When Fire Emblem and Final Fantasy Clashed
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2023
- Today we crack open a time capsule and go over what has become one of my favorite interviews relating to Fire Emblem. a 90s era FE interview will of course be headlined by Shouzou Kaga, Fire Emblem's creator. But beside him for this sit down was none other than Hironobu Sakaguchi, the creator of Final Fantasy. But in my opinion, to really appreciate what this interview meant at the time, context for Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy, and 1994 is required.
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I guess I'm still not over my "Fire Emblem Crossovers" arc. This was a short video but I hope you enjoyed it regardless. Please leave a like and comment down below! What are your thoughts on FF6? FE3's success? Or this interview in general? Please subscribe and if you can afford it, consider becoming a channel member!
If there was ever a perfect game with top of the line story telling and lack of loose ends in my eyes, it would have to be FFVI. I laughed, I cried, I smiled, I resonated with the characters, etc, it was such a rollercoaster of a good time. Even upon a replay, I find myself having the same love for it (if not higher because replaying let's you see the set up of story plots). It will always be my favorite FF Game and Terra will always be my favorite female character from FF and gaming in general!
After the video, I feel I should definitely play FE3 at some point this year!
I always like it when game developers come out and admit about how much fun they're having with other games. Back then, they could only say so in interviews and such, but now with social media, I always get a nice warm feeling when when one game developer who like and respect complements another game dev who I also like and resect.
We could have got a game designed by kaga where teenagers invoke Fire Emblem Characters.
Nah bro. That’s too crazy, it would never work. And it’s not like they would try again years later, partnering with Atlus, and creating a somewhat underrated JRPG.
Engage
@Pesky they're referring to Tokyo mirage sessions...
@@xavierwashington7848 and I am referring to engage 😄
love how the first thing i thought was engage instead of tokyo mirage
It would be neat if Fire Emblem and Final Fantasy actually did cross paths and had a crossover game. It’s something I’ve been dreaming of for years now, and seeing this video in my subscriptions got me genuinely excited! Thanks for the amazing content, as always. 😊
I can see it now:
*Final Fire Fantasy tactics emblem*
@@lspuria8440 featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series & Knuckles
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa now with funky mode.
That would have been specially viable if Final Fantasy had a remarkable presence in Nintendo platforms around the mid to late 00s, when i believe the gaming culture became more warmed up for crazy crossovers (in great part thanks to SSBB). Also if Final Fantasy Tactics took off as a successful side franchise. But the Advance games failed to match the PS1 classic, leading to their tragic end.
It's very easy to imagine a modern style crossover on the 3ds years ago, as the FE game gets a FFT dlc, and a new FFT game gets a FE dlc.
@@lspuria8440 There's Triangle Strategy, a game inspired by FE and FFT.
Ahh, I found the image of the two just last year and it made so happy because FF is my favorite franchise (And Terra in the thumbnail with Marth makes me even more hype ahhh. FFVI is my favorite FF Game of all time and Terra is my favorite female character in the franchise as well).
These franchises NEED to officially crossover. Even if it's just Final Fantasy characters in Heroes. My two favorite franchises of all time and they fit so well together.
“real respects real” the interview
I've always been a huge FF fan, ever since I played FF1 on the NES, and FF6 is also my favorite FF game. I love the fact that that one photo of Kaga that everyone knows is the one from the interview with him and Sakaguchi.
I think the connection between the two goes even deeper than this interview, though. It was during the development of FF6 that Sakaguchi came up with the idea for Final Fantasy Tactics. Because of working on FF6 and then FF7 in quick succession, he was never able to give any of his time to it then, and it wouldn't be until Yasumi Matsuno, creator of Tactics Ogre, joined Square that it would finally be created. I don't know this for sure, but I imagine that Sakaguchi's enjoyment of Fire Emblem, and possibly FE3 specifically, was what inspired him to come up with the idea for Tactics.
Further, I wonder if Kaga's enjoyment of Final Fantasy was what inspired him to create a bigger and more grandiose story for FE4. I remember reading that he didn't even really want FE4 to be a strategy game, and wished it could be more of a party based RPG (which also explains some of the odd choices in game mechanics). Looking at the later work of these two men after this interview seems to indicate that they were equally inspired by one another.
FFT's base is absolutely Tactics Ogre. That was the definitive source of inspiration for the game. Matsuno got in the game, with the authority position he had, because of that tremendous achievement of creating TO for the Snes.
But it's also true that FE, being the first japanese strategy rpg, was the game that created everything, the whole culture of the srpg genre. While TO is a heavy deviation from FE's form, it's undeniable that it only exists because FE created and validated the srpg culture in Japan in first place.
TO belongs to a time when there were already a decent competition in the market: Shining Force, Langrisser and others imitating FE's form. Then there came games like Front Mission and TO on the Snes proposing a new form.
IMO FE3 being the best selling game in Japan explains a lot why a lot of people there are fond of Marth and FE1 as a whole in spite of the NES game not doing so well there.
As for Final Fantasy, while I liked 6 a lot, I personally had a bit more fun with 4 and 5, though mostly for nostalgia reasons.
Its also why in feh its always been Y!tiki over A!tiki. the fact that the former is more relevent in thier games aside. FE3 is just the most popular game and Y!tiki is one of the faces of the franchise.
I feel the OVA made to promote FE3 was also a huge plus in cementing Marth has the face of the franchise and if it wasn't for FE3 picking up such steam, it likely would have been Sigard (64) or Leif (Melee) who would have appeared in Smash and been the one to be the global face of the franchise
FE3 was truly the first breakthrough of the series. And the GBA game was just the 2nd breakthrough and the 1st international breakthrough. The 3DS game did it a 3rd time.
@@velvetbutterfly FE was born in the same model of other rpgs in the sense that sequels are normally not strict continuations (those are exceptions) and the cast is constantly rotating. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Megami Tensei, and others set that from the beginning. And FE2 followed that as well.
But then FE3 was a remake and such a breakthrough for the series that it boosted the FE3 cast and story above the others, making it look like Marth has a big place in the series, when in fact he only has 2 games. Also there's no implying that the other protagonists are bad or much worse. It's just that the FE3 breakthrough was well exploited by Nintendo in many multimedia forms. Anime, manga, card games, toys too if im not mistaken.
@@velvetbutterfly I'm not sure about that speculation about the face of the franchise. There are games that simply lack that, like Tales... there's no remarkably more prominent protagonist that works as the definitive face of the franchise. Official crossover material tends to put many protagonists together and with a little focus to Cless, Stahn, for being classics, and other popular protagonists. And if there's a recent popular game, that game's protagonist will be promoted and that's all.
Maybe that would have happened in FE as well. In part that's what happens with secondary FE chars in SSB: Roy in Melee because he was new, Ike in Brawl because he was new (FE10), and so on.
It's so fun and interesting to see these two developers enjoying each other's games. It's so interesting and wonderful to see them show their tastes in games
Sacred Stones was my first it was hard to understand being 9 to 11 and not being a strategical person but by the time I beat it i was a little better, then Blazing Sword was my next and it was muh harder but Sacred Stones had me on the basic understanding to ultimately adapt to it and become great at it, I also like how these 2 were friends and very cordial and not hated rivals trying to destroy the other or copy off 1 game like today how everything is either CoD or Fortnite or Overwatch, I'm hoping FF16 is good
Two of my favorite series. Loved this. Keep the good work, Ghast 👌🏻
I love that this video was very personal with the experiences that you had with both games and them having a connection made it feel all more genuine.
FFVI is a personal favorite and I've been really enjoying Mystery of the Emblem in my ongoing playthrough, so this was really cool to see.
Hearing all the stuff from this interview warms my heart and really gives a new light to that one picture of Kaga that we have with him and Sakaguchi. Seeing all the respect between these two guys and all the reach FE3 had in Japan is so nice to see especially for one of my favorite games in the series and obviously FF6 being a magnificent game in itself.
It makes sense that the so memed "only existing picture of Kaga" happens to be about this very special meeting
listening to this is putting a smile on my face right now
It's hard for me to pick a favorite Final Fantasy- do I go with 5 because of my obsession with character building, or 6 because of... Everything about 6? And then there's the part of me that is incredibly nostalgic about 1 because I grew up with my old man's copy of it on the NES...
Also, just gonna shout out to Bloodlines again, because it's relevant to this video's topic! Spearmen promote to Dragoons, which is awesome, and I can't get enough of the crit animation (which you see plenty of because Frankie is a beast) just being !Jump.
Interview is very wholesome to think about
Final fantasy tactics: I guess I don't exist
I honestly think that Tactics did take some inspiration from Fire Emblem, even though Sakaguchi, who is a Fire Emblem fan (as we know from this video), was in a producer role for that.
The 2 series that got me interested in JRPGs. Makes sense that they had a bit of a history connected to one another.
Everyone when a unit dies: *restarts map*
Kaga: "It's not a big problem"
Creator says we're all playing Fire Emblem wrong lol
Super interesting video Ghast, thanks!
My only Square Enix game is Triangle Strategy which was a gift from my brother last Christmas. I enjoyed it a lot, still working on getting the true ending. As far as Fire Emblem games goes, my favorite remains Fates since that is what got me into the franchise but I've played the others mainline games and can understand why FE3 would be a favorite amongst many fans of the community. A close second would be a tie between Awakening and Three Houses.
It seems you got it wrong. FE3 is a japanese phenomenon only. Westerners started from the GBA games or later ones, and they are already quite developed and optimized with quality of life features, that make it very hard to try and appreciate FE3. It doesnt even have weapon triangle yet, to give an idea. Also no supports, no conversations, no weapon rank, no special skills. For westerners FE3 hardly would get in the top 10 picks. Maybe the DS remake can be in many people's top 10s, and still not high even after adopting some quality of life features. This is a case when the asian and westerners have to be separated because the statement doesnt work for the community as a whole.
@@carlosaugusto9821 Translation patches exist.
Great video as always! 😃
Yoooo your the Fe8 solo run guy that has to reset the entire run to get the right S rank weapon.
Now that Dragon Quest was mentioned i desperately want to see DQ11's Luminary, FE3H's Professor, and FF15's Future king Noctis all together in a huge collab
Love the FF6 soundtrack representation! I always thought Terra's theme had an especially "Fire Emblem" feel to it
I remember playing fates and thinking cloud Zack and noctis would be freak great to have in this game
9:55 F@%# the Crystal Tower. 9/10 would play again.
FE x FF crossover when
My favorite spin-offs of Final Fantasy are the Tactics (specially FF Tactics Advance) 'cause those game have different things that I love of each franchise. I love the classes & spells system from FF but I prefer FE gameplay where your location is important for battlefield performance, so the Tactics game are a good fusion of both experiences.
That's really cool. Never knew those two met.
Wonder if they will ever do a crossover game. It would be cool to see characters from both clash.
I still want Fire Emblem getting a Dissidia treatment.
Engage is the closest we got to Fire Emblem Dissidia.
To me that already became aiming too low since crossovers became so wild recently. I wish for a Dissidia about all famous jrpgs. Like the SSB of jrpgs only, but different gameplay. It would be able to get the many jrpg chars missing in SSBU.
quick note there was a strategy game in the vain of fire emblem before fe1 called "legend of ethlead" which had a spirtiual turned canonical successor in the langrisser serise
Two of my FAVORITE seriesnof all time
Never finished VI, but I will one of these days. Maybe I'll pick up the Pixel Remaster...
I know FE was suffering stagnation, but it still really bugs me that New Mystery didn't get an official localization. It's as big and complex as Awakening but with more linear progression, has the Hardin ending vs. the true ending, it laid the template for a lot of Awakening (no wonder Awakening was set as a requel to Marth's saga), and is too recent for me to not feel guilty about pirating it. Old Mystery not getting mentioned because I both know less about it (heading over to watch the aforementioned review right after this) and because FE localizations weren't even a thing during 3's time.
P.S. Hello fellow Canadian!
Let's hope one day nintendo does a crossover game with fire emblem and xenoblade chronicles
776k copies is actually SICK
Final Fantasy 6 is still an absolute masterpiece. I was gifted this game for Christmas ages ago and at first I was turned off by it because I'd played Final Fantasy 9 to death and just saw it as an outdated game that can't possibly live up to the newer games. Thankfully a few minutes of playing through the opening in Narshe I realized "Hey! This is actually really fun!"
Fast Forward a few months after me playing this game to death and it became my 2nd favourite game in the series.
So when do you do a FF6 review then? I would like to know and see you do it!
Nice
FE3 is still in my top 5 favorite FE games so that says a lot about how good it is.
I love Fe3 too, but it's not my top 5. It was when fire emblem gained its footing, but there were a lot of improvements after it. I can't play book 2 without speed up, and I surprisingly love book 1.
The Snes or the Ds game?
@@carlosaugusto9821 The snes one. That's why I said FE3 and not FE12. The ds remake is just worse overall and I find it much less fun to play.
@@hanzou1238 True the DS version was so weird. It threw in the dumb avatar character and a lot of nonsense that took away from the games pick up and play.
If Fire Emblem and Final Fantasy did cross over, I imagine Edelgard would get along great with Yuna. Blitzball might get popular in Fodlan, too!
While Fire Emblem is the SRPG king still to this day I have nothing but praise for what SquareEnix contributed to the genre.. Most recently Triangle Strategy & Diofield Chronicle
I enjoy
I want crossover fire emblem and final fantasy
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Not a big fan of Fire Emblem (I like it enough) but if they made a crossover game (FE with some FF characters and enemies) it would be a day 1 buy for me.
Well, FFT existed. But unfortunately FFTA games werent enough to make it an actual successful side series. The ideal history development would have been FFTA end up as good as the original FFT and then making FFT a huge side series that was still active today. It was a tragic waste to kill it completely.
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Going tbh, ffvi felt peak for the series. Love the characters. Never played that FE tho.
Could you imagine if they made a final fantasy game in the style of fire emblem? Oh wait they did. It’s called Final Fantasy Tactics and is the best game of all time.
FFT, one of the best strategy rpgs of all time, that FE never managed to match. The only problem was the tragedy of Square giving up "FFT" as a franchise just because FFTA werent that hot. It was worth keep making new games and not give up so early. The 00s handheld market was very receptive to srpgs thanks to the breakthrough of the Gba FE games.
Bro really ended his video with “duces”…
I would have preferred almost any timeline but the one where kingdom hearts exists
Its a shame that on the two decades since this interview, Square has fallen so far.
I love fire emblem but it can never surpass final fantasy. Just...no
I wonder if there even exists a FE fanboy so miserable that he is capable of saying that FE is a superior franchise
@@carlosaugusto9821 Not that I’m aware of. However FE fanboys all hate each other depending on what their first games in their franchise was. As well as which game in their franchise they like.
Fire Emblem never could compete with Final Fantasy. Especially on the writing/story part. The best written FE games is FE4 and FE5 and those games are mediocre at best compared to Final Fantasy and other JRPG’s.