for you folks that happen to be watching this, and don't know, very few "Horse Trainers" actually COMMUNICATE with horses....they mainly just force the horse to do things, and call it training.....Pat is actually TALKING to the horse in the ONLY way they truly understand....and that is the very best way to get the horse to DO something....thanks Pat for caring enough to share your knowledge with us all....OnWard....
You are a good teacher in that you explain each body movement thoroughly for both the rider and horse understandably. And then there’s the wisdom part of “proof-in-the-putin”, I believe this speaks for itself about ya, you convey well your vocation of what you know. But again back to teaching you are good, most shmos like me just gotta get used to the often contorted body moves and become consistent in new ways - it’s an amazing journey. Thanks for offering what you know, I don’t know many teachers who are so straight up thorough (succinct in good ways)
Thanks! Just want to say you are my “go to” when I want to learn a better way to communicate with my horse. Love all your videos and storytelling. There is always something of value gained by spending time with you and Deb.
Thanks for breaking this down. Love your method of communication. Simple and direct. Makes so much sense to me as a novice rider. Wish I lived down the road from you & Deb!
i love your videos, frankness and wisdom. What you teach is also so beneficial to 'English' riding too as it all has the same meaning, softness, responsiveness, body energy vs pulling and riding the face and think your horse is collected and trained. Don't get me started on that type of hideous riding!
My pony is the size of your mule. Mostly Apache mustang with a Shetland grandma, she's fabulous and really appreciates when I try to ride like this. Also perfect for my 5-year-old granddaughter, I am so lucky to have her.
So good to be with you today. Lost my husband 100 days ago and lost my mind. Got a 15 yr old mustang from a death in the community. I'm gonna be watching more now
I really appreciate these videos, they’ve been of immense help with my horsemanship. I work at a trail stable & most of the horses look like handsome did during his last segment, head upside down, gapping at mouth & swinging his hindquarters around. Unfortunately fixing these problems is a very low priority, I get it because it’s a business & we aren’t working cows or anything like that but seems like we aren’t giving the horses a fair shake … the horse I guide off is in collection, backs on a loose rein and rides with some dignity. Guess I can only work on the one I have time to work on. Anyway thanks for your videos, hopefully the fire season isn’t too bad out there for y’all. God blesd
Most jobs feel like this at some point. Do the best you can with what you have. Mount folks on horses that won't hurt them. Take their bits away if you're allowed.
Rather embarrassing, my mare has been doing great with this exercise of backing up, loose rein using the missing link snaffle, listening to skeleton and body. I give her a nice break, she stops on my deep breath out, take things slow with her…the issue then lies with her understanding when I ask her to move FORWARD a bit…she seems to think I’m still asking her to walk back. I take legs off, lift my body forward, she still tries to keep backing up. Any suggestion on what I might be missing to help connect the dots would be appreciated! Want a horse that will go forward too 😂
On the Backing...Do you find horses pick up their feet better going backwards with their heads up ? I find my horse drags his feet backing up. but he gets behind the bit too...
I was wondering if you would share some of your thoughts on thoroughbreds. I have one that I am retraining, part of what has been a huge challenge is that they start out super stiff and unbalanced coming off the track.
Each horse is different. In our world, we don't expect a bridle horse to be finished until he's 10. As far as getting to the stage of riding straight up in the bridle, it's generally in the 5th to 6th year.
Hey Pat and Deb! Where can I find a good nose band that you used on tigre? Can't seem to find one online, can Pat make one for me? Of course I'll pay for it! Brian from Old West Arizona :)
Hi Pat and Deb:) I ordered the transition bit from your store and was wondering about the cricket. Should you hear the cricket when in discipline? I don’t think you should because I have been under the impression that the horse has to pick up the bit and be interested in the slightest of signals. The cricket will engage when the horse is in relief mode after having been drilled on something or at rest or at a nice easy walk through the countryside? A friend and I were having this conversation and she seemed to think that the horse will play with the cricket even in a disciplined maneuver. I said how could that be if the horse has picked up the bit. She asked what I meant by the horse picking up the bit. I asked her what she thought I meant and she didn’t have an answer. I asked her if she thought the bit should be rattling around in the horses mouth. She’s a dressage rider so I don’t know what she’s envisioning in her mind in regards to bit action, and I ride western and have shown in western for many years. I know that I don’t know anything because if I thought I did then I’d been fairly arrogant so I did not pursue the subject any further. There are so many opinions on this stuff that it’s very often a big sea of confusion. I’ve been sticking to what I have been coached on by a man very similar to what you teach and he had your tone and attitude too. He got my mare to a level where she and I have been having a wonderful time together. She panicked when he tried to transition her from the shanked jointed snaffle bit to a ported bit so we decided to leave her at the snaffle bit level. I’m sorry now that I didn’t question him on this further at the time. I was happy with the way she went so that’s where we’ve been for about 14 or 15 years. She’s 19 now and just as lovely as she’s always been. We haven’t been coached for about 4 years. I think she won’t mind the new bit at all but I’ll hang it first and then see what she thinks. Is this a good idea or am I heading for dangerous waters? Perhaps I should have a professional coach come in and help anyway? So I’m sorry about this long message but I do so much respect your experience and knowledge. I wish I lived just down the lane from you guys but I’m a couple thousand miles from you and my beloved old coach.
The most polite and correct way to ask for collection and backing is with the principle of bend using a hackamore and or a snaffle. No roping needs to be done until you have ridden two handed for at least 2 years doing cowboy work. Just me talking.
We spend about 90% of our time covering country outside an arena. The remaining 10% is spent teaching the horse to handle off of the rider's body so we can get a job done when necessary.
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for you folks that happen to be watching this, and don't know, very few "Horse Trainers" actually COMMUNICATE with horses....they mainly just force the horse to do things, and call it training.....Pat is actually TALKING to the horse in the ONLY way they truly understand....and that is the very best way to get the horse to DO something....thanks Pat for caring enough to share your knowledge with us all....OnWard....
You are a good teacher in that you explain each body movement thoroughly for both the rider and horse understandably. And then there’s the wisdom part of “proof-in-the-putin”, I believe this speaks for itself about ya, you convey well your vocation of what you know. But again back to teaching you are good, most shmos like me just gotta get used to the often contorted body moves and become consistent in new ways - it’s an amazing journey. Thanks for offering what you know, I don’t know many teachers who are so straight up thorough (succinct in good ways)
Thanks! Just want to say you are my “go to” when I want to learn a better way to communicate with my horse. Love all your videos and storytelling. There is always something of value gained by spending time with you and Deb.
Hello 👋 how are you doing………?
I'm thinking this is one of your best. Thanks
Hello 👋 how are you doing………?
Thank you for the wisdom. Great video. Tabor City, NC
Thanks for breaking this down. Love your method of communication. Simple and direct. Makes so much sense to me as a novice rider. Wish I lived down the road from you & Deb!
Great concise information that really helps. Thanks!
i love your videos, frankness and wisdom. What you teach is also so beneficial to 'English' riding too as it all has the same meaning, softness, responsiveness, body energy vs pulling and riding the face and think your horse is collected and trained. Don't get me started on that type of hideous riding!
My pony is the size of your mule. Mostly Apache mustang with a Shetland grandma, she's fabulous and really appreciates when I try to ride like this. Also perfect for my 5-year-old granddaughter, I am so lucky to have her.
Excellent video, thank you so much ❤😊
Great information. Thank you!
Pat - Thanks for the update, my filly is coming along GREAT . For me it’s a wonderful way to get a Safe Partner👏🏻🤠🐴
Brilliant.
That's a great technique working on their handle inside those poles. I'm definitely going to start using that one.
So good to be with you today. Lost my husband 100 days ago and lost my mind. Got a 15 yr old mustang from a death in the community. I'm gonna be watching more now
Sending our prayers your way.
Praying for you ❤
Always informative watching ur videos Pat. I like the slow and steady aspect of it. Thank you.
Great video
Thanks!
I Appreciate you Pat and your lessons 💥👏🏻🐴👏🏻🤠💥
Hello 👋 how are you doing………?
I really appreciate these videos, they’ve been of immense help with my horsemanship. I work at a trail stable & most of the horses look like handsome did during his last segment, head upside down, gapping at mouth & swinging his hindquarters around. Unfortunately fixing these problems is a very low priority, I get it because it’s a business & we aren’t working cows or anything like that but seems like we aren’t giving the horses a fair shake … the horse I guide off is in collection, backs on a loose rein and rides with some dignity. Guess I can only work on the one I have time to work on. Anyway thanks for your videos, hopefully the fire season isn’t too bad out there for y’all. God blesd
Most jobs feel like this at some point. Do the best you can with what you have. Mount folks on horses that won't hurt them. Take their bits away if you're allowed.
It's always fun to watch someone that can "talk" to the animals.
Maybe your channel needs a new name? Dr. Doolittle?
Rather embarrassing, my mare has been doing great with this exercise of backing up, loose rein using the missing link snaffle, listening to skeleton and body. I give her a nice break, she stops on my deep breath out, take things slow with her…the issue then lies with her understanding when I ask her to move FORWARD a bit…she seems to think I’m still asking her to walk back. I take legs off, lift my body forward, she still tries to keep backing up. Any suggestion on what I might be missing to help connect the dots would be appreciated! Want a horse that will go forward too 😂
On the Backing...Do you find horses pick up their feet better going backwards with their heads up ? I find my horse drags his feet backing up. but he gets behind the bit too...
I was wondering if you would share some of your thoughts on thoroughbreds. I have one that I am retraining, part of what has been a huge challenge is that they start out super stiff and unbalanced coming off the track.
Hi Pat, roughly speaking, how long does it take to create a bridle horse? I expect it depends on each horse?
Each horse is different. In our world, we don't expect a bridle horse to be finished until he's 10. As far as getting to the stage of riding straight up in the bridle, it's generally in the 5th to 6th year.
Hey Pat and Deb! Where can I find a good nose band that you used on tigre? Can't seem to find one online, can Pat make one for me? Of course I'll pay for it! Brian from Old West Arizona :)
Awesome
The army didn't work for you? I'm shocked! ☺
Hi Pat and Deb:) I ordered the transition bit from your store and was wondering about the cricket. Should you hear the cricket when in discipline? I don’t think you should because I have been under the impression that the horse has to pick up the bit and be interested in the slightest of signals. The cricket will engage when the horse is in relief mode after having been drilled on something or at rest or at a nice easy walk through the countryside? A friend and I were having this conversation and she seemed to think that the horse will play with the cricket even in a disciplined maneuver. I said how could that be if the horse has picked up the bit. She asked what I meant by the horse picking up the bit. I asked her what she thought I meant and she didn’t have an answer. I asked her if she thought the bit should be rattling around in the horses mouth. She’s a dressage rider so I don’t know what she’s envisioning in her mind in regards to bit action, and I ride western and have shown in western for many years. I know that I don’t know anything because if I thought I did then I’d been fairly arrogant so I did not pursue the subject any further. There are so many opinions on this stuff that it’s very often a big sea of confusion. I’ve been sticking to what I have been coached on by a man very similar to what you teach and he had your tone and attitude too. He got my mare to a level where she and I have been having a wonderful time together. She panicked when he tried to transition her from the shanked jointed snaffle bit to a ported bit so we decided to leave her at the snaffle bit level. I’m sorry now that I didn’t question him on this further at the time. I was happy with the way she went so that’s where we’ve been for about 14 or 15 years. She’s 19 now and just as lovely as she’s always been. We haven’t been coached for about 4 years. I think she won’t mind the new bit at all but I’ll hang it first and then see what she thinks. Is this a good idea or am I heading for dangerous waters? Perhaps I should have a professional coach come in and help anyway? So I’m sorry about this long message but I do so much respect your experience and knowledge. I wish I lived just down the lane from you guys but I’m a couple thousand miles from you and my beloved old coach.
Why is it that some professional trainers and riders want the horse's head real low? Like in reining horses?
Because that's what wins competitions.
The most polite and correct way to ask for collection and backing is with the principle of bend using a hackamore and or a snaffle. No roping needs to be done until you have ridden two handed for at least 2 years doing cowboy work. Just me talking.
I think sometimes these horseman spend too much time talking, going backwards, sideways, and not going anywhere.
We spend about 90% of our time covering country outside an arena. The remaining 10% is spent teaching the horse to handle off of the rider's body so we can get a job done when necessary.