Hey, Dub. Are you in Northern Midwest? You mentioned being colder than -6!! I’m Kentucky around 25F. Now I’m off to research what an Orange Rockstar is. ✌🏼
Put fat wood in a vacuum bag. Just a few ounces. For emergencies. Strike a fero rod and you have a fire. Emergency fire systems are beyond critical. Road flares also, but maybe less reliable. fatwood is a gift from God.
Don't work like that, 50 centimeters of dense snow, now you're digging and cold. Camping in an open field in winter is idiotic, the windchill factor is horrible.
I married an outdoorsman when we were 20. We went camping in the cold snowy mountains right after we married. I remember being so cold I thought I would die! When he told me to get naked and cuddle with him in the sleeping bag of our tent, I thought he was just wanting some hanky panky! 😂 He told me the body heat would warm us up, so I did as he said. Had a warm comfortable sleep💕 I remember one trip he stayed up all night feeding the fire to keep me warm. He was a keeper, 42 years later, He’s still keeps me feeling safe.
Different era, he had a job that paid well. People today don't get the same life, they are stuck making CEOs rich. A CEO just bought the presidency too. Your husband's survival skills will come in handy when joblessness grows and people become violent.
Honestly, all these people making these type of "survival" videos are idiots. None of these type of videos provide any value. You are never going to be in that situation and if you were you would have way more resources.
@@_PatrickO Hey the CEO had a good first term, and spent a lot less on his run. The alternative spent a billion and is millions in debt just on her run for presidency lol.
@@GEN_X_ Knowing when you're hypothermic or when you are experiencing heat exhaustion/heat stroke could save many people especially if they primarily work outdoors doing heavy labor. Life is an unpredictable occurrence and we may not know what unexpected situation will happen to us. Natural disasters happen, you cannot always rely on the government or FEMA to come and save you; North Carolina is a great example of that recently with the floods. Being able to know how to make a fire is one of the most useful and important skills to know, it's not just a physicality but a psychological and mentality that survival skills teach a person; how to deal with situations under extreme stress and not panic and to be prepared. Starting a fire is more than just keeping you warm, it's a symbolic representation of keeping the flame of your Will burning, it is easy to give up hope when it appears to be lost.
@@flamegator3251 Calling him a CEO is kind of funny since his company constantly failed or had legal issues. But considering this was one of the slimmest margins of victory in US presidential history and he lost house seats, I would say the other campaign did not exactly fail. It was a 3.5 month campaign vs a guy running since the 80s.
I suffered from hypothermia once after falling through some ice, while camping in Maine. I was hinking back to camp wet from the waist down, when a blizzard came through. Got lost, confused, & it was extremely difficult to concentrate & remember anything, which is why I got lost. I don't know how to describe it, but it was like I had to force myself to think... & I had to intensely analyze the simplest thoughts just to perform simple tasks. When I finally made it back to camp, the blizzard had put out the fire... & there was so much concentration just to process the thought of restarting the fire. It felt like I was learning how to make fire for the 1st time as if I had never done it before. As I was building a wind shelter for the fire, I suddenly remembered I had chemical warming packs. I put them in my gloves, boots, & underwear. It felt like they were burning my skin, but I ignored the sensation, because I knew it was from me being so cold. And the joint pain... oh God did that hurt beyond imagining. After the wind shelter was built I restarded the fire, which seemed like it took hours, because the task was so much more difficult while being confused. I finally got the fire lit, & was able to finally start to get warm. Luckily I had the forethought to have a large pile of firewood stored nearby before I left camp. That was the coldest experience of my life. Those chem packs saved me. I'll never winter camp again without carrying a couple dozen of those things on my person.
thank you for sharing. perhaps your experiences protect some readers from doing stupid things . my friends laugh at me because i told them they should carry some protection against the wet, but i know it better. water can soak your shoes and cl0thes so quickly if there is wet or swamp terrain
@@Edmitsu The irony is, that I wasn't afraid at all until after It was over. When I was in the moment, I was concentrating so hard on trying to stay cognitive I literally couldn't process fear... but after I got warm & dry, & the blizzard passed, that's when the terror set in. It was so weird to be struck with the fear of my experience well after I got through it.
Those hand warmers are like $2 each and you can reuse them multiple times. Have you thought about those survival blankets too? Kind of the size of a hand warmer. I've been contemplating if they're worth carrying but after hearing your story, I'm sure they are. They do weigh a bit as they contain that liquid but maybe 4 of them is a good investment and a reasonable weight.
If he left his tent, he had lost his thinking ability because of hypothermia. People have been known to take their clothes off before succumbing to hypothermia, imagining that they are too hot. Condolences to the young man’s family.
Right, Donna. I forgot that story, I heard it when watching some mountain hiking videos and the possible tragedies occurring. I don’t understand how he received the fractures, though. Maybe stumbling over some rocks or into a tree. 😢
People really get hot inside, not only imagine it. It's a final body's attempt to survive by contracting superficial blood vessels and hyperdilating internal blood vessels. It directs great amounts of remaining heat to internal organs. People cloth off to cool down due to real heating, not an imaginary one
Belgium gets a few cms of snow at most in winter, temps only rarely drop to -10°C. A typical Belgian winter is 1°C and ice-cold rain from december to march, similar to english climate.
A woman in my hometown died in upper 50 Fahrenheit (14 Celsius) weather after falling into a creek while out for a night of drinking in a farmer's field. The group had gotten too drunk, and they ended up driving off and leaving her behind, knowing she was soaking wet. The driver was charged and convicted of manslaughter. It really doesn't have to be very cold to die from hypothermia. Stay dry, and don't drink and drive. My sympathy to the young man's family in this recent tragedy.
I’ve done overnight snowmachine trips here in Alaska and camped out in temperatures below -30. Proper gear is a must. I worked in the Arctic over 30 years.
@@Chris_at_Home Did a 36 mile cross country ski marathon in -44 one year, food is as important as your gear imho. My gear sucked in that temp but luckily I am one of those people that runs hot if you apply enough food to me. Finished it with a blown out knee and never went again.
@@davidgray8089 We were well fed doing work in the Arctic. Many camps in the oil field had their own baker. Back in the early 80s Sundays were always Surf and Turf with lobster or crab along with a some good beef. One job I had we would put up and take down towers over 200 feet tall in the dead of winter at oil exploration drill sites. Oil companies like their communications.
About 30 years ago I got lost in a snowstorm while backpacking. In my panic, it was so difficult to sit down , try to gain composure and think things through. Had I frantically searched for the trail, I don’t know how bad it might have ended up. By stopping as soon as I realized I was in trouble it didn’t take long to relocate my trail.
Yah. I’ve had it more times than I can count. Winter sea kayak, spring whitewater. I’ve helped with safety in public spring canoe races. It’s as unpredictable as drugs or alcohol with how people will react. Shivering is an early stage. It’s important to safely practice getting mild hypothermia to learn to read your own reactions and limitations. You can’t use zippers or clasps. The water looks like a soft pillow, you just want a nap…
Yes. There have been documented cases where people have been disoriented from hypothermia and actually removed clothes and died. It affects your entire reasoning.
I was homeless and lived in a hot tent in the Scottish Highlands for 20 months, washed in frozen streams at times etc. You really need to know what you're doing as it doesn't take much for things to go wrong. The coldest was -14C and winds up to 60mph but I survived. The biting midges were my biggest problem!! My sleeping bag was a Dutch army M90, awesome bag but huge and heavy but so warm!
Idaho has a similar climate. I was homeless on an island in the middle of a river with no tent and would get up every day, get dressed in 7F weather, and go work in an office (for a bank! lol). Spring came around and some explorer found me and I ended up with a $300 ticket from the cops. One of the things I vividly remember was waking up in the morning feeling what I thought of as 'the chill of death'. It's definitely a vibe. Hard men, hard times.
Always always always carry extra dry clothes and wool socks and blanket when hiking in the cold. Wool retains its heat value when wet ….. cotton kills!
One of the reasons navy P coats are wool or used to be at least. It's been several decades. Years ago I hitch hiked in blizzards to places like Montana. I survived, but in Cincinnati of all places I nearly froze to death standing out on I-75 on a pile of ice and snow the plows had piled up on the side of the freeway. It was late at night, no busy exit to get to and I was about 5 feet above eye level for even big trucks so I was pretty much stuck in one place. Eventually I started shutting down till I just sat on my duffle and waited to die. I fell asleep and somehow someone in a small pickup spotted me and stopped in traffic and carried my freezing body to his truck and saved my life. I was completely unaware of it happening till I woke up near Middletown at a Denny's restaurant. All I can tell you is that thawing out suddenly minutes away from death is EXTREMELY painful and I was actually dressed for the weather, but not dressed for being stuck up on 20+ feet of ice and snow at night on a busy freeway at 3am.. I definitely don't do anymore hitch hiking at 65 years old ESPECIALLY in the winter.
I also bring 4 plastic bags. Even if my shoes are completely wet - I change my socks put my feet into several layers of plastic bags and they remain dry. Several years ago I fall during canoy trip and soaked my boots. It was september so we already got bellow freezing nights. My boots were soaked, but with this method I was perfectly dry for the remainder of several days trip.😊 I didn't have spare boots, my bag was already crazy heavy. There are probably better ways, but spare socks and 4 plastic bags is cheap and weight almost nothing. Why at least four (some could have holes or make one, so better to take like 6 or even 8 aka 2-4 for each foot as they weight is almost nothing). My mother gave me this idea as she was hiker and climber mountains back in her day. Love you mom❤
I remember when 4 army rangers died of hypothermia in February in north Florida and the entire team had hypothermia. It can get in 20s and 30s here at night in winter And they were also in water. If I remember part of the reason for their deaths was they are not from here and refused to believe it was this cold in Florida.
Yeah I loved in Central Florida south of Ocala for a couple of years for work, and I remember it getting cold enough to ice over the marsh on the conservation property I was working at. The alligators weren't iced in but they had little open areas 3-4ft in diameter.
I remember the day when poor Skinky almost froze to death! He had gotten out of his lockbox - little square box thing inside his enclosure and it was freezing outside in FL. And Kenan found him lying there and he ran with him into the house. And he thought Slinky was dead as he wasn't moving but his son saw him breathing. So they had to warm him up. That was just before Christmas. The cold can kill the exotic animals many FL people have. Slinky is a water monitor and very famous here on YT. But that experience tells you how cold it can get in FL. Especially if you are not dressed for it or used to it. Its way harder to go from 80 F to 20 F than it is to go from 80 F to a few weeks at 60 F than some weeks at 40 F and then it hits 20 F.
I went hunting in Osceola I moved to Jacksonville from western NY 2 years ago and man you ain't kidding this cold is no joke down here different kind of cold then up north with snow.
It was -30 this week here in Alberta,Canada. Brutally cold wind chills. Even opening the door to get wood in a T-shirt was nasty. God rest his young soul.❤
@@louise7552-30,-40,-50 really isn't that bad if you dress right. At those temps the air is very dry, so dampness isn't an issue. You just can't have exposed skin or you'll develop frostbite in minutes. Also breathing air into lungs can sometimes be a bit painful. I actually miss the Alberta winters, the air is still and sound travels differently at those temps, it makes for an eerie silence as there's also no animal noises.
@rinahsegal9736 people wear t-shirt at home. Like I wear tank top here in Phx, Az USA our winter here at night is 40 F durning the day 75-80 F no coat needed just a sweater going outside. He's making example if you open the door with t-shirt on
How sad... I am thinking he did not realize that he did not have enough experience to know what he did not know. Deepest condolences to his loved ones.
With all the new and upcoming RUclipsrs, especially in the outdoor genre, it was sooner or later going to happen. It's heartbreaking. He was so young. I don't know his experience, but this goes to show you, that even the most motivated and seasoned backpackers can become vulnerable to the elements. Know your limitations and always have an exit plan.
Such a sad story, I thought you were very sympathetic in your comments regarding the poor man. I'm in Scotland and the dampness and especially the wind-chill on our hills can bring on hypothermia in what most folk would consider to be benign conditions. You have to be careful out there. GRHS.
@markwilkie3677 Absolutely correct Mark. My mate lost his brother-in-law to exposure in The Kilpatrick Hills , in May. Despite being very experienced and having all the right equipment he could not save him. Mountain rescue and the police said he couldn't have done anything more in the situation he found himself in. Wind chill and wet are the real killers in the Scottish outdoors and because it is not blowing a blizzard folk put it out of their mind, until something happens ! Happy Trails.
@@bdmenne Correct, after walking in cold rain for a few hours I got to a hut and my stiff ,shivering hands were almost unable to light a match for my stove. Even with dry clothes and hot food it still took more than an hour to regain anything close to normal.
I fell alone in the woods 14 below was real feel. Shattered my whole body. I was lightly dressed and a 60 second walk to my truck took hours. Keep moving no matter what. When the rescures found me my body temp was 92 degrees. Don't overthink your situation stay positive. I laid under my exhaust pipe of my running truck too also help me survive.
@@the-fiddling-foxhe took an hour to move 60 seconds distance and his body was shattered so I think the truck was running (pee break or whatever) but he couldn’t get up into the truck.
Good points. Never panic - panic kills. Also good points about how deceptive 0 to -10 temps can be. Back when I was in the army, we used to have guys from Ontario come out to the west coast and go on winter ex with us thinking it would be a cake walk because it would only be -2 or -3c, not realizing how the damp west coast air would cut you like a knife. They suffered like hell.
yes, high moisture content in the air plus cold temperatures is a demoralizer. At young age my father said to never panic if your lost in the bush always stay put someone will find you.
Pretty much the same here in the Scottish Highlands, varied temps range and high humidity along with high winds that come without warning. I know us Brits get a lot of stick when we say about our winter camping and stuff like oh it's only -5 don't be a wimp, we get -40 blah blah, but it's a much different climate.
Same for National Guard troops from southern states that came to training in Alaska in mid-winter -- some poor things got frost bite or pneumonia within a week!!
Hey, i live in Northern! My hubby loves to solo hike, so if you have any tips or one big piece of info to share about keeping safe in our area I would be very grateful. ❤
@@audity13 Carry more water than you think you will require . Have the ability to purify water. Carry a quality compass and maps . Know how to use them . Do not rely on a cell phone for navigation . Signaling devices / quality flashlight. Quality medical kit.
Sad .. Here in Switzerland, at 74, I Nordic Walk throughout the year to stay in reasonable shape. Wednesday is a group walk in a neighbouring village and from there, out into farmlamds, hills and forest. I use Public Transport (Bus-Train-Bus each way). Approximately an hour each way including the waits at the exposed bus stops and train station (in-transport time 25 min) .. over-cover shelter only. I always have spare dry clothing in my day pack .. as required, depending on the weather. Last Winter, I did some experimentation regarding Hypothermia during my return trips. I deliberately did not change out of my damp upper clothing or add additional insulating layers. I 'run hot' and walk 'be bold, start cold'. It took about 10 minutes for my body to 'cool down' enough for me to start feeling chilled. Another 10 minutes and I could sense myself 'slowing down', physically and mentally. Ok, I was not isolated .. was in an Urban Area with assistance at hand if needed, but .. 20-30 minutes under the right / wrong conditions and one could be in serious trouble. Thanks for sharing and I hope many take heed of the dangers of exposure during any sort of weather. Take care ..
You crazy Swiss! :) If you’re 74 you really shouldn’t experiment with hypothermia. My neighbor 54(not in shape though) shuffled snow at got cold, he took a coffee and all was well. He went to work, he came home and all was well, then he had a heart attack sitting in his bed. The doctor told me that it’s not rare for men 50+ to have a heart attack several hours later after getting cold. I think that your condition matters greatly and to be honest, if you had a weak heart it would have made itself known after that experiment😂 Have a great Winter, Herr Swiss
@@Br1chtOn that note, look into how dangerous shoveling snow actually is. I know of quite a few people that had heart attacks as a direct result of shoveling. Random little tidbit and nothing to do with the gentleman or his story, but I bought my husband and I an electric snow blower after researching!!
I survived 7 years sleeping rough, through some of the worst winter storms. I had lots of experience and all the right gear..... I never got to the point where I would shiver or even feel cold.. I awoke under my tarp one night to see snow falling and inches of it on the ground. I ate half a packet of biscuits as digestion warms you up , and went back to sleep. I was insulated underneath, was wearing the right clothes, with my boots at the bottom of my Arctic Sleeping Bag. I had a Bivvy bag , woolly hat and supplies, including gas stove.... This kid is a victim of lack of knowledge and experiance. He went too far , too fast.... Driven by some strange desire, he went too far.... How many RUclipsrs have died to get their faces out there...... Condolences to all.....
Yep, you nailed it. That's sad and tragic what happened to this kid. My condoleance to his family. But this whole "I want to be famous" thing is so dangerous. Being a "Youtouber" doesn't turn you into an immortal and doesn't infuse you with sudden knowledge kids. What out out there.
Yup. He might not be aware that many RUclipsrs who go out into “the bush” are really only a few miles from their vehicle in most cases. They often do it showcase a certain skill or technique, but not literally risking their life. People edit videos to make them seem more intense for views.
Way back in grade school I had a teacher whos friend died of hypothermia. He used one of those emergency blankets overnight and woke up completely soaked in sweat. It didnt take long for the cold to do its thing afterwards.
I used one of those emergency bags years ago on Dartmoor. I went on a winter camp and had a summer season sleeping bag. The emergency bag condensated and got me and my sleeping bag quite wet. I got out of my 1 man tent and started a fire at 4:30 am, to warm up again. A lesson learned there..
@@jayawilder3835 Ha - yeh they are useless, in my experience.. Might work in an emergency short term, if you are guaranteed to get a ride out of there, and be able to dry off. The condensation is an issue..
They are not supposed to go over any insulation layers, but under them so they don't trap moisture in your insulation layers. Supposed to wear a very quick drying baselayer, then IR reflective VBL, then sleeping bag or quilt. When used like that, they are fine and add a little extra warmth to a sleep system at low weight, while keeping moisture out of your insulation. However, they are uncomfortable to use unless the temps are approaching near 0* F with dry air.
I’ve been writing on social media to encourage proper wilderness preparation for several years. I do not know enough about this situation to comment specifically but will offer three imperatives that apply no matter what. And one observation. 1] Check weather Check weather Check weather Check weather. If you have a bad feeling pull the plug. Storms can be battlefield scary and deadly. 2]Especially in four season trekking carry an extremely comprehensive kit. Your ability to get dry, get and stay warm and stay hydrated are not niceties. They are fundamental life support and should never be sacrificed for sake of media. Most “extreme survival challenges” posted here have extensive ancillary support. 3] Make sure two separate parties know where you are headed, have maps of your intended routes and bivouacs and most importantly know a specific check-in time and understand that if you miss that check-in their job is to raise every SAR asset known to man. Personally I find that women over the age of 50 are the safest bet for what I call my “at-home control” 3a] This one may sound critical and I don’t mean it to but I did watch several of Storm’s videos (subbed to his channel to show some brotherly love) In watching his adventures there are strong suits (like his incredible eye for POV shots and insert shots of absolute natural splendor) But it’s evident to us older schools that his axe craft, fire craft and shelter craft tend to indicate someone who is newer to the hobby. At 52 I no longer trek solo because the impact of otherwise minor injuries can be deadly. But if you do choose solo hiking/backpacking please be advised that in America the extreme percentage of accidental fatalities happen to solo-ers. Or to groups where separation occurred . Oddly the majority of hypothermia deaths in North America happen in spring and fall. That’s a whole different story and will make this comment far too long. Lastly I sincerely pray that his parents be imbued with the peace that passes understanding. That losing such a bright light is brutal but he did what he loved and was doing what he loved best. I hope my sharing these fundamentals helps someone else perhaps approach their ambitions with that extra dose of caution. It can very often make THE difference. 🫶🏼🕯️
I hope everyone takes note of this. I remember when Julian Sands went missing in the mountains. He had years of experience. But perhaps didn’t heed the weather reports.
All good points you mentioned but the thing is....these youtubers do this for views so they want it as dramatic as possible. So they are willing to take that risk even if it does cost them their lives. To go out there alone even though they know a bad storm is projected just for content.
There was a long distance hiker that died of hypothermia in South Florida around 1998-1999. He was from the northeast and didn't think it got cold in Florida. He had minimal clothing when a freak cold front came through and dropped south Florida into the 30-40's F. It doesn't have to be that cold. I've been shivering from getting caught in a downpour and the temperature before it started raining was 90 degrees F. That rain is cold, drops the temperature, soaks you to the bone, wind blows, get even colder.
Wool is the way...wear it against your skin..if it gets wet...you still stay warm. I have wool pants, sweaters, socks, everything..I'm on Vancouver island in the boonies. Very sad for family, friends..deepest sympathies and condolences. WOOL IS THE WAY 🙏
No, a wicking layer needs to be against your skin...idiot, you don't leave the moisture on your skin....wool will help, but it can't do the whole job alone. Cheap polyester wicking materials are common now...in fact, half my t-shirts are of that sort. Great for winter or summer.
@@TheEudaemonicPlague ah yes. We all know of how our ancestors used polyester wicking layers under wool to survive winter conditions for thousands of years. Wool is worthless without hit am i right? 🙄
This makes it clearer than ever how important your actions were when you fell in the water. I was aware of how far you were from your dry clothes and fire, but it shows how you really saved your own life! So sad for the young man's family. Thank you for shining a light on him.
@@nancysarver8120 The thin ice you're on is more dangerous, the false safety under the gooberments boot. I survive because iam built for life's purpose.
At 74 I have had to make some concessions to age. As a 4 season bakpacker sometimes I would head out with others. On one winter trek with two other guys we ended up getting turned around. Although they both had some experience they did start to panic. They finally asked if I knew where we were. I admitted that I wasn't exactly sure but I knew where home was. I told them it was on their back along with their bed, kitchen and food. The next morning we found the trail and finished the hike. Snow can be very disorienting once it covers the trail and the markers.
Part of the problem is that kids are watching RUclips survival channels and actually believe that these "survivalists" are really far away from help and using minimal gear. Don't kid yourselves. These guys are close to help and have an escape plan in place. It's not admirable to put yourself in that kind of situation, it's stupidity.
@@ClaudeBohls the positive about a critical review is to learn from others mistakes and save other lives so this is not repeated, ŵhen we have codes in the hospital we do this.
Seeing all these epic stories in the comment section...I got one of my own. A few years back I lived in a forest on a lake for about 8 months. 40 clicks outside of my town in Vancouver BC. I found an abandoned cabin on a lake in the woods that belonged to an indian tribe and settled in. After sometime the lake ranger discovered me living there and told me I'm totally cool to stay because it has been abandoned for some time. So that was my new home for the upcoming season. Before my life even really started on that lake, in my new sweet cabin, I had a near death experience. I invited one of my friends over from the city to hang with me on the lake and check out the cabin. The month was April. April in Van is not a warm month, and this lake was a large glacier lake that doesnt even get above 14C in midsummer burning hot weather... In april it is ice cold. I invited my friend to hang and we had a fire and like 6 beer each. It was time for me to canoe him back over to the beach, where the main park was, with all the vehicles, which was a 12 min row. We get there safely, I walk him to the parking lot , he jumps in his vehicle (it was like 320 am, I know he shouldn't have been driving but he was fine) he leaves, and I walk back to my canoe parked on the sand. I dressed real warm, sweater, my winter jacket, thick pants and steel toe boots. The only item that was coming along for this canoe ride was my ultimate tool- which was a small spayed gardeners shovel. It acted as a shovel, a paddle, and a lethal weapon, all at the same time. I wasnt scared of no man or creature in the pitch black of that night. A black bear would get his head split real nice if it was dumb enough to get near me. In a good mood, a little buzzed, I hopped back in the canoe for the 12 min row to my cabin, with the small glow of my fire way out along the beach, as my backtrack guide beacon. The night was so black I couldnt see 2 meters infront me. The black sky merged with the black water. No moon, no nothing. Your eyes couldn't even adjust to this darkness, it was pitch black. I was going completely off my sensation of the water, the canoe and my body, which felt very much alive. The canoe was an 18 foot white Clipper, so I could see the canoe, thats about it. I take a running start, splash thru the water in my boots, jump on the back seat, and make several power strokes switching from left to right, left to right. Im now gliding thru the pitch black at speed. I can't see the water but Im fully relying on it with the weight my body behind each stroke. On one of the strokes unbeknown to me i slightly turned the shovel, and instead of the paddle , the shovel entered the water like a knife that sliced thru too fast- and with my full body weight behind that stroke I took a forward dive off the canoe, over my right shoulder. My shoulder and face nearly smack the water. I freak out and counterbalance. Smack the water on the other side, pick up water in the canoe, and made the decision to take my foot out of the boat. I thought, "Im still close to the beach, I could probably stand here, I'll walk the canoe back and reset" I get out of the canoe and realize I can't touch bottom, completely dunking into the 7C degree water. I'm way out in the lake, how i thought i was near the beach...was beyond me, big mistake. For some reason in that first moment, I didn't feel how cold the water was. Adrenaline, I guess. I found myself hanging on to the canoe, beside it in the water with water having filled up like 20% of the boat. I remember laughing at that moment out loud, thinking "holy fuck, you are an idiot. How did this happen?!" I calmed myself down, let go of my boots ,my jacket and pants, because they weighed me down and constricted my movement. I figured I could jump onto the canoe somehow and recover this whole thing. I jerked onto the canoe, it moved from under me and went to 80% with water. I touched it again, and it went to 100%...The end... it now sat below the surface with me, without sinking. Fiber glass floats. The sight of it was so fucked up. A moment earlier, I was in it with my flashlight rolling on it's floor making noise, and now it was this white blob beneath me... in the pitch black of night, in the middle of this massive lake. It was truly incredible. I remember thinking, "i moved to this lake to find peace, to get away from people" but in that moment, I needed those people, I wished those jet skiirs were there or all the annoying boaters that swarm the lake in the summertime. I would just yell, and instantly one of them would be at my aid in 1 min . But nobody was there, I was alone, the lake swallowed me - you wanted to be alone right? Here you have it. Sitting there watching my canoe beside me, I realized i was in a current, the canoe was floating away from me. This lake had a current as it turns into a river a mile down from where I was. The situation was real and I had to make a decision, I either let go of a 2000 dollar canoe and swim to shore or swim to shore with the canoe. I was already like 4 minutes in that water, trying to board the canoe, tugging on it with no avail, and thats when the cold set in. I couldn't take another 5min in that water. My pulse went up, and real fear kicked in, the joke was over. I took the canoe with one hand and swam with the other toward the beach. In like 8 min of panic rows I hit sand. I climbed out onto the beach like Count of Monte Cristo, yelling, laughing and gurgling into the night like a monster, in celebration. Dragged the canoe out. Flipped the water out of it, and realized I lost my ultimate tool...the shovel. The canoe was officially useless. I couldn't go back to the cabin that night. I stripped to my boxers( i had underpants on) and in that windy 7-8 degree night, I walked a mile and a half to the rangers house. Doing the wim-hoff method all the way down the gravel road. My socks were dangling off my feet, and the gravel pierced them like needles. I couldn't even feel my feet after 10 minutes, they felt like nubs with a strange sensation at the end. I knocked on his door at 340 AM , trembling, barely stringing words together, I told him, I dunked the canoe. He laughed at me, welcomed me in, sat me beside his fireplace that was already going, and made me hot chocolate with whiskey. He told me , I should have let go of the canoe, we would have recovered in the morning anyway...It would have gotten stuck in the river.. he had a boat that he took up it all the time. Thats the story. Thanks for the read. Had to share with Outdoorsmen. Only you understand :)
Tip, do not go out Alone, if anyone ignores you, then dress for survival, they say wear your survival shelter. At least take a tarp, fire materials, etc.
Totally. The worst conditions to be in are around 30-40 degrees, with rain/sleet/wet snow. As you go further below that, you don't get rain and you get lighter and drier snow.
You nailed it with the panic statement. I have seen it on a number of Alone episodes. Dr Tan addresses it on his channel. I have been there myself after a blizzard mountain climbing in 1987 . Fortunately the experienced climbers with me recognized it and through a lot of prayer and wisdom we made it out. A woman alomost died on one our groups trips of hypothermia. Inexperience is a huge killer in the wilderness.
*Been there myself one time when I was just getting into snow camping and not really knowing what I was doing back then. Ill-equipped for the conditions (roughly between zero and -5 Fahrenheit) I started shutting down mentally.* *I had managed to pitch the tent, but it was nearing sunset and temp was plummeting precipitously. Was cold enough the nylon of which my jacket was made stopped being a supple fabric and, instead, became more akin to a rigid piece of thin plastic. Metal zipper pulls snapped off in the cold.* *The situation was bad, but I was so cold I just sat there in the snow barely able to process. I had to manually use my right hand to pry my left thumb open to release my grip on a piece of gear because it would no longer respond to my command. Some part of me **_knew_** I was in imminent danger, but at the same time my slowly-freezing brain was incapable of registering fear, concern, or panic. It was oddly surreal to sit there going hypothermic while simultaneously feeling completely detached from the situation.* *I finally mustered enough will to tell myself I had to get out of there. However, cold as I was, the simplest tasks were now cognitively overwhelming. I couldn't process any longer. Do I pack this piece of gear first, or that piece of gear? Mental paralysis was setting in. So, attempting to focus my concentration, I tried something simple: add 2 + 2.* *I couldn't come up with the answer.* *I **_knew_** that I knew the answer, that at some point in my past I **_knew_** what 2 + 2 **_should_** be. But in that moment, I couldn't even perform simple addition in my head.* *I struggled for a few moments until finally yelling out, **_"FOUR! IT'S FOUR! TWO PLUS TWO IS FOUR!"_* *That was enough to spur me into action. I realized at that moment I had to go **_NOW!_* *So, abandoning all my gear save what I was wearing, I put on my snowshoes and my Husky and I hiked in the dark the two miles back to the trailhead and my waiting pickup. Thank God it started! Headed down the mountain and got a hotel for the night. The overnight low in the town was zero (at elevation 3,000 feet). I had attempted to set up camp at 6,500 feet; so you can imagine it was even colder up there.* *Returned the next morning to collect all my gear without incident (based on tracks, nobody else had been up there; they were smart enough to get out of the cold, unlike yours truly). The Happy Ending is it taught me some important lessons and the need for a serious overhaul of my gear and my preparation.* *I returned to the same spot the following year, better equipped and better informed, and spent a very comfortable night camped in the snow with no problems. But I will never forget being unable to command my thumb to function, not being able to add 2 + 2, and that hypothermia is no joke.*
Cold is one thing,wet is one thing,but cold and wet together is another matter. When your freezing cold,wet and hypothermic I can only imagine how difficult it is to change clothing and get into a sleeping bag,let alone light a fire in that circumstance.
Just get naked in the sleeping bag. Curl up like a baby. Head inside so ur breath helps give off heat. Then u wanna just keep warming your body up in the baby position and pray. Going for a fire doesnt seem logical in most circumstances
Or in the worst case, turn your down bag into lumpy crap with zero isolation. Perhaps not the first night but the second one or the third. Better have a sleeping bag with neck collar to keep body heat inside.
So sad about this young man. Just goes to show that an experienced outdoorsman can quickly get in trouble if not totally prepared. I do remember your experience when you were hypothermic walking back to your camp and being confused walking in circles. Very scary!
Oh shit, didn't know you had a RUclips, you just popped in my feed. I watched you in Alone and was rooting for you. You were really honest and I respect your mental fortitude immensely. Tough as nails man.
A tent can fly away in the wind. Trees may fall. What if there is fog or a light is not working? It can be completely dark at night. Hands go numb easily. Backup lights and plans can help.
a tent is not the only way to take shelter. If there is a lot of snow, you build a quinzee and leave a small air hole, strip wet clothes off and ball up. If there is no snow, build a shelter from leaves, grasses, pine boughs, etc, and do the same. Never stay exposed to the wind with wet clothes.
I got hypothermia on our yacht just cos I got cold n wet with the waves crashing over the boat while I was steering. My husband was up trying to lower the sails in a sudden squal. It happened so fast. You can be totally incapable of even undressing out of wet clothes. Luckily we had dry clothes and extra blankets on board and hubby wrapped me up into blankets and dry clothes! He said later he was really scared. We had to shelter in a bay with no one else around. It was summer!! At 4am as soon as it got light he set sail to get me home asap. The storms can run their course quickly but they can arrive so quickly! RIP to Storm! ❤
@5474online thank you. It's not until you experience it that you understand how weak and disoriented you get. I couldn't undress or do buttons. I was shaking uncontrollably and couldn't speak or walk by myself to get into warm blankets. Apparently people hallucinate and also feel "hot" when they're freezing up so that's why many are found without clothing after they have passed away!
I once suffered from cold water immersion syndrome after being thrown from a hot tub into a pool during winter. (It was snowing at the time) I can't explain the helplessness and panic I felt when my muscles seize up. I couldn't swim or even make my lungs expand to take a breath. I'm lucky I didn't inhale much water from the shock of the cold, but the amount of effort it took to swim just 15 ft was monumental. It was an even greater difficulty to get out of the pool because I felt so weak. I genuinely thought I was going to die. At the time, my so-called "friend" just laughed at me and made no effort to help... But years later, I learned I was in real danger of not just drowning, but shock, heart failure, and respiratory failure. (I have asthma)
Yep. I was outside, nighttime, winter, in my pj's, and I had an outside water hose sprayed on my back. My ribscage began convulsing. I could not control it. I thought I was going to die.. age 72.
I did my military service in the Swedish army ranger battalion, and we where located very close to that area. The weather in early winter can be very unforgiving with rain and wet snow during the day and very cold freezing temperatures during the night. We learned to treat the sleeping bag as holy, as well as a dry setup of thermals and socks, keeping these in plastic bags to ensure they kept dry. We would never march in these to prevent them from getting wet due to rain/snow/sweat, only putting them on when we were in the tent or very stationary. When marching again, we would change and put on the wet, sometimes frozen clothes that we did not treat as holy. This could be really painful, but you would always get warmer after some marching.
Wow, thx, that sounds counter intuitive tbh I would never think of putting dry back in and put on wet for a march, makes me want to go for such training. Thx again
@@redpillnibbler4423 my point is self imposed...YT channel making a winter survival video, just saying...i wont do something i dont know much about just for clicks.
yep...most the people in my office are 'experts' because they watch a few youTube videos and go outside on the weekends. the worst is having to listen to all their nonsense!
I live in Alaska. I help with search and rescue. Hypothermia makes people do odd things. Had a friend find a man who was frozen sitting next to his snowmobile taking his parka off. Scary sight but yea hypothermia makes you act abnormal sometimes
Hypothermia doesn't really affect me for some reason. I had it two times and each time never felt like I was out of touch. First time I got it when the temps dropped from 50 to 22 in an hour while I was walking. I felt so cold but knew if I did not keep walking I was done for. So I just walked and refused to stop. I only had minor frostbite on my thighs and biceps(yes, thighs and biceps. Not my face, feet, hands. I am and was just as confused as you probably are). Second time I was in a tent in my friend's yard as it was August and we wanted to sleep outside. When we woke up our temperatures were 94F. Which is funny to me because I felt wide awake and energized. My friend went inside the house but I got up, went outside the tent, and ran a mile and did pushups. My temp rose back to normal just from the exercise. I guess the cold makes me want to move. And it works, moving my feet and hands is probably what kept them from frostbite.
as much as I'd love to hike and wild camp with my dog (we go camping everywhere together). I realised I don't have the skills or instincts to hike up a mountain safely, I read a story about a guy going hiking with a friend and his dog, the weather turned very quickly, and basically his dog became lame from the cold and he had to leave him behind (the dog later died), I decided then, that if an experienced hiker can get in that horrendous situation, then what hope would I have, so I made a decision that I'd never put myself and certainly not my dog in that dangerous situation, bad decisions, lead to bad times.
When i was a 10~ year old once i was on a skiing holiday with my family in the French Alps. We were out skiing just before the evening, i got completely lost from my family(there were tons of people). I tried to search them and basically had no chance of finding them. Night came and i was a kid alone in the mountains. I figured if i didn't find shelter from the snowfall/wind during freezing temperatures i was a goner so i found the nearest pine trees, made a pit out of the snow to cover me from the wind and the pine leaves covered me from falling snow. I pretty much got 0 sleep that night but came out ok(exhausted and freezing). Went down the mountains first thing the morning and contacted authorities. My relatives were more pissed than relieved that i made them go through that but thats another story. Was on the national news in France that day.
@@suran396 no i had full skiing gear on, those shoes are impossible to lose. i do have Palmar Erythema now which most likely started because of this event
@@agagqbq ah. I found an article about a very little boy this happened to, and also survived by hunkering down by pine trees. But he was younger, Dutch, and lost a shoe. Wasn't you, I guess! You were both very fortunate to survive.
I think its important for some people to realise that you can really die out there. Exposure is real & you dont necessarily need it to be particularly cold to succumb to its affects, wetness is also a factor. Social media platforms can be the enemy, they make everything look fluffy, safe and anyone can do it with minimal knowledge or equipment. My heart goes out to his family ❤😢
Yes, managing moisture in the cold is paramount. A lot of people wear too many clothes on the hike and end of sweating too much causing them to get really cold when they stop.
I live in the Pacific Northwest. It is cold and wet all the time. Once you are wet, you are screwed unless unless you can get a fire going. The best thing that you can Do is be prepared. I always bring a lighter, a pharaoh rod. Poor kid
I'm in the pine bush in Ontario. I wouldn't even know how to begin building a shelter or fire in woods like this video. With pines, you can make a lean-to by bending and breaking off branches, and there's always dry dead wood under the tree and dead branches hanging loose.
This is a good time to offer the story of the "Endurance," on the National Geographic Channel. The crew of the "Endurance." survived in continuingly degrading conditions in Antartica in the early 1900's for over a year! Everyone lived in, and through the harshest conditions on the planet! Check out the kit, clothing and exploitation of resources to see how they made it home. The rhetorical question is: How did they do it without the modern materials we have today? Certainly not alone-----
Also... Shackleton's (Endurance's Captain) book/audiobook (South! The Story of Shackleton's Last Expedition 1914-1917) is in the public domain and can be found for free on the Project Gutenberg and Librivox websites. It is an incredible story.
One of his men fell into the water when the floe they were resting on cracked . Of course no change of clothes, no fire, no way to get dry. But somehow he survived that. Name was Ernie Holness.
I'm newer to backpacking, but have only done winter camping from 32°F to -17°F... I can thankfully say only time I had to bail was testing gear in back yard! I'm getting ready for my first real test in Alaska coming up. However, I'm planning to take it super easy.
Stay safe, make good decisions. I had to chuckle about you bailing in your backyard. A couple years back, I had some new winter gear I wanted to try out, but wasn't confident enough with the gear's first use in the mountains here in Colorado. So, off to my backyard I go! Around midnight or so it just wasn't working out, and all I could think of was how nice and toasty my house was. Didn't even pick up my gear. Saved that for later the next day. Have fun! Good luck.
@rkf2746 i did like 8 nights in the back yard 2 years ago before my first wilderness trip! The first ever backpack trip was January in U.P. michigan, not alot of room for error. Haha, went mostly well!
@@SuperdutyExplorer lol!! I've probably spent more time in the backyard than the mountains, if truth be told. I hear the UP is some pretty cool country. Have a great winter. Allow a small window for error, that keeps us honest.
So many of the commenters here seem to think gear is the solution to outdoor survival, although having the correct clothing and good equipment is helpful, having real knowledge and a solid skill set with experience and a deep seated will to live is what keeps you alive and comfortable when going gets tough...
True, but good gear can also easily save your life. Couple stories on here from people about how having a change of clothes or chemical based heating packs saved their lives. If you are new to wilderness survival you aren't going to have the knowledge, but you may be able to invest or bring some stuff with you that will give you options you wouldn't normally have. Maybe the kid couldn't afford some of the gear suggestions, but I'd wager this kid had more clothes at home, but it sounds like he didn't pack spare clothes in case he got wet. Also just because you buy the gear doesn't mean you have to use it. I've never understood these wilderness survival things where people don't have backup gear just in case something goes wrong. Even if you want the challenge that doesn't mean you can't bring equipment with you that you don't use. Those heater packs are fairly cheap and light, a small bottle of lighter fluid could be very useful, etc. If you are doing solo survival type stuff like this I'd suggest packing a small bag of stuff that you will use in an emergency, and not going so far out in the woods alone that a rescue team with decent gear can't come out and get you if they can't use a helicopter. Get to your site and then put the bag aside, obviously if you are going to call for a rescue then you shouldn't have a problem using it at that point. Even better just make more content and film what you are putting in the pack and ask for suggestions on what else you should have. And if we really dive deep enough it's also true that good enough gear can help you survive any outdoor weather. We have people living on Antarctica right now. It's just a matter of perspective and just how much gear you are bringing. Although an entire house designed and funded by a government is probably beyond the gear most outdoor weather survivalists can get. Although I'd imagine a few of the people in Antarctica do consider themselves outdoor weather survivalists, especially the around 1,000 that stay there over winter.
RiP storm. I knew the snow could be dangerous. But seeing this is eye-opening. For someone like me who is from Los Angeles and not used to snow at all. I love watching these outdoor adventure videos, especially the ones in the snow are my favorite. I would love to travel van lifestyle, but I've got a lot to learn clearly.
The struggle of not acting. I probably would have made the same mistake. (Quick edit:) The will to force yourself to hunker down despite feeling the need to act is probably why you're the only Alone contestant to ever survive being sick.
I`m Finnish. Here is same climate as Sweden. Winters are very familiar to us. It is automatic reaction to stay warm in any situations. No monkey business with cold. Some people swimming in icy water but they get warm in sauna.
When i was a kid, my friends and i were playing on the river because it had frozen over, i went near a spot that had a tree sticking through the ice and went straight through, as soon as i went in i could hardly move, and when i made it out of the water and started running home, my boots and overalls had frozen stiff.
I feel real sorry for the guy and his family and friends so sad and tragic. I got hypothermia a couple of times but not in the coldest temperature. I was traveling to and from work 80 miles each way on a motorcycle. I was on my way home one day it was wet but well above freezing. I started feeling bad headache shaking dizzy and just generally unwell. I barely got home. Almost fell off the motorcycle and staggered in . I said to my wife about it all, got a hot coffee and went to bed shivering. I had a couple of quilts on me and a sleeping bag. Took hours for me to stop shaking and get warm. Once you start getting that way you are in trouble unless you get warm and dry quickly. Had frostbite on fingers and toes luckily it was minor. Trouble is when get like that without someone around you often don't recognize the symptoms until it is almost to late.
When I was in my twenties, I got heatstroke in early spring and hypothermia in early fall. Each time, I was shocked by the outcome because the weather felt mild when I'd left the house. I had no idea how dangerous it would become after just a few hours of exposure, especially because I'm the type that ignores physical discomfort, so I didn't register the early signs that I was in trouble. Luckily, I was close to home each time, but it scared the hell out of me.
I lost my job for this reason. I was roofing and got heatstroke. But was worth losing the job to preserve my own health. Doesn't matter how tough you are, heatstroke can kill easily and so can the cold. Life is fragile
@WilliamCelandine Come on, you weakling! Don't you know you're supposed to be willing to die on that rooftop for a paycheck? You're not here to make a decent living so you can enjoy your life and raise your kids. You're here to bleed for your masters and fatten up their bank accounts. What a world! I hope you found a better job and more respect.
I’m a nurse, and a camping, hunting, fishing Mainer my whole life, 54 years. Last summer I went mushrooming in the forest behind the University of Maine. I planned to walk in 30 minutes, then turn around and come back out. No water, nothing at all to drink. I was out there 5 hours and walked 7 miles. I’m lucky I didn’t die from heat exhaustion. It was humbling.
The worst thing is panic and then not think rational. I remember 2 times it happened to me. One was getting lost and panic and rush didn't help. And anothee was hypothermia. I was night hiking and the clothes had moisture. I stoped on a concrete foundation in the middle of the mountain and started to fall asleep. As soon as i can i woke up from that, set up my tent, got inside and turn on the stove. That was like i instantly woke up and i take off my wet clothe and change. P.s: sometimes i still get lost, now i carry a whistle, a handy radio and a compass.
I watch his videos whenever they come across my feed. This is so awful and I can’t even imagine how his friends and family are feeling right now. It’s so important to be prepared for these situations.
Man i heard about this too. It happened in my home country. Its really tragic. I heard the dad wants to travel there and try to find hes camera etc during spring. And if the dad sees this comment please reach out. I would like to help you. May hes soul rest in peace
Dub ... just saw this video on my feeds and realized I watched you on Alone ... you did a great job on there and I enjoyed this seasons cast. In watching this video, I feel sorry for the young guy and his family. Prayers going out to the family.
In the throes of death, the brain can make the body do some mighty strange things. I've seen men within seconds of their final breath, suddenly get up and bolt to nowhere in particular, then just as suddenly, make that final drop. It was as if they'd seen 'The Reaper' suddenly appear over them, and they tried to flee in a panic.
New subscriber here my buddy , that was a sad story thanks for sharing. Do not panic is definitely the key. Enjoyed you on Alone and was sure I was subscribed to you already definitely am again. Hope you have an awesome week
thanks for sharing this tragic story and spread awareness. be prepared for the worst if you gonna go into nature everyone no matter what. Whoever or however strong you are you will never win over nature
Wait I heard about this, I live in the northern sweden just a few km away from where it happened. We hadnt had any real snowfall until a large storm came around and ended up with a near meter of snow in most areas. Things got pretty cold and fast so our bodies hadnt had time to adjust and adapt to the cold so even with my usual winter gear it still felt really cold. Heard the guy had just like a hoodie on and such. Rip
I live in Alberta I’ve been out hunting in -30 Celsius all day important thing if you get cold start a fire and dry everything if you’re wet and if it’s starting to get dark don’t go anywhere’s just gather up enough wood to last you throughout the night And also never panic as soon as you start to panic it’s a death sentence
My thoughts, and sympathies for the parents and friends, sad to lose such a person. Thank you for being so sympathetic to the family. Wool, people, pure sheep wool, it keeps you warm wet or dry, wool socks are NOT an option, everyone should have a pair. Even if you don't go camping, have several pairs of pure wool socks just to wear around the house (I don't camp anymore), but my kids all have wool undergarments, and when it's minus -30'C and you're sitting on top of a tractor without any cover and it's windy, trust me, you want wool long johns, socks, toque, a heavy coat, hood up AND a balaclava...and you are still cold, (my dad would still smoke a cigarette, with ice forming around his face, on his stubble, and his eyelashes & eyebrows and he'd have two thermoses of hot coffee with him). The number of times I had to put a bale in the round feeder (we free fed) for my horses and I would be shaking coming in (there were times at -40'C when the tractor didn't want to start and when I started it, I would load two bales, even though I was only supposed to do one, just so I didn't have to worry for the next few days, lol). I went out once after putting one in the feeder and one loose (twine removed of course) only to find my Shadow had kicked open the bale and was standing in it sleeping, his back and butt, and the bale covered in ice & snow, and my dad laughed, and said, "Now that's a happy horse, belly's warm and that crust will keep him toasty with all the food he can dream of." The cold is not a game. Please be careful. I live in Manitoba, Canada, we have winter kit in all of our vehicles, and we get our vehicles checked out and ready for winter every fall. Weather does not care about you, and Lady Winter gives no quarter.
Hiker from Sweden here. So what people do not realize is the problem was not the temperature in itself. Following this guy we know he has seen worse temps in some of his adventures. The problem was, and the reason he sent out an emergency call, the winds. The windeffect can make -4 seem like -25, and in those temperatures, with intense snowing, and really no way to make a proper fire, it is very difficult to survive if you have not seen those conditions before. Let that man rest in peace and be remebered forever in our adventure hearts
I love the winter, live for it! And i always travel heavy,. Tons of extra poop!! And I suffer chronic pain,. So I get a lil angry,. But i use that anger to motivate me to move and make my core heat rise,. Youd be surprised to see how warm you get swinging an axe or some mad squats,. I have good gear,, 2 woolly blankets, a woolly hat, and 3 sets of mittens, and thats just the minimum, always go in with 2 back up plans,. And a shit ton of shit to burn,. Rubbing alcohol on a rag on a branch isnt much but it gets shit started and may god watch over you all,. My deepest condolences to his familia, and may god grant mercy for his familia misery 🙏🏽
Excellent advice on gear and clothing! I lived most of my life in California near LA but had the opportunity to live in Canada for four years...traveled up, down and across much of Canada for my job. Lived for two years in British Columbia and one year in Olds, Alberta. It was the best experience in my whole life! Canada has beautiful landscape and caring, helpful and lovely people. The best friends I ever had were Canadians.
If you saw the type of kit the guy used, it was basically less than minimalist. He probably could have survived if he did the right things, but he also probably panicked. If it was very windy, keeping a fire going might have been hard, but in those conditions, burn everything you can, make as big of a fire as you can. Dig a hole near the fire if the smoke is blowing too hard and smoking you out. There are ways to make fires that can be shielded from the wind. With the type of gear he used, it was basically just a thin tarp and a thin sleeping bag. He also only started his fires with a bic lighter, which would make it obvious why he couldn't get a fire going in windy conditions, although it's still possible to do so by creating a protective mound around things to break the wind, but who knows, maybe his lighter ran out or the flint in it ran out. If he even had a windproof lighter on him, he could be alive today. He also never really gathered much wood for fires, which would also explain how even if he could start a fire, he would be in dire straits pretty quickly. The lesson here is to always be over prepared. It's almost sad seeing his previous videos and looking at his kit as a tragedy waiting to happen. I once saw a youtuber who was trucking toward the arctic while making van life videos, and I implored them that they weren't prepared and should turn around, and I made it very sternly and clear as to why. They didn't listen, and it ended tragically. They were obviously woefully unprepared for those temperatures, and even more unprepared for if they had a vehicle breakdown. Their vehicle obviously wasn't in a position to handle those temperatures, and they were seemingly relying solely on a rescue beacon in case things got hairy, thinking "no problem, someone will come rescue me if things go wrong". Except people don't realize that rescue isn't always possible, and usually takes a long time even when it is. Everyone wants to make a name for themselves on youtube, but its driven people to be careless, risking their lives for clicks and views.
My Sincere condolences to the family. I have been in two instances with hypothermia. Both when I was deer hunting at age 19, and 20. It was raining and in late November here in NB Canada. I was wearing clothes that were not very waterproof. And the old style long johns I was wearing are not good when wet either. I luckily made it out ok, but was shaking uncontrollably both times. There is no reason for anyone in this day and age to freeze to death in wet cold conditions. Especially with all of the advancements in cold weather clothing. High quality moisture wicking thermal underwear today will dry itself out just from your body heat. All outdoor outerwear comes in rain proof configurations. Uninsulated Rubber boots are terrible in cold weather. Good quality waterproof insulated laced pack boots are worth every bit more you pay for them. And finally the "Real' reason these deaths are preventable. 'Chemical Handwarmers' I have used them for years. They will burn hot enough to blister your toes. They last for 8 hours. You can put them in your boots (over socks).To prevent burns tie lanyards to them with a slider and drop them in a baby sock and around your neck. Then drop them down against your chest. Squeeze them under your armpits. They will last all night. Everyone should carry them in their cars for winter storms. I buy them in bulk. You can never have enough of them. Stay healthy. 🙏
Agreed! They got me through a winter season working in -25 when the company I was working for insisted I wear caulked saw boots. I mean, I guess it is harder to cut your foot off if it's frozen solid 🙃
@@erika.ohiyesa Good to hear you were using them. Right now with all of the heavy snow storms across the eastern states, people should always have them in their car. If you are stranded, you may have to stay in it all night. And the hand warmer's will save you from freezing and burning all your fuel! Stay healthy! 👍🙏
A boy who lived on my old mail route took his truck into the alaskan wilderness to find himself when he was just 18. It took years before his remains were found and returned to his family. They were never the same, even I could tell.
Majority of people who historically got into survival situation in fact did not survive. It is good to be prepared to survive but putting yourself in a real survival situation willingly is reckless.
Good point on temperature. Minus 20C snow is like flour and easy to deal with but minus 6C is wet snow which is waasy nastier because it wets out then freezes into ice. You get wet and it's much worse being damp at - 6 than dry in - 20.
additionally hypothermia can make people lose proprioception (the sense of their position of arms , legs etc in space) This causes risk of injury and slipping etc.
In the 80's I was Canadian Infantry, for 5 years. Every winter we would practice our winter survival training. The cold winter months can be very dangerous if you aren't prepared. Stay safe and try to stay calm in a tense situation.
I’ve told others that Mother Nature is the worlds greatest serial killer. Does not care. Does not even notice you. It’s you against her and it’s life or death. Even a day trip needs prep and planning. Take nothing for granted.
Thanks for putting this tragic story out there. Survival training is never a guarantee, it's just a practiced opportunity for a better outcome. But to NOT have that training is a guarantee for a worst outcome.
When I was younger I took a hike in -25 F just because I wanted to see how it felt etc. About half way through the hike the temps dropped even more and suddenly I could feel my body slowing down, not tired just not functioning like normal. I turned back and could really tell it was getting dangerous, and I was dry still. From then on I took cold temps very serious and always carry gear to survive in way worse than expected. It saddens me this young Swed lost his life and it's also sad but true that survival lessons are another thing often written in blood.
Tragic story. I have watched all his videos in RUclips and I noticed that in all of them he just used lighter to start fire. A lighter in negative temperatures will not work unless you warm it up. He had reasonable skils to process wood to light a fire, but maybe he struggled with the ignition method he had (lighter) in freezing temperature. Always carry lighter, matchs and ferrod!!!! Greetings from the woods in Sweden
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Hey, Dub. Are you in Northern Midwest?
You mentioned being colder than -6!!
I’m Kentucky around 25F.
Now I’m off to research what an Orange Rockstar is. ✌🏼
Put fat wood in a vacuum bag. Just a few ounces. For emergencies. Strike a fero rod and you have a fire. Emergency fire systems are beyond critical. Road flares also, but maybe less reliable. fatwood is a gift from God.
Probably not a good idea to use this video time for monetizing your videos after a tragic death 😮 while asking for a cameo
Don't work like that, 50 centimeters of dense snow, now you're digging and cold. Camping in an open field in winter is idiotic, the windchill factor is horrible.
I married an outdoorsman when we were 20. We went camping in the cold snowy mountains right after we married. I remember being so cold I thought I would die! When he told me to get naked and cuddle with him in the sleeping bag of our tent, I thought he was just wanting some hanky panky! 😂 He told me the body heat would warm us up, so I did as he said. Had a warm comfortable sleep💕
I remember one trip he stayed up all night feeding the fire to keep me warm. He was a keeper, 42 years later, He’s still keeps me feeling safe.
Different era, he had a job that paid well. People today don't get the same life, they are stuck making CEOs rich. A CEO just bought the presidency too. Your husband's survival skills will come in handy when joblessness grows and people become violent.
Honestly, all these people making these type of "survival" videos are idiots. None of these type of videos provide any value. You are never going to be in that situation and if you were you would have way more resources.
@@_PatrickO
Hey the CEO had a good first term, and spent a lot less on his run. The alternative spent a billion and is millions in debt just on her run for presidency lol.
@@GEN_X_ Knowing when you're hypothermic or when you are experiencing heat exhaustion/heat stroke could save many people especially if they primarily work outdoors doing heavy labor. Life is an unpredictable occurrence and we may not know what unexpected situation will happen to us. Natural disasters happen, you cannot always rely on the government or FEMA to come and save you; North Carolina is a great example of that recently with the floods. Being able to know how to make a fire is one of the most useful and important skills to know, it's not just a physicality but a psychological and mentality that survival skills teach a person; how to deal with situations under extreme stress and not panic and to be prepared. Starting a fire is more than just keeping you warm, it's a symbolic representation of keeping the flame of your Will burning, it is easy to give up hope when it appears to be lost.
@@flamegator3251 Calling him a CEO is kind of funny since his company constantly failed or had legal issues. But considering this was one of the slimmest margins of victory in US presidential history and he lost house seats, I would say the other campaign did not exactly fail. It was a 3.5 month campaign vs a guy running since the 80s.
I suffered from hypothermia once after falling through some ice, while camping in Maine. I was hinking back to camp wet from the waist down, when a blizzard came through.
Got lost, confused, & it was extremely difficult to concentrate & remember anything, which is why I got lost.
I don't know how to describe it, but it was like I had to force myself to think... & I had to intensely analyze the simplest thoughts just to perform simple tasks.
When I finally made it back to camp, the blizzard had put out the fire... & there was so much concentration just to process the thought of restarting the fire. It felt like I was learning how to make fire for the 1st time as if I had never done it before.
As I was building a wind shelter for the fire, I suddenly remembered I had chemical warming packs. I put them in my gloves, boots, & underwear. It felt like they were burning my skin, but I ignored the sensation, because I knew it was from me being so cold. And the joint pain... oh God did that hurt beyond imagining.
After the wind shelter was built I restarded the fire, which seemed like it took hours, because the task was so much more difficult while being confused. I finally got the fire lit, & was able to finally start to get warm. Luckily I had the forethought to have a large pile of firewood stored nearby before I left camp.
That was the coldest experience of my life. Those chem packs saved me. I'll never winter camp again without carrying a couple dozen of those things on my person.
thank you for sharing. perhaps your experiences protect some readers from doing stupid things . my friends laugh at me because i told them they should carry some protection against the wet, but i know it better. water can soak your shoes and cl0thes so quickly if there is wet or swamp terrain
What you experienced was your brain shutting down. Scary stuff.
Engaging and useful story. Thank God you got through it.
@@Edmitsu
The irony is, that I wasn't afraid at all until after It was over.
When I was in the moment, I was concentrating so hard on trying to stay cognitive I literally couldn't process fear... but after I got warm & dry, & the blizzard passed, that's when the terror set in.
It was so weird to be struck with the fear of my experience well after I got through it.
Those hand warmers are like $2 each and you can reuse them multiple times. Have you thought about those survival blankets too? Kind of the size of a hand warmer. I've been contemplating if they're worth carrying but after hearing your story, I'm sure they are. They do weigh a bit as they contain that liquid but maybe 4 of them is a good investment and a reasonable weight.
If he left his tent, he had lost his thinking ability because of hypothermia. People have been known to take their clothes off before succumbing to hypothermia, imagining that they are too hot. Condolences to the young man’s family.
Or a tree fell on it; or some other destruction. May have had no choice; we may never know.
@@alitloff Donna's right. He was freezing in his tent and wasn't thinking straight.
Right, Donna. I forgot that story, I heard it when watching some mountain hiking videos and the possible tragedies occurring. I don’t understand how he received the fractures, though. Maybe stumbling over some rocks or into a tree. 😢
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People really get hot inside, not only imagine it. It's a final body's attempt to survive by contracting superficial blood vessels and hyperdilating internal blood vessels. It directs great amounts of remaining heat to internal organs. People cloth off to cool down due to real heating, not an imaginary one
He died in my Country Sweden, and he was only 22 years old. From Belgium. Rest in Peace
Belgium gets a few cms of snow at most in winter, temps only rarely drop to -10°C. A typical Belgian winter is 1°C and ice-cold rain from december to march, similar to english climate.
@@bromisovalum8417 Thanks for the info. Then the Swedish winter differs alot. Especially up in the northern parts.
Expert at 22? Nature is not to be underestimate. To many people risk it to get a klicks but it's not a joke out there in the cold. RIP
too young and inexperienced
😢
A woman in my hometown died in upper 50 Fahrenheit (14 Celsius) weather after falling into a creek while out for a night of drinking in a farmer's field. The group had gotten too drunk, and they ended up driving off and leaving her behind, knowing she was soaking wet. The driver was charged and convicted of manslaughter. It really doesn't have to be very cold to die from hypothermia. Stay dry, and don't drink and drive. My sympathy to the young man's family in this recent tragedy.
What town,?
@@RockymountainRobert It was in Tennessee. I don't care to elaborate further.
50 Fahrenheit = 10 Celsius
Praise invisible sky 💩
So if I fail to render aid, I am responsible for her death. Sounds like a charge to make the prosecutor look good politically.
Outdoor survival requires a lot of knowledge and preparation. Do not attempt without training and controlled practice.
I’ve done overnight snowmachine trips here in Alaska and camped out in temperatures below -30. Proper gear is a must. I worked in the Arctic over 30 years.
@@Chris_at_Home Did a 36 mile cross country ski marathon in -44 one year, food is as important as your gear imho. My gear sucked in that temp but luckily I am one of those people that runs hot if you apply enough food to me. Finished it with a blown out knee and never went again.
I hate this damn cold weather I wish it didn't exist at all
I love winter as much as summer, but what i love the most is being alive. Stay safe out there boys and keep your loved ones safe as well.
@@davidgray8089 We were well fed doing work in the Arctic. Many camps in the oil field had their own baker. Back in the early 80s Sundays were always Surf and Turf with lobster or crab along with a some good beef. One job I had we would put up and take down towers over 200 feet tall in the dead of winter at oil exploration drill sites. Oil companies like their communications.
Panic is your worst enemy in a survival situation. Knowledge is your best friend.
Panic is a persons worst enemy in any situation.
@@alph8654and that's exactly why everyone hates a screaming woman.
@@kkiuoi and that's exactly why 90% of violence are done by men, prone to emotional outbursts as they are :)
The survival-siutation itself is the proof that you had too little of knowledge and you were not prepaired. 😂
Hard not to right?😞
About 30 years ago I got lost in a snowstorm while backpacking. In my panic, it was so difficult to sit down , try to gain composure and think things through. Had I frantically searched for the trail, I don’t know how bad it might have ended up. By stopping as soon as I realized I was in trouble it didn’t take long to relocate my trail.
people forget that hypothermia makes your brain shut down and planning ability and abstract reasoning gets affected :/
Such a crucial point.
Yah. I’ve had it more times than I can count. Winter sea kayak, spring whitewater. I’ve helped with safety in public spring canoe races. It’s as unpredictable as drugs or alcohol with how people will react. Shivering is an early stage. It’s important to safely practice getting mild hypothermia to learn to read your own reactions and limitations. You can’t use zippers or clasps. The water looks like a soft pillow, you just want a nap…
Yes. There have been documented cases where people have been disoriented from hypothermia and actually removed clothes and died. It affects your entire reasoning.
@@greenman4508 "safely practice getting mild hypothermia"🤪💀
@ sounds like a good way to go, just unfortunate that panic precedes it though.
I was homeless and lived in a hot tent in the Scottish Highlands for 20 months, washed in frozen streams at times etc. You really need to know what you're doing as it doesn't take much for things to go wrong. The coldest was -14C and winds up to 60mph but I survived. The biting midges were my biggest problem!! My sleeping bag was a Dutch army M90, awesome bag but huge and heavy but so warm!
Damn that's a hard existence. :/
Idaho has a similar climate. I was homeless on an island in the middle of a river with no tent and would get up every day, get dressed in 7F weather, and go work in an office (for a bank! lol). Spring came around and some explorer found me and I ended up with a $300 ticket from the cops.
One of the things I vividly remember was waking up in the morning feeling what I thought of as 'the chill of death'. It's definitely a vibe. Hard men, hard times.
I hope you live a good life now ❤️
Hope your life situation gets better. 🙏🙏
Damn son! True survivor
Always always always carry extra dry clothes and wool socks and blanket when hiking in the cold. Wool retains its heat value when wet ….. cotton kills!
Yes.An owner of a sporting goods store told me cotton socks will always absorb moisture,where wool tends to wicker away the moisture.
One of the reasons navy P coats are wool or used to be at least. It's been several decades.
Years ago I hitch hiked in blizzards to places like Montana. I survived, but in Cincinnati of all places I nearly froze to death standing out on I-75 on a pile of ice and snow the plows had piled up on the side of the freeway. It was late at night, no busy exit to get to and I was about 5 feet above eye level for even big trucks so I was pretty much stuck in one place. Eventually I started shutting down till I just sat on my duffle and waited to die. I fell asleep and somehow someone in a small pickup spotted me and stopped in traffic and carried my freezing body to his truck and saved my life. I was completely unaware of it happening till I woke up near Middletown at a Denny's restaurant. All I can tell you is that thawing out suddenly minutes away from death is EXTREMELY painful and I was actually dressed for the weather, but not dressed for being stuck up on 20+ feet of ice and snow at night on a busy freeway at 3am.. I definitely don't do anymore hitch hiking at 65 years old ESPECIALLY in the winter.
@@martinoamello3017
Amazing story!
I'm glad you're alive & blessings to the person in the pick-up truck 🤍
good to know
I also bring 4 plastic bags. Even if my shoes are completely wet - I change my socks put my feet into several layers of plastic bags and they remain dry.
Several years ago I fall during canoy trip and soaked my boots. It was september so we already got bellow freezing nights.
My boots were soaked, but with this method I was perfectly dry for the remainder of several days trip.😊
I didn't have spare boots, my bag was already crazy heavy.
There are probably better ways, but spare socks and 4 plastic bags is cheap and weight almost nothing.
Why at least four (some could have holes or make one, so better to take like 6 or even 8 aka 2-4 for each foot as they weight is almost nothing).
My mother gave me this idea as she was hiker and climber mountains back in her day.
Love you mom❤
I remember when 4 army rangers died of hypothermia in February in north Florida and the entire team had hypothermia. It can get in 20s and 30s here at night in winter And they were also in water. If I remember part of the reason for their deaths was they are not from here and refused to believe it was this cold in Florida.
Even those naked and afraid shows the contestants get cold even in Costa Rica
I guess they've never seen the videos of frozen lizards in yards and ocean waves turning into ice pushing up into people's houses.
Yeah I loved in Central Florida south of Ocala for a couple of years for work, and I remember it getting cold enough to ice over the marsh on the conservation property I was working at. The alligators weren't iced in but they had little open areas 3-4ft in diameter.
I remember the day when poor Skinky almost froze to death! He had gotten out of his lockbox - little square box thing inside his enclosure and it was freezing outside in FL. And Kenan found him lying there and he ran with him into the house. And he thought Slinky was dead as he wasn't moving but his son saw him breathing. So they had to warm him up. That was just before Christmas. The cold can kill the exotic animals many FL people have. Slinky is a water monitor and very famous here on YT. But that experience tells you how cold it can get in FL. Especially if you are not dressed for it or used to it. Its way harder to go from 80 F to 20 F than it is to go from 80 F to a few weeks at 60 F than some weeks at 40 F and then it hits 20 F.
I went hunting in Osceola I moved to Jacksonville from western NY 2 years ago and man you ain't kidding this cold is no joke down here different kind of cold then up north with snow.
It was -30 this week here in Alberta,Canada. Brutally cold wind chills. Even opening the door to get wood in a T-shirt was nasty.
God rest his young soul.❤
I can't even fathom that kind of freezing temperature 😫. Minus 30, I live in Australia, we feel cold when it's PLUS 22 DEGREES CELSIUS 😅
@@louise7552-30,-40,-50 really isn't that bad if you dress right. At those temps the air is very dry, so dampness isn't an issue. You just can't have exposed skin or you'll develop frostbite in minutes. Also breathing air into lungs can sometimes be a bit painful. I actually miss the Alberta winters, the air is still and sound travels differently at those temps, it makes for an eerie silence as there's also no animal noises.
Why would you open the door in a t shirt in that weather?
@rinahsegal9736 people wear t-shirt at home. Like I wear tank top here in Phx, Az USA our winter here at night is 40 F durning the day 75-80 F no coat needed just a sweater going outside. He's making example if you open the door with t-shirt on
I rather it be cold , than snow, it's the wind that kills, I'm from upper Midwest it's currently 13 degrees atm
The guy only started his channel 3 months ago.
Sorry to hear this.
What’s the channel called ?
@@Migz-q5m
stormoutdoorsy
How sad... I am thinking he did not realize that he did not have enough experience
to know what he did not know. Deepest condolences to his loved ones.
@@Migz-q5m Stormyoutdorsy but I think its down. His name was Storm De Beul and a very sad thing is that he died from a Snow Storm here in Sweden
@ thank you RIP storm
With all the new and upcoming RUclipsrs, especially in the outdoor genre, it was sooner or later going to happen. It's heartbreaking. He was so young. I don't know his experience, but this goes to show you, that even the most motivated and seasoned backpackers can become vulnerable to the elements. Know your limitations and always have an exit plan.
Such a sad story, I thought you were very sympathetic in your comments regarding the poor man.
I'm in Scotland and the dampness and especially the wind-chill on our hills can bring on hypothermia in what most folk would consider to be benign conditions.
You have to be careful out there.
GRHS.
Wet cold is the most frightening.
I`m also a Scot. I was going to post something similar, that I would rather have a dry -20C than a few degrees and damp.
@markwilkie3677 Absolutely correct Mark. My mate lost his brother-in-law to exposure in The Kilpatrick Hills , in May. Despite being very experienced and having all the right equipment he could not save him. Mountain rescue and the police said he couldn't have done anything more in the situation he found himself in. Wind chill and wet are the real killers in the Scottish outdoors and because it is not blowing a blizzard folk put it out of their mind, until something happens ! Happy Trails.
Aye, defo true. It is a deadly combo that catches folk out here in Scotland and other places with a similar climate.
@@bdmenne Correct, after walking in cold rain for a few hours I got to a hut and my stiff ,shivering hands were almost unable to light a match for my stove. Even with dry clothes and hot food it still took more than an hour to regain anything close to normal.
I fell alone in the woods 14 below was real feel. Shattered my whole body. I was lightly dressed and a 60 second walk to my truck took hours. Keep moving no matter what. When the rescures found me my body temp was 92 degrees. Don't overthink your situation stay positive. I laid under my exhaust pipe of my running truck too also help me survive.
Whoa. You did it. 🤯💪
Wouldn’t getting in the truck make more sense.
@@the-fiddling-foxR/Wooshhh
@@the-fiddling-foxhe took an hour to move 60 seconds distance and his body was shattered so I think the truck was running (pee break or whatever) but he couldn’t get up into the truck.
A heated truck cab would be better
Good points. Never panic - panic kills. Also good points about how deceptive 0 to -10 temps can be. Back when I was in the army, we used to have guys from Ontario come out to the west coast and go on winter ex with us thinking it would be a cake walk because it would only be -2 or -3c, not realizing how the damp west coast air would cut you like a knife. They suffered like hell.
yes, high moisture content in the air plus cold temperatures is a demoralizer. At young age my father said to never panic if your lost in the bush always stay put someone will find you.
Same way training in Louisiana at Ft Polk during winter.
Worse than Ft Drum cause the wet plus cold cuts to the bone.
I live in remote northern Ontario there's nothing easy about the temps we get here
They must of been from Toronto 😂😂😂
Pretty much the same here in the Scottish Highlands, varied temps range and high humidity along with high winds that come without warning. I know us Brits get a lot of stick when we say about our winter camping and stuff like oh it's only -5 don't be a wimp, we get -40 blah blah, but it's a much different climate.
Same for National Guard troops from southern states that came to training in Alaska in mid-winter -- some poor things got frost bite or pneumonia within a week!!
In severe hypothermia people can have hallucinations, paradoxical undressing, decreased consciousness. Thats not panicking he was actively dying.. 😢
Sincere condolences . Northern New Mexico search and rescue.
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Hey, i live in Northern! My hubby loves to solo hike, so if you have any tips or one big piece of info to share about keeping safe in our area I would be very grateful. ❤
@@audity13 Carry more water than you think you will require . Have the ability to purify water. Carry a quality compass and maps . Know how to use them . Do not rely on a cell phone for navigation . Signaling devices / quality flashlight. Quality medical kit.
@@QuantumMech_88 Thank you so much! Happy holidays ❤️
@@QuantumMech_88 the San Juan’s do not play. They’ll take your life before you have any idea WTF is happening.
Sad ..
Here in Switzerland, at 74, I Nordic Walk throughout the year to stay in reasonable shape. Wednesday is a group walk in a neighbouring village and from there, out into farmlamds, hills and forest. I use Public Transport (Bus-Train-Bus each way). Approximately an hour each way including the waits at the exposed bus stops and train station (in-transport time 25 min) .. over-cover shelter only.
I always have spare dry clothing in my day pack .. as required, depending on the weather. Last Winter, I did some experimentation regarding Hypothermia during my return trips. I deliberately did not change out of my damp upper clothing or add additional insulating layers. I 'run hot' and walk 'be bold, start cold'. It took about 10 minutes for my body to 'cool down' enough for me to start feeling chilled. Another 10 minutes and I could sense myself 'slowing down', physically and mentally. Ok, I was not isolated .. was in an Urban Area with assistance at hand if needed, but .. 20-30 minutes under the right / wrong conditions and one could be in serious trouble.
Thanks for sharing and I hope many take heed of the dangers of exposure during any sort of weather.
Take care ..
Thank you for sharing this. Would make a great first-hand video!
You crazy Swiss! :)
If you’re 74 you really shouldn’t experiment with hypothermia. My neighbor 54(not in shape though) shuffled snow at got cold, he took a coffee and all was well.
He went to work, he came home and all was well, then he had a heart attack sitting in his bed.
The doctor told me that it’s not rare for men 50+ to have a heart attack several hours later after getting cold.
I think that your condition matters greatly and to be honest, if you had a weak heart it would have made itself known after that experiment😂
Have a great Winter, Herr Swiss
@@Br1chtOn that note, look into how dangerous shoveling snow actually is. I know of quite a few people that had heart attacks as a direct result of shoveling. Random little tidbit and nothing to do with the gentleman or his story, but I bought my husband and I an electric snow blower after researching!!
I survived 7 years sleeping rough, through some of the worst winter storms.
I had lots of experience and all the right gear.....
I never got to the point where I would shiver or even feel cold..
I awoke under my tarp one night to see snow falling and inches of it on the ground.
I ate half a packet of biscuits as digestion warms you up , and went back to sleep.
I was insulated underneath, was wearing the right clothes, with my boots at the bottom of my Arctic Sleeping Bag.
I had a Bivvy bag , woolly hat and supplies, including gas stove....
This kid is a victim of lack of knowledge and experiance.
He went too far , too fast....
Driven by some strange desire, he went too far....
How many RUclipsrs have died to get their faces out there......
Condolences to all.....
Yep, you nailed it.
That's sad and tragic what happened to this kid. My condoleance to his family.
But this whole "I want to be famous" thing is so dangerous.
Being a "Youtouber" doesn't turn you into an immortal and doesn't infuse you with sudden knowledge kids.
What out out there.
But there are people on RUclips like Rosa who do it the smart way and have been doing so for years.
@@kristirichards2249What is her RUclips channel name?
100%
Yup. He might not be aware that many RUclipsrs who go out into “the bush” are really only a few miles from their vehicle in most cases. They often do it showcase a certain skill or technique, but not literally risking their life. People edit videos to make them seem more intense for views.
Way back in grade school I had a teacher whos friend died of hypothermia. He used one of those emergency blankets overnight and woke up completely soaked in sweat. It didnt take long for the cold to do its thing afterwards.
I used one of those emergency bags years ago on Dartmoor.
I went on a winter camp and had a summer season sleeping bag.
The emergency bag condensated and got me and my sleeping bag quite wet.
I got out of my 1 man tent and started a fire at 4:30 am, to warm up again.
A lesson learned there..
That is frightening. We are led to believe that those things will save you.
@@jayawilder3835
Ha - yeh they are useless, in my experience..
Might work in an emergency short term, if you are guaranteed to get a ride out of there, and be able to dry off.
The condensation is an issue..
They are not supposed to go over any insulation layers, but under them so they don't trap moisture in your insulation layers. Supposed to wear a very quick drying baselayer, then IR reflective VBL, then sleeping bag or quilt.
When used like that, they are fine and add a little extra warmth to a sleep system at low weight, while keeping moisture out of your insulation.
However, they are uncomfortable to use unless the temps are approaching near 0* F with dry air.
I’ve been writing on social media to encourage proper wilderness preparation for several years. I do not know enough about this situation to comment specifically but will offer three imperatives that apply no matter what. And one observation.
1] Check weather Check weather Check weather Check weather. If you have a bad feeling pull the plug. Storms can be battlefield scary and deadly.
2]Especially in four season trekking carry an extremely comprehensive kit. Your ability to get dry, get and stay warm and stay hydrated are not niceties. They are fundamental life support and should never be sacrificed for sake of media. Most “extreme survival challenges” posted here have extensive ancillary support.
3] Make sure two separate parties know where you are headed, have maps of your intended routes and bivouacs and most importantly know a specific check-in time and understand that if you miss that check-in their job is to raise every SAR asset known to man. Personally I find that women over the age of 50 are the safest bet for what I call my “at-home control”
3a] This one may sound critical and I don’t mean it to but I did watch several of Storm’s videos (subbed to his channel to show some brotherly love) In watching his adventures there are strong suits (like his incredible eye for POV shots and insert shots of absolute natural splendor) But it’s evident to us older schools that his axe craft, fire craft and shelter craft tend to indicate someone who is newer to the hobby. At 52 I no longer trek solo because the impact of otherwise minor injuries can be deadly. But if you do choose solo hiking/backpacking please be advised that in America the extreme percentage of accidental fatalities happen to solo-ers. Or to groups where separation occurred . Oddly the majority of hypothermia deaths in North America happen in spring and fall. That’s a whole different story and will make this comment far too long.
Lastly I sincerely pray that his parents be imbued with the peace that passes understanding. That losing such a bright light is brutal but he did what he loved and was doing what he loved best. I hope my sharing these fundamentals helps someone else perhaps approach their ambitions with that extra dose of caution. It can very often make THE difference.
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I hope everyone takes note of this.
I remember when Julian Sands went missing in the mountains. He had years of experience.
But perhaps didn’t heed the weather reports.
All good points you mentioned but the thing is....these youtubers do this for views so they want it as dramatic as possible. So they are willing to take that risk even if it does cost them their lives. To go out there alone even though they know a bad storm is projected just for content.
Wow, great notes, thx
There was a long distance hiker that died of hypothermia in South Florida around 1998-1999. He was from the northeast and didn't think it got cold in Florida. He had minimal clothing when a freak cold front came through and dropped south Florida into the 30-40's F. It doesn't have to be that cold. I've been shivering from getting caught in a downpour and the temperature before it started raining was 90 degrees F. That rain is cold, drops the temperature, soaks you to the bone, wind blows, get even colder.
Wool is the way...wear it against your skin..if it gets wet...you still stay warm. I have wool pants, sweaters, socks, everything..I'm on Vancouver island in the boonies.
Very sad for family, friends..deepest sympathies and condolences. WOOL IS THE WAY 🙏
That's why the airlines that actually still have blankets have wool blankets.
I would rather go naked! I would scratch the skin right off mel!
No, a wicking layer needs to be against your skin...idiot, you don't leave the moisture on your skin....wool will help, but it can't do the whole job alone. Cheap polyester wicking materials are common now...in fact, half my t-shirts are of that sort. Great for winter or summer.
@TheEudaemonicPlague ever hear of Marino wool as a base layer idiot !
@@TheEudaemonicPlague ah yes. We all know of how our ancestors used polyester wicking layers under wool to survive winter conditions for thousands of years. Wool is worthless without hit am i right? 🙄
This makes it clearer than ever how important your actions were when you fell in the water. I was aware of how far you were from your dry clothes and fire, but it shows how you really saved your own life! So sad for the young man's family. Thank you for shining a light on him.
@@nancysarver8120 The thin ice you're on is more dangerous, the false safety under the gooberments boot. I survive because iam built for life's purpose.
At 74 I have had to make some concessions to age. As a 4 season bakpacker sometimes I would head out with others. On one winter trek with two other guys we ended up getting turned around. Although they both had some experience they did start to panic. They finally asked if I knew where we were. I admitted that I wasn't exactly sure but I knew where home was. I told them it was on their back along with their bed, kitchen and food. The next morning we found the trail and finished the hike. Snow can be very disorienting once it covers the trail and the markers.
lol fuckin hardcore dude homes on your back
Part of the problem is that kids are watching RUclips survival channels and actually believe that these "survivalists" are really far away from help and using minimal gear. Don't kid yourselves. These guys are close to help and have an escape plan in place. It's not admirable to put yourself in that kind of situation, it's stupidity.
He died so … ease up.
Even before youtube most of these survival experts were phony. Like bear grylls, total fraud.
@@ClaudeBohls the positive about a critical review is to learn from others mistakes and save other lives so this is not repeated, ŵhen we have codes in the hospital we do this.
@@ClaudeBohlsexactly
You're right about a lot of kids watching RUclips survivalists then going out and trying it with not enough experience.
You did this respectfully, good on u friend. God Bless the young man that passed and his family. 🙏🏻
Seeing all these epic stories in the comment section...I got one of my own. A few years back I lived in a forest on a lake for about 8 months. 40 clicks outside of my town in Vancouver BC. I found an abandoned cabin on a lake in the woods that belonged to an indian tribe and settled in. After sometime the lake ranger discovered me living there and told me I'm totally cool to stay because it has been abandoned for some time. So that was my new home for the upcoming season. Before my life even really started on that lake, in my new sweet cabin, I had a near death experience.
I invited one of my friends over from the city to hang with me on the lake and check out the cabin. The month was April. April in Van is not a warm month, and this lake was a large glacier lake that doesnt even get above 14C in midsummer burning hot weather... In april it is ice cold. I invited my friend to hang and we had a fire and like 6 beer each. It was time for me to canoe him back over to the beach, where the main park was, with all the vehicles, which was a 12 min row. We get there safely, I walk him to the parking lot , he jumps in his vehicle (it was like 320 am, I know he shouldn't have been driving but he was fine) he leaves, and I walk back to my canoe parked on the sand. I dressed real warm, sweater, my winter jacket, thick pants and steel toe boots. The only item that was coming along for this canoe ride was my ultimate tool- which was a small spayed gardeners shovel. It acted as a shovel, a paddle, and a lethal weapon, all at the same time. I wasnt scared of no man or creature in the pitch black of that night. A black bear would get his head split real nice if it was dumb enough to get near me. In a good mood, a little buzzed, I hopped back in the canoe for the 12 min row to my cabin, with the small glow of my fire way out along the beach, as my backtrack guide beacon. The night was so black I couldnt see 2 meters infront me. The black sky merged with the black water. No moon, no nothing. Your eyes couldn't even adjust to this darkness, it was pitch black. I was going completely off my sensation of the water, the canoe and my body, which felt very much alive. The canoe was an 18 foot white Clipper, so I could see the canoe, thats about it.
I take a running start, splash thru the water in my boots, jump on the back seat, and make several power strokes switching from left to right, left to right. Im now gliding thru the pitch black at speed. I can't see the water but Im fully relying on it with the weight my body behind each stroke. On one of the strokes unbeknown to me i slightly turned the shovel, and instead of the paddle , the shovel entered the water like a knife that sliced thru too fast- and with my full body weight behind that stroke I took a forward dive off the canoe, over my right shoulder. My shoulder and face nearly smack the water. I freak out and counterbalance. Smack the water on the other side, pick up water in the canoe, and made the decision to take my foot out of the boat. I thought, "Im still close to the beach, I could probably stand here, I'll walk the canoe back and reset" I get out of the canoe and realize I can't touch bottom, completely dunking into the 7C degree water. I'm way out in the lake, how i thought i was near the beach...was beyond me, big mistake. For some reason in that first moment, I didn't feel how cold the water was. Adrenaline, I guess. I found myself hanging on to the canoe, beside it in the water with water having filled up like 20% of the boat. I remember laughing at that moment out loud, thinking "holy fuck, you are an idiot. How did this happen?!" I calmed myself down, let go of my boots ,my jacket and pants, because they weighed me down and constricted my movement. I figured I could jump onto the canoe somehow and recover this whole thing. I jerked onto the canoe, it moved from under me and went to 80% with water. I touched it again, and it went to 100%...The end... it now sat below the surface with me, without sinking. Fiber glass floats. The sight of it was so fucked up. A moment earlier, I was in it with my flashlight rolling on it's floor making noise, and now it was this white blob beneath me... in the pitch black of night, in the middle of this massive lake. It was truly incredible.
I remember thinking, "i moved to this lake to find peace, to get away from people" but in that moment, I needed those people, I wished those jet skiirs were there or all the annoying boaters that swarm the lake in the summertime. I would just yell, and instantly one of them would be at my aid in 1 min . But nobody was there, I was alone, the lake swallowed me - you wanted to be alone right? Here you have it. Sitting there watching my canoe beside me, I realized i was in a current, the canoe was floating away from me. This lake had a current as it turns into a river a mile down from where I was. The situation was real and I had to make a decision, I either let go of a 2000 dollar canoe and swim to shore or swim to shore with the canoe. I was already like 4 minutes in that water, trying to board the canoe, tugging on it with no avail, and thats when the cold set in. I couldn't take another 5min in that water. My pulse went up, and real fear kicked in, the joke was over. I took the canoe with one hand and swam with the other toward the beach. In like 8 min of panic rows I hit sand. I climbed out onto the beach like Count of Monte Cristo, yelling, laughing and gurgling into the night like a monster, in celebration. Dragged the canoe out. Flipped the water out of it, and realized I lost my ultimate tool...the shovel. The canoe was officially useless. I couldn't go back to the cabin that night. I stripped to my boxers( i had underpants on) and in that windy 7-8 degree night, I walked a mile and a half to the rangers house. Doing the wim-hoff method all the way down the gravel road. My socks were dangling off my feet, and the gravel pierced them like needles. I couldn't even feel my feet after 10 minutes, they felt like nubs with a strange sensation at the end. I knocked on his door at 340 AM , trembling, barely stringing words together, I told him, I dunked the canoe. He laughed at me, welcomed me in, sat me beside his fireplace that was already going, and made me hot chocolate with whiskey. He told me , I should have let go of the canoe, we would have recovered in the morning anyway...It would have gotten stuck in the river.. he had a boat that he took up it all the time.
Thats the story. Thanks for the read. Had to share with Outdoorsmen. Only you understand :)
Tip, do not go out Alone, if anyone ignores you, then dress for survival, they say wear your survival shelter. At least take a tarp, fire materials, etc.
what makes you think having company is better?
@@eddydewilde4958 if one is injured or gets wet, the other can save your life. Pretty simple.
Temps hovering near freezing scare me the most. It's harder to stay dry.
Truth. 'Wet Cold' is a killer.
Totally. The worst conditions to be in are around 30-40 degrees, with rain/sleet/wet snow. As you go further below that, you don't get rain and you get lighter and drier snow.
@@ryanjacobson2508 Yup. Gunnison at 20 below is more survivable than Pennsylvania at 35 above.
You nailed it with the panic statement. I have seen it on a number of Alone episodes. Dr Tan addresses it on his channel. I have been there myself after a blizzard mountain climbing in 1987 . Fortunately the experienced climbers with me recognized it and through a lot of prayer and wisdom we made it out. A woman alomost died on one our groups trips of hypothermia. Inexperience is a huge killer in the wilderness.
That’s wild. Condolences to him and his family.
Darwinism at work
😱😰🙏💖🇬🇧
*Been there myself one time when I was just getting into snow camping and not really knowing what I was doing back then. Ill-equipped for the conditions (roughly between zero and -5 Fahrenheit) I started shutting down mentally.*
*I had managed to pitch the tent, but it was nearing sunset and temp was plummeting precipitously. Was cold enough the nylon of which my jacket was made stopped being a supple fabric and, instead, became more akin to a rigid piece of thin plastic. Metal zipper pulls snapped off in the cold.*
*The situation was bad, but I was so cold I just sat there in the snow barely able to process. I had to manually use my right hand to pry my left thumb open to release my grip on a piece of gear because it would no longer respond to my command. Some part of me **_knew_** I was in imminent danger, but at the same time my slowly-freezing brain was incapable of registering fear, concern, or panic. It was oddly surreal to sit there going hypothermic while simultaneously feeling completely detached from the situation.*
*I finally mustered enough will to tell myself I had to get out of there. However, cold as I was, the simplest tasks were now cognitively overwhelming. I couldn't process any longer. Do I pack this piece of gear first, or that piece of gear? Mental paralysis was setting in. So, attempting to focus my concentration, I tried something simple: add 2 + 2.*
*I couldn't come up with the answer.*
*I **_knew_** that I knew the answer, that at some point in my past I **_knew_** what 2 + 2 **_should_** be. But in that moment, I couldn't even perform simple addition in my head.*
*I struggled for a few moments until finally yelling out, **_"FOUR! IT'S FOUR! TWO PLUS TWO IS FOUR!"_*
*That was enough to spur me into action. I realized at that moment I had to go **_NOW!_*
*So, abandoning all my gear save what I was wearing, I put on my snowshoes and my Husky and I hiked in the dark the two miles back to the trailhead and my waiting pickup. Thank God it started! Headed down the mountain and got a hotel for the night. The overnight low in the town was zero (at elevation 3,000 feet). I had attempted to set up camp at 6,500 feet; so you can imagine it was even colder up there.*
*Returned the next morning to collect all my gear without incident (based on tracks, nobody else had been up there; they were smart enough to get out of the cold, unlike yours truly). The Happy Ending is it taught me some important lessons and the need for a serious overhaul of my gear and my preparation.*
*I returned to the same spot the following year, better equipped and better informed, and spent a very comfortable night camped in the snow with no problems. But I will never forget being unable to command my thumb to function, not being able to add 2 + 2, and that hypothermia is no joke.*
Cold is one thing,wet is one thing,but cold and wet together is another matter.
When your freezing cold,wet and hypothermic I can only imagine how difficult it is to change clothing and get into a sleeping bag,let alone light a fire in that circumstance.
It will take a very determined person to start a fire when wet and freezing. I have done this in a bad predicament, most will fail/give up...😐
Very Very true cold and wet == swamp cooler VERY DEADLY< look up the stats more people die from hypothermia in the spring than in winter. JMHO
Just get naked in the sleeping bag. Curl up like a baby. Head inside so ur breath helps give off heat.
Then u wanna just keep warming your body up in the baby position and pray.
Going for a fire doesnt seem logical in most circumstances
@@LiamRayJames Breathing in your bag will create condensation that will freeze.
Or in the worst case, turn your down bag into lumpy crap with zero isolation.
Perhaps not the first night but the second one or the third.
Better have a sleeping bag with neck collar to keep body heat inside.
Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate you!
So sad about this young man. Just goes to show that an experienced outdoorsman can quickly get in trouble if not totally prepared. I do remember your experience when you were hypothermic walking back to your camp and being confused walking in circles. Very scary!
Yes, and even more tragic is this American tragedy from the 40's": Armistice Day Blizzard of 1940. Ask your AI for the story.
Oh shit, didn't know you had a RUclips, you just popped in my feed. I watched you in Alone and was rooting for you. You were really honest and I respect your mental fortitude immensely. Tough as nails man.
legit survival tip, dub:
if you're wet, get dry
what a tragic situation
A tent can fly away in the wind. Trees may fall. What if there is fog or a light is not working? It can be completely dark at night. Hands go numb easily. Backup lights and plans can help.
a tent is not the only way to take shelter.
If there is a lot of snow, you build a quinzee and leave a small air hole, strip wet clothes off and ball up.
If there is no snow, build a shelter from leaves, grasses, pine boughs, etc, and do the same.
Never stay exposed to the wind with wet clothes.
@@blazel462 It may not work for everyone. Because situations are different. If it works, great.
@@blazel462Building a shelter can take hours that someone doesn't have
What else would you suggest@@Meskarune
I got hypothermia on our yacht just cos I got cold n wet with the waves crashing over the boat while I was steering. My husband was up trying to lower the sails in a sudden squal. It happened so fast. You can be totally incapable of even undressing out of wet clothes. Luckily we had dry clothes and extra blankets on board and hubby wrapped me up into blankets and dry clothes! He said later he was really scared. We had to shelter in a bay with no one else around. It was summer!! At 4am as soon as it got light he set sail to get me home asap. The storms can run their course quickly but they can arrive so quickly! RIP to Storm! ❤
glad you both came thru okay!! good to share your experience
@5474online thank you. It's not until you experience it that you understand how weak and disoriented you get. I couldn't undress or do buttons. I was shaking uncontrollably and couldn't speak or walk by myself to get into warm blankets. Apparently people hallucinate and also feel "hot" when they're freezing up so that's why many are found without clothing after they have passed away!
I once suffered from cold water immersion syndrome after being thrown from a hot tub into a pool during winter. (It was snowing at the time) I can't explain the helplessness and panic I felt when my muscles seize up. I couldn't swim or even make my lungs expand to take a breath. I'm lucky I didn't inhale much water from the shock of the cold, but the amount of effort it took to swim just 15 ft was monumental. It was an even greater difficulty to get out of the pool because I felt so weak. I genuinely thought I was going to die. At the time, my so-called "friend" just laughed at me and made no effort to help... But years later, I learned I was in real danger of not just drowning, but shock, heart failure, and respiratory failure. (I have asthma)
Yep. I was outside, nighttime, winter, in my pj's, and I had an outside water hose sprayed on my back. My ribscage began convulsing. I could not control it. I thought I was going to die.. age 72.
I did my military service in the Swedish army ranger battalion, and we where located very close to that area. The weather in early winter can be very unforgiving with rain and wet snow during the day and very cold freezing temperatures during the night. We learned to treat the sleeping bag as holy, as well as a dry setup of thermals and socks, keeping these in plastic bags to ensure they kept dry. We would never march in these to prevent them from getting wet due to rain/snow/sweat, only putting them on when we were in the tent or very stationary. When marching again, we would change and put on the wet, sometimes frozen clothes that we did not treat as holy. This could be really painful, but you would always get warmer after some marching.
Wow, thx, that sounds counter intuitive tbh I would never think of putting dry back in and put on wet for a march, makes me want to go for such training. Thx again
Sad. But in this age of internet and YT, everybody is an expert. On anything they decide to be an expert on.
Who said he was an expert?
@@redpillnibbler4423 my point is self imposed...YT channel making a winter survival video, just saying...i wont do something i dont know much about just for clicks.
@@passingthru4383
Fair point.
yep...most the people in my office are 'experts' because they watch a few youTube videos and go outside on the weekends.
the worst is having to listen to all their nonsense!
I live in Alaska. I help with search and rescue. Hypothermia makes people do odd things. Had a friend find a man who was frozen sitting next to his snowmobile taking his parka off. Scary sight but yea hypothermia makes you act abnormal sometimes
Hypothermia doesn't really affect me for some reason. I had it two times and each time never felt like I was out of touch.
First time I got it when the temps dropped from 50 to 22 in an hour while I was walking. I felt so cold but knew if I did not keep walking I was done for. So I just walked and refused to stop. I only had minor frostbite on my thighs and biceps(yes, thighs and biceps. Not my face, feet, hands. I am and was just as confused as you probably are).
Second time I was in a tent in my friend's yard as it was August and we wanted to sleep outside. When we woke up our temperatures were 94F. Which is funny to me because I felt wide awake and energized. My friend went inside the house but I got up, went outside the tent, and ran a mile and did pushups. My temp rose back to normal just from the exercise.
I guess the cold makes me want to move. And it works, moving my feet and hands is probably what kept them from frostbite.
as much as I'd love to hike and wild camp with my dog (we go camping everywhere together). I realised I don't have the skills or instincts to hike up a mountain safely, I read a story about a guy going hiking with a friend and his dog, the weather turned very quickly, and basically his dog became lame from the cold and he had to leave him behind (the dog later died), I decided then, that if an experienced hiker can get in that horrendous situation, then what hope would I have, so I made a decision that I'd never put myself and certainly not my dog in that dangerous situation, bad decisions, lead to bad times.
You can go on shorter hikes in the summer time. You don't have to hike all the way up a mountain.
Condolences to his friends and family.
When i was a 10~ year old once i was on a skiing holiday with my family in the French Alps. We were out skiing just before the evening, i got completely lost from my family(there were tons of people). I tried to search them and basically had no chance of finding them. Night came and i was a kid alone in the mountains. I figured if i didn't find shelter from the snowfall/wind during freezing temperatures i was a goner so i found the nearest pine trees, made a pit out of the snow to cover me from the wind and the pine leaves covered me from falling snow. I pretty much got 0 sleep that night but came out ok(exhausted and freezing). Went down the mountains first thing the morning and contacted authorities. My relatives were more pissed than relieved that i made them go through that but thats another story. Was on the national news in France that day.
Ben je Nederlander?
@@suran396 Belgisch
@@agagqbq did you lose a shoe that day?
@@suran396 no i had full skiing gear on, those shoes are impossible to lose. i do have Palmar Erythema now which most likely started because of this event
@@agagqbq ah. I found an article about a very little boy this happened to, and also survived by hunkering down by pine trees. But he was younger, Dutch, and lost a shoe. Wasn't you, I guess!
You were both very fortunate to survive.
I think its important for some people to realise that you can really die out there. Exposure is real & you dont necessarily need it to be particularly cold to succumb to its affects, wetness is also a factor. Social media platforms can be the enemy, they make everything look fluffy, safe and anyone can do it with minimal knowledge or equipment. My heart goes out to his family ❤😢
Yes, managing moisture in the cold is paramount. A lot of people wear too many clothes on the hike and end of sweating too much causing them to get really cold when they stop.
I live in the Pacific Northwest. It is cold and wet all the time. Once you are wet, you are screwed unless unless you can get a fire going. The best thing that you can Do is be prepared. I always bring a lighter, a pharaoh rod. Poor kid
I'm in the pine bush in Ontario. I wouldn't even know how to begin building a shelter or fire in woods like this video. With pines, you can make a lean-to by bending and breaking off branches, and there's always dry dead wood under the tree and dead branches hanging loose.
*Ferro rod, from ferrocerium
@branchrickey9123 Yeah that's what I called it Pharaoh rod.
@ Ferro
@branchrickey9123 That's what I said pharaoh
Condolences 💐 to a far too young man. Thanks for sharing 😢🤍🕊️.
This is a good time to offer the story of the "Endurance," on the National Geographic Channel. The crew of the "Endurance." survived in continuingly degrading conditions in Antartica in the early 1900's for over a year! Everyone lived in, and through the harshest conditions on the planet! Check out the kit, clothing and exploitation of resources to see how they made it home. The rhetorical question is: How did they do it without the modern materials we have today? Certainly not alone-----
Also... Shackleton's (Endurance's Captain) book/audiobook (South! The Story of Shackleton's Last Expedition 1914-1917) is in the public domain and can be found for free on the Project Gutenberg and Librivox websites. It is an incredible story.
I think I know that story
One of his men fell into the water when the floe they were resting on cracked . Of course no change of clothes, no fire, no way to get dry. But somehow he survived that. Name was Ernie Holness.
Or the Diatlov Pass story...
@@paullewis5045 I do everything solo OFF GRID
This is such a tragic story but one that is important to remember. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Just subscribed to your channel!
I'm newer to backpacking, but have only done winter camping from 32°F to -17°F... I can thankfully say only time I had to bail was testing gear in back yard! I'm getting ready for my first real test in Alaska coming up. However, I'm planning to take it super easy.
Stay safe, make good decisions. I had to chuckle about you bailing in your backyard. A couple years back, I had some new winter gear I wanted to try out, but wasn't confident enough with the gear's first use in the mountains here in Colorado. So, off to my backyard I go! Around midnight or so it just wasn't working out, and all I could think of was how nice and toasty my house was. Didn't even pick up my gear. Saved that for later the next day. Have fun! Good luck.
@rkf2746 i did like 8 nights in the back yard 2 years ago before my first wilderness trip! The first ever backpack trip was January in U.P. michigan, not alot of room for error. Haha, went mostly well!
@@SuperdutyExplorer lol!! I've probably spent more time in the backyard than the mountains, if truth be told. I hear the UP is some pretty cool country.
Have a great winter. Allow a small window for error, that keeps us honest.
👍👍👍 .. bailing in the back yard is the best place.
Practicing beforehand .. oneself and gear close to or at home is time very well and wisely spent.
So many of the commenters here seem to think gear is the solution to outdoor survival, although having the correct clothing and good equipment is helpful, having real knowledge and a solid skill set with experience and a deep seated will to live is what keeps you alive and comfortable when going gets tough...
True, but good gear can also easily save your life. Couple stories on here from people about how having a change of clothes or chemical based heating packs saved their lives. If you are new to wilderness survival you aren't going to have the knowledge, but you may be able to invest or bring some stuff with you that will give you options you wouldn't normally have. Maybe the kid couldn't afford some of the gear suggestions, but I'd wager this kid had more clothes at home, but it sounds like he didn't pack spare clothes in case he got wet.
Also just because you buy the gear doesn't mean you have to use it. I've never understood these wilderness survival things where people don't have backup gear just in case something goes wrong. Even if you want the challenge that doesn't mean you can't bring equipment with you that you don't use. Those heater packs are fairly cheap and light, a small bottle of lighter fluid could be very useful, etc. If you are doing solo survival type stuff like this I'd suggest packing a small bag of stuff that you will use in an emergency, and not going so far out in the woods alone that a rescue team with decent gear can't come out and get you if they can't use a helicopter. Get to your site and then put the bag aside, obviously if you are going to call for a rescue then you shouldn't have a problem using it at that point. Even better just make more content and film what you are putting in the pack and ask for suggestions on what else you should have.
And if we really dive deep enough it's also true that good enough gear can help you survive any outdoor weather. We have people living on Antarctica right now. It's just a matter of perspective and just how much gear you are bringing. Although an entire house designed and funded by a government is probably beyond the gear most outdoor weather survivalists can get. Although I'd imagine a few of the people in Antarctica do consider themselves outdoor weather survivalists, especially the around 1,000 that stay there over winter.
@michaelmurray6197 🤔😏👍
I work outside in Cleveland. I can work all day when it is zero degrees. The worst days are when the temps are upper 30s, lower 40s, and rain.
RiP storm.
I knew the snow could be dangerous. But seeing this is eye-opening. For someone like me who is from Los Angeles and not used to snow at all. I love watching these outdoor adventure videos, especially the ones in the snow are my favorite. I would love to travel van lifestyle, but I've got a lot to learn clearly.
The struggle of not acting. I probably would have made the same mistake.
(Quick edit:) The will to force yourself to hunker down despite feeling the need to act is probably why you're the only Alone contestant to ever survive being sick.
I`m Finnish. Here is same climate as Sweden. Winters are very familiar to us. It is automatic reaction to stay warm in any situations. No monkey business with cold. Some people swimming in icy water but they get warm in sauna.
When i was a kid, my friends and i were playing on the river because it had frozen over, i went near a spot that had a tree sticking through the ice and went straight through, as soon as i went in i could hardly move, and when i made it out of the water and started running home, my boots and overalls had frozen stiff.
I think that running saved you. The body generates heat through exercise and it was getting you closer to safety
I feel real sorry for the guy and his family and friends so sad and tragic. I got hypothermia a couple of times but not in the coldest temperature. I was traveling to and from work 80 miles each way on a motorcycle. I was on my way home one day it was wet but well above freezing. I started feeling bad headache shaking dizzy and just generally unwell. I barely got home. Almost fell off the motorcycle and staggered in . I said to my wife about it all, got a hot coffee and went to bed shivering. I had a couple of quilts on me and a sleeping bag. Took hours for me to stop shaking and get warm. Once you start getting that way you are in trouble unless you get warm and dry quickly. Had frostbite on fingers and toes luckily it was minor. Trouble is when get like that without someone around you often don't recognize the symptoms until it is almost to late.
He was just starting out. Rest in peace.
Thank you, Dub Gone Wild. You are very kind to memorialize this poor, young man who died all alone in the cold, may he rest in peace.🌹❤
When I was in my twenties, I got heatstroke in early spring and hypothermia in early fall. Each time, I was shocked by the outcome because the weather felt mild when I'd left the house. I had no idea how dangerous it would become after just a few hours of exposure, especially because I'm the type that ignores physical discomfort, so I didn't register the early signs that I was in trouble. Luckily, I was close to home each time, but it scared the hell out of me.
I lost my job for this reason. I was roofing and got heatstroke.
But was worth losing the job to preserve my own health. Doesn't matter how tough you are, heatstroke can kill easily and so can the cold. Life is fragile
@WilliamCelandine Come on, you weakling! Don't you know you're supposed to be willing to die on that rooftop for a paycheck? You're not here to make a decent living so you can enjoy your life and raise your kids. You're here to bleed for your masters and fatten up their bank accounts. What a world! I hope you found a better job and more respect.
I’m a nurse, and a camping, hunting, fishing Mainer my whole life, 54 years.
Last summer I went mushrooming in the forest behind the University of Maine. I planned to walk in 30 minutes, then turn around and come back out.
No water, nothing at all to drink.
I was out there 5 hours and walked 7 miles. I’m lucky I didn’t die from heat exhaustion. It was humbling.
Thanks for sharing the horrific news. God bless his soul, and prayers to his family & friends.
The worst thing is panic and then not think rational. I remember 2 times it happened to me. One was getting lost and panic and rush didn't help. And anothee was hypothermia. I was night hiking and the clothes had moisture. I stoped on a concrete foundation in the middle of the mountain and started to fall asleep. As soon as i can i woke up from that, set up my tent, got inside and turn on the stove. That was like i instantly woke up and i take off my wet clothe and change. P.s: sometimes i still get lost, now i carry a whistle, a handy radio and a compass.
I watch his videos whenever they come across my feed. This is so awful and I can’t even imagine how his friends and family are feeling right now. It’s so important to be prepared for these situations.
wow thats a tough one, RIP.
Man i heard about this too. It happened in my home country. Its really tragic. I heard the dad wants to travel there and try to find hes camera etc during spring. And if the dad sees this comment please reach out. I would like to help you.
May hes soul rest in peace
So sad! Thank you for the safety tips!
Dub ... just saw this video on my feeds and realized I watched you on Alone ... you did a great job on there and I enjoyed this seasons cast. In watching this video, I feel sorry for the young guy and his family. Prayers going out to the family.
In the throes of death, the brain can make the body do some mighty strange things. I've seen men within seconds of their final breath, suddenly get up and bolt to nowhere in particular, then just as suddenly, make that final drop. It was as if they'd seen 'The Reaper' suddenly appear over them, and they tried to flee in a panic.
Where?
@@gumbootcloggers8330 telling me you're a fed w/o saying it?? I'll state this much: I was _not_ "The Reaper" for those previously mentioned "men".
Crime scene cleaners call it a death walk.
@@TerminusHostilia did you work in hospice care?
Congrats on your Alone journey, Dub. You're a legend sir.
Happy to have found your channel and subbed.
Much love ❤
New subscriber here my buddy , that was a sad story thanks for sharing. Do not panic is definitely the key. Enjoyed you on Alone and was sure I was subscribed to you already definitely am again. Hope you have an awesome week
thanks for sharing this tragic story and spread awareness. be prepared for the worst if you gonna go into nature everyone no matter what. Whoever or however strong you are you will never win over nature
Wait I heard about this, I live in the northern sweden just a few km away from where it happened. We hadnt had any real snowfall until a large storm came around and ended up with a near meter of snow in most areas. Things got pretty cold and fast so our bodies hadnt had time to adjust and adapt to the cold so even with my usual winter gear it still felt really cold. Heard the guy had just like a hoodie on and such. Rip
Hey Dub, glad I stumbled across your channel. Got a kick out of your adventures on Alone, glad to see you’re around.
Thank uou for making this video.Gods peace for the young man who passed on.May he rest in Gods Peace and love.😢❤
I live in Alberta I’ve been out hunting in -30 Celsius all day important thing if you get cold start a fire and dry everything if you’re wet and if it’s starting to get dark don’t go anywhere’s just gather up enough wood to last you throughout the night And also never panic as soon as you start to panic it’s a death sentence
The desire for attention kills, history has proven this over and over again. RUclips is full of these people.
That's not fair
Assumptions about the dude doesn't help at all. All we know is that he recorded himself in the wilderness no need to downplay his character
If you're wet, get dry. If you're lost, stay put.
Excellent and vital advice!!
My thoughts, and sympathies for the parents and friends, sad to lose such a person. Thank you for being so sympathetic to the family.
Wool, people, pure sheep wool, it keeps you warm wet or dry, wool socks are NOT an option, everyone should have a pair.
Even if you don't go camping, have several pairs of pure wool socks just to wear around the house (I don't camp anymore), but my kids all have wool undergarments, and when it's minus -30'C and you're sitting on top of a tractor without any cover and it's windy, trust me, you want wool long johns, socks, toque, a heavy coat, hood up AND a balaclava...and you are still cold, (my dad would still smoke a cigarette, with ice forming around his face, on his stubble, and his eyelashes & eyebrows and he'd have two thermoses of hot coffee with him).
The number of times I had to put a bale in the round feeder (we free fed) for my horses and I would be shaking coming in (there were times at -40'C when the tractor didn't want to start and when I started it, I would load two bales, even though I was only supposed to do one, just so I didn't have to worry for the next few days, lol). I went out once after putting one in the feeder and one loose (twine removed of course) only to find my Shadow had kicked open the bale and was standing in it sleeping, his back and butt, and the bale covered in ice & snow, and my dad laughed, and said, "Now that's a happy horse, belly's warm and that crust will keep him toasty with all the food he can dream of."
The cold is not a game. Please be careful.
I live in Manitoba, Canada, we have winter kit in all of our vehicles, and we get our vehicles checked out and ready for winter every fall.
Weather does not care about you, and Lady Winter gives no quarter.
Hiker from Sweden here.
So what people do not realize is the problem was not the temperature in itself. Following this guy we know he has seen worse temps in some of his adventures. The problem was, and the reason he sent out an emergency call, the winds. The windeffect can make -4 seem like -25, and in those temperatures, with intense snowing, and really no way to make a proper fire, it is very difficult to survive if you have not seen those conditions before.
Let that man rest in peace and be remebered forever in our adventure hearts
I love the winter, live for it! And i always travel heavy,. Tons of extra poop!! And I suffer chronic pain,. So I get a lil angry,. But i use that anger to motivate me to move and make my core heat rise,. Youd be surprised to see how warm you get swinging an axe or some mad squats,. I have good gear,, 2 woolly blankets, a woolly hat, and 3 sets of mittens, and thats just the minimum, always go in with 2 back up plans,. And a shit ton of shit to burn,. Rubbing alcohol on a rag on a branch isnt much but it gets shit started and may god watch over you all,. My deepest condolences to his familia, and may god grant mercy for his familia misery 🙏🏽
Excellent advice on gear and clothing! I lived most of my life in California near LA but had the opportunity to live in Canada for four years...traveled up, down and across much of Canada for my job. Lived for two years in British Columbia and one year in Olds, Alberta. It was the best experience in my whole life! Canada has beautiful landscape and caring, helpful and lovely people. The best friends I ever had were Canadians.
If you saw the type of kit the guy used, it was basically less than minimalist. He probably could have survived if he did the right things, but he also probably panicked. If it was very windy, keeping a fire going might have been hard, but in those conditions, burn everything you can, make as big of a fire as you can. Dig a hole near the fire if the smoke is blowing too hard and smoking you out. There are ways to make fires that can be shielded from the wind. With the type of gear he used, it was basically just a thin tarp and a thin sleeping bag. He also only started his fires with a bic lighter, which would make it obvious why he couldn't get a fire going in windy conditions, although it's still possible to do so by creating a protective mound around things to break the wind, but who knows, maybe his lighter ran out or the flint in it ran out. If he even had a windproof lighter on him, he could be alive today. He also never really gathered much wood for fires, which would also explain how even if he could start a fire, he would be in dire straits pretty quickly. The lesson here is to always be over prepared. It's almost sad seeing his previous videos and looking at his kit as a tragedy waiting to happen.
I once saw a youtuber who was trucking toward the arctic while making van life videos, and I implored them that they weren't prepared and should turn around, and I made it very sternly and clear as to why. They didn't listen, and it ended tragically. They were obviously woefully unprepared for those temperatures, and even more unprepared for if they had a vehicle breakdown. Their vehicle obviously wasn't in a position to handle those temperatures, and they were seemingly relying solely on a rescue beacon in case things got hairy, thinking "no problem, someone will come rescue me if things go wrong". Except people don't realize that rescue isn't always possible, and usually takes a long time even when it is.
Everyone wants to make a name for themselves on youtube, but its driven people to be careless, risking their lives for clicks and views.
My Sincere condolences to the family. I have been in two instances with hypothermia. Both when I was deer hunting at age 19, and 20. It was raining and in late November here in NB Canada. I was wearing clothes that were not very waterproof. And the old style long johns I was wearing are not good when wet either. I luckily made it out ok, but was shaking uncontrollably both times. There is no reason for anyone in this day and age to freeze to death in wet cold conditions. Especially with all of the advancements in cold weather clothing. High quality moisture wicking thermal underwear today will dry itself out just from your body heat. All outdoor outerwear comes in rain proof configurations. Uninsulated Rubber boots are terrible in cold weather. Good quality waterproof insulated laced pack boots are worth every bit more you pay for them. And finally the "Real' reason these deaths are preventable. 'Chemical Handwarmers' I have used them for years. They will burn hot enough to blister your toes. They last for 8 hours. You can put them in your boots (over socks).To prevent burns tie lanyards to them with a slider and drop them in a baby sock and around your neck. Then drop them down against your chest. Squeeze them under your armpits. They will last all night. Everyone should carry them in their cars for winter storms. I buy them in bulk. You can never have enough of them. Stay healthy. 🙏
Agreed! They got me through a winter season working in -25 when the company I was working for insisted I wear caulked saw boots. I mean, I guess it is harder to cut your foot off if it's frozen solid 🙃
@@erika.ohiyesa Good to hear you were using them. Right now with all of the heavy snow storms across the eastern states, people should always have them in their car. If you are stranded, you may have to stay in it all night. And the hand warmer's will save you from freezing and burning all your fuel! Stay healthy! 👍🙏
A boy who lived on my old mail route took his truck into the alaskan wilderness to find himself when he was just 18. It took years before his remains were found and returned to his family. They were never the same, even I could tell.
Majority of people who historically got into survival situation in fact did not survive. It is good to be prepared to survive but putting yourself in a real survival situation willingly is reckless.
Good point on temperature.
Minus 20C snow is like flour and easy to deal with but minus 6C is wet snow which is waasy nastier because it wets out then freezes into ice. You get wet and it's much worse being damp at - 6 than dry in - 20.
additionally hypothermia can make people lose proprioception (the sense of their position of arms , legs etc in space) This causes risk of injury and slipping etc.
In the 80's I was Canadian Infantry, for 5 years. Every winter we would practice our winter survival training. The cold winter months can be very dangerous if you aren't prepared. Stay safe and try to stay calm in a tense situation.
I’ve told others that Mother Nature is the worlds greatest serial killer. Does not care. Does not even notice you. It’s you against her and it’s life or death. Even a day trip needs prep and planning. Take nothing for granted.
Just imagine the last moments of his life. The panic and horror.
Condolences to his family and friends
Thanks for putting this tragic story out there. Survival training is never a guarantee, it's just a practiced opportunity for a better outcome. But to NOT have that training is a guarantee for a worst outcome.
When I was younger I took a hike in -25 F just because I wanted to see how it felt etc. About half way through the hike the temps dropped even more and suddenly I could feel my body slowing down, not tired just not functioning like normal. I turned back and could really tell it was getting dangerous, and I was dry still. From then on I took cold temps very serious and always carry gear to survive in way worse than expected. It saddens me this young Swed lost his life and it's also sad but true that survival lessons are another thing often written in blood.
Tragic story. I have watched all his videos in RUclips and I noticed that in all of them he just used lighter to start fire. A lighter in negative temperatures will not work unless you warm it up. He had reasonable skils to process wood to light a fire, but maybe he struggled with the ignition method he had (lighter) in freezing temperature. Always carry lighter, matchs and ferrod!!!! Greetings from the woods in Sweden