The Rise and Fall of the Greatest Dutch heavy fighter - The Fokker G.I
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2019
- The story of the Dutch Fokker G.I heavy twin-engined fighter aircraft, an aircraft that had a short life compared to other 'famous' aircraft from World War II like the Supermarine Spitfire or the P-47 Thunderbolt.
The G.I had a lot of potential, but because few G.Is were available, and the overwhelming power of the Luftwaffe there was no real chance of turning the tide of the German invasion in May 1940.
Because of this the life of the G.I was pretty short and we never could experience its real power in other battles. The Fokker G.I remains pretty unknown compared to all other fighters of the war, but it is a plane that will not be easily forgotten here in the Netherlands.
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My grandfather was killed at Waalhaven on 10 may. He and his crew saw Germans flying past them. From that moment he thought: this isn't good, they started pushing the planes back into the hangars were they towed them out, because the would fly that day. But the Germans turned around and bombed and shoot the airbase and planes. So they killed him due flying bomb parts. He was burried with a mate of him at Krooswijk cementary (Rotterdam). That took place in those early hours of 10 may. I think that the planes from Waalhaven were destroyed and didn't took action. What i have read somewhere noted: after a few days they managed to fly a G1 to the UK. Not a year.
Nice for making this.
Interesting sotry
@@kolex3713 Thanks
Je opa was een held ff Nederlands onder elkaar❤️
@@tijlstoker8400 dankjewel. Het was mijn over over groot opa. Mijn overgrootopa was ook vliegtuig monteur alleen bij Fokker en KLM!
The G1's actually did take off from Waalhaven, however the G1s at Bergen militairy airport in Noord-Holland were all damaged by the Germans and could not be put in action. My grandfather used to work for Fokker before the war, during the second world war he had to work for Fokker (then unfortunately run by the Germans) in Amsterdam Noord , and he continued to work for Fokker after WWII.
My father used to tell me about this aircraft, being a Dutchman he was very proud about this peace of engineering.
A sad end to a good aircraft....
De vlucht naar Engeland was oorspronkelijk gepland met Hidde Leegstra, Piet Vos en mijn vader Gerben Sonderman.
Mijn vader wou niet naar Engeland vliegen voordat zijn vrouw bevallen was (31-08-1941 Gerby Sonderman). De dag dat zij vluchtten zei mijn vader al : dit is De dag om te vluchten. En zo geschiedde het.
The one that got away to England looks like the basis for the P-61's specifications that they gave to Northrop with its' fuselage configuration with the rear manned position.
Not really. The Black Widow design was driven by tyre requirements for radar operation, range, and armament
4:28 Hidde Leegstra - Tjerk Hidde Leegstra (Surabaya, January 27, 1912 - Algarve, October 23, 1980) was a Dutch aviator. He was a lieutenant pilot with the Royal Netherlands Air Force and test pilot with Fokker.
Nice video BTW
Greetings from the Netherlands/Holland
You should do a vid on what happened to Tjerk Hidde Leegstra.
Geniaal dat er ook weer wat ouderwetse fietsen in de luchtbasis stonden
Echt typisch nederlandse basis
The G1 certainly made a good account of itself in such a brief overwhelming assault by Nazi Germany - as did the Dutch armed forces, generally - though massively outnumbered. Also the resistance within the Netherlands - both armed and through worker strikes, sabotage - they never gave up , and they kept a candle of hope burning. Careless of Britain to neglect the example of the G1 kept here.
Yes, we were rather busy at the time old chap.
No time to act like a museum for a single aircraft when thousands where used in a very hot war.
A truly beautiful aircraft, and the sound, wonderful!
oh man...that was a great story. I never knew that plane existed.
After the war, the old factory at Waalhaven that belonged to aircraft manufacturer Koolhoven, was converted into a school, the (Havenvakschool) that i attended, preparing young men for work in the docks of Rotterdam. The hallway in the school always had photographs of the old airfield. While everyone else walked by without even noticing, i was always mesmerized by the old glory of the airfield.
mad respect...i love learning new things
Amazing, please more ww2 Dutch military subjects
Thank you, interesting to see, keep up the great work!
what a nice piece, about an excellent otherwise- 'forgotten' aircraft... looked like it would have ben an excellent aircraft to have been available, at that early stage in the war.
Also, sad to hear about those brave Hollanders trying to get into the battle, only to be bombed on the ground...BTW, my father went to Holland in 1944-45.
Sounds pretty much like our entire defence tbh
Pretty much your average Enlisted game… it is realistic though.
Thank you...fascinating subject that I never knew of.
Another Interesting What If, In Aviation. That Fokker Sure Could Design Airplanes! Can't Understand Why The British Didn't Put It In A Museum!?!
Beautiful plane with a lot potential.pity don't get a chance to proof .
Fantastische video. Thnx 👍👍👍
Great video of a capable airplane that appears to be equal to anything the Germans had to offer at the time. It's a shame that an original was not preserved for history.
Awesome video and aircraft
I used to live next to one of the airfields it flew from (Vliegveld Bergen NH) There are still a number of structures and part of the taxiway there today.
Unfortunately all G1s at Bergen were damaged or destroyed before they could take off to engage in a battle with the Germans.
This makes me proud to see as a Dutch kid
dankjewel dit clipje maakt me trotz op mijn moederlandje (woon al 45 jaar in berlijn)
Nooit zo precies geweten hoe dat precies is gegaan. Leuk om het hier te vinden.
Did you know that a G1 shot down a British aircraft? This was before The Netherlands even entered the war. It was a Whitley returning from a leafletting raid over Germany. It crash landed in flames next to Waalhaven aerodrome. The crew survived the fire, except for the rear gunner, who jumped out just before the crash landing and was killed.
Interresting
What is your source for this?
Respect +++
The G-1, the mower, could have been one of the best WO2 planes if Fokker could have bought Rolls-Royce engines. It is a shame that most of the G1's were damaged on the ground.
It was due to the full naive ignorance by the commands that, with the acute German threat existent, the dutch military planes where lined up neatly other airfields, ready to be destroyed, which then so happened to most of them.
It's beautiful
cool but a sad end and i am dutch
His full name is Anthony Herman Gerard Fokker and was born at 06 April 1890 in Blitar East Java, Indonesia
Betul, dia lahir di Blitar di Hindia Belanda. Tapi waktu dia masih anak kecil (umur empat tahun) sudah pindah ke Belanda.
Ja .heeft niet de kans gehad zich te bewijzen hoewel, heel even en dat was duidelijk. Geniaal ontwerp .
Im dutch and i love aircraft and I’m proud and ashamed of this and hope these will never have to be made again
Can you do an vidoe about the DAF M39 Pantrado 3 ?
love it
I truely enjoy this impressive documentary in black and white pictures. Who will pretend in his right mind that the dutch air force was non existent and did not play its part in the early days of the german offensive against the west front ??. And who will sustain that the dutch aeronautic industry was not capable to design and manufacture such a good aircraft as the twin engined Fokker G 1?What an elegant and racy machine!!!! It is a great pity that so few of them could be produced and that not even one exemplary could outlive World War Two to be displayed in an air force museum where it belonged !!!
The replica has been stored for a very long time, it hasn't been on display for the simple reason that it isn't as accurate as people think. They do think about building a flyable version if they can manage the financial side. As the staff told me.
The great difference with the Me 109 and Spitfire where converted racing aircraft , with limited adaptebility
The Fokker military aircaft all had ,adaptablity and future upgrades in mind .
Just imagine these aircraft with some engines used on the Me 109, Spitfires . FW 190 . that would realy pusshed them to an extra level.
Do you maybe know what the top speed of the X-2 prototype was? Or what the suspected top speed of the proposed rolce Royce engines would have been
The top speed of the production aircraft was a little over 470 km/h. In a dive it could easily reach and handle speeds of over 700 km/h. Not bad for a mid 1930s design with those Mercury or Wasp engines - certainly not when war broke out in 1939. Plus it had great maneuverability, which made up for the lack of top speed against the early Bf 109s at the time of the German invasion in May 1940. I don't know hat the prognosed top speed was had the G I been fitted with the RR engines...
No mention of the 20mm cannons.
Years,Years ago former US Senator Barry Goldwater wrote me that he just finished building a model G-1 ! Johan VanLeer
Anthony Fokker was one of the best aircraft designers ever. It's too bat he wasn't able to get to Great Brittain or the U.S., the allies wight have had some even more superior designs to fight with.
Anthony Fokker spent WWII in the USA, but his reputation as a designer over there was not the best. One of his main designers, Erich Schatzki, however, also escaped to the US and helped design the P-47.
Gotta find a kit of this plane to go with my DXXI.....
It looks almost like a mix of the Beaufighter and the P-61 Black Widow
Why did Fokker have to import engines? No local supplier of aircraft engines?
We never had, even nowadays are Dutch planes with USA or UK engines
Ze hadden merlin motoren moeten gebruiken,net als in de spitfire
It's like a twin brother of the p38
But older
Its the other way around. Rumors go that Lockheed has used the idea of Fokker and developed it further, which was, due to the war, impossible for the Dutch. The P-38 showed the same characteristics as the G-1, fast and agile. Lockheed made the aircraft bigger and more powerful so it was capable of longer ranges and more ammo.
@@jpsholland Fokker already had designed a new twin boom fighter with tandem engines.in 1939 the Fokker D23 or DXXIII the prototype was destroyed with the bombing of schiphol , the germans later used that concept for their donier pfeil.
@@jpsholland damn you are obviously a Dutchophile .. it’s all good but other folks made twin boom aircraft as well. Pretty sure the Caproni Ca.1had a twin boom long before any Dutch plane.
@@jpsholland what ”rumors" ?
Would have been interesting how it would have fared against the Zero over Indonesia.
What a noise sounds
How original
Rip
The aircraft might have been good for 1937 but by 1940 it was seriously underpowered and also under-gunned. It was a period of intense technological development and a good aircraft could become obsolete in as little as 1 year. Unfortunately Fokker did not have an engine division and had to source its engines from outside, and good engines are hard to come by when war is at the doorstep.
If only they had some warning, way before its time, especially with the arment
Plenty of warning, but many a pacifist in the government that believed war would pass by the Netherlands as it did during WW1. As a result they did everything in their power to smother the budget for the military that as a result were hopelessly outdated when the invasion hit.
Indeed. The military leadership was already mid 1930's well aware that war would be coming. General Izaäk Reijnders was one of the few allied generals in Europe that closely studied the German invasion of Poland and saw the massive potential of Blitzkrieg even against nations as France. He believed France would not be able to hold the Germans. As for the Netherlands he already stated mid 1930's that the Germans might use paratroopers to secure vital airfields and bridges. The way he believed how the Germans would invade the Netherlands is almost exactly how it happened. He was one of the few recognizing that a new age of warfare had started, but petty much everyone worked against him, eventually leading to him quitting his position in 1940, just before the war, after the government repeatedly refused to give him the needed resources to defend his nation. Truly a forgotten hero with a magnificent military and geopolitical insight.
@@tigervv6437 yep , Reijnders was extremely progressive and knew exactly what was coming and what needed to be done to defend against it.. as you said , unfortunately he was ran off.. one of the Netherlands best military thinkers of his time.
Szacki/ Schatzki, Polish surnames are famous all over the world. All the best for you. Big plus.
I'm very surprised the Germans didn't use this one
So this was the design that Tank and Kelly acquired
Rumors go that Lockheed has indeed used the idea of Fokker and maybe even got their hands on the actual blueprints. With the USA's resources they could improve Fokkers idea to build an even more powerful version. The P38 Lightning
22 months before the P-38. Saying it was developed years earlier is kind of misleading.
I made a comic about the G1-Jachtkruiser. Check out or Google; ‘January Jones - Jachtkruiser’. The story partly takes place in Paris during the world exhibition where Germans are after the plans of the plane.
I have that boom to. But iat not 100% the real story ofcourse 😉
Wauw, de tekenaar van January Jones... Ken ik nog van Wordt Vervolgd 😅
@@LZ-zi3ll ...niet alleen EPPO WV & JJ (11 titels)... ik heb nog 40 titels gemaakt. Vorig jaar de Max Havelaar in stripvorm...
@@ericheuvel7864 Oh dat wist ik niet! Kende January Jones nog van vroeger maar wist niet dat er nog recente albums waren (of dat je ook andere dingen tekende).
Is voor mij jeugdsentiment haha, net als Franka en Storm. Ik zal binnenkort eens kijken! 😅
@@LZ-zi3ll ... als je mijn naam Googled en bij afbeeldingen kijkt zie je meer dingen die ik heb gemaakt. Vorig jaar de stripversie van Max Havelaar. January Jones kent inmiddels elf titels waarvan de laatsten ook door mij geschreven werden. Martin Lodewijk schreef de eerste 6 delen. JJ deel 11 heet Jachtkruiser... met de Fokker G1 dus... mooi toestel...
Still alive in GTA 5 ONLINE 👍
Yup
How do you mean?
@@Tidebo1 What*
Is there a G1 mod for gta 5?
@@Tidebo1 it is called Pyro. Google it.
Heavely influenced the fw189
The reaper!!!🙄🙄😔
het had de lange afstands jager kunnen zijn die de geallieerden zo nodig hadden ....
Die hadden ze toch? Die gebruikte ze voor veel nachtmissies boven de Noordzee en Duitsland. Het was ook het eerste vliegtuig met ingebouwde radar. De vleugels waren van hout, wat het toen lastig op te sporen maakte voor Duitse (latere) radar vliegtuigen.
Kan even niet op de naam komen.
@@jouniairplanevideos mosquito was de naam
@@williamkersbergen o ja, thanks
@@jouniairplanevideos Volgens mij was de Mosquito helemaal van hout. Het idee erachter was dat hout een niet essentieel materiaal was in WWII en dat er een enorme hoeveelheid kennis was onder de gewone bevolking voor het bewerken van hout. De Mosquito zou gebouwd kunnen worden zonder enige druk op de productie van de metale vliegtuigen uit te oefenen. Brilliant idee eigenlijk.
we waren goed vergeet dat niet dit toestel was ver voor zijn tyd onze regeing heeft toen gevaald
Net als jouw opleiding. Zelden zoveel spelfouten in zo'n korte zin gezien....
Shame, looks an excellent aircraft, and seemingly performed well.
Hollands glorie.
"Greatest"? How many were there?
THE GTA PLANEE
The P-61 black widow was more similar
actually the G1 was a far better fighter than any German plane in 1940. It was one of the best fighters of WWII. Too bad so few of them had been finished and that they let most of them be destroyed on the ground.
The G.I was not far better than any German fighter in 1940. The Bf 109 was faster, more agile and better armed. The G.I had a lot of potential and could have been excellent with a different armament and better engines, but it was never to be. The Fokker D.XXIII also had a lot of potential, but the invasion cut short its development.
It was also known as the reaper by the way.
I recently have seen a complete documentary about p38. They didn't say anything about this plane . They said p38 was the first plane with this configuration ! History is written by victor countries!
Well the p38 was designed in 1937 and only flew in februari 1939 The g1 was designed in 1934 and flew in 1937.
And there was another twin boomed single seat fighter of fokker that was designed in 1937 The fokker DXXXIII or D23 also shown at the paris airshow as a mock up and flew its first flight in may 1939.even lindberg was impressed.
That aircraft with the Rolls-Royce and daimler engines it could reach speed over 615 km/hr However do to export embargo on aircraft engines at the time it uses walter sigati engines making it only fly 520 km/hr as it was a prototype and was destroyed in may 1940. it had triangular laning gear , engines in tandem and even a ejector sear was in development as the pilot needed to be clear or the rear propellor to eject.
Later the germans copied the features of the Fokker D23 and used it for the DO 335 fastest piston engine driven fighter of the war.
See the specs and old rare footage below.
www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20D23.html
ruclips.net/video/5NRJbR5YQRE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ZmP5Y9cPUW8/видео.html
@@marcusfranconium3392 very useful details.thanks.
The Italian Caproni Ca 1 flew in 1914 , predating Fokker by a long time
@@guaporeturns9472 Well the caproni ca1 didnt fly in 1914 it was 1910 and it was a bomber not a fighter, secondly twin boom dubbledecker aircraft where not new every aircraft with a pusher engine was a twin boom aircraft even before the 1910s
The concept of a twinboom twin engined mono dekker heavy figther/light bomber concept was new.
@@marcusfranconium3392 my info says 1914 , if 1910 then so be it. I didn’t say it was the first , just using it as an example to show that twin boom was not a new concept. I’m not sure why you feel the need to tell me stuff I already know..I know the twin boom heavy fighter concept was pretty unique , and as I said earlier the heavy fighter concept didn’t go anywhere.
To bad the Fokker company never survived. Even Dutch gouverment did some back up in finence, it did not survive. Its a shame!
Waar is die replica?
Soesterberg 1 compleet en een half afgebouwd
wait so we have this wierd ass plane in denmark????? (im from denmark)
No. Denmark bought 12 g1 fighters and manufacturing lisence but not a single aircraft had been delivered before Germany invaded Denmark.
(who cares you're from denmark)
@@whoknows8225 I do !
The Danish G.Is would be armed with two Madsen cannons and two Madsen machineguns. They were actually delivered, but were still in their crates by the time the Germans invaded Denmark. At that time the Danish Air Force had not even finished their license built D.XXIs.
Next time you need a decent engine, call Daimler-Benz
Yeah , and next time you want the best engine call Pratt and Whitney , area code R , number is 2-8-0-0.
But, the Dutch engineers really wanted the best ... Rolls-Royce engines !
@@Jester-Riddle Rolls-Royce are good for sure. So are Daimler-Benz , but P&W R-2800 are pretty darn good.
@@guaporeturns9472 The Dutch wanted the Rolls Royce Engines, but they couldn't get them ... as explained in the video. I am not going to fight over which engines would have suited this particular aircraft best, but Dutch engineers seemed to have wanted the RR engines for their design.
I would say that unless all 3 engines were tried in comparison, we shall never know which engines would actually have been the best for the aircraft performance and for which roles, as they all had different performance benefits and setbacks.
Are you aware that some of the 'American Engines' at this stage of the War were actually Rolls Royce Engines modified for manufacture in the USA ? Furthermore, as part of the free technology transfer as part of the massive payment Britain made to the USA for it's help in the War, Engine technology was provided to the USA ? Britain finished paying it's financial debt to America for a War ending in 1945 finally in 2006 ! Yes, the United States assistance was a great commercial deal ... but an essential one at the time. Britain, on the other hand, let Germany off it's WWII Reparations cost to enable Germany to re-build as it's population was starving ... Britain was also starving post war, but was made to pay back the USA ...
@@Jester-Riddle yeah I am very aware of the American copies of RR engines. Probably was aware of that before you were born. Original comment said DB , not RR so not sure why you wasted your time typing stuff that I already knew and that doesn’t pertain to this thread.... I simply like radials best.. not sure why you brought up nationalities ? Oh you must think Im a national flag waver like you appear to be.. nope , just love radials and of the radials of the time the R2800 is my fave. Go try to start an argument with someone else , as I already won this one and I didn’t even argue. Adios.😂
1936, the same year as the Spitfire, Hurricane, Blenheim and Wellington.
Wonder why the Dutch couldn't have manufactured more of these aircraft and put up a better fight defending Holland.
Money is the simply reason. Building Dutch planes was cheaper i think
The Dutch thought they could stay out of the war like they did in WWI. So spending on war equipment was unpopular. The joke is of course that the Germans only invaded The Netherlands to get to France. We're still recovering from that insult ;-)
Im a Dutch descendant in South Africa. I see them as one of the most peacefull nations on earth. Dutch are genetically programmed to farm, trade and mind their own business.
@@awardfoto1 the dutch were not so peaceful in the far east. check out the history of indonesia.
Wiki ww2: "a vast majority of the indigenous Dutch East Indies population first welcomed the Japanese as liberators from the colonial Dutch empire, but this sentiment quickly changed as the occupation turned out to be far more oppressive and ruinous than the Dutch colonial government"
I can say that about the new South Africa as well.
Then I suppose there are a lot of twin engine planes that are "similar" to the P38 then
Despite their having a fraction of the power of the Allisons in the P38...and 3 seats...no 2nd stage supercharging and no high altitude capability...and certainly not a 400mph top speed and 1200 mile combat radius
It was Germany's P-38 , Fokker was German.
Since when? Anthony Fokker was Dutch, also when he built fighters for Germany in WWI…
100% Dutch.
In Afrikaans a daughter language to Dutch, 'Fokker' means fucker witch is pretty funny
In my language afrikaans the “fokker” means the fucker
Partly due to a backward Dutch government at the time. Who were incredibly stupid and thought they could remain neutral. And damn it to spend money on a well-equipped army. This great device has never been able to play a role. Too late, too little. That mistake is as unforgivable as betraying your country. And again we are heading in that direction with our current Dutch defense.
We're already invaded and sold out by our government once again, it's called the EU.
Alle linkse partijen gaan niet in defensie investeren, dat wordt wat....
You can't blame the goverment back then, they had managed to stay out of the first world war, saving an entire generation. This led to great support in pascifism in the Netherlands and thus many decisions on rearmement were neglected and unpopular by the people. So it isn't the goverment's fault, it's a combination of the two probably. Besides since 1936 the Dutch budget had gone way up, that's 4 years of preparing! The problem wasn't the money, there just weren't countries that wanted to sell weapons when they themselves were going to need them real soon.
@@lukamichels2186 Also we thought Germany wouldn't attack us.
@@lukamichels2186 The government could read the writing on the Wall. It was clear The Netherlands couldn’t remain neutral. So Fokker could build a good plain, but not in the right Numbers. And the government failed the train sufficiënt pilots. Indeed neglected because of pascifism, and not haring a seance of reality..
Very , sad about the last one ,
Jezz’ I wish I was around when knowing that was there one rotting away,
Definitely would of bought it and saved it, so sad many aircrafts are left to die , when even advertised, they could of been sold in a heart beat and saving a piece of history , would of been saved ,
except, for red tape bullshit has allowed them to die , even how much money the military / government would of made from selling these beyond priceless pieces of history, so sad 😞
Where the gta players at?
And now we know where ther Yanks got their Lightening design from, not that they'll ever admit it.
I really dont think they care one way or another.
@@Wolf1354 When have they ever?
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