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can you go over some info with me..... fuchsia os uses flutter fuchsia os support swift does it mean flutter does or will soon support swift? in addition to dart. fuchsia os will replace android eventually wouldn't it have been better to use kotlin for flutter and fuchsia. unless you guys implementing swift for flutter and fuchsia, then you'd be able to create apps for ios, android, and fuchsia using just swift.
Great story. However, It was unlikely they were going to fail because it just wasnt Posse developing it. Googles reputation was on the line so they threw their resources at it too
Wow the mix sounds amazing, I think it's the fastest route to release an app on 3 platforms nowdays (if you consider all the features including hot reload, the builtin widgets and so on ). As for the Firebase requests I'm pretty sure the pattern of "persistent message communication trough a database" is around for many many years, it was just forgotten.
Why doesn't Cloud Function in FB support Dart language, so we can stay with ONE language fro the front end and back end. Currently we have to use Node.js and TS to write functions.
this is massively confusing google added Kotlin for android then created another OS fuchsia that'd replace android started using Flutter for Fuchsia. then added SWIFT support to Fuchsia (so does flutter support swift now?) Flutter uses dart by default... So my question is: do i learn kotlin, dart or swift. If my goal is to learn the next thing. I know java is out of the question as i rather learn kotlin
Go with Kotlin if you wanna go for Android application development If, however, you wanna do it for both iOS and Android, go for Dart. Flutter seems promising and could be a good competitor to frameworks similar to it like React Native or NativeScript
It was a great start with Flutter and dart. I have a general question - should I just some state management mechanism like "Redux" in my flutter apps ? Thanks in advance for your valuable replies
with this approach to data management, although it scales well, i’d imagine the costs of scaling the database could rise pretty quickly. are there other approaches for managing data with firebase that scale well but are more cost effective ?
The paradigm of using RealtimeDatabase as a mechanism to process requests when compared to traditional req/response model looks super awesome and scales well. But isn’t the cost going to raise exponentially as well to use this approach for broader everyday use cases like blog,media,social messaging sites? The idea of using HTTP/Cloud endpoints to process requests seems cost effective? Thanks.
Hm, he said his clients didn't want him to reinvent the wheel. He just did it when reinvented API by saving data to Firebase and then listening for change done by Cloud Function. Totally makes no sense to me
I found that firebase cloud functions iteration speed is the exact opposite to hot reloading of flutter. It takes about a minute to try out a newly deployed version of a cloud function. So maybe a cloud function simulator would be good (matching hot loading capability).
Actually, there is. You can test your cloud functions locally using firebase cli to serve your endpoints on a localhost. Check out "firebase serve --only functions"
Puneet Kaushik if you want a powerful native app to access full potential then use kotlin/java. If speed isnt that much of a problem and you have to develop quickly due to time restraints then use flutter or react native
I have question. I create flutter apps using bloc and create class api provider and interceptor. If i got code 401. How to navigate directly to oage login from class api provider or intercwptoe withour context. Thanks
When I started learning flutter I faced much problem in setting thing up.but finally when I set up it.then the I thought make web app and switched it and some time after I thought to switch to make a mobile app I could not proper resources and it did not worked for me so I left the flutter
sir when i have run flutter app in emulator,it runs correctly .when i see a emulator the app size is 97 mb,the app size is large .i have doubt if i use flutter for my project app size it would bigger , how to use flutter to develop big project
What was not so nice about this marketing talk is about the constant BS of both companies trying to promote their platform, win win situation right ? Instead of showing real code and talking tech they became marketeers obviously funded by google. And posse just caught a piece of the cake in between.
It is! However, in order to use Firebase cloud functions you will have to write javascript code for most of the backend processes (which will be executed in a node.js environment).
Yeah, a simple code to upload image on firebase using flutter takes several minutes, extremely slow and non reliable. I am thinking if i should continue to waste my time learning flutter or move on to another alternative? I guess flutter is good for only basic simple, one of those junk apps.
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Dart and Flutter are amazing. I haven't enjoyed trying out a new language and framework as much for years!
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Had an awesome time developing an app to help students of my college to get the university bus and I really hope flutter succeds, it rocks!
What's the link to the app? And thanks for using Flutter :)
can you go over some info with me.....
fuchsia os uses flutter
fuchsia os support swift
does it mean flutter does or will soon support swift? in addition to dart.
fuchsia os will replace android eventually
wouldn't it have been better to use kotlin for flutter and fuchsia.
unless you guys implementing swift for flutter and fuchsia, then you'd be able to create apps for ios, android, and fuchsia using just swift.
Go Seth! WooHoo! Loved what Posse did with Hamilton too. So cool to see what you can do with Flutter. Thanks for this!
Great story. However, It was unlikely they were going to fail because it just wasnt Posse developing it. Googles reputation was on the line so they threw their resources at it too
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Wow the mix sounds amazing, I think it's the fastest route to release an app on 3 platforms nowdays (if you consider all the features including hot reload, the builtin widgets and so on ). As for the Firebase requests I'm pretty sure the pattern of "persistent message communication trough a database" is around for many many years, it was just forgotten.
Flutter rocks, Dart rocks!
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Mike. you rock :)
both Firebase and Flutter are amazing
Impressive work. Thanks for sharing.
Why doesn't Cloud Function in FB support Dart language, so we can stay with ONE language fro the front end and back end. Currently we have to use Node.js and TS to write functions.
Because firebase is not specifically for Flutter
Flutter: The One.
this is massively confusing
google added Kotlin for android
then created another OS fuchsia that'd replace android
started using Flutter for Fuchsia.
then added SWIFT support to Fuchsia
(so does flutter support swift now?)
Flutter uses dart by default...
So my question is:
do i learn kotlin, dart or swift.
If my goal is to learn the next thing.
I know java is out of the question as i rather learn kotlin
Go with Kotlin if you wanna go for Android application development
If, however, you wanna do it for both iOS and Android, go for Dart. Flutter seems promising and could be a good competitor to frameworks similar to it like React Native or NativeScript
Kotlin is a java sidekick -> learn dart or java
It was a great start with Flutter and dart. I have a general question - should I just some state management mechanism like "Redux" in my flutter apps ? Thanks in advance for your valuable replies
isn't Fiber base a server provided by google that has to be paid after it crosses the max users ??
with this approach to data management, although it scales well, i’d imagine the costs of scaling the database could rise pretty quickly. are there other approaches for managing data with firebase that scale well but are more cost effective ?
That is awesome! Where do I find the demo function code?
The paradigm of using RealtimeDatabase as a mechanism to process requests when compared to traditional req/response model looks super awesome and scales well. But isn’t the cost going to raise exponentially as well to use this approach for broader everyday use cases like blog,media,social messaging sites? The idea of using HTTP/Cloud endpoints to process requests seems cost effective?
Thanks.
Hm, he said his clients didn't want him to reinvent the wheel. He just did it when reinvented API by saving data to Firebase and then listening for change done by Cloud Function. Totally makes no sense to me
It's an old pattern: Think triggers in rdbms.
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Exactly!
This is awesomeeee!!! Thanks!!
I have 3 weeks to build a real-time bus tracking app for my assignment, hopefully firebase and flutter will help
How did it go?
When would you use this over progressive web apps? That talk was really big at this conference too
My lovely flutter is growing 💓
I found that firebase cloud functions iteration speed is the exact opposite to hot reloading of flutter. It takes about a minute to try out a newly deployed version of a cloud function. So maybe a cloud function simulator would be good (matching hot loading capability).
Actually, there is. You can test your cloud functions locally using firebase cli to serve your endpoints on a localhost. Check out "firebase serve --only functions"
Fabio Daniele tks, saw that later.
Flutter is the best 👍✌
what should one choose then?
classic approach ie via java or kotlin?
or react native?
or flutter?
Puneet Kaushik if you want a powerful native app to access full potential then use kotlin/java. If speed isnt that much of a problem and you have to develop quickly due to time restraints then use flutter or react native
stateful hot reload is fire! not working on react native as expected
Amazing!
Where do I find the demo function code?
I have question. I create flutter apps using bloc and create class api provider and interceptor. If i got code 401. How to navigate directly to oage login from class api provider or intercwptoe withour context. Thanks
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When I started learning flutter I faced much problem in setting thing up.but finally when I set up it.then the I thought make web app and switched it and some time after I thought to switch to make a mobile app I could not proper resources and it did not worked for me so I left the flutter
sir when i have run flutter app in emulator,it runs correctly .when i see a emulator the app size is 97 mb,the app size is large .i have doubt if i use flutter for my project app size it would bigger ,
how to use flutter to develop big project
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What was not so nice about this marketing talk is about the constant BS of both companies trying to promote their platform, win win situation right ? Instead of showing real code and talking tech they became marketeers obviously funded by google. And posse just caught a piece of the cake in between.
"what not so nice about marketing talk..."
It was exactly that. A product speel. And there WAS code.
lol
Wait, why does he talk about Typescript and JavaScript? Isn't Flutter only written in Dart?
It is! However, in order to use Firebase cloud functions you will have to write javascript code for most of the backend processes (which will be executed in a node.js environment).
How to access document file from firebase into flutter and show in exact format as shown in document files
Yeah, a simple code to upload image on firebase using flutter takes several minutes, extremely slow and non reliable. I am thinking if i should continue to waste my time learning flutter or move on to another alternative? I guess flutter is good for only basic simple, one of those junk apps.
great talk! now where can you get tutorials to learn flutter dart????
You can find docs and tutorials on our website. For example, here's our codelab: codelabs.developers.google.com/codelabs/flutter/index.html#0
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I ❤️ flutter
very nice, but I think I will use Nativescript-Vue
so which one is the way to go Dart, Kotlin, or else?
newit corporation dart + flutter
nice!
Go posse!!!
What is the name of the font that is used in his presentation? Anyone?
Does anyone know where the source code is?
Why the demo code is not written in Dart?
He was showing off the firebase cloud functions, which are javascript / typescript
The app is written in Dart and has some platform specific code
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"Reach users across all of mobile"?
No there is a small resistance against the monopoly of Android and iOS:
Windows Phone
Just kidding :'D
Everything rocks, APK size sucks.
Dat ios lag tho...
More publicity for Android
Its fu***ing complex