CaseStudyHouse 22 / Stahl House by Pierre Koenig. Complete overview: history and walkthrough.
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2023
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The Stahl House aka Case Study House 22 is an absolute masterpiece in modern architecture. With a minimalistic design, made of industrial materials and placed on a spectaculair location: the house was groundbreaking when it was designed in 1960. Because it was used in many photoshoots and movies, it became the ultimate Californian Poolhouse. Although very different than the designs by John Lautner, I was always fascinated by this house. I made a complete video showing the history, construction and walkthrough of the house.
I love this house. Stahl means steel in German, which is quite fitting, I think.
Yes, it indeed means Steel in German, so it fits very well. Great that you liked the video.
This is one of your best videos. In addition to the walk-through that you always offer, this video provides background on the first owners and the commission, as well as on the Case Study movement. Well done!
Thank you very much. I wanted to make the overview of the house as complete as possible: showing every detail in the walkthrough but also cover the history as complete as can be. So your reaction proofs to me that I succeeded in doing so.
Agreed! Jop, you're getting good at this. As a residential designer it's great to see the details in plan and picture. By showing us the site, designer, client, patron, budget, time period and fashion you've taught us a history of how and why these decisions are made and given us standards to enrich the craft and challenge our future works. Thank you.
You're welcome. Great to read all the positive comments. More complete videos like this will come up. Sorry for a late reaction but I saw your comment only today! :) @@hizacaine
I took a rare public tour of the CaseStudyHouse No. 22 ("Stahl House") on December 27, 2009 -- almost fourteen years ago! It was like a dream, and an architectural icon. Because of the Hollywood Hills neighborhood and limited street parking intermittent tours have to be limited to 12-15 people as I recall, and can't be publicly advertised. Every inch of space is limited so it's really for show only -- but what a show!
Yes it's wonderfull to visit the house, I did in 2015. The house is always smaller than it looks, but it's design is amazing.
Have you ever heard of "Jim Walter Homes" he was a famous builder in the 1960s and 1970s. My family has a home built by "Jim Walter Homes" It was built in 1960. The name of our house is "The Country Squire" I love the family home. It was built with a basement. One of these days when I win the lottery, I'm going to have that same house built for myself. A simple but a lovely house it is. Our home sits in Villa Rica, Georgia and is occupied by my mama and brother. -Melvin - Saturday, November 11, 2023 - Colorado Springs, Colorado - 1:30 PM
No I never heard of the Jim Walter Homes home. I shall Google him and check his design. Great that you have a Dream home. Everybody should have a Dream home to live in someday. Thanks for your comment.
Love the simplicity of the house. Especially the geometric design of the pool incorporated with L shape. ABSOLUTELY STUNNING!!!
Yes, the house is a masterpiece. Simplicity and geometry are the best words to design the quality of the design. Much different than the works of my favorite architect Lautner, but still I love it.
Thank you, Stahl House at last!
I always want to almost copy this house where I live, but first I have to find a suitable site, and gosh, Mr. Stahl built the retaining walls himself!
Yes, it took me a while before the video was finished. Copying this house is not so difficult: it was designed to be reproduced, but to find a location that creates the spectaculair effect that the house has is very difficult.
So happy to get this recommendation on my RUclips feed today! I live in Orange County, about an hour from this house. I've been wanting to arrange to do the tour, but kind of fell off the back burner. This inspires me to get back on it! Thank you!
You're welcome, more videos come up. You should definitely visit the house, no video can compare to real life experience. I visited the house 2015, some photos in the video are taken by me , but not all of them.
I love to see old photographs of just about any family, and the ones you provided us were very special. They were very patient in doing what was necessary to live their dream, and what an amazing final result!!
It was a lot of work to find the family photos used in this video. But they were necessary for the beautiful story of a family who never gave up there dreams and created there own ideal house.
Outstanding video. Thank you for showing the parts of the house that are hidden away and difficult to find on the internet. You could have doubled the length of this clip and it would have left me wanting more.
Thank you, I want to each video complete, showing ever room and detail, so also the spaces that are not that interesting and hard to find on the internet. So great that you mentioned it in your comment. More videos come up.
I made a new video about the Case Study House 21. Alos designedd by Pierre Koenig. Similar yet still different design. Here is the video, enjoy! ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
I am from there. I grew up seeing Schuleman's pictures of the Case Study houses. I loved Case 22 as a kid and I still do. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome. Great that you grew up in LA . I'm from Netherlands and saw the house only once in reality, during my visit in 2015.
W0W . . all my questions were answered . . Iv'e never see such an in depth video about this house . . and you even showed the never seen before bathrooms , closets , and laundry room . . Thank You!
Really great to read that you liked the video so much. Each time I make a video about one of these homes I wanted to make the overview so complete and in depth as possible: so your reaction is exactly what I wante to achieve. Creating the ultimate overview of a house, that shows everything, including the never seen spaces that are not that spectaculair. Thank you for commenting and the next video is coming up soon.
THE MOST breathtaking, unique, and amazing home in the world. And it makes my innards turn to jelly just seeing how high it is, and how it has no guard rails anywhere! 😫 I was actually surprised at the square footage, I really thought it was only about 1,200 SF from the looks of it. Clean, streamlined, minimal...it's not the coziest home around, but probably the most famous and most photographed home in the world. Simply stunning all around!
I do agree with you: not coziest but still one of the most visual breathtaking homes of all time. The children who lived there had to were life jackets in case they would fell in the pool. The hillside is steep, but not so steep that it becomes life dangerous when you walk over the edge of the terrace, so in that case it still is safe.
It’s always a pleasure to watch your videos!
Thank you. Your comment stimulates me to make more videos. New content will come up soon.
This home is a pure universal dream! 😮❤😊
Yes it is. Absolutely.
What a treat to see this Iconic design so aptly illustrated. Thank You.
You're welcome.Really great to read that everybody likes this video. I enjoy making these videos and wanted to illustrate them as complete and detailed as possible. More content will come up soon.
Thank you very very much for uploading this astonishing video, about one of the most iconic houses ever made!
Your welcome! I like making these videos, so more videos will come up soon. And yes, the house is an iconic masterpiece.
I remember seeing a photo of a house on a hill looking into the livingroom from outside all lit up at night. That was all you could see. I think this must be that house.
At the time I thought it must be a hollywood mansion.
I dought they could build it today in the same spot.
Thanks for this video. 😊
This is one of the most photographed/ filmed houses in the world, so a great change that his was the house that you saw back then. Great that you liked the video so much.
Enjoyed the video. I built my new Mid Century home in Augusta, GA after living in a similar home in Florida wanting to go back to my roots. So In 2024, this year I completed my home. So there is a Stahl House East Coast too. I am not kin but love the house the Stahl's built. Nothing like it.
Wow! Cool that you built your own dream house inspired by the Stahl House! also great that you liked the video. I'm curious how the design of your house looks like.
What a house! Had the pleasure of going through in 2016 - stunning . Fabulous review - thanks
Yes, I was there in 2015. It's amazing. Great that you liked the video. more videos will come up soon. Thank you!
Thank you so much for your video ❤. It covers very well and easy to understand all aspects of case study house #22.
you're welcome. I wanted to make the walkthrough and history of the house, so clear as possible. So it's great to read founded the video easy to udnerstand. your comment stimulates me to make more content.
What a thorough, well informed and enjoyable exploration of this beautiful house. Many thanks, such a pleasure to watch and be accompanied by your relaxing voice.
You're welcome! Your comment stimulates me to make more videos. Really great to read that you liked the video and that you consider my voice relaxing. Thank you.
Jop, your love for great architecture is contagious. Thank you for sharing your passion.
You're welcome! Yes i like to share my passion. I'm currently busy with making a video about Case Study House 21 , the other brilliant Koenig design.
Minimalistic, but what a view! Love it!
I love it to. Although I always prefer organic over minimalist architecture.
It's always wonderful to see a new video by you. The script and narration are wonderful, and you give us an excellent understanding of the architecture, the layout, the flow, everything.
Thank you! great that you liked the video. I work hard to improve the videos every time. So I love it when someone is happy with the quality of the video. My next video will be about the Googie restuarant by John Lautner. (This time I had so many positive reactions that It took me 5 days to answer all of them, so tehrefore a little late reaction of mine)
Yes you’re very good explaining and make it very easy to follow the angles. Hats off to you.
Thank you! Great to read that you liked the video. @@BillWoodillustrator
@@SuperJobbel just waiting for case study number 21 now. 😉💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Haha.. Stay tuned! I guess somewere in february it will come. @@BillWoodillustrator
Thank you so much for such a wonderful video. I've always wanted to see the Stahl house and now with the help of your video I feel like I have. You're a treasure!
You're welcome! Your comment is the purpose of this channel: I wanted to give people the feeling that they visited the house, to create a complete walkthrough that shows every details. It's a great feeling that I succeed in doing so. I started the channel because it was so difficult to look into the house and to get a complete, so I started the research myself. More videos come up!
Here is a new video I made about Case Stud House 21. Enjoy! ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
So many of the most beautiful buildings all have large roof overhangs.
These overhangs add beauty and protection for doors, windows, and siding from rain and sun damage.
Water is the enemy of buildings.
My fave presentation, on depth of knowledge you put together on this building’s construction..thx much
Thank you. Great to read that its your favorite. It was a lot of work to collect all the information and pictures, the create a complete story of it. But I'm clad it turned out really well.
What an incredible story.
Another time is another world.
Yes, never give up your dreams. You can built your own house, if you want.
Wonderfully done. Thank you sir.
You're welcome! I lvoe making these videos and I love reading the positive comments. Thank you!
Very well made and informative video on the Stahl house, thanks!
you're welcome! I love making these videos and try to improve the quality everytime. Great to read that you like the video so much, this stimulates me to make more content.
What a beautiful way to finish the year. Big fan here! THANK YOU VERY MUCH and HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Thank you very much! You also a very happy new year! best wishes for 2024. More videos will come up this year.
Amazing, informative and sensitive explanation of this iconic home.
Thank you, great to hear that you enjoyed the video. your reaction stimulates me to make more content.
Great video. Really enjoyed this.
Thank you! More videos will come up.
Another great video! Like the video you did on falling water - you do a great job of communicating the sense of space. It is appreciated.
Nice to read that you liked both the Fallingwater and this video. I really like to give a good overview of the lay out and space of the houses. Showing how every part looks from each position. Giving the feeling that you walk through the houses. So your comment stimulates me to make more videos like this.
Thanks for this great video, I always loved this house and now, watching the video I got a clear idea of what the house looks like and how they built it.
You're welcome. Really wonderfull to read that you liked the video. i like the make the most complete video about each house. More videos about Lautner, F.L Wright, Neutra and Koenig will come up.
Thank you for all the very interesting videos, very well put together!
Great to read that you liked the video. I try to improve them everytime. More content coming up :)
I,ve made another video about Case Study House 21. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
First - awesome video. Again. Second - the unreal timing of the Stahl's to buy and build where they did. I can't imagine what the land alone that the house sits on would costs today. Unfortunately, there are no more of these hidden gems of land in California any where. You have to sell your soul to afford a house for a family of four in CA. But, your videos keep me dreaming that maybe one day we can afford the move from Chicago to gorgeous SoCal.
Thank you for your comment. Great to read that you liked the video! Indeed these houses keep inspiring us and feed our dreams. I like the mid century houses more because many contemporary houses all look the same. Good luck, more videos will come up soon.
Thank you again Jop. Another great video with lots of informative content. Keep up this excellent work! G
Your welcome! Always nice to read your comments, thanks. (This time I had so many reactions that it took me 5 days to respond) The next video about John Lautner's Google Restaurant will come up soon.
Hey I made a new video about another Pierre Keoenig design: Case Study House 21. Enjoy! ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
That was a beautiful analysis yet again. Thank you very much!
You're welcome more analyses of modernist houses will come up
I made a new video about Case Study House 21. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html Enjoy!
Thank you, so much, Jop! This is a terrific and comprehensive exposé on the Stahl House. I’ve never seen it in such detail before. I love Koenig’s early designs (very Zen!).
Wow great that you liked the video. I wanted to make the most detailed video possible. Yes, the house by Koenig are very Zen and minimalist. Different than my here john Lautner, but still I liked it very much.
@@SuperJobbel
Yes. I see Lautner as "the architect's architect"! He was very much about original design, and celebrating the curve. I think architects such as Koenig and Neutra had economy in mind and the simplicity and basic elegance of of materials, and angular perspective, at least where domestic architecture was concerned. Just a different focus.
@@KerrieRedgate Very well spoken of you! Cost effective and simplicit is the best way to describe Neutra and Koenig. I love there work and maybe I prefer living in a Koenig or Neutra house over a Lautner home. But if I would have to make several videos about all the houses by Neutra and Koenig, it would be very repetitive to make all those similar videos. That's what I love so much about Lautner, each work is different so each video is also a new adventure to make! So ''Yes'' indeed the ''architect's architect''!
Thank you very much for an informative video on this very special home that was built in 1959.😊❤️
You're welcome! more videos will come up.
Thank you for another superb video!
You're welcome. I like making these videos so more content will come up.
@@SuperJobbel I'm glad to hear that, Jop! I will wait patiently to enjoy it all!
Thank you!@@jinglemyberries866
A truly stunning, iconic and legendary house, which proves it's not always only multi millionaires who can afford to build something of architectural importance. Thanks for this very informative video. I really enjoyed both the historic background story and the virtual tour. Well done.
Great to read that you liked the video so much! Your reaction stimulates me to make more videos. The history is just as important as the beautiful house itself. I'm currently busy with making a video about John Lautner's Googie designs which will be uploaded soon. More other video's will come up after that. :)
The presentation on the highest level like the architecture...Great !
Thank you very much. I like to read your comments . 3 more videos, in high quality, will come up this month around christmas/Holliday season.
Jop really great video. Like it alot. Especially the cleaver design details of e.g. the pool placement. Great work by Koening.
Thanks, great to read that you liked the video. I'm now busy with making a video about Case Study House 21, another great design by Koenig.
Your channel is a hidden gem!
Haha.. Thank you! Great to hear that you enjoy it!:)
Been looking forward to this!
Hey I made another video about Case Study House 21. Also a very interesting design. Enjoy!
ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
@@SuperJobbel Yes! Watched yesterday. Lovely house, I might even prefer to live it over the Stahl in fact.
Thanks for keeping up these videos!
That small terrace off the back living room is a great spot to see the views day or night!!! 😊👍
Absolutely it once of the most photographed terraces in the world.
Brilliant short video! I am an Architecture & dream houses fan from Brazil
Obrigado! Saudocoes da Hollanda :)
Very valuable information which helps me appreciate how never to give up on one's dream! Throughout all your videos one gets a sense of a wild pioneering spirit lost. For some reason, I never see that same MCM spirit captured in modern homes. The raw elements have not been used in the same way to give a feeling of extraordinary yet cozy homes. Wolf House is still my favorite :)))
Indeed this house learns us: never give up your dreams. It's true that modern day homes are a bit boring and identical, compared to these MCM masterpieces. The Wolff House is also my favorite. (a bit late reaction of mine, but there were so many reactions, it took me 5 days to answer all of them)
C'est magnifique !
entièrement d'accord!
Excellent editing, photography, narration, and music choice
Thank you! Great to read that you liked the video so much. I try to improve new video, over the previous one.
Interestingly I am starting construction now of a hillside house inspired by the Stahl House. So your very detailed review interests me greatly! Thank you for your hard work!!!!! Much appreciated...
Great to read that I help you with providing information that you can use for your new home. It was indeed a lot of hard work, but I really love to do it, so a new video will come up soon. Good luck with building your new home.
this house lovely
I absolutely remember this house from pictures and I love it!!!❤️ The only thing if I bought the place I would put the fireplace back to the way it was and trying to find all the old furniture from the old photos and make it look the way it did when it was first built 😊
Good choice! Bringing back the house in it's original condition with vintage MCM furniture. Maybe you can buy a similar house and decorate like the Stahl House.
Excellent job as always
thank you! You have a great YT profile thumbnail : David Hockney's ''A Bigger Splash''
@@SuperJobbel Good eye!
I love modern art, so I recognise most modern artworks, David hockney is one my favorite contemporary painters. ''A Bigger Spalsh'' was inspired by Californian archtiecture: in the videos about the Harpel House and Kaufmann House, I make reference to the painting. @@GGLD888
I made a new video about Case Study House 21. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html Enjoy!
A remarkable job of presenting the background on this famous house….excellent research and graphics! (new subscriber)
Thank you, great to read that you liked the video so much. Welcome to the channel, I make videos mostly about John Lautner but also about other modernist architects. More will be uploaded soon!
Here is a new video about Case Study House 21. Enjoy! ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
Love it
it is so great that everyday folks made this happen. I love all the great American homes that have been built but they have been built by super rich or influential people. the fact that these owners had to struggle to pay off the initial mortgage is so inspiring.
True! The house is the proof that you never must give up your dreams. Always keep hoping and work hard, that shows this design.
Dat was een interessante video, Job. Het is een zeer doordacht huis.
Dankjewel, leuk om iemand in het Nederlands hierover te spreken. Het is zeker een heel goed bedacht huis. Al klagen veel mensen over de 2e slaapkamer die alleen door een andere slaapkamer toegankelijk is. Tot de volgende video!
This is great. Been there.
I made a new video about Case Study House 21. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html Enjoy!
Mooi gedaan man! Wat je video extra leuk maakt is dat je de moeite hebt genomen om de geschiedenis van de eigenaren en het bouwproces ook te belichten. Fantastisch te zien dat beperkingen aan het begin van het project het uiteindelijke resultaat eigenlijk alleen maar sterker gemaakt hebben. En HOE. Het meest gefotografeerde huis uit de CSH reeks. Hoop dat je genoten hebt van de rondleiding. Benieuwd naar je volgende video 👍🏼
Dankjewel voor je bericht! Grappig ook om een reactie van iemand in het Nederlands te lezen. Ja de geschiedenis en constructie van het huis is even interessant als het huis zelf. Idd de beperkingen hebben het huis sterker gemaakt. ik ben van plan om meer videos over andere CSH ontwerpen te maken. Volgende video komt binnekort eraan (deze gaat over het Googie Restaurant van John Lautner)
@@SuperJobbel ‘Ere wie ere toekomt ‘. Ben ook een fan van Mid Century Modern. Lautner, Neutra, de Eames’s en ook Niemeier. Benieuwd naar je volgende video. Veel plezier bij het maken ervan.
Ja dankje. Van allemaal ga ik videos maken. Eerst ga ik nog zeker 7 videos van Lautner maken. Daarna komen er nog meer video van Wright, Neutra en de case Study huizen aan. Niemeyer is ook een held van me, alleen daar heb ik nog weinig infromatie over verzameld dus daar zullen later videos over worden gemaakt. @@tristanobrien4096
Hey ik heb weer een nieuwe video gemaakt, dit keer van Case Study House 21, ook ontworpen door Pierre Koenig. Het lijkt een beetje op huis 22 maar dan toch heel anders. Check maar even. Veel kijkplezier! ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html
@@SuperJobbel ah super. Ga ik morgenochtend lekker naar kijken. Merci!
Maybe one day I'll be able to visit that place.👍
Yes you should definitely do that. You can buy tickes on: stahlhouse.com/tours/ I don't know where you live, but I live in the Netherlands and visited the house only once.
So dang cool
This was an era of high style and imagination. Nothing like today.
Absolutely true. We need more style and imagination these days.
Stunning! Even out of your Lautner wheelhouse this is a beautiful home! Loved the in-depth history and photographs from the 50's & 60's.. Great job Jop! Maybe a side line on the rest of the Case House Studies?
Yes, I'm gonna make a sideline with Case Study Houses on this channel. Also sidelines with Frank Lloyd Wright and Richard Neutra designed Homes. But John Lautner always remaines the main focus of the channel.
@@SuperJobbel oh! Looking forward to those!
One of my favorite houses, ever! Thank you! One of the case study houses near the beach recently went on the market. There is probably interest in this house, also.
You're welcome! It's also one of my favorite houses. I didn't knew there was a CSH design for sale, which one? I shall ceck it out. Thank you!
@SuperJobbel case study #18. It looks like it hit the market a number of months ago. How time flies, it felt like only a few weeks.
Time flies when you''re having fun. It's 3 weeks ago that send me the message, but only I see that you replied. My apology for a late reaction. @@clayton97330
I made a new video about Case Study House 21. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html Enjoy!
@SuperJobbel yep, watched it! Amazing video, as usual!
Please do an assessment of case study no 21. There’s very little footage of it about- and it’s my second favourite case study home. ❤ thanks in advance….
Yes, I will do a video about Case Study House 21. I already have a lot of information and photos about it, but it will take some time before the video is made. First I'm busy with some videos about John Lautner homes.
As promised: here's the video about Case Study House 21:
ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html enjoy!
I am also happy that it is still owned by the same family.😊👍
Yes, they never changed the design of the house.
Hello my dear friend!
This week i was looking for case study houses and think that would be amazing if you make videos about it. What a coincidence!
Indeed a great coinscedence : we share a similar taste in architecture, when you think of something, I think of it at the same time. Guess what the new video will be about?
@@SuperJobbel Yeah! Your videos make me really get into the architecture world and fall in love for it, Thanks for that! I really don't have idea of the new video theme but i would be really happy if was one of the brazilian masters of modernism like Paulo Mendes da Rocha, Niemeyer or Vilanova Artigas
Yes, I would love to make videos about Oscar Niemeyer. But first I'm gonna make four playlists with videos about Lautner, Frank Lloyd Wright, Cas Stud Houses and Richard Neutra. Than the 5th playlist will be about Niemeyer. I still have to make 10 videos about Lautner before all his designs are done and the playlist is finished. @@tallesguedes1149
Hey Jop! Very well researched video again. I did not know that mr. Stahl had made a design for the land!
Today for some reason i wanted to give you a few names of some lesser known but each in their own way brilliant architects. Because the chances are decent that at least one of them might be unknown to you, and if you're anything like me it's always a pleasure to discover something new that is quality. José Zanine Caldas, Javier Senosiain, Bruce Goff, Hervé Baley, Bart Prince.
Hope you agree with me that these are worth discovering!
Hey Milo (Peter), great to hear from you again! I haven't heard most names of the architects you just send me. I'm not familliar with Jose Zanine Caldas, Javies Senosiain, Bruce Goff and Herve Baely. But I do know Bart Prince quite well, I'm planning to make a video about one of his houses already. As a matter fact in the video about the Garwood House I already mentioned his name, because one of his houses is located nextdoor to the Garwood House. His designs are really great. I will check out the other architects. The comming weeks I will upload first some videos about other John Lautner designs. Tot ziens!
@@SuperJobbel You're in for a treat then!
Thank you for such an informative and visually great video again!
No insulation under the steel plated roof? I guess the room climate will be extreme.
It is California.
Yes the house is in hot and sunny California. When it becomes to hot: the pool and cantilevering roof provide enough cooling. The windows can slide open and fresh wind can stream through the house. So climate control is very good in the house.
Thank you! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.
It appears to me that the site work was maybe more important, and possibly innovative, than the design/construction of the home?
Yes preparing the ground took more time than the actual construction. Stil though the prefab construction was revolutionary for its time.
Your videos are like having a hot chocolate in front of an open fire. Thank you.
Haha... thank you! I take that as a great compliment: a hot chocolate in front of a fireplace. Very good and funny description. ;)
And the way they structured buying the place is the same as I would do too.
One of the best house ever built on planet earth.
Yes, It's a masterpiece. It's in my top 15 favorite houses in the world.
:) Farnsworth House come close....@@SuperJobbel
I made a new video about Case Study House 21. Another great design. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html Enjoy!
That's amazing Stahl came up with the design? Koenig is always given all the credit. I have never seen this before. Stahl was the architect.
Well, no not exactly,.... Stahl did the floorplan, the basic L shape. Koenig did design the construction, he did all the difficult calcilations. He chose for steel instead of wood as Stahl had imagined. And he simplified Stahl design, which would be otherwise to expensive to buolt. It's not fair the call Stahl the architect. Koenig did the most work. But indeed Stahl partly deserves credit for co-designing the house.
@@SuperJobbel I believe Koenig didn't solve the difficult structural engineering. He hired a father and son team. Koenig used them a number of times for turning Koenig's drawing into structurally feasible solutions. There are a couple journalistic articles from their interviews of the engineering they did for Koenig. The interesting thing is if Stahl did the original design, and Koenig hired the structural engineers, then he doesn't get as much credit for the design or structural solution as he should. Stahl should get a lot more notoriety. Stahl was an artistic sign painter. Your video shows he was not just the inspiration behind the Stahl House, but a legitimate co-designer, if not the core-designer of the Stahl House.
Okay interesting to read! Thank you. It's quite common that an architect has assistents that help him with calculations. I don't know how much Koenig did the calaculations, or how much has done by his assistents. It was his choice to use industrial materials. Indeed Stahl deserves credit as the co-designer. @@ryanjohnson8659
wow!
Location, location, location, looks great, it's a wonder they never updated it. A far cry from the mansions that I have seen on Selling Sunset.
Exactly true: the house is so great because it's so minimalistic. Less is more. The location becomes the most important part of the house, modern day mansiond are just to big.
I made a new video about Case Study House 21. Here is the link: ruclips.net/video/Khm93iTZDd0/видео.html Enjoy!
Very nice walkthrough!
Still laughing about the toilet in the green area of the L ... the whole house looks so modern and open, white colored walls or wood and mirror panels or stone panels and then you see the toilet and it looks like it was stolen from grandma's house. Hihihi, the toilet or sanitary cubicle for the children fits in much better.
I would have changed a few things about the design myself. The two concrete bridges over the pool bother me the most; I would have constructed them at ground level with the terrace so that you can easily reach the kitchen with heavy crates of drinks, for example.
Thanks! Haha... yes I agree with you: the toilet looks very dated and not in style with the rest of the house. About the bridges: Today air condition is much better so they are not necessary any more, back in the days the pool had to reach to the bedroom windows in order to cool them. So it was a good solution back then.... today every archtitect would indeed remove the bridge and expand the terrace. (a little bit late reaction of mine but there were so many reactions this time, so I took 5 days to answer all of them)
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"...dangerous-looking part of the house..." 😀
No, lets not "take a peek in the toilet" in the "bothroom". 😄
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I also like both organic and minimalist styles and any preference probably depends on location.
Haha... yes sometimes I struggle with the language in a funny way. I didn't knew that the room that contains a toilet is called a bathroom, in my language the room is called a toilet. haha. Is ''dangerous looking part of theh ouse'' not correct English or does it just sounds funny? ( a bit late reaction of mine, but there were so many reaction that it took 5 days to answer all of them)
@@SuperJobbel Haha, I'm gald you have a sense of humor, as it's becoming rare nowadays.
Your English is fine, but yeah, the "toilet" room is just referred to as the bathroom. The word "toilet" actually refers specifically to the thing you sit on, not the room as a whole. "Toilet" is actually a bit crude, especially when discussing high-class housing, LOL. "Commode" might be a better term.
It reminds me of an old Benny Hill skit, wherein an interviewer suggests to the interviewee (Hill) that a better word for "manure" would be "fertilizer", when the little old guy standing next to them points out that it took the interviewee (Hill) two years to learn to call it "manure". Maybe you have to see it to get the humor.
As for "dangerous-looking part of the house", it just sounds a bit funny. Nothing wrong with saying that, as it does indeed look dangerous. I had to listen to it twice, because at first I thought you just said, "dangerous part of the house" which would really have been funny.
I love your vids and I've watched all of them now. They will help me make some of these houses for The Sims computer game (The Sims 2), so your floorplans are especially important to me.
Thanks for your reaction! I have watch multiple episodes of Benny Hill, but I can't rember the sketch your mention. Funny that my videos inspire you building a house in the Sims. really great that real life archtiecture inspires a video game. Best wishes and till the next video. @@robs5688
Thank you for your wonderful videos! It's surprising that the street view of this iconic house is so unappealing. The lack of curb appeal is more than made up for by the more well-known views in the back of the house. One thing I never liked about the house was that one must walk through the master bedroom to get to the other bedroom. I can think of solutions, but there are always tradeoffs on such a small and challenging lot.
Yes from the street the house doesn't look attractive, but the view from the pool compensates everything. I agree with you that the walk throug one bedroom to enter the 2nd bedroom is a problem. A corridor in the back from the walkin closet was possible but than the master bedroom would become very small.
First of all, this house is an icon of modern art, no doubt about it. Buuut, as a living space it has its flaws. For example I've always wondered about the temperature of the bedrooms in July, at noon. Because without cross ventilation (the facade towards the road is closed), with that roof radiating all the power of the heat of the sun and with no AC...
I bet the bathroom of the kids must have been hell in the summers of their youth 😅🥵
Yes it has flaws, but keep in mind it's a house that is 60 years old. For its time it was really comfortable to live in. I dont know how the exact climate control of the house works, but I do know that the pool cools the house a lot, as well as the wind that can blow through the sliding doors. Indeed its not really suitable for AC.
I remember there was a Valentino fashion shoot in this house.
Okay that could be possible, I dont know. Anyway its a perfect location for a Valentino photoshoot.
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hydronic heating ! holy smokes however what material were the hoses ? copper or galvanized steel ? I'm actually surprised that terrazzo wasn't laid as the finished floor maybe cost overruled it
Cupper tubes. Honestly I don't know if the terrace is heated or not. Interesting profile picture do you have: is that Alain Delon in a Wehrmacht uniform, or some other actor?
@@SuperJobbel no sir it's Hans Kloss a fictional WW2 Polish spy look him up he was kind of like James Bond
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I would lose the fireplace and replace it with a 60s looking retro style wood burning stove. That huge box with the rocks would be replaced with a small stovepipe. This would open up the view, there would be much more heat, and it would look like it was always there. Could be custom made. Not only does the big box block the view, the rock doesn’t seem to fit with the modern steel and glass. I’d go for a steel and glass stove.
well, you're not the only one who dislikes the rockstone firebox, based on the comments there's a lot of criticism on it: so I think you have a good point. It's indeed somewhat dissonant with the rest of the house..
Excellent video...
The neighbors really should have had a little more consideration with their roof appearance...
Solar is wonderful, but there must have been a more attractive design alternative?
Hahaha! I know what you mean: solar panels are not the most beautiful things, but good for the climate, so indeed they must be designed more stylish. I don't know if some designer ever had designed modernist stylish solar panels Great to read that you enjoyed the video! :)
Congratulations and thank you for yet another great video! This house is extremely beautiful, I wonder how it is to live in it.
You're welcome. I think this is one of most beautiful houses ever. To visit the house is already fantastic, let alone living in it.
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@@SuperJobbel Thank you! I will watch it right now.
Neely O’Hara’s place in Valley of the Dolls? 😍😍😍
I dont know, It could be. It used in many movies.
Imagine living up there before the neighbor's came along.
Yes, in the beginning the house had no neighbours.
How did you discover the construction details of the house?
Through reading books about Pierre Koenig and the Case Study Program, studying the original drawings, ad examining the photos. I also made a video about Case Study House 21 both houses are very similar, I read a lot of books about them.
This house was on Columbo and barnby jones
Yes that's ture. And on many more tv shows and movies!
@@SuperJobbel another home that I like used to be on 944 airole way Bel-Air. That was on the classic shows, in which I’m sure you’re well aware of.
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Ultimate bachelor pad, even if originally built for a family. Amazing that this was considered a middle class house and could be attained by the middle class...back then California had plenty of land...what you have in abundance is valued the least...could never happen now. The wealth of the family evidenced by the very modest '55 Ford wagon, and later by the drab minivan. I assume there must be some insulation sandwiched in that metal roof.
Yes there's a layer of isolation materials placed over the metal roof. The house was cheap to buitl in 1950's, as was the price of the ground in the time. The three children of the Stahl family had multiple offers to sell he house, the latest offer was $20 million. Still they don't want to sell it and they earn a lot of money by renting the house for photo/film shoots and to allow paid tours.
@@SuperJobbel $50,000 for a home was not middle class back then. more like $5,000 was.
Accounted for inflation 50.000 is 600.000 in todays money. That is still unaccessable for most people, but by no means a house only for rich people. I would say it's price was in 1960 on the top of the average market. Maybe was it only slightly above average: still it was rather cheap for a house with a pool.@@justthink5854
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Nice house, if it was mine and not a historical house that fireplace would be gone or greatly minimized
Yes personally I like the fireplace thw way it was: with the palster boards. Still everybody has it's own taste.
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This house has been in music videos no?
Yes it's been used in several music videos. But I don't know exactly which ones.
arch/client wet dream. i would have made a fire place box, and just a steel pipe flue or just use the stl structure and not cover it with stone. how do they cool this place?? the L and pool shapes work wonderfully with each other. with bed/bath 2 i would have made the master smaller and put a jack and jill bathroom across the back, and made 2 small bedrooms with clo between thus making a 3 bed 2.5 bath home. the master is needlessly big. yes the kids would still have to go outside to get to the kitchen/dine/living
Originaly the house had no airconditioning: the place was cooled by the wind that streams through the open windows/doors, the house is located high on the hills so there is mostly a lot of wind. Also the water of the pool cooled it.
- Yes, maybe a corridor in the back would have made the 2nd bedroom more accesible, but the masterbedroom would have been much smaller.
- yes, A firebox instead of a stone fireplace would have been more in style with the rest of the house.
@@SuperJobbel got it. with the small house the master is needlessly huge. and Strangers When We Met. this is a romance movie with great stars, but also the backdrop of 1960 Cal and of an architect's design and construction back then. paradise lost. also discover Langworthy's homes in Cal. ruclips.net/video/XsbzxYcApeo/видео.html
Not sure why they used 12" beams for the ceiling frame and 4" for the floor frame.
The reason why the used 4'' beams for the floorframe has to do with the view over hte landscape. Thicker beams would have spoil a view outside. By placing multiple thinner beams you an have beautiful windows with unbroken panorama's. This makes the house very transparant.
I think you miss read what I said. They used the thicker beams for the ceiling and thinner for he floor.@@SuperJobbel
@@stevieg6418 Oh yes! Now I see it. Yeah, interesting, well I guess the lower 12 beams of the frame are below in the concrete floorplates. The lower 4" beams are the lower window frames. At least that's what I think.
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