Reaction to Marcelo Bielsa criticizing Copa America organizers | ESPN FC
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- ESPN FC’s Dan Thomas, Shaka Hislop, Steve McManaman, Frank Leboeuf and Julien Laurens react to Uruguay head coach Marcelo Bielsa slamming Copa America organizers following the incident following his club’s semifinal loss to Colombia.
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Canada’s head coach Marsch also has valid criticisms of this tournament as well. The professionalism of the Copa America was a big L.
Only because they lost..
@@Wizzy678 Obviously you watched none of the games then. Typical…
@@SimpExterminator yeah i watched 1 ufc fight fest during brazil and stopped watching him
@Wizzy678 nah it is not just him, this tournament was a bit poorly run
Meh, Argentina’s coach spoke first about the conditions of the pitch and referees and he got sanctioned last week, and now they are going after Bielsa and his players. Marsch is the only one who spoke about his “criticisms” without getting any sanctions… they were kinder with him
Bielsa is 100% right
Absolutely good for him not to held back. Legend
So you think it is appropriate for members of their team to enter the stands and punch fans who are in the stands? No wrong doing whatsoever by any of the Uruguayans? Nobody crossed the line? This is all cool with you and they had no other choice?
Agreed. Conmebol expected USA to do all the work. They've kindly loaned them their infrastructure so the least conmebol can do is show a little organisation
@@mccullochmikeThat is the South American mindset. Everybody else is to blame but themselves. Besides, no videos of players' families have surfaced. Bielsa is full of himself.
@@mccullochmike Listen to the press conference, it's explained in detail how organization failed to protect or mitigate the damage family members of the Uruguay team were suffering for not having a specific area separated from the rest of the colombian fans. AND the failure to mitigate that disaster once the fight started and women and children were trying to get away.
Bielsa stood and stands against top coaches all his life n never complaints, win or lose.. So when he says things, it is the truth.. a man of reputation.
Bielsa is correct, look at the state of football, if they could, they would make the U.S. host everything, euro cup, African cup of nations, Asian cup, champions league, premier league, la liga, but they don’t because people would complain.
Organizers don’t care about the integrity of the sport, only money. In 2016 the excuse was because “100 years of Copa America,”, now it’s because “the U.S. is hosting the World Cup”, next is gonna be because “it’s fun to host it there”.
USA isn’t even a CONMEBOL nation.
Not true! The reason the US is hosting Copa America is because it was Ecuador's turn and the country couldn't vouch for anyone's safety due to its political upheaval. CONMEBOL turned to the USA for help! Next time get your facts right, bubba!
Than don't call it Copa America 🤷♂️
Bro tried sneaking in Afcon 🤦♂️🤣
This exactly. USA is not up to the task of hosting real Football Tournaments. It's because of $$$$
Only South America should host it simple
There shouldn’t be any grass laid over turf. Everything must be natural grass
Isnt only that. Field is barely at minimun size, too small to elite comps.
They said they will remove the turf in 2026 we'll see
They also need to quit doing these INDOORS with the roof
For the 2026 World Cup they should choose only NFL stadiums with natural grass fields to host the matches (like Kansas City, Arizona, Las Vegas, Levi’s Stadium etc) that would solve this issue of putting patched grass on artificial turf which looks terrible and also falls apart. It’s why I’m disappointed the World Cup Final is planned to be played at MetLife stadium which has artificial turf field
@@wolfmanj12 CONMEBOL wanted to squeeze every dollar from fans. They wanted matches to be held in big stadiums to get as many fans in the matches as possible. They didn't care about the pitches or the dimensions. They wanted to make as much money as possible, football and the players were the last thing on their mind. We have football especific stadiums in the US. But they're not as big. So they didn't think that they would put as much money in their pockets as they would in bigger stadiums. Money is the first and foremost thought in their minds, not football or players.
We are not a football nation. We are pro "anything that makes is money"
Bielsa is a truth teller.
Right. US-Americans will never have a clue what football means.
No, he is not, he's just a sore loser, he wouldn't be saying anything if his team had won the game, also there isn't a single video backing up the Uruguayan claims that the Colombian fans were attacking their families in the stand, ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA! there are however, hundreds of videos showing the Uruguayan players looking for a fight, as a result 11 URUGUAYAN players are being investigate, almost the whole freaking team might be sanctioned. What a bunch of sore losers, SMFH!
There isn't a single video backing up the Uruguayan claims that the Colombian fans were attacking their families in the stand, ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA! there are however, hundreds of videos showing the Uruguayan players looking for a fight, as a result 11 URUGUAYAN players are being investigate, almost the whole freaking team might be sanctioned. What a bunch of sore losers, SMFH!
@@edantes2008you have ZERO knowledge of football and you are making a fool of yourself 🤡
I believe before his lost against Colombia he was saying things about the field at least @@edantes2008
The price scalping made tickets insanely overpriced
Organization was disgusting. There was a single gate for 70 thousand people to go through security. I was amongst a sea of Colombian supporters that were drank before the game started. They thrashed the surrounding around the stadium. Without separating the crowds there will be massive problems on Sunday. I paid $3k for 4 tickets behind a goal. The US cannot organize a Sunday league game.
COMENBOL organized it. But go ahead and believe that the US can't organize something like this. There are 100s of american football games in the US every weekend in the fall. Yet there are no problems like this.
Also, FOFO has real consequences here - check the 2nd amendment to our constitution to see why
And they does want to compete with the likes of Argentina,Spain,France,Germany e.t.c....Ha!In their dreams.Cuz they're a bunch of jokers.
One security gate?! At the Qatar World Cup there were so many and all along the stadium so you didn't have to crowd. I remember it took an extra long time to get into Switzerland vs Serbia because they had extra security to break up any potential balkan albania vs serbia fights. To my suprise, there were barely any outbreaks for that game compared to previous match-ups. US needs to take the same precautions and also mark which games and rivalries to look out for. It feels like they're only concerned with selling tickets and drinks. Which fyi a lot of countries ban or limit drinks because hooliganism can get out of hand.
It’s not the US. It Conenbol organizers being cheap and saving to pocket it from themselves. Also tickets were massively expensive, the pitch was awful, the refs were disgusting bad, the fans disrespectful with racial slurs, etc.
One of the worst tournaments you’ll ever see. They thought since it was in the US they could relax and make big money. But everyone sees how bad the South American federation is
@@gabrielgonzalez6456 the staff at the stadium was with the Panthers. The no show police was local from Charlotte. I bought the ridiculously expensive tickets from Ticketmaster. I make no apologies for Corruptbol but the org was US based.
$500 ticket how they expect people to show up.
Unfortunately people will pay it
Should not be like that. The rampage capitalism in this country will destroy us😵💫
@@goudagalindo1790Not really most games did not reach full capacity
@@pablobianchi3117 All big games were houseful.
@@G4MBITthird place game was not lol open your eyes
Ale Moreno has spoken up weeks before and no one listened .... the Copa America should never be held in the USA
Nonsense! It already was held in 2016 with no incidents!
@@ricomajesticwhat u talking about. They complain about the same thing
Because commebol wants unite with concacaf under banner of usa
Biesla is criticizing Conmebol not the US.
This has nothing to do with the us. It’s Conmebol. The us has the best sports infrastructure in the world.
The organizers should’ve definitely separated the fans like how it’s done in other countries. It’s gonna be a messy World Cup in 2026. Many heated South American and European rivalries that could get heated
European fight with other european to, go and watch duch fans against the english on the street the last game on eurocopa .
@@lauragallardo1593 I never said they didn’t
Imagine, God forbid a final between England and Argentina and both fans are sitting shoulder to shoulder!?!? It's going to be a bloodbath!!!
Only middle class people can afford to watch a world cup in USA their won't be any real fans there in big numbers same as it was in Qatar, Russia, Japan/Korea and South Africa....
There's always trouble at the Euros because of the huge amount of working class fans that attend
@@LazarusSladeI’m here for that
I saw the whole interview it’s 40
Minutes long HIGH RECOMMEND even if you don’t know Spanish watch it with subs is possible,
This man defend HIS TEAM AND PLAYERS AS IT SHOULD BE. WHY IS HE BEING QUESTIONED ON THE PLAYERS WHEN COPA AMERICA CANT EVEN PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES?!
GREED GREED GREED
I can find it but not with English subs. Any links?
Greed is a cancer and America is all metastasized.
Try activating the captions and then selecting Automatically translated to english in the options
There isn't a single video backing up the Uruguayan claims that the Colombian fans were attacking their families in the stand, ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA! there are however, hundreds of videos showing the Uruguayan players looking for a fight, as a result 11 URUGUAYAN players are being investigate, almost the whole freaking team might be sanctioned. What a bunch of sore losers, SMFH!
@@edantes2008how does second place feel
Not to mention that they have to redo the fields in all the stadiums to make them 15 ft. wider...the narrow fields in this tourney were not up to FIFA regulations.
Wonder what they'll do in 2026
@@sebastianmidar5159😂probably will be the same but with a bit wider pitch😂
@@sebastianmidar5159 They are raising the pitch on some of the stadiums and blocking off the first few rows of seats to make the playing field wider. There's reports saying the att stadium in Dallas is going to be raised 15 feet. I'm guessing they will have to build the platform out of wood or something, that might bring about more problems. It's going to be interesting for sure.
That's because the tournament was not organized by FIFA. The world cup will be
I've been waiting for years to hear somebody Tired of fearing the big bad men and say the truth. I've even fantasized every once in a while about being there myself and calling things out
What amazes me, is that the US built Football (Soccer) stadiums for the world cup 94....so why aren't they using the proper grass stadiums (MLS Stadiums) for the Copa??? It's ridiculous not to use facilities that are built for this sport.
The US didn't build stadiums for the '94 World Cup. They just mostly chose stadiums that already had natural grass (including using a few large college football stadiums). The majority of MLS stadiums have a capacity of only 20,000-30,000 people and are too small to host World Cup games (FIFA wants stadiums of at least 40-60k).
@@MoTheAviator The Rose Bowl exists, we have 15 NFL stadiums with natural grass. Hardly any were used. Greedy Conmebol execs wanted NFL stadiums with turf because they are HUGE so more fans. They were told the grass wasn't going to be sitting normally because the execs went with the cheap option of putting it in days before the games.
@@dannytallmage2971ugh, crawl back to the boondocks with such backward & prejudiced thoughts
Because the NFL stadiums generally allow much more tickets to be sold because they hold many more fans. The organizers CONMEBOL were being greedy
@@dannytallmage2971 hope y’all wear adult diapers because we don’t want taxpayer funded stadiums getting brown greased. Thanks 🙏
So embarrassing the pitches here in the USA. Baseball diamonds are immaculate in all 32 parks yet we can't get one field right for Copa. May as well bring back Joe Robbie Stadium where 1/3 of the field was part baseball infield dirt.
Yea South America sucks so the US giving 30 percent effort so their lawn men and pool men can watch a girls sport is still better than anything South America can pull off.
Bielsa it's right how is it possible to host a soccer tournament when they use baseball field smh
Because Peru couldn’t get there act together.
Bielsa you are a example to follow
Sore loser!
It's embarrassing that the organizers even put sod over turf.
What about 2015 Women's????? Japan were robbed on that sticky rubber pitch
I remember so many messi haters made fun and abused when messi, scaloni and dibu complained about the state of pitch during their first game against canada in metlife. There were stupid comments like "argentina always complains", " argentina should be able to play on any thing since they are used to playing on streets" bla bla. Now the same ppl are agreeing when both bielsa and colombia complained. CONMEBOL is among the worst organisations in football. Nothing will ever change. The same thing happened in maracana a few months ago.
It’s embarrassing that my shoe shine boy thinks his opinion matters. Shiney no talkey Pedro.
1994 World Cup Pontiac Silverdome?? I think they dragged the whole field out in the Sun then back in for games. Didn't hear any complaints back then? Something changed?
@@Mike-px8rc yea we made the mistake of letting brown people get on the internet
Mike Tyson said a few years ago: “Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.” This is a classic case of the cold hard real world meeting modern day HR social media culture. Regardless of whether or not Darwin ends up getting fined and banned, the reality is anyone who actually cares about their family members would have done the exact same thing. Particularly if the police and security were doing nothing about it. This is a situation where Darwin will likely face consequences but anyone with real world reality knows that they would have done the exact same thing if their family and friends were being harassed and attacked.
/r/im14andthisisdeep
@@Photosoflife Ppl are focusing on what bielsa said as if it's just a rant when it's actually damage control to try to make waves and make the organization take some accountability and not put the whole blame on Uruguay players, specially Darwin as a scapegoat.
@javierelorza3851 yep... if he and others take bans... watch them plummet in qualifying. 6 games in sept/oct/Nov alone.
@@elche1976 and that would be a hipocrytical thing to do by CONMEBOL. Do you doubt Uruguay would still qualify? There will be 48 teams on the next world cup and Uruguay is currently 2nd out of 10 with 6 spots.
@javierelorza3851 oh, I think they roll. But look at Brazil after 6 games. 6th place. Anything can happen.
It is incredible how public opinion attacked Uruguay for going to help the family they had there
Incredible. Hypocrites
But.... there is video evidence of Uruguayans starting the fights in the stands, video evidence of Uruguayan FA officials throwing punches, bottles, cups and drink from the comfort of their VIP box and video evidence of Betancour throwing a full bottle of water that ended up hitting a member of his own staff almost knocking him unconscious and lacerating him. Kinda hypocritical to also dehumanize Colombians either implicitly or by default assumption
Well, when these “families” provoke, why feel sorry??? I blame the so called South American “passion for futbol” which is really just a big excuse for drunk violence
Because those are fake news. Theres no a single videos of his family getting attacked yet hundreds videos of Uruguayan fans starting fights
FIFA wont allow it - LOL. They have already picked huge US football stadiums instead of wonderful 60-100k seat collegiate stadiums with GRASS fields. Attendance was poor because of the greed of ticket prices and huge stadiums.
They're not going to play big soccer games in old college stadiums without real seating
Fifa will allow anything if the money is big enough. Qatar taught us that.
@@jamesbriers696 but qatar stadiums were good and the pitches were excellent. No team complained. Plus fifa has nothing to do with copa and as for 2026 WC for which fifa is responsible, the stadiums have already committed to change them to bermuda grass long before the WC begins. The problem lies with conmebol.
The cities matter more than the stadium themselves when selecting a host city. For a World Cup, a city has to be able to accommodate 50,000-60,000 tourists with thousands of available hotel rooms, mass transit infrastructure, restaurants, etc. Most folks attending college games already live within driving distance to the stadium so there isn't the same need. The surface in Tuscaloosa or South Bend might be great, but there's no way for them to ever host.
Indeed
The problems with the pitches stemmed from the fact that they laid all of this natural sod only days before matches rather than letting it settle and bed in for a couple weeks. This was due to timing restrictions with other events scheduled shortly before Copa matches. I've heard this won't be an issue for the 2026 World Cup where stadiums will be prepared weeks in advance. Pretty dumb regardless.
Makes sense. In the Euros we also had complaints about the pitch in Frankfurt, which also had an American Football game being played shortly before the start of the the tournament and the same lack of time for the grass patches to settle and connect.
Does the grass actually settle when it's placed on turf? I'm just curious because from my understanding the grass was laid on top of turf. i see no way for it to settle before the grass dies. I think they would need to remove the turf and then place the grass on soil for it to settle properly. At least that's what i think, maybe i'm wrong and the sod does settle in turf. I think another issue is the field is smaller. The copa america dimensions are equivalent to u-13 soccer fields. I'm not sure how they could fix that since they did that because some fields are just too small and can't be extended to fit the required dimensions.
@@BigSuzpekt They are going to remove parts of the stadium seating to accommodate larger fields for World Cup matches.
@@BigSuzpekt I don't know enough about it. To be honest, I don't even know if settling is the actual problem. A big issue however is definitely the patches not growing into a connected surface in time.
There were some dangerous scenes in Frankfurt with players almost settling injured.
This Cup was a shame. Those fields were not even good for a 4th level league and you have the world's best trying to play on that excuse of a pitch
lmao now ppl are talking but when argentina said the same thing during their first game against canada then all the haters started bashing them.
Keep the Copa in South America and away from the USA. Keep CONCACAF away from us as well.
i never liked the idea of a NORTH AMERICA World Cup. distances b/w cities are TOO FAR, there will be ZERO atmosphere ZERO
in that case stop watching the sport. spanish super copa is already being played in the middle east. and 203o world cup will be played in south america and in europe. after next year im done with futbol.
its still considered a girls sport by most americans
Africans should stop playing for european nations
@@Franklin-q3lAfricans should stop living in civilized countries.
@Mbappe-g2h with out them you are nothing! South America will trash you every time!
players can be injured in lose grass.
* Loose grass. * Lose game.
He is a "LOCO" because we live in a hypocrisy society. I love u Bielsa so much!
To quote Andrew Brant, “There will be lawyers.”
You guys made fun of Qatar and everyone said it was the best one ever. Pitches were great, security was top notch. Experience and food were great. The federation should fix things before the World Cup or FIFA might change the country
I have friends who went to Qatar and they say it was indeed great.
the only issue with Qatar was the slave labor
The issues with Qatar were more related to the incredible number of deaths racing to build stadiums than the quality of the tournament.
The issue with Qatar was geopolitics.
The issue with Qatar was geopolitics.
USA first world country with third world country playing fields.. hosting the world cup in baseball fields
These all looked like American Football stadiums. The vast majority of professional baseball fields are natural grass.
NFL fields, but nfl players prefer playing in turfs, we have football fields, but they’re too small for fifa who wants the most money possible.
There are 15 Stadiums in the USA with a 100,000 Plus Capacity and all Natural Grass, saying we don't have the Fields is a LIE!
NFL stadiums thank you for speaking on something you know nothing about
@@bryangonzales4198There was literally a survey a few months ago done by the NFL players' association regarding preferred playing surfaces. The result was that 92% prefer playing on high quality natural grass. Check your facts. Also this is nothing new. It has been a topic for years how players generally like playing on grass but the greedy owners prefer the cheaper turf. I'm not sure where you got the notion that NFL players want turf, but you are dead wrong.
I believe all the stadiums for the World Cup are required to have grass pitches. They just aren’t available yet. Everything else is on CONMEBOL
conmebol organised the security? conmebol made enemy fans sit together? i dont think so
@@tyciol9543 security, probably not (I’m not sure though) but CONMEBOL was in charge of ticketing so seat selection was on them too
@@tyciol9543 Yes, they have to pay for security. If they don't hire enough security, maybe to save money, then issues will happen.
Conmebol allowed the ticket sales to be run by the stadiums rather than centralizing it, which meant that the fluctuating ticket prices governed who sat where, not which country you were supporting. They, as well as the host city stadiums, are responsible for ensuring a policing and security plan that matches the type of seating arrangement and entrance/exit plan set up for that venue. The fact that both seemed under-prepared - not just here but also in other stadiums, including a colombia game I went to earlier in the tournament - shows that the lack of organization was there from the start, and everyone thought that barely any work needed to be put in once USA was selected a year and a half ago, since the 2016 tournament went relatively smoothly.
@@tyciol9543 I hope you know that security payments are done by conmebol. Maybe those scammers didn't pay enough money to get the required security. Why blame US? the same thing happened in maracana during arg vs brazil a few months ago. Lol conmebol is so greedy and corrupt that they can't even arrange suites for the families of every team. Team members had to pay from their own pocket to book suites.
La Copa América debe organizarse en Sudamérica, en cada nación. Lo mismo que las copas de Centroamérica y del norte, por el bien del Fútbol.👏⚽️
Tienes razon
These fields hurt teams that play like Argentina and Colombia more than others.
This. 💯
Colombia 🎉
hurts good teams like Argentina. Colombia does not play football - they just defend.
@@ahmedzakikhan7639penalty shot for messi 🍃
@@ahmedzakikhan7639 lmao you arab (arabs cant play football) colombia has had the most posesion on average out of any other team. They play with the ball. Last game was unique since they were down to 10 man all second half
the reason seats were empty at uruguay and colombia is because of ticket master’s predatory conduct and resale of tickets on their own website making ticket scalping far too easy
What a sht show, america is not ready at all
I think you mean COMNEBOL is not ready
Agree
Como uruguayo siento el orgullo de tener al técnico argentino Marcelo Bielsa como DT de nuestra selección.
Si bien su planteo no supo contrarrestar el buen desarrollo de juego de Colombia, que ganó merecidamente, tiene la honestidad de reconocerlo y la honestidad de decir lo que la mayoría calla.
Desde el primer día se vio que las canchas y las televisaciones eran un desastre porque ignoran qué es EL FÚTBOL.
Saludos.
In 2 years time the US is hosting the World Cup, but don't forget 2 other countries are also involved in Canada & Mexico. So it will be very interesting to see how different each country handles their responsibilities in the tournament. I'm from Vancouver where some of the games will be held & the city is no stranger to hosting big events. The Winter Olympics in 2010 was arguably one of the best Winter Olympic experiences in years. Very interested to see how my city organizes World Cup games compared to other cities involved.
Going to be a recipe for disaster
As an Argentinian, I think I'll only attend a WC game if it is played in Canada (or in Seattle). I had the pleasure of visiting your country (and also your city), and I loved every second I was there.
Didn't you have a riot after a hockey game? Twice?
Copa America should never play in USA . USA is not ready for this Tourment
It’s CONMEBOL’s fault. They have to separate fans.
Calling USA "America" in the "Copa America" context is so blatantly ignorant
Don't sell beers
Don't buy beer if you can't handle it, commie
Bravo Bielsa we demand respect
The pitches for copa were all horrendous and the stadiums tooo narrow
Take it up with Peru.
Security in America? Lol
US does have nice pitches across the country but US Soccer is greedy and wants that high price ticket money.
Conmebol is the host of this tournament, not US Soccer.
@@joegoss30 US Soccer was also involved.
Criticism not only of the organizing but of the system on football itself. And if europeans don't want to acknowledge the criticism cause they dislike Bielsa, wait until you see the disaster on 2026
I don’t think bielsa was talking about euro but moreso the organizers of USA and copa America.
The fact that they didn’t have fans separated eso knowing copa America rivalries just screams greed and incompetence.
@@XXSTEAKYXX i didn't mean he was talking about euro... today. He did so last week when he spoke about brazilian Sao Paulo in 1992 having the likes of cafu and several wc winners and today them all not being able to turn 20 playing in south america b4 a european club pays the (usually low) realease clause. He's talking about how business and money has taken over football and every or any answer that jeopardizes the profitability of decision makers makes you a target of (Sporting) threats. That applies both in America and Europe. Or go ask Everton how they feel about their FFP 10 point deduction while man city has money on every possible authorities pockets.
@@XXSTEAKYXX and i definetly agree that AT LEAST the family members of Uruguay players should have a specific area to keep them from this kind of situations. Moreover i think having stands for each team adds to a more colorful atmosphere were each teams fans can sing along together and not be as separated as they are currently
Si, nos sacaron hasta el poder organizar el mundo de Fútbol!
Siendo, que el 1er campeose hizo en Uruguay, en 1930, conmemorando los 100 años de nuestra Constitución.
Pues, queríamos hacerlo entte Los países rioplatenses, y ni bola nos dueron.
Vergonzoso en todo, Fifa y Conmebol.
Aunque para organizar el Mundial del 2030, Uruguay y Argentina No estan Preparados para ser Sede, si en Usa se quejan de Seguridad, no quiero pensar lo que sera en los Barrios de Argentina, y los Estadios tampoco estan para recibir demasiada gente y menos dan Garantia de Seguridad
Soy uruguaya y eso no me interesa. Más importante es el juego limpio. Por otra parte es un costo enorme que no todos queremos pagar
Dinoruguay
pero vos te pensás que para organizar estos eventos lo único que hay que poner es el estadio?? dejate de joder mirá que en el 2018 no pudimos celebrar un superclasico por la violencia y la mala seguridad que hubo y ahora querés organizar un mundial
@@MrJuan051996proudly
This Copa America was really a disaster. Poor security in certain locations, horrible pitches , lousy broadcasting (B-rated commentators on FS1 and Fox networks) and unjustifiable treatment to teams. Shame on everyone involved.
I remember the beatles classic, "all you need is grass"😂
Don't underestimate football matches. In my country, at least 3 to 4 platoons of police or soldiers are deployed to secure just 1 football match.
Bielsa's pockets are full of FACTS.
Bielsa predicted the future before the chaos in Miami
I get the quality of football compared to the euros was better but the atmosphere is what makes the game hype, Copa America matches felt like your average friendly, the vibe at the euros makes it feel like a high level tournament match
USA focusing on cricket now. Them aint bothered about good pitch/field. Lol. 😂😂😅😅
Hence why they've been grouped from Copa America.
The worst copa America ever.
Most players WEAR "Screw Ins" on Natural Grass. But a lot of fields are fake grass Turf to save money on Watering etc.. 2 very different surfaces and 2 very different types of soccer shoes.! Most of the time players in USA never ever wear "Screw Ins".
Marcelo discusses the bad handling of the games, because he loses. Next time will be fine.
Bad handling of the games? Thats all you got from it? 🤦🏻♂️
its very weird that a lot of these games and tournys are being played in US soil, always. I understand money is a factor but there are other countries that can host tournaments. Its just so absurd, copa america, copa oro, liga mx vs mls. Like wth?!
Even the fields measurements in these stadiums are different than the rest of the world soccer stadiums. Well said Bielsa we are all with you, the organization should be sanctioned for not protect the players families
ESPN really needs to purchase the rights to more international football tournaments. Their commentary and reporting teams are EXCELLENT. Their coverage of football could really blow up and be a good thing for them. They could share the rights between ABC and ESPN and use the same team. These guys are just awesome.
USA is out of it's league hosting these worldwide tournaments.
USA hosted the World Cup in 1994 and it was the most successful World Cup for attendance.
Another internet idiot who doesn’t know what they’re talking about
"If people don't go watch Colombia Uruguay?" Is buddy alright? Did he watch the game or saw the stats? The 75,000 capacity stadium was 95% full lol.
Perhaps but other big games barely had half the stadium filled. Mistake having these matches in Nevada and California. Most people who watch this tournament outside of South America are on the east coast
dont try to analyze what bielsa says he is just crying cause he cant accept uruguay has been less than Colombia for the last decade
Inconsistencies with the reffing for the tournament should be addressed
What a difference between ESPN and the Argentina version of ESPN which did not have a proper discussion on the points made by Bielsa, just like we see on this video. Well done ESPN FC!
I agree with Bielsa. But people are attacking the US now because of one incident, that CONMEBOL could've avoided by not being greedy and reserving suites in the stadiums, which every major stadium in the US has, and put the team's families there, but they prefer to sell those seats to sponsors, businessman, and millionaires to make more money. Also, remember what happened in Wembley at the last EURO final? Thousands of people rushed through one of the gates to get into the match illegally, which got ugly and could've gotten worse. The semifinal between ENG v NED there was bar fights and fights around the stadium between English and Dutch fans. Argentina v Brazil in Brazil during qualifiers. Copa Libertadores, there's danger of melees virtually every match. Im not saying there is no blame on the security of th stadium, but CONMEBOL as organizers should breif these entities on the type of fan they gonna deal with, if the team's families are gonna be on the stands, let the authorities know they're there to keep them safe and so on. But like Burley said yesterday, the organizers always think money first, players last. Also on a side note. If I'm a father, why would I let my wife with my newborn child be on the stands around opposition fans? Why would I let my family with small children be there? Knowing how contentious and dangerous it gets in the stands in football matches, I dont know what went through the player's heads to let that happen.
The US must bear the lion's share of the blame. It's held on US soil.
You cannot turn around and point the finger at Conmebol when you're the one laying the pitches and organising the security.
The players families dont need to be in private suites, they just needed to be somewhere where there wasnt mixed fans from either team. Player families at the euros dont sit in private suites. This is on the usa stadium owners not conmebol.
@@appl2597 I agree with you about the pitches. I did say they don't share blame. CONMEBOL is the organizer. They could've done a better job at preparing for these problems, which are normal in South American stadiums during qualifiers. We haven't seen this during the Gold Cup and are held here every time. Nations League is held here every time, and it doesn't see any of this. Why do we see it now that CONMEBOL is organizing the event?
@@tyciol9543 Why is it only on the USA stadium owner's hands? CONMEBOL and the national teams provide the players with tickets for their families. I understand they want the families to be close to the players for support and to celebrate as soon as the game ends if they win, but this isn't common in the US games. The family of the players in the US sports are seated in suites, where they are separated naturally from fans and from harm or are seated in a "VIP" area where they aren't exposed to harm from common fans that could act a different way. I didn't say security shouldn't be held accountable, but CONMEBOL knows how contentious and dangerous it gets in football matches in South America. They should've at least told the security that they should provide extra safety for the families or place them in suites for safety. They thought that just because they're in the US, fans weren't gonna act like they do in South America. Sports fans in the US aren't separated like in Europe or the rest of the world because there isn't this "life and death" atmosphere or stakes to sports in the US. So fans here aren't on pins and needles and aren't prone to fighting because of a frustrating loss or a bad game. CONMEBOL should have told security, "Hey, these fans aren't your usual American fans. Things can get contentious. Make sure to have more security around the families or separate the fans." But they failed to do that. You can say that security failed, but CONMEBOL also failed to provide context and warn these stadium security on how dangerous football matches could get with passionate fans.
@@appl2597nah comebol bears the entirety of the blame. The last thing US wants is more loud and stinky mestizo coming to our country. We felt sorry for South America because it was clear not one country in South America is wealthy and stable enough to host this silly 3rd rate tournament and offered to hold it here. We didn’t say we were to going to try hard to host it.
Bielsa is trying to save his players from getting lengthy suspensions. He still needs to take Uruguay to the World Cup, but if Nunez and others get a long ban, it may become difficult for them to qualify. He's deliberately putting all the blames on Conmebol and USA so that everyone points their finger at the organizer and the host, and leaves his players alone. Don't forget that Uruguayan players are the ones who started the fight in the middle of the pitch when the game was over, and it was all initiated by that classless Suarez.
You're completely right, no one is arguing that the condition of the fields could have been better but he's acting as if he hasn't coached around the world in all kinds of conditions. At the end of the day, it was his players that started the brawl and drunk fans from both sides began fighting in the stands, whether some family members where in the vicinity of the brawl and felt threatened that still doesn't excuse his players from climbing up and start throwing punches. They're trying to play the victim card so they don't get punished much.
I just listened to 20 minutes of the interview and jeez Bielsa! I highly recommend it. So much light shed on known issues.
One point he mentioned in the conference and that is worth remarking: the sudden support from Conmebol to the US started right after the Fifa-gate. Makes you wonder how many current Conmebol Leaders have been given some sort of immunity in exchange for favours.
Many, usa did a “coupe” in football/fifa and set up people that would favor them.
Is the US over-rated?
Maybe by Americans. In the rest of the world, the US isn't looked at as being that strong. The US can't even beat Panama on home soil. Canada looks stronger. In ELO rankings, the US is number 31, Canada 32 & Panama 38. In FIFA rankings, the US is ranked #11. There is no way the US is #11 in the world. Based on the FIFA rankings, yes, they are highly over rated.
Blaming others for your own actions is overrated.
Absolutely! 💯 % overrated..
the empire is rapidly dying.
The country or the team or both 😂
Uruguay scored 0 goals in 180 minutes in their Copa knockout games. That's what Bielsa was really frustrated about and trying to distract for.
you know nothing about football, much less about Bielsa and absolutely cero human decency
@@bikenergy6688 I merely stated the facts. Bielsa's team underperformed (certainly not the first time that's happened) and he threw a hissy fit (also not the first time)
@@stephenmason9527We tried so hard but we faced strong teams since we started the Copa America.
Nuñez disappointed me a lot
@@stephenmason9527Did you watch the final? Was a completely mess, Bielsa was right.
Bielsa is brave enough to magnify this issue & shabby conditions for such world class players who shouldn't be put through this .
If it was security and playing surfaces for the NFL, things would be totally different. Football is still a second class sport in the US.
It frustrates me that CONMEBOL/CONCACAF have treated this tournament like a money making traveling circus in too many cities instead of a serious competition. Host cities should be actual host cities. Where the venue is under the control of the organizers weeks in advance. It’s a 16 team tourney you don’t even need that many host cities. Instead they went cheap and have run this the way CONCACAF runs the Gold Cup (which logistically sucks) and indeed a circus has resulted.
We’ve had the world cup in the US before and everything was fine. Everyone relax.
standards are different now. back in 93-94 players used to smoke and drink at halftime, now they’re getting vitamin shots
@@PhanoftheShow what about the Copa America in 2016 there were no issues as well
Consider the possibility that USA 1994 got lucky.
Our best defense wasn’t stadium security… it was the expense of getting here and getting around.
With more sites for 2026, with potential complacency on the part of American authorities (which I’m darn sure contributed to these Copa issues), and really a lack of recognition from some people on Messi’s selling power, there’s a risk to 2026.
Also… the fan separation issue? A couple US cities have been sued because this denied access to larger groups of fans… and lost. This ought to be re-examined for 2026, but I suspect organizers here are really skittish about that.
Hopefully the complacency has diminished after this last week.
Corrupt biased referees, disgusting immature classless fans, no security or control.. This tournament has been as low as it can get.
At the end of every single soccer competition losers argue and winners celebrate. Cheers from Rio de Janeiro-Brasil.
South American fans sure display some savage behaviour.
Interesting, only stop in South America?
Are you familiar with soccer at all? Yes. It is crazy, but please include Europe.
Your sister is savage bro😅
@@henryortega8893 ya, but I think that Europeans in general are more racially sensitive than the South Americans.
@@krm7559 Could you please explain with more word? What do you mean? The problem was based on race?
It's South America, they don't come to kill children in schools!! Tell me about savages.
Que grande Bielsa. Ahora en ves de hablar de como Uruguay quedo eliminado, jugando muy mal, poniendo jugadores que no juegan en su posición, con un jugador mas van a hablar de la conferencia de prensa de Bielsa que ahora es un Héroe. Jajajajajajajaja tenes que cerrar el estadio papa, es un GENIO!!!!!!!!!! Jajajajajajajajaja
Ya lo hizo en la conferencia anterior. Acá le preguntaron por eso y bueno. Se dijo lo que se tenía que decir.
al fin alguien que no le lame el trasero a ese viejo ardido, no soporta el hecho de que colombia le hizo un hijo a uruguay como ya es costumbre
I guess Bielsa didn’t have any complaints until Uruguay lost.
Firstly, the tournament clearly has had issues with quality of pitch and officiating. Partly a fair complaint - but I don't think the USSF selected the officials. Secondly, the hypocrisy of some of these South American coaches is bewildering - their stadiums require fully armed military personnel to maintain order. They all got their big payday so let's not pretend this tournament is anything else but a golden calf and cash payout for the participating Federations. Thirdly, notice the timing of the complaints - almost immediately following the team's loss and elimination - conveniently disingenuous.
That’s right! If it requires fully armed military then so be it. I rather have that than what happened in Colombia Uruguay game. Also, South Americans have different sectors assigned to each side, and don’t sell alcohol during the games. Even entrance doors are separated between sides. So, even with our “inferior infrastructure” we are more prepared than US for this game.
Buelsa rules
This Uruguay coach are talking rubbish they play 10 against 11 and they couldn’t win the game. Now they are complain about the pitch rubbish
dirty uruguayans, but when suarez won vs Ghana playing the dirtiest tactics possible they were proud and happy
He never complaine for losing he aceppted That.The pitches are rubbihs.😊
whinning at a press conference about things that will never change, like corruption or foul play. It has always been like that since the beggining of football as an association and will always be like that, specially conmebol. and as he said, he always knew things were like that, but decided to rant 40 mins about conmebol casually after his team just losses (he also said uruguay was a bigger team than colombia) when in recent years, the only big world cup achievement theyve got (south africa 2010) was acquired by employing dirty tactics and foul play against Ghana
Hope you all talk about Marche’s masterclass interview just shredding everyone and representing Canada like a g.
Appreciate your comments Shaka, BUT , 2016 was a long time ago and America is in serious decline. They like to put on a good show, the American organizers BUT, it's all about the show and NOT about the product. The Yankees don't care, and no one accepts responsibility
BIelsa is ONE THOUSAND percent correct. Soccer is becoming a joke.
Honesy, if they want a true Copa America and have all the Americas involved, host it in Mexico cause they will do a better job. Imagine a Copa America final in the legendary Azteca Stadium. Stay away from Canada and the US.
stay away from countries that call football ..soccer.
I think they should hold the tournaments in Canada in February, just looking for any advantage. Plus it's not fair to say stay away from Canada just because it was bad in the USA, we deserve a fair chance to screw it up too.
@@laurendamos6651Do you even have 12 suitable stadiums?
I still scratch my head about Moncton for 2015 WWC. Never mind all-turf.
@@PCSPounder if it's in Canada in February it wouldn't matter if the pitch is turf or grass it be frozen solid, and yes we could have 12 locations. However all I'm saying is it's not fair to say stay away from Canada when we had nothing to do with the Copa event except show we're currently the best team from CONCACAF.
I can' t believe how bad organized this cup was. The security; the grass; the prices omg !
I feel one of the main issues with the way we hosted this event in the usa is how many different pitches how many different locations were used make it a central location moving it around to 20 cities isnt a good idea
I like how everyone here loves complaining. Here who in these comments from America? Be honest.
All stadiums in the NFL like the Bank of America stadium in Charlotte, will be switched to Natural grass per National Football league.
As for the organizing. Idk who was coordinating it. I didnt recall any issue in 2016. The fight outbreak and all this. I love everyone blaming the United States. We have nothing to do with it. This was with Uruguay and Colombia. Those federations need to answer to this.
This is CONMEBOL that pulled this tornament from Ecuador for the money. This was dissapointing. I dont remember 2016 was this bad.
They can have it hosted elsewhere with everyone complaining.
The security (or lack of) and the seating organisation kinda was on the US
@@tyciol9543no it isn’t.
@@dannytallmage2971 So they hired security and police from south america and flew them in?
@@tyciol9543 they hired a bunch of mestizo midgets. Don’t hire your cousins next time.
Well if Nunez punches like hes sho ots everyone was safe then
Marcelo Biesla, always at the highest. Respect professor!!
Soccer is meant to be played on established grass fields not turf or grass over turf. If the USA wants a quality world cup, the organizers must establish grass fields well in advance of the tournament
That's already been agreed upon between FIFA and the NFL stadiums that the stadiums with artificial turf will be converted to natural grass. I believe that most of them will be permanently converted to grass, but I'm not sure. I know that the Mercedes Benz stadium in Atlanta, Georgia will only be temporarily grass, but I assume that for the World Cup, it will be in place much more than 3 days in advance.
This was a Conmebol organized tournament. The World Cup will be run by US Soccer. Please stop the stupidity with these comments.
Uhh is was co-hosted with Concacaf.... who are also hosting the World Cup....
@@jdm1029 Uhhhhhh, no. Conmebol is running this tournament. The US, Canada, and Mexico will be running the World Cup. The Copa America is being held in the US, but the US is not co-hosting. Again, this is a 100% Conmebol run tournament.
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Uhh is was co-hosted with Concacaf.... who are also hosting the World Cup....
the only thing conmebol organised is how much money they would get lol. Do you think the dire fields and bad security was conmebol?
@@tyciol9543Where do you think the money for the fields and security come from? LOL. Conmebol simply got greedy. LOL. This is on them.
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the only thing conmebol organised is how much money they would get lol. Do you think the dire fields and bad security was conmebol?
@@tyciol9543 Where do you think the money for the fields and security came from? Conmebol got greedy.
Shaka, our security should have planned for 3rd world country fans. Our bad!
Something that isn't being talked about enough is that The Clubs World Cup with the most well known teams in the world will take place in 2025 in the US. Are they even prepared for this? I mean many teams have fans that are just as passionate to their clubs as they are to their country... It will be a huge event too
Bielsa shook the hornet's nest. Nice!
Argentina will win copa america and Ronaldo fans will cry rigged again. The pain continues after 18-12-22
@MrKaravaj
Or people can just acknowledge that Messi and Ronaldo are legends of the game and two fantastic players. Ronaldo and Messi are not only not the same age but they’ve never even played the same positions. Something all this constant Messi and Ronaldo comparisons constantly ignore. Just enjoy both players while they are around instead of all this belittling nonsense. They are both legends and both have a ton of respect for one another. Leave it at that.
@@Photosoflife I totally agree with you. However - I really cant stand Ronaldo fans who say rigged all time and make up excuses
Who’s cares, that’s not the subject on hand get off of players nuts
@@Vance-Stronghold The subject was copa america so
"In 94 there was no problem". Difference is players didn't complain then.
I WANT TO START MY OWN TOURNAMENT IN NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA IT WILL BE CALLED CONQUEST.
the cricket world cup was also hosted in the USA and the pitches were described as being bad.
The final started an hour later. People with valid tickets did not watch the game, a complete non sense. Also, a small stadium for the final. Zero sense.