Why These Motifs Make Us Cry [Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days]

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
  • Yoko Shimomura has so many hidden details in her work. Here's a close look at just a few of them!
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    The Kingdom Hearts soundtracks were composed by Yoko Shimomura. Kingdom Hearts is owned by Square Enix and Disney.
    Other music featured, in order:
    "At Dusk, I Will Think of You..." KH 1.5 ReMIX OST
    "Kairi I" KH 1.5 ReMIX OST
    "Against All Odds" Genshin Impact OST (City of Winds and Idylls)
    "Missing You" KH 2.5 ReMIX OST
    0:00 What if he liked a girl
    1:01 Block-Based Composition
    3:13 Xion's Motif
    5:03 Music theory onslaught
    7:56 Kairi's Motif
    9:45 The Power of Leitmotifs
    14:05 PATRONS!!!!!
    14:18 Vector to the Heavens
    17:54 la Tristesse de Xion
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Комментарии • 592

  • @ImmaniGregory
    @ImmaniGregory 10 месяцев назад +507

    “We’ll call it BB-- We’ll call it block based composition” I burst out laughing good lord 😂

    • @StarforceSF
      @StarforceSF 9 месяцев назад +19

      He realy dodged a nuke on that one xDDD

    • @Fella-hf3nc
      @Fella-hf3nc 9 месяцев назад +7

      That was too good lmao

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 9 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t get it

    • @rubensandwich8516
      @rubensandwich8516 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@drdca8263hahahaha.

    • @miciso666
      @miciso666 9 месяцев назад

      @@drdca8263 u will in a few years :D

  • @torumakalig5692
    @torumakalig5692 10 месяцев назад +773

    I very explicitly remember the first time a video game made me cry was the final xion scene when I was maybe 12. I was on my DS on a car ride and it was hella awkward. Regardless that Ice Cream line do be hitting different with proper context

    • @DiZphunx
      @DiZphunx 10 месяцев назад +106

      Fr. I was disappointed when I heard people meme the shit outta that line.

    • @SayonaraJyuuni
      @SayonaraJyuuni 10 месяцев назад +32

      I was 18 and In college. Right before I went to class at alike 8 in the morning. I seen the video for the first time and I was sad all day. This was in 2009.

    • @theemeraldiris6702
      @theemeraldiris6702 10 месяцев назад +18

      @@DiZphunxright? I go feral when people make fun of that scene

    • @XRaxVxeNX
      @XRaxVxeNX 10 месяцев назад +6

      I has pretty much the exact same experience 😅

    • @fearnach
      @fearnach 10 месяцев назад +8

      Same here! I think I was 13 or 14 at the time, but I'm not quite sure anymore - what I remember most clearly is that it was very late at night, and I had to try and force myself to be quiet as to not wake up my family.

  • @zeldon567mixtape3
    @zeldon567mixtape3 10 месяцев назад +645

    "It's alright. You can stop now. Xion." Instantly made me teary eyed, despite knowing it was coming. Such a powerful moment.
    Names have power. Take away someone's name, their identity, their reputation, and you take away them as a person. Acknowledging Xion by name gave her the power to overcome and fight back.

    • @Mark-nh7ng
      @Mark-nh7ng 10 месяцев назад +9

      it gets me every time too

    • @BenjaminRodriguezReyes
      @BenjaminRodriguezReyes 10 месяцев назад +31

      That line is in Jesse McCartney's voice too instead of Haley Joel Osment, that's why it gets me every time. The voice acting there is another huge part of what gives that scene its emotional weight.

    • @Blackfire_2022
      @Blackfire_2022 10 месяцев назад +2

      It got me too fam

    • @DkKombo
      @DkKombo 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@BenjaminRodriguezReyes
      Most people don't get it on their first watch, which kinda proves there's a tonal similarity in that anime boi voice, but also because the tone is so similar at that point in the scene lol.

    • @theemeraldiris6702
      @theemeraldiris6702 10 месяцев назад

      I got chills and teary eyed as well, say what you will about kingdom hearts 3 but that ending section was peak

  • @DualFelines
    @DualFelines 9 месяцев назад +232

    "Roxas showed her how to feel, and to care, and they both paid the price." is so heart-crushing, well put.

  • @VaultLink
    @VaultLink 9 месяцев назад +87

    There's something that's never brought up in the video but it's something I've never been able to stop thinking of ever since I first noticed it.
    The first half of the block denoted in red is actually used in another song in Days, it's the glockenspiel of "At Dusk, I Will Think of You" and it goes for THE ENTIRETY of the song.
    If you take this part as being from "Dusk" and not "Xion" (because of how ever present it is) it's like her theme is calling back to those afternoons sitting on the clocktower with Axel and Roxas, a testament to why she Is.
    And if you take the alternative, it's like even when she's gone she's always there with Roxas on the tower. At dusk, I will think of you.

  • @shadowbrain4814
    @shadowbrain4814 9 месяцев назад +67

    The biggest cruelty of this piece, I think, is how difficult it is for me to remember it, despite loving it so much. I can remember Sora's theme, I can remember Roxas' theme, but I can't remember how Xion's theme goes without outside help, yet every time I remember it, I cry as though I'm hearing it for the first time. There's a strange, beautiful, sad sense of irony to that, I think.

    • @ZjedzGoffra
      @ZjedzGoffra 6 месяцев назад +8

      Might be because it's sad but not alerting. Human brain usually tries to forget or repress sad memories that serve no warning purpose for eventual future situations. It also doesn't evoke feelings of familiarity. Xion's fate was unavoidable, she was out of place and the track represents that well.

    • @johanseth3277
      @johanseth3277 2 месяца назад +1

      Cause she doesn't exist
      Guess Nomura did really made a well written character
      Cause she is forgotten

  • @Xaveze
    @Xaveze 10 месяцев назад +238

    And then in the KH3 version of Vector to the Heavens there is percussion and the tone of the song shifts as a result, showing just how much of a difference it made.

    • @tsunderecat413
      @tsunderecat413 10 месяцев назад +67

      i'd like to think the kh3 version-with its full orchestra, wild percussion, swing rhythm, electric guitar, and synths-represents xion no longer holding back. after all, it is called the "limitcut episode" for a reason. because the xion we fight is merely data, there are no emotional stakes. it's just an intense battle against a powerful keyblade wielder.

    • @jembozaba4864
      @jembozaba4864 10 месяцев назад +30

      @@tsunderecat413Then in the main game, you get Vector to the Heaven cross with Roxas’s theme, to make something truly beautiful and epic

    • @tsunderecat413
      @tsunderecat413 10 месяцев назад +21

      @@jembozaba4864 ah yes, "hearts as one." a fantastic arrangement, if i do say so myself.

    • @Dat_DekuBoi
      @Dat_DekuBoi 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@tsunderecat413 I find it much more happier, as the sadness that lasted 10 years is replaced with joy since Roxas, Axel and Xion have all reunited. I once used it as a victory track

    • @jembozaba4864
      @jembozaba4864 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@tsunderecat413So do I. The perfect theme for you to just sit back and watch Roxas and Xion go to town on Saix.

  • @creepykels
    @creepykels 10 месяцев назад +326

    What makes Shimomura's work, and honestly just music in general, so incredible to me is that you can understand the meaning and emotion in the music without understanding music theory. You can *feel* it. And understanding the musical theory behind a piece doesn't ruin the magic at all it just makes you appreciate the intent and composer's artistry even more. You explain music theory better than any other music theory content creator I've watched, and you inject so much emotion in the explanation itself that it really makes watching you break down these pieces of music such a joy to watch!

    • @raeoverhere923
      @raeoverhere923 10 месяцев назад +18

      Shimomura is a master of musical expression, imo. Every time I play a game she's composed for, I get so incredibly attached to the world, story, and characters, and the music has a lot to do with that. The first game I played with her music was Legend of Mana, and tracks like Places of Soul and City of Flickering Destruction still bring out a ton of emotions in me; I didn't even know she composed for KH until maybe after KH2 when I started watching the credits, but now I can hear her distinct musical touch in soundtracks. If you want to hear more of her work, her "Best of" albums are "Drammatica" and "memoria!".

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +22

      Thank you so much! It made me smile to read this because that's one of the main things I want to convey with each video - music theory just gives us a convoluted, imperfect vocabulary for stuff we mostly already know.

    • @caldw615
      @caldw615 10 месяцев назад +5

      I notice this in a lot of video game music that I have grown to love over the years. They just...make you feel something.
      Kingdom Hearts is great for this. Dearly Beloved is an amazing sample of this. You hear it for the first time on bootup of each KH game and...something just clicks deep down.
      If the creator of this video happens to see this I would LOVE a deep dive on Dearly Beloved from each KH game.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +6

      @@caldw615 Hi! While I do think that topic is worthy and interesting, I'm worried it would be a very repetitive video, and the last thing I want is to make people tired of hearing Dearly Beloved. Still, I'm writing it down!

    • @caldw615
      @caldw615 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@JonathanBarouch Oh I get that but I do feel it could be interesting, maybe even as a more general "theme of the game" since the feel of Dearly Beloved tends to pair with other tracks in each game that fit the overall vibe. KH1 is a lot more upbeat like a lot of the tracks such as the Destiny Island and Traverse Town's combat theme. Gives a sense of adventure. Where as KH2's is slower to fit the more sombre tone of the inclusion of Nobodies, The Organisation etc, likely reflective of Sora growing up a little too.

  • @hannahhorst4059
    @hannahhorst4059 10 месяцев назад +129

    I still remember that I cried so bitterly over this fight and the end of the game that my mom asked me if something happened and if I'm alright, cause I looked like someone died

    • @amysgrrl
      @amysgrrl 10 месяцев назад +16

      I asked the same thing when Jonathan and his sister ended this game. I didn’t understand why a video game could evoke such strong emotions but I get it now. -Jonathan’s mom

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 месяцев назад +4

      You know they did a great job when they can make someone cry that hard. I'm so sad I missed out on experiencing this because I didn't finish 358/2 Days.

    • @pascalsimioli6777
      @pascalsimioli6777 6 месяцев назад

      No, what you know is that people cried and that's it. I didn't cry, does it mean they did a bad job then? Don't be silly, your or my emotional response has no bearing on the quality of this game which frankly was awful.

    • @awilenbernkastel1439
      @awilenbernkastel1439 6 месяцев назад

      @@amysgrrl Your heart be blessed for digging deeper into your children's video games.

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@pascalsimioli6777Nobody said anything about the quality of the game. You are getting the wrong idea and making this into something much bigger than it is sir.

  • @TheGamersShade
    @TheGamersShade 9 месяцев назад +27

    Xion, the girl who never was, who just wanted friends. She is honestly my favourite character, not just in kingdom hearts, but period.

  • @SAPProd
    @SAPProd 10 месяцев назад +96

    I was an adult when the very first Kingdom Hearts game was released. I remember the first time playing it and the game made me feel like a kid, evoking so many feelings and memories watching these Disney properties and playing the Final Fantasy games growing up. I definitely know what you mean about the songs evoking such childhood wonder and emotions. I always laugh when people say they grew up with the series; the rare times I feel old.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +7

      That's awesome! I hear from a lot of people who pick up KH as adults that it doesn't do anything for them, and frankly I get it. I'm glad that it was still able to work as a time capsule for you, that rocks.

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 месяцев назад +2

      I grew up with the series and was a kid, and I feel old when I think about how old the series is now!

  • @cameraboy9640
    @cameraboy9640 9 месяцев назад +25

    “Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all” WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME 😭😭😭

  • @Mariodash23
    @Mariodash23 6 месяцев назад +4

    I was crying like a baby when I heard Xion's theme in KH3, followed by seeing the Sea Salt Trio reuniting together, I just bawled out like crazy for about 6 minutes. 358/2 Days was my first KH game (not a good first game, I know), and I grew so close to Roxas, Axel, and Xion despite my annoyances with the game. I saw myself in all of them and the rest of O13, and I genuinely didn't want to fight Xion in the fight against her.
    I get why people think Kingdom Hearts is cringe. It can be dumb, inconsistent, and all around confusing. But beneath all of that, it's a genuinely emotional series that doesn't hold back when it's about to throw hands at your heart. So thank you, Jon. Thanks for helping me keep this series, and especially Xion, memorized.

  • @jembozaba4864
    @jembozaba4864 10 месяцев назад +22

    She may not have supposed to exist, but as she’s easily my character in my favourite series of all time, I’m really glad she does. Her reunion in KH 3 and Data Boss fight are just the Cherry on top of the delicious cake that is Xion.

  • @elena8953
    @elena8953 10 месяцев назад +102

    Jonathan, this one made me tear up. Your editing here was phenomenal, and you made the whole thing easy to follow. What a wonderful work. This song has always been incredibly important to me, and looking at it through this analysis brought it even closer to my heart.
    I can't believe you mentioned Against all odds at 8:58. I heard it so many times and I KNEW that those progressions were familiar, but I could never pinpoint why! In some way I too was emotionally linked to Xion, but ultimately forgot her, just like Roxas.
    Vector to the heavens has always been a slap to my face. You're so right in saying it makes us reluctant to approach the fight, because whenever I got to that point in game it always felt like I was punching with my right fist, then punching myself with the left for daring to do such a thing to our best, most precious friend in game. It was a slow, painful fight, with an overwhelming music surrounding us screaming at us "Is this what you want to do? Do you *really* want to go on, and attack and kill your best friend?"
    She was unrecognisable and distorted, but undeniably it was still *her*. It all happens so fast, while you remember all the beautiful times you spent together in that location. I think that's still one of the most impactful scenes I played in games as a whole.
    The way you explained leitmotifs was incredible too: I never before realized that they weren't linked to notes but to intervals, and that makes them beautifully versatile in musical composition. It's always there, recognisable and familiar, even when used in different contexts. In my musical ignorance I always pictured leitmotifs as a smooth, short dance move. The piece is a choreography, it rises and lowers in tension and pathos, but you can alway slide in a more familiar move to link everything together
    Also, I had never seen that KH3 scene before! Thanks for the free feels :)
    Overall I am SO happy to see new works from you. You've been going for a year strong, and I'm really proud of how your content has organically evolved in its presentation the more you explored it. Every new video from yours is unique, perfectly tailored for the track you want to tackle, and that grants special insights in the most meaningful tassels that build the music we all cherish and love. Thank you so, so much for your hard work, every video of your truly helps us appreciate the tracks most close to us even more :)

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +1

      I read this before, but now I'll give it a proper response! I know you were looking forward to this one and so I'm happy it lived up to your expectations. I wish I had played Days when it came out. I think it would have messed me up. But like, in a fun way.
      If I could change one thing about the way people talk about music, it would be that intervals should be common knowledge instead of notes! Notes matter for musicians, scholars, and folks who like this kind of content, but not casual listeners. I can't wait to make even more stuff!

  • @avocadoadmiral6142
    @avocadoadmiral6142 9 месяцев назад +9

    The VA and voicle lines during the boss fight make the music even better

  • @himura-miki
    @himura-miki 9 месяцев назад +44

    It feels like a failure -- Sora's failure, Roxas's failure, Axel's failure, my failure -- that her existence turned out that way. 358/2 Days doesn't get enough love, but the story was definitely worth playing, for better or worse. I both love and hate whenever Xion gets mentioned or shown off in any way... Mostly because it worked. That final fight? Oh, that caused so much pain, and it WAS very much a "why did it have to turn out this way" situation. Xion and Xion's music make me feel so much sadness.

    • @Liex59
      @Liex59 Месяц назад +4

      This honestly sums up why I didn't like Sora pre DDD and why the scene with Roxas meant so much to me. Sora just didn't know the consequences of his own actions. He didn't know that he was causing all of that pain just by existing. And when he finds out, he gets mad, for Roxas. It's a really respectable scene. He throws it in Xemnas and Xigbar's face. He's willing to carry the weight his Other can't anymore and it was such a powerful moment for me.

  • @dannytran5064
    @dannytran5064 9 месяцев назад +9

    Just wanted to say that using the title of the Xion’s theme as a quick gag at the beginning of the video and then hitting us at the end with the emotional punch of what the theme actually means is actually genius scriptwriting

  • @monoverantus
    @monoverantus 10 месяцев назад +71

    Excellent, just excellent. The jokes, the clear visuals, the pathos. Even disregarding how invested I am in the topic (Vector to the Heavens is one of my favorite pieces to play), you make engaging soundtrack analysis seem so effortless.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +1

      That's wonderful to hear because it's n Ot

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 месяцев назад

      @@JonathanBarouch I feel like that's a music reference that I don't understand. I second what monoverantus said. I wish I could play an instrument, but alas I can't multitask at all, and my memory has gotten real bad on top of that.

  • @IllyasArt
    @IllyasArt 10 месяцев назад +31

    I grew up with Kingdom Hearts, Xion's theme still makes me pretty sad, but not enough to cry like the Nier soundtracks. I never knew the full name of Xion's theme, but hearing it literally made me break down in tears, even knowing what happens in KH3. Please keep making videos! Basically every video you've released has made me cry. Crying isn't bad, in fact, it is actually good for your health to cry every once in a while.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +2

      I frikkin LOVE crying

    • @IllyasArt
      @IllyasArt 10 месяцев назад

      @@JonathanBarouch Same! I replay Nier Replicant and Automata every few months just so they can destroy me all over again. :D

    • @lloron6
      @lloron6 9 месяцев назад +1

      Me too! I never knew the actual name of the soundtrack. And sure didn't understand the french name mentioned at the beginning of the video.
      So when the names is said st the end of the video.... i couldn't stop the tear falling from my eye.

    • @GuardianAngelEatos
      @GuardianAngelEatos 9 месяцев назад

      Indeed. Cying is natural and it's good to cry to get those emotions out. Let this be a lesson to people that crying is okay and there's nothing wrong with it. That's a powerful message in the Inside Out movie.

    • @awilenbernkastel1439
      @awilenbernkastel1439 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@IllyasArt I can't play NieR: Automata anymore. I've been through my first playthrough, I've thoroughly researched the underlying messages and lessons, and I can't bring myself to repeat "the never-ending cycle of life and death" again. I love NieR: Automata to bits. I sing its praises. I recommend it to every person I can. No hyperbole here, it became the catalyst to bring me out of depression. But I can't play it again. I just want those fictional characters to be left alone. They've been through so, so much. They don't deserve anything, they don't exist, I know that, yet, I want them to be happy on their own, in our collective imagination of them. It hurts me emotionally hitting the "New game" menu option. Two years later, hearing "Weight of the World" brings a swelling in my throat, tears ready to flow should I try following along the lyrics. Not because of the song itself, but what it's been tied to, this feeling that I'm not alone, we're all here suffering and we can make it easier on ourselves, together, and all it takes is reaching a hand. I've reached people, and I take a level of pride in believing I have tilted the scales of a few people against deciding to take their own lives and having given themselves another chance. I'm not sure I did, the fact they are still alive and kicking gets me to believe I did.
      Truly, crystalizing the idea that "A future is not given to you, it is something you must take for yourself" has been a salvation on my life, and I try to take it to as many people as possible. I can't thank Yoko Taro and his team and partners enough, ever.

  • @theonetruespur5896
    @theonetruespur5896 6 месяцев назад +4

    Yoko Shimomura is a genius. This theme always makes me tear up.

  • @samapak7
    @samapak7 6 месяцев назад +3

    Kingdom Hearts 3 is the first and only game to make me cry. When Xion and Roxas returned.. it was perfect. I was in my college dorm crying like a baby. Glad my roommate wasn't home.

  • @ISAWdano
    @ISAWdano 10 месяцев назад +35

    The editing on this video is stellar!!
    I'm able to follow your explanation perfectly despite not knowing how to read music myself!
    Breaking down Xion's theme is great as well because so many people focus exclusively on primary characters.
    Please keep doing this so long as you enjoy it!

  • @WayToDawn72
    @WayToDawn72 10 месяцев назад +15

    I've lost count the number of times I've listened to Musique and Vector but watching this felt like I was hearing again for the first time. And I'm not too proud to admit I teared up multiple times watching this

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +1

      That's always my goal! Thrilled to hear it worked for you :)

  • @Laterose15
    @Laterose15 10 месяцев назад +12

    One of my favorite themes in 358/2 Days (aside from Roxas' and Xion's themes) is its version of Dearly Beloved. Simply by fading the piano to the background and bringing forward the melancholic strings, Shimomura was able to repurpose a very familiar theme into something wistful, nostalgic, and sad.
    Great job on this video, I loved every minute!

    • @imlegos2153
      @imlegos2153 7 дней назад

      Days' Dearly Beloved is great because it essentially flips what part of the song stands out. Which makes a lot of sense for the game where you're essentially playing the 'bad guy side'

  • @ATR1830
    @ATR1830 9 месяцев назад +14

    Your scriptwriting is awesome. You rule of three’d us with the title of Xion’s theme and genuinely made me cry. That was excellent setup and payoff

  • @SorcerorNobody
    @SorcerorNobody 9 месяцев назад +9

    2:46 Why did it only take two notes on the bells for my eyes to start moistening up GOD DAMMIT SHIMOMURA
    4:53 I DID NOT NEED WET EYES TODAY
    12:00 NO THAT'S IT I'M GONE GOODBYE
    Excellent analysis. Xion's theme has always been one of my favourite tracks in all of KH and now I have a better understanding of exactly why it's so good.
    I also love the point about overusing motifs as it's a real beef I have with Final Fantasy X, where it feels like half the soundtrack is just arrangements of Zanarkand and Suteki da ne. I know it's actually not quite that much of the soundtrack, but the fact that it _feels_ like it is always struck me as not a great sign.

  • @icefiredragon94
    @icefiredragon94 10 месяцев назад +32

    So glad someone analyzed this great theme, and the relation it has to other themes that accompany it! It gives even more depth to her character than before

  • @natanaelgustafsson8188
    @natanaelgustafsson8188 10 месяцев назад +18

    You just put the feelings i held for this song into word i could never truly express.
    Thank you

  • @FFF12321
    @FFF12321 10 месяцев назад +10

    This and Vector to teh Heavens are my favorite tracks in KH canon. There are songs that go harder where I'm 99% certain multiple violins and pianos were burned to ash by the sheer intensity, but these songs have the right quality to draw out that feeling of "I don't want to do this, but I must." It encapsulates the core of KH from Sora and Kairi and ties it in perfectly with who Xion is and i tjust keeps on paying dividends.
    Great video as always, I alwasy love hearing these kinds of technical breakdowns of some awesomely crafted music.

  • @MxLexi
    @MxLexi 9 месяцев назад +9

    I was literally searching for "why does vector to the heavens make me cry music theory analysis" months ago. Thank you for answering my prayers with exactly what I wanted

  • @0axis771
    @0axis771 9 месяцев назад +3

    358/2 Days was the first KH game I ever owned. I played 1 and 2 in parts because others owned the game and I could play with it, but 358/2 was the one I truly got to play. It was a simple game, and objectively not that great. Yet I adored the game so much and saw Roxas growing little by little alongside Xion.
    As the story went on, and the conspiracy was unraveling, where Xion began to understand her existence and role, I began to get scared, remembering that KH2 never had Xion be mentioned, which made me realize that Xion was doomed. Yet it was learning that Xion would not even be remembered that truly broke my heart.
    And every time I heard that theme, I felt so much sadness as the memories I had of that game would surface and I just hoped that Xion could one day come back, someway, somehow. I got my wish over a decade later.

  • @robTCGZ
    @robTCGZ 7 месяцев назад +2

    One nice little detail about the piano motif explained at the beginning of the video, is that the last compass also plays briefly in Aqua's boss fight in the realm on darkness from KH3.
    The way I see it is that that particular section of the motif represents being forgotten or the fear of being forgotten. The former is what happened to Xion, and the latter is what Aqua was feeling, which is why she fell to Darkness.

  • @TheFeriner
    @TheFeriner 5 месяцев назад +1

    “The fight is not the focus of this track”
    Hits the nail RIGHT on the head. It’s that feeling that you’re almost watching a scene in a movie, even though you’re literally fighting an end game boss. I love when games do this, and that statement is exactly how I want to describe it

  • @drantino
    @drantino 9 месяцев назад +2

    the way that some of the placements of xions motif repeating it self once or twice make it sound like "hey remember that? ya lets reminis about it"

  • @lloron6
    @lloron6 9 месяцев назад +2

    For me my 3 most favorite soundtracks are dearly beloved, xions theme and heavens vector.
    I played the games while i was a teenager almost a young adult, so it was not my "childhood" feelings which filled me while playing the games, but my feelings of "wishing for love" that were harder at the time.
    So i connected harder with the subtle love story told by the games, which ended up getting me hit harder by those 3 songs. For me they are the embodiment of love:
    - The Longing for Love (Dearly beloved)
    - The Sadness of Love (Xions Theme)
    - The Tragedy in Love (Heavens Vector)
    Thanks a lot for such great video.

  • @milesbarnes6777
    @milesbarnes6777 3 месяца назад +2

    To this day, I’m still in awe at how Vector to the Heavens manages to sound ASTOUNDING on the DS sound system. I’m not a music theory nor hardware specialist, but the slight - I’ll call it “crispness” - the forcefulness of the piano playing has on the DS’s sound system makes it sound slightly different than it does in 358’s “movie compilation”.
    I acknowledge that I do have slight hearing oddities because of eczema in my ears, but the way that Vector to the Heaven’s intensity nearly crackles on the DS makes it INSANELY emotional. It is pushing the sound chip’s encoding to the limit, which is PROFOUND in and of itself.

  • @MisterZebra42
    @MisterZebra42 10 месяцев назад +11

    This is the most accessible and understandable musical breakdown of this kind that I’ve ever seen. Well done!

  • @furlyghost
    @furlyghost 6 месяцев назад +1

    laughing within the first minute to damn near crying in the last minute. what a fuckin rollercoaster. this is top tier production bud

  • @Iesous27
    @Iesous27 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've never played kingdom hearts, but this song hits in all the feels. It's got that melancholic, notalgic and sorrowful power that makes you think back on life's decisions.

  • @golden_starlight_
    @golden_starlight_ 5 месяцев назад +2

    the way you were literally explaining how the song works to make you emotional, the way i was fully prepared to hear the cutscenes, the way i still teared up nonetheless

  • @randyfreeman2547
    @randyfreeman2547 9 месяцев назад +2

    Ive cried to this song before and thought I was over it, but the speech in the last 2 minutes of the video made me lose it.

  • @admentlore
    @admentlore 10 месяцев назад +7

    What a massive video. And one where you put so much work and effort into. Thank you so much, Jonathan. I know this took a lot out of you, but I appreciate your analysis and your education. I learned so much from what you have described for the Leitmotifs. I didn't realize how many were in the music and you highlighted just how masterful a composer Yoko Shimomura is. Your description of Dearly Beloved also made me cry, as it instantly brought back the memories from when I was a child and played my first PS2 game called Kingdom Hearts, and that was the first song I heard. Thank you for that moment.
    Also, I will note: Roxas's theme is also hinted at here. The first 2 notes from the violin part (perhaps one of the saddest parts of the song), are similar to the first two notes from the main sequence of Roxa's theme. The last second 2 notes are variations of the second 2 notes of Roxas's theme, making it Xion's. But the listener automatically hears Roxas in the theme. I always associated Xion's theme to be a combination of Roxas and Kairi.
    Thanks again for this, brother. You have touched our hearts-- Jonathan.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  10 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you so much!! The "oh my god" moment when I show all the places the motif shows up was based off my actual reaction as I was researching for the video. I never noticed either. It's so subtle even though it's EVERYWHERE.
      Ah, damn, you're right that violin solo IS a reference to Roxas! I wish I'd caught that. Oh well. I can't expect to catch every Shimomura Easter egg

    • @admentlore
      @admentlore 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@JonathanBarouch I know. She put so much thought, love, and care into her craft. She surprised in ways we never knew we could be surprised.

  • @antitoxine7012
    @antitoxine7012 9 месяцев назад +7

    I feel like xion's theme and Vector to the heavens are both pieces about memory itself, particulary in contrast to kairi's theme.
    Xion's theme is slow, crystaline, searching for itself and constantmy repeating it's motif. I've never knew what to think of it before learning the presence of kairi's theme inside both songs, which makes the whole point of xion's theme pieceing her history back, as much as she can. I also feel that it's why there is this feeling of emptiness, or rather the lack of an ending in this theme.
    Vector to the heavens feels like the culmination of this storm made of confusion. The theme tries to stay in the hands of xion, but it's too late. Kairi's motive begins to be the focus point, after which dearly beloved tries to complete itself but fails, sending xion back into the storm. Because at this point, the truth is written: xion has decided to confront her origin, and to seek what's right, even if leaving the storm means to stop existing. It's particularly true for vector's first iteration, which really feels like xion's theme going faster, harsher, maybe until it completly breaks, only leaving kairi's motive.
    I don't even know what to say. This battle's so sad the mysic itself brings this impression of us murdering someone because it has already been decided.

  • @Ezekku
    @Ezekku 7 дней назад +1

    I found this channel randomly listening to KH music, and Vector to the Heavens was always a strong and deep song close to me.
    Instant new suscriber, the passion for music mixed with GAMING music is amazing

  • @Kratos7560
    @Kratos7560 9 месяцев назад +2

    "Okay so let's check out where this shows up in the track- OH MY GOD!"
    Alright, that got more laughs out of me than it had any right to. Comedy aside, Vector to the heavens is a core memory of mine as my first KH game was 358/2 days and good lord, Xion's death inflicted a good scar on my emotions when I completed that game. So, when I saw that she returns in 3, it was an emotional roller coaster all over again. This game has a way of crushing your feelings into a fine dust, only to somehow mend them again ready for the next pulverizing crush. And the music in the series in itself is an odyssey in and of itself. Major props to the game developers who gave rise to this amazing series!

  • @yvalen3749
    @yvalen3749 9 месяцев назад +3

    I remember playing this game repeatedly to search for a different end, and everytime I reached her fight I ended crying cause it was so unfair that things had to end like this. This was my first Kingdom Hearts game, and I didn't know anything about Sora, Kairi or the others, but for me it was like playing form Roxas shoes from the very first moment

  • @Bayesic
    @Bayesic 9 месяцев назад +4

    Vector to the Heavens is hands down my favorite KH track ever

  • @jolestoli
    @jolestoli 10 месяцев назад +4

    This track still blows me away to this day honestly, beating days for the first time as a kid and hearing this theme (vector to heavens version) for the first time is one of the rare videogame childhood moments I distinctly remember where i was (my grandmas house standing in the dining room charging my ds because there wasn’t any other usable port at the time)

  • @zetten4109
    @zetten4109 4 месяца назад +2

    When I was younger and playing days.. when I got to the xion fight I didn’t want to win. That was the first and only game to make me feel that way.

  • @SuperLink9
    @SuperLink9 9 месяцев назад +2

    wonderful video. Vector to the Heavens is one of the few pieces of music in all of media that makes me cry almost every time I hear it. the first time I heard it I was a blubbering mess, and I barely cried back then. its power over my emotions is like, profound. I've also learned that it has that power even with people who are unfamiliar with the context.. it's just an incredible piece of music I think.

  • @duncandonuts9
    @duncandonuts9 9 месяцев назад +2

    I've also thought I recognized a bit of Twilight Town's music in her songs, since they all spend so much time there together too

  • @MikeKennedyNFL
    @MikeKennedyNFL 10 месяцев назад +3

    I could listen to you talking about KH music for hours upon hours upon hours

  • @jonathanrobinson198
    @jonathanrobinson198 9 месяцев назад +5

    One of my favorite tracks in KH3 is the one where you hear the the very triumphant and warlike motifs of Roxas, Xion, and Sora together.

    • @regyssilva161
      @regyssilva161 9 месяцев назад

      Hearts as One, in the battle against Saix

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 9 месяцев назад +2

    The definitive 358/2 Days is on the Nintendo DS. The releases of it are just "movies" that lose most emotional weight and staying power than playing and experiencing Roxas and Xion's story.
    Also, aside from Aqua, Xion is of the most tragic characters in Kingdom Hearts. Not only does she fade back into Sora, she fades from everyone's memory, excluding Roxas and Riku who try in vain to keep remembering Xion. The ending on the DS really drives it home. Roxas, Axel, and Xion are fooling around and conversing at the clock tower having fun. However, Xion fades away as if she was never there like seeing a memory being rewritten before your eyes.

  • @Axel-wo6qu
    @Axel-wo6qu 9 месяцев назад +3

    I like watching you describe KH music.

  • @VGInterviews
    @VGInterviews Месяц назад +2

    I would love to hear your thoughts about how KH3 managed to merge Roxas' (sad theme) with Xion's theme (sad theme) and completely turned them into one of the most triumphant sounding songs in the series
    Also how the Data battle turned Xions theme into a heavy action rock version

  • @crystalpeaches7825
    @crystalpeaches7825 9 месяцев назад +3

    even now the scene where roxas calls out xions name still makes me cry HAHA

  • @regyssilva161
    @regyssilva161 9 месяцев назад +2

    Being forgotten is worse than death itself. Musique pour la tristesse/Vector to the Heavens hurts deep 😢

  • @ferruxx
    @ferruxx 9 месяцев назад +1

    Surprised it only took me until 5:50 to start crying. Amazing analysis of this incredible piece 🩵

  • @awilenbernkastel1439
    @awilenbernkastel1439 6 месяцев назад

    I never picked up on those subtleties, but I felt them all the same. So much attention to detail, details that will go overlooked yet subconsciously root themselves and bring forth emotions, and only through deeper knowledge can they be brought to consciousness and show the greatness of their composers, tugging at our strings, true Poets of the Heart. Truly, thank you so, so much.
    I am French. English isn't my first, natural language. I am not sure the words I write are the correct ones to convey my meanings. Communication is hard, way too many ways to be misunderstood. And those composers communicate at a level of skill worthy of admiration.

  • @JonnZth
    @JonnZth 8 месяцев назад +1

    Pain. Just... pain
    I always loved Xion as a character, even if she didn't have nearly as much plot relevance as I wish she did.
    The whole idea behind the character is just straight up depressing, this gets even more on your face when you notice how happy they seem to be... before everything goes downhill.
    This song, more specifically Vector, was the first song I honestly wanted to learn to play on the piano, mostly because its beautiful. But now that I think about it, there might've been to also serve as a sort of tribute, to remember she, who had her whole life start and end in less than an year... and that couldn't even leave behind memories for those close to her.
    I'm happy with how things ended. She can indeed stop now, and rest

  • @HuyNguyen-fq2pe
    @HuyNguyen-fq2pe 6 месяцев назад

    As someone who played "Vector to the Heavens" when i was in middle school- i really appreciate this video essay breaking it down

  • @RavenKorr
    @RavenKorr 17 дней назад

    I cannot count the amount of times I’ve listened to this and the 13th struggle video, I will PAY you to make another 😭

  • @Noname-lx2gq
    @Noname-lx2gq 9 месяцев назад +1

    This video came up in my feed and I had to click it. I really love how you are able to break down such technical terms in layman terms. It was something I could understand not ever knowing music theory and really made me appreciate the music on a deeper level in how well you explain it so thank you. Lastly, I’d love to see a video on why Roxas and Aqua’s theme are so similar yet different.

    • @JonathanBarouch
      @JonathanBarouch  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm actually not familiar with Aqua's theme, but I definitely plan to talk about Roxas's. I'll take a closer listen!

  • @alexandercintron7772
    @alexandercintron7772 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanku for this vid man, really made my day. My first ever kh game was days and i was in a very down mood around that time. I love the sea salt trio to death and roxas as much as the next guy, but i felt this complete connection with Xion especifically.
    Her journey and emmotions, how she was relevant at the start and end but completely absent in the middle parts of the story, i felt just like her. Always wanting to find my own Roxas to feel like i deserve to feel and exist, even though deep down you just feel like you dont belong anywere because you werent even ment to be someone in the first place.
    Im just glad my girl gets some appretiation every once in a while, ao truly, thanku 🥰🥰

  • @Watcher-ok1ex
    @Watcher-ok1ex 10 месяцев назад +4

    Just a perfect video as always. I didn't listen to these tracks in years but, damn, it's so sad the story of Xion and it's even more painfull with the impact of your words about. Awesome job

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 9 месяцев назад +2

    The scene where Xion dies and Roxas is unable to comprehend why this has to happen was one of the few scenes in a game to make me tear up. I was in my late teens.

  • @sakurinorth8238
    @sakurinorth8238 9 месяцев назад

    One thing I love about dearly beloved is that whenever I hear it I feel not necessarily nostalgia but more like reminiscence at the end of a journey. A glimpse at every hardship, victory, bond, and climax that led to its point. And the fact that dearly beloved pops up in vector to the heavens at the end of the game really solidifies that for me. Dearly beloved is always what I hear at the beginning but when I finish the game when I return to the title screen and I hear it it takes me back.
    Then Kingdom hearts 3 however dearly beloved holds a little bit of a different feel to it when you first listen to it and what I love about it is that I feel like it kind of foreshadows what's coming next. Dearly beloved sounds like a much more uplifting tune because you the idea of things coming together and being put into place and towards the end of the loop that is really beloved where you hear that piano I play notes rapidly end up weird it gives me a sense of moving forward, pressing onward, rushing to what comes next to see what awaits. And Kingdom hearts 3 certainly does leave us there doesn't it. Leaving us desiring to rush on to what happens next on the journey.

  • @kupotenshi
    @kupotenshi 7 месяцев назад

    Today I learned what a motif is. It's really interesting how 4 notes is all you need to invoke the feeling of a character. Music is so powerful. Thanks for this video!

  • @Zephyros500
    @Zephyros500 7 месяцев назад

    I've watched a lot of musical theory videos with this strange sense of wonder, and never been able to understand or articulate why until you explained it here: it's breaking down into technical almost-jargon why we feel what we feel, reducing something intuitively understood and felt into building blocks, and I find it utterly fascinating.
    The emotion of this song, built to be such a gut punch with such exquisite precision, and your beautiful explanation that "we know this intuitively; we feel it, but this is why we do so mechanically" has finally laid out, explicitly, why I have been and continue to be so enamored by musical theory videos like this.
    As a deeply emotional person who still has not recovered from what this game did to me, thank you for explanations. Amazing content, I am an instant fan.
    I want to also share the reason why I thought Xion's Theme was sad, way back when I first played it: I thought it was meant to illicit the sounds of a music box, a lullaby you play to a sleeping child. And considering Xion was barely "a year" old, playing a lullaby for her death felt so tragically poignant. We play lullabies to lull a fresh life to sleep, to bring them to tomorrow; here, decidedly and almost cruelly so, it was not. Because as the title says, her days were numbered from the moment she was created.

  • @korohacker
    @korohacker 8 месяцев назад +1

    The bell motif never fails to make me cry when hearing it, even when alone and in an investigative mode. Something about the falling and fragmented melody, and Xion's motif 2-3-2-5 representating a small rise in hope only to fall way down in despair, resonated strongly with how I perceive hopelessness and wistfulness. It's really painful to listen sometimes, and yet I love to reminded of this pain to make me feel human

  • @belot217
    @belot217 10 месяцев назад +1

    Gah, the "Memoria!" concert version has yet to be topped for a videogame track adaptation.

  • @ChampionAnalysis
    @ChampionAnalysis 8 месяцев назад

    I always new this was a masterpiece. Just didn't realize the extent of the expertise in it

  • @raulperez375
    @raulperez375 9 месяцев назад

    Well time to binge listen to Kingdom Hearts music and sob on the floor for two hours straight you did this

  • @protoman4622
    @protoman4622 3 месяца назад

    The complexity of music in kh shows how much the devs love the game and series including its lore and story and I love it.

  • @C_Traveler
    @C_Traveler 9 месяцев назад +2

    15:12 damn, the piano made my cold heart jump and remembered those feels I had when I played 358/2. The only game to ever made me shed a tear.

  • @yeqiqi
    @yeqiqi 10 месяцев назад +1

    WAKE UP BABE THERES A NEW JONATHAN BAROUCH VIDEO!!
    in all seriousness though, this is absolutely gorgeously made as always. keep up the amazing work man, you just made my day

  • @shiki899
    @shiki899 3 месяца назад +1

    I keep coming back to this video. I love it so much. You did a wonderful job and leitmotifs being explained to me like this is honestly so fun. Keep up the great work.

  • @dunno6161
    @dunno6161 9 месяцев назад

    12:34 whole scene hits every single time because of that damn motif

  • @Eric_Black134
    @Eric_Black134 10 месяцев назад +1

    I never really paid attention to the music of this series before... My gosh this game series has such a beautiful soundtrack...

  • @LilGabri94
    @LilGabri94 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love when shimomura does these little call backs. She does it in roxas's kh3 theme. You can here a call back to xions theme and even soras theme. Soras theme is what suprised me. It being so upbeat but shimomura still being able to use it and in a soft manner. The goat fr.

  • @TheExcelsia
    @TheExcelsia 9 месяцев назад

    This was beautiful. Thank you.

  • @throwmeaname
    @throwmeaname 9 месяцев назад +1

    Xion's theme never fails to make me cry. Great job breaking this down for us!

  • @abrahamschuman1692
    @abrahamschuman1692 10 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video all around! 👏

  • @DarthCasus
    @DarthCasus 10 месяцев назад

    Beautiful video, as always

  • @notproductiveproductions3504
    @notproductiveproductions3504 9 месяцев назад +3

    Ansem’s theme: grandiose, theatric and menacing
    Xemnas’ theme: sinister, threatening, melancholic
    Young Xehanort’s theme: the threat not of a monster but from a mere man
    Marluxia’s theme: beautiful, sophisticated, imposing
    Terra-Xehanort’s theme: a remake of the destati song, but better
    Vanitas’ theme: what if John Williams, Crush40, and Blind Guardian fused
    Xion’s theme: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @Toron90
    @Toron90 9 месяцев назад +1

    This was sweet great video!

  • @davontekh
    @davontekh 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love your content

  • @HunkyTurk
    @HunkyTurk 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent commentary, your analysis gave ne goosebumps!

  • @ketwin
    @ketwin 10 месяцев назад

    Man, what a wonderful video!

  • @kleinefuchsdavidson11
    @kleinefuchsdavidson11 7 месяцев назад

    I clicked on this video knowing that I would cry, and cry I did oml. 358/2 Days crushed me as a child and seeing the ending again crushed me again.

  • @CallMeSol_
    @CallMeSol_ 8 месяцев назад

    One of the best videos i’ve ever seen. Got emotional watching this one, keep up the great work.

  • @liamperkins5461
    @liamperkins5461 10 месяцев назад +5

    you deserve so much more attention for this work. Amazing video.

  • @DanFernandezPin
    @DanFernandezPin 9 месяцев назад

    I am not crying. 😭
    Thanks for this video, man,

  • @Rolelo_
    @Rolelo_ 2 месяца назад

    i really love the kingdom hearts soundtracks and you've done such a great job explaining the technicalities behind it all. Yoko Shimomura really is a genius!

  • @zaptrotix3
    @zaptrotix3 6 месяцев назад

    What an awesome video! You've translated the feeling of this music in the most beautiful way. Thank you!

  • @LunaP1
    @LunaP1 9 месяцев назад +1

    Xion’s story broke my heart 😢

  • @Stequal2
    @Stequal2 10 месяцев назад +1

    Still gives me goosebumps. And your explanation makes me love it even more❤

  • @Emarella
    @Emarella 9 месяцев назад

    I was so excited when I saw a new video by you in my feed, especially on one of my (many) favorite Kingdom Hearts characters! Love your work!