of hype. And that's real. But the message of hope... the idea that MC (In other words we) could finish the fight was so real. Love this stuff man. Keep it up.
I love seeing your channel pop off. You really deserve it!😎
While Halo 2 is my all-time favorite, Halo 3 is quite an epic conclusion to a magnificent trilogy.
I feel the same way!
"Halo 4 a good interpretation"
I mean... It's an interpretation, I agree. Lol
Old halo is best halo for sure. The forerunners should have stayed mostly a mystery(and human)
When I watch people's videos about old Halo, some of them GET certain elements of what made those older games so great. After watching some of your videos, You really understand and have also reminded me how deep the old games went with their story and themes. I've been recently letting myself get gaslit into thinking that Halo has always had a simple story but that obviously isn't the case, and I love these types of videos that put a spotlight on the writing of the old games and what made them so special.
Glad the frog brought me to your channel, immediately subscribed, really enjoy your content
Wait a second, thats a frog!
No 343i interpretation of the Forerunners is not compatible with the Bungie games. We were given very little but what we were given repeatedly re-enforced that Humans were Forerunner. Even if the Greg Bear novels contradicted nothing, that part of the backstory should never have been filled in like that. Continue to let us wonder about the mysterious ancient Humans and drip feed us info in the games and books set in the modern (26th century) time. Immediately answering all those questions spoiled a lot of fun conversations and theorizing Halo fans could still be having. Introducing the Didact alive 100,000 years later was one of the worst decisions they could have made.
So say we all!
Wait till you find out it was Bungie that made the Foreruners humans :3
@@HeroesUnite. Does Phillibetrus disagree?
Already liked this guy's vids now the frog is here?! Hell yeah
I could talk for HOURS about BioShock. I'd love to hear your takes on the series!
A flood deep dive videox2ould go crazy. Also, can you please analyze all the halo gam3s?
Next up on the halo video guest list: B00mrang, the creator of the micro hit machinima series CRASH.
The production value is crazy for all your vids, the intro caught me off guard with the trailer reference
I found this video when it had 343 views and had been released 7 hours ago. Real life easter egg.
Also, the Marathon series would make for a good transition if you wanted something like a through-line. I describe it to other people as "Proto-Halo," but it's got its own uniquely rich and mysterious universe.
Haha nice!
MY TWO FAVORITE RUclipsRS
Great video! Keep them coming!
Dude this video is amazing, thanks for posting
I feel like you didn’t mention the Ark, the installation where all others came from
Wow, this was a great video! Immediately got my sub 🖤 Halo 3 is something special
Thank you for making this video
Hey man just letting you know, that on the minute 8:30 that’s not an Egypt pyramid, that’s a Mexican pyramid in Teotihuacán, the pyramid of the sun.
Wow, good catch! Honestly just grabbed some footage of pyramids from stock footage to get the point across. Thanks for the feedback!
@@themeaninginbetween it’s all good! Great video dude!
@@themeaninginbetween I wanna elaborate a bit that, the pyramid of the sun is actually a better and more interesting example than the pyramids of Giza; Teotihuacán wasn’t built by the Mexicans (Aztecs), it just happens that the Mexicans (Aztecs) stumbled upon its ruins, and decided to live there.
As of today, there are no certain data nor information of which ancient civilization built Teotihuacán along with all its pyramids, so I’d say it’s a better example to contrast with the forerunners than, for example, the Giza pyramids! (Although the Egyptian ones are way older)
That’s awesome! I didn’t know that! I’ll have to head down a rabbit hole about that now haha
Nicely done, you chose the perfect theme for this one. I always liked how the original trilogy hints at the motive of the Forerunners without them ever making an appearance. Then Halo 3 really brought it home with the Ark.
Bravo man, another banger!
DEFINITELY do one on Bioshock for sure!
Have you played that system shock remake that was developed by a small team of fans of the original? I'm loving it so far since they maintained a lot of the aesthetics in a modern engine.
God damn dude thank you for your insight
I would personally be interested in seeing you discuss the Half-Life games.
Awesome video! I’d love more Halo stuff from you, but Gears of War would be another great franchise to tackle. Very similar to Halo in a lot of ways despite the games themselves being quite different.
The story of how a legend is born...
Been watching your videos. Underrated creator right here
Thanks man, I appreciate that. More video essays coming soon!
@@themeaninginbetween heck ya man! I’m excited! I’ve been working on my own for halo 3 before I stumbled upon your channel and it’s making me excited to make mine lol. Can’t wait to see whatchya make!
That’s great dude! Good luck with yours! I’ll have to check it out when it’s up.
Amazing ❤
Yooo he uploaded another Halo video! 😤😤😤
12:57 it's a lot stranger than Bungie implying that humanity were forerunners. During the development of Halo 2 it was definitive (the leaked storyboards showcase it), but Bungie was split on if they were humanity or a different species during Halo 3. The main story implies they're human, but the terminals imply they're different. I think the official explanation is that humanity and forerunners branched off from the same species, but that was only solidified after 343 took over, so it's still a mystery what Bungie would've gone with.
"You ARE forerunner"
"To have a record of all our lost history" -343 reading about humans
"Child of my enemy" - gravemind to chief
Frank O'Connor wrote the terminals and was one of the few who didn't like humanity being forerunner. And when he moved to 343i he retconned what was previously established.
It was also only the Librarian and Didact third of the terminals that retconned this as the other two thirds (Forerunner Communications and the Journey of Mendicant Bias) very much leaner into Bungie’s original vision.
Terminals should be taken with a grain of salt. As someone else just said it was written by a dude who would eventually make the worst retcon ever. Bungie just let him do it so he’d stop complaining is what I always imagine. In-game dialogue already confirms they’re humans, along with Halo 2
@@idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 That's not the case. Statements made by David Candland, Paul Russel, and Jaime Griesemer confirm it was two "teams" with differing ideas on who the forerunners were. The terminals were credited to a team of 8 authors.
@@MystGang it's a long video, but you might want to watch "We Were Forerunners" by C3 Sabertooth
this guy gets it
he heard me he heard me!!!
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what is isle of B and I found your channel trough a video taking about every season of rvb he is called Gazpacho1
You should think of the half life series!
Dead space
You don’t need to review the 343 games but are you gonna review Reach, ODST, and Halo Wars despite it not being a Bungie game?
Definitely Reach and ODST! Never been much of an RPG fan so honestly I’m not super familiar with halo wars other than watching the cutscenes online.
@@themeaninginbetween Ah i see that makes sense. I know many in the Halo community like the game for the artstyle, cutscenes, story, soundtrack, and other things. The soundtrack is easily the best non Marty ODonnel soundtrack in the IP.
Feat. me 😎
am i THE ONLY one who doesn’t mind the Cortana and Gravemind interruptions??
No I enjoyed them... thought it was a great way to show chief breaking down and being human without having him talk
@@Phillibetrus FINALLY!
Can't believe he said that Halo 4 had a good story 🤦♀️ only mystery is how he is so young yet bald already
NieR Automata
Disagree, every halo after ce loses that mystery, halo 3 is more mystique and epic. But since halo 2 it doesnt feel mysterious anymore. Its because halo 2 and 3 look more cartoonish and colorful, meanwhile ce looks more serious and dark. Sometimes halo fans gotta leave nostalgia aside.
How did Halo 2 or 3 not have mystery?