The Mirai is gorgeous, but the lack of rear seat space and the small trunk are disappointing in a car that big. The Nexo may look geeky, but I love the practicality, and it requires few compromises.
The Mirai is a complete fail because of that back seat. It makes no sense for someone to buy a large sedan to have back seat leg space that's equal to last 2 seats in a 7 seater SUV.
That center panel of buttons in the Nexo is a bit ridiculous, though. I mean, I love buttons, but how do you easily find the right one on that? It looks like a toy for toddlers.
For my first gen Mirai, it would be real world around 39,000 miles. Roughly high ball park figure $95 for 5 kilograms of Hydrogen which would last around 250 miles. so 15,000/95 so around 157 fill ups x 250 mile range 157x250 = 39,250 miles
@@davefroman4700 Yes but three things, first it is already similar in price per month to my previous Mercedes, Hydrogen prices will fall, and finally like 45% of people in California I rent so I have no place to charge a BEV so it is a non starter.
The fuel cell and hydrogen tank are smaller and much lughter than the battery in a BEV. The problem is that the Lexus LS wasn't designed with this in mind. In no way is that the fault of the fuel cell, which is remarkably compact.
@@markmiller3279 They are lighter but not smaller. Also it is important to remember the HFCEVs still require a battery, albeit smaller than in a BEV. There's a lot more equipment needed in a HFCEV vs a BEV.
The Mirai is beautiful outside, but impractical inside. I wouldn't feel save sitting next to that 10,000 psig hydrogen tank. I don't know why most cars today have a moon-roof, as they add a lot of weight, complexity, take away from headroom, and offer a potential for leaks. There are hydrogen stations near me, but fueling costs is very high and I don't know how dependable they are.
The train has left the train station on Fuel cell Evs. BEVs have taken over partly because of cheap and predictable home charging convenience and relatively zero maintenance. Hydrogen production economics doesn't add up unless using cheap natural gas which is antithetical to the decarbonization of the planet and hydrogen is highly flammable. Furthermore that hydrogen fuel stack is a maintenance nightmare.
I don’t understand the point of electric. They are pretty good at speed, safety, tech, but they take forever to charge and there aren’t a lot of charging stations
@@martinjackson909 The point of electric is that they're pretty good at speed, safety, tech, the convenience of home charging, and there are enough charging stations now to drive practically anywhere in the country-which can't be said for hydrogen.
@@martinjackson909 There are plenty of charging stations, but it's even better to just charge at home for normal driving. Hydrogen cars are a lot more expensive to fuel/maintain than BEVs and the fueling time difference is negligible. It's interesting to see people think so highly of hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles despite their many disadvantages over other types of EVs and even combustion vehicles.
I don't understand why anyone would buy a hydrogen passenger car. It is not green as hydrogen is made from natural gas reformation, a major green gas emitter. It is an expensive fuel to store and transport. There is no fueling infrastructure outside of California, and fuel shortages plague availability in California. If you don't care about being green, keep driving your ICE. If you want to be green, EVs can be charged at home or at a growing network of fast chargers across the country at a cost far lower than hydrogen.
3 problems need to be solved before these cars can be more than niche. Day to day running costs, the efficiency of the car from solar panel to tire (about 1/3 the efficiency of a BEV), and the fact that at least 90% of hydrogen out there is derived from fossil fuels. So, an expensive fossil fuel guzzling car that costs 3x as much to operate is a heck of a math problem...
@@Onthercks07 56 Nuclear Plants produce more electricity than the 241 Coal plants still operating in the USA combined, all without a drop of air pollution. If you bleed your heart out about carbon emissions but won't even consider nuclear you aren't actually serious about your convictions.
@@Onthercks07 you mean elon musk can send stupid satellites blocking the night sky while delivering sub par 'broadband' but we can't send nuclear waste off to the netherworld?
Toyota's corporate schnozz is dreadful. This is one of the better versions, but it's still pretty bad. The low camera angles emphasize it heavily. In real life it doesn't draw attention so much.
Much bigger and nicer feeling. I compared it to tie kia niro ev, which after multiple test drives, I decided is basically a Corolla. I need more comfort. NEXO is amazing!!!
The technology isnt there yet. Fuelcell tech needs to be refined. The problem with green hydrogen must be solved and hydrogen station numbers need to increase
3:51 Typo. Should say 1.56 kWh, and 1.24 kWh, for the traction batteries, respectively, for the Nexo and Mirai. *EDIT:* It does say that, but the decimal points are almost invisible.
I was all in favor of fully electric vehicles until I learnt about the environmental impact of mining for the giant batteries. I also became scared of seeing the EV fires. Hydrogen cars just seems like a way cleaner and safer tech if the cars use green hydrogen.
Statistically speaking, fires from EVs are much less common than fires from ICE cars. www.greencarreports.com/news/1133254_fires-are-less-frequent-in-teslas-and-other-evs-vs-gas-vehicles Green hydrogen is difficult to achieve at this time, and most is generated from natural gas. It’s also more expensive than oil and electricity, and uses more power to generate than is usable. Regarding lithium mining, it has much less of an environmental impact than does drilling for and burning oil. Also, used batteries can be recycled, whereas gas and oil can’t.
I'd have to so a little research, but Tesla was not the first to have retractable handles, though maybe first on mass production vehicles. These have been seen on concept cars for many decades. Tesla dud not invent everything.
Most of the fuel-cell vehicles coming to market in the next few years will be able to deliver close to 70 miles per kilogram of fuel. That’s the equivalent of 70 miles per gallon.
@@Estoooopid There's sometimes a cost to be an early adopter. Are you old enough to remember that a 16MHz IBM PS/2 cost over $10K without the monitor in the early 90s? The price will come down when more people use them. And at the moment, Toyota gives you $15000 worth of hydrogen for a new Mirai, which makes the cost of hydrogen free for most people.
The fuel cell stack is very safe and the tank the hydrogen is stored in is pretty robust from what I’ve been told. That and in the unfortunate event it is ruptured, hydrogen is lighter than air so dissipates quite quickly.
Other than hopefully walking away and calling your insurance company, absolutely nothing. It would be very boring actually. I was scared too at first then did my research. H2 dissipates so fast IF the tanks were somehow punctured (not likely) it would just vent out in a heartbeat and be gone. The Hindenburg went up in flames thanks to the diesel on board for the heater, and the highly flammable outer layer, not the h2
Also cars /w A/C " in general are annoying since they leak water all over your car if you’re behind one. Obnoxious" too. troglodytes trolls and the lames excuse for bitching about the future...smh...
I own a 2017 Mirai and for all the hate the first gen gets, there is nothing the first gen does wrong, it's just the second gen does everything better. However the prices of the first gen are really great right now I got mine back in March, CPO from Toyota fully warranted until 2028, with only 35,000 miles, and the 3 year/15,000 mile gas card for only $8,500.
@@CumBrianFries If you buy a CPO or new Mirai they give you a free hydrogen gas card that has $15,000 of free hydrogen gas. You pull up to a pump insert the card and the gas is free for you
@@mephandr6479 Toyota of Sunnyvale, however mine did have the “Ion filter needs maintenance” warning on the dash so my guess is it scared everyone off and the sales people didn’t notice or care but the ion filter is just a $500 routine maintenance at 35,000 miles and I got them to promise to do it before I bought it. Maybe I should start a RUclips channel “I bought the cheapest Mirai in the US!”
The idea of filling up in 5 minutes like regular car is what interest me the most you can be environmentally friendly without the hassle of charging your electric car, wish there more hydrogen stations though ,, hope we'll be there
Both have pros and cons. I believe that fuel cell vehicles will become more prevalent in the coming years, especially in certain segments. I like the idea of charging and EV at home, but also absolutely love the idea of an electric car that can be filled up.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 i dont see a need to increase the size of a heavy, low energy density battery just for the sake of plugging in. If battery tech improves sure, but as it stands I like the combination presented in both these models. Hopefully infrastructure will improve similar to how charging stations have over the last 10 years.
@@ALMX5DP Oh I thought because you like the idea of charging at home and being able to fill up but I get it, combining those two isn't necessarily a zero or positive sum game.
@@ALMX5DP electric cars are good with speed, safety, tech, and charging at home but that’s it! They take forever to charge and there aren’t enough charging stations
I owned the 2021 Mirai XLE and then switched to the 2021 Hyundai Nexo. The Mirai drives smoother, quieter, and feels more luxurious...Lexus like. I switched to the Hyundai because I have children so the rear passenger space is essential. The driver assist tech is better in the Nexo. Overall practicality goes to the Nexo. The hydrogen fueling on the other hand is just getting worse with it going up from $16/kg to now $36/kg while reliability of the stations don't appear to be getting better but more unpredictable. Neither car has any resale value do to fueling issues. Ask anyone that has owned a hydrogen car and the answer is always the same, love the cars but hate the fueling.
Check dealer incentives. I leased my NEXO for the same monthly payment and less down as my old Lexus NX300H, and it’s more comfortable to drive, plus now I have free fuel.
There's regen because they both have a 1kwh battery, like a Prius does. It acts as a buffer because hydrogen fuel cells needs time to catch up to throttle input.
Fantastic review on FCEV no one else is touching. Alex is boldly going where no man has gone before! 👍👍👍👍 A couple of months ago, Hyundai has introduced their next generation of fuel cell stacks that are 30% more energy dense. Their focus seems to be in large commercial vehicles. I'd love to see H2 used for all sorts of transportation from containerships to passenger planes. I heard that the new generation of Nexo is due in 2023.
I’m a toyota fan but I’ll take the Hyundai any day in this case. The Mirai looks ridiculous/frumpy/dog taking a poop-like with its short clown-like back doors. Looks like a circus car.
The lack of hydrogen stations across America is the one downfall of these two vehicles, in my opinion. Also, neither of them is rated for towing. If Biden really wants to get cracking at climate/eco-friendly goals, I think we should be investing in this AT LEAST as much as traditional EVs, if not more.
True Green Hybrid SUV: 15kw plugin battery (>110km range) with efficient regenerative breaking, ultra high capacity >1.5kw solar top on roof & bonnet and small hydrogen 4kg tank (>350km range) for light-weight & cost-effective green hybrid FCEV (>600km range) under $25k or ₹200k..!!
All I see is hydrogen owners returning there cars because all the pumps are always empty. So I have no clue how you drive these around and I can drive my EV coast to coast without any issues. Its been 20 years, i think hydrogen has ran its course. I love the look of the clarity. I tell people if you are nervous just get a phev, but dont ever go for hydrogen you'll be stranded.
I believe that the Marai is based on the Japanese market Toyota Crown sedan (not the lifted crossover/sedan sold in the USA). Also, I am positive the ride would be much better if 17 or 18 inch wheels were available.
Theres a reason fuel cell vehicles aren’t gaining popularity… the package efficiency of the drivetrain is terrible, the environmental impact of creating the fuel (hydrogen) and the lack of hydrogen fill locations … no bueno
The packaging efficiency of the drivetrain is nothing special. Both of these are packaged much like an ordinary hybrid, with a duel cell stack where the engine would be. The stacks are getting smaller all the time, enough so that they could base the Mirai off an existing model.
Alex, thx for a great argument for getting battery swapping options in the USA ASAP.... Then BEVs will have home charging for most trips. Battery Swap in under 3 mins. where its available. And old fashioned DCFC in an emergency to get home or to the next battery swapping station, Go tell NIO and Gleey who both are starting to offer battery swapping outside of China. To bring it to the USA sooner than later. BTW geek in me loves HFCVs. But it only exists "now" since its being massively subsidized and forced some automaker by governments mostly in Asia... And its in the wrong vehicles, it should be used in trucks... And its only relevant in Cali for the USA anyway... So its just eye candy for the rest of us... So have sending us the candy :)
Alex, should mention there is a serious shortage for Hydrogen right now that Toyota is handing out rental money (along with all gas) weekly. I have a friend who haven't driven his Mirai for 2 months because he is able to rent nice luxury cars, courtesy of Toyota :)
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Essentially NO, you just described a simple chemical reaction, so please don't talk about things you really don´t know unless they are proven by science (and proton exchange hasn´t been proven yet by science, or if you did you deserve a Nobel Prize, sir)
Quite clear Batteries is the way to go for passenger vehicles. Why would you buy a HEV? I don’t see the benefits. You need stations and you pay more than Gas
10:25 this changed my mind from Mirai to Nexo
really 100 %%% agree
Lies again? AIA Money White Face USD SGD
Both are very good looking. I'd buy one instead of an EV if there were more filling stations.
Yeah I hate EVs! I don’t care if you can charge at home, speed, safety! Hydrogen all the way!
With that back seat, the Mirai will never become an Avalon. Some of the design language is nice, but that fastback saloon look is… the Sonata.
Yeah, people always loved the Avalon for its extreme spaciousness. This is pretty, but less practical than a Camry.
I love my NEXO so much I can’t even begin to say!!!!
For Fuel Economy, the Mirai only gets an A while the Nexo gets an A+? I'm confused. Still loved the detailed video. Keep up the great work.
He mixed up the scores for sure (:
The Mirai is gorgeous, but the lack of rear seat space and the small trunk are disappointing in a car that big. The Nexo may look geeky, but I love the practicality, and it requires few compromises.
The Mirai is a complete fail because of that back seat. It makes no sense for someone to buy a large sedan to have back seat leg space that's equal to last 2 seats in a 7 seater SUV.
It is like Samsung/LG (Korea) vs Sony/Panasonic (Japan).
Hyundai Nexo holds world record of 887.5 km distance with single hydrogen tank in Australia.
Wow the Nexo interior is so Mich nicer than the Toyota and all that piano black plastic. Wasn't expecting that
That center panel of buttons in the Nexo is a bit ridiculous, though. I mean, I love buttons, but how do you easily find the right one on that? It looks like a toy for toddlers.
I would rather wait for 2nd gen of nexo
Me too !
Hi Alex, both cars come with $15K hydrogen card - how many miles will this prepaid card translate into?
Beware the pre-paid card has an expiration of 3 years ?
@@samkong2741 yeah but 6 yrs. for the new mirai purchase. I just don't how many miles the $15K is equivalent to.
For my first gen Mirai, it would be real world around 39,000 miles. Roughly high ball park figure $95 for 5 kilograms of Hydrogen which would last around 250 miles. so 15,000/95 so around 157 fill ups x 250 mile range 157x250 = 39,250 miles
@@taggat $95 for 250 miles? Tell me again this is the future you want? An EV would cost less than 3 dollars to travel that distance.
@@davefroman4700 Yes but three things, first it is already similar in price per month to my previous Mercedes, Hydrogen prices will fall, and finally like 45% of people in California I rent so I have no place to charge a BEV so it is a non starter.
The packaging of the Mirai compared to an EV Is atrocious. What a waste. Full electric is the future.
The fuel cell and hydrogen tank are smaller and much lughter than the battery in a BEV. The problem is that the Lexus LS wasn't designed with this in mind. In no way is that the fault of the fuel cell, which is remarkably compact.
@@markmiller3279 They are lighter but not smaller. Also it is important to remember the HFCEVs still require a battery, albeit smaller than in a BEV. There's a lot more equipment needed in a HFCEV vs a BEV.
Nexo looks modern and cute. Mirai looks too agressive. 10:25 is quite disappointed.
Great comparison between the Mirai and Nexo. I might test drive the Mirai.
Can't fill up hydrogen at home nor top off at work or at the mall.
So? And one can't fully recharge a BEV in five minutes.
Don’t need to with this range!
Thank your sir your review was amazing I’ll definitely chose hydrogen vs electric and going with Nexo
Nice video but/floating console is the "latest" thing? Volvo started in the 2000's and the 2010 Prius had it.
The Mirai is beautiful outside, but impractical inside. I wouldn't feel save sitting next to that 10,000 psig hydrogen tank. I don't know why most cars today have a moon-roof, as they add a lot of weight, complexity, take away from headroom, and offer a potential for leaks. There are hydrogen stations near me, but fueling costs is very high and I don't know how dependable they are.
The car mfg gives you free fuel for 3 years. I am so happy I went H2 with the NEXO!!!
The front end of the Mirai looks a lot like my Camry XSE, which looks very Lexus F sport like.
And that’s a compliment to the Mirai.
GOT ENOUGH ACCESS STICKERS ON THE NEXO
Looks like the Mirai is a 2 seater.
Yeah, usually it’s just me and my mom on the car, so lots of seats really doesn’t matter to us
The train has left the train station on Fuel cell Evs. BEVs have taken over partly because of cheap and predictable home charging convenience and relatively zero maintenance. Hydrogen production economics doesn't add up unless using cheap natural gas which is antithetical to the decarbonization of the planet and hydrogen is highly flammable. Furthermore that hydrogen fuel stack is a maintenance nightmare.
NEXO way better
Do I need to buy extra warranty for these cars?
Bet every one of the dislikes are Tesla owners that believe that THEY are driving the cars of the future!
I don’t understand the point of electric. They are pretty good at speed, safety, tech, but they take forever to charge and there aren’t a lot of charging stations
@@martinjackson909 The point of electric is that they're pretty good at speed, safety, tech, the convenience of home charging, and there are enough charging stations now to drive practically anywhere in the country-which can't be said for hydrogen.
@@martinjackson909 There are plenty of charging stations, but it's even better to just charge at home for normal driving. Hydrogen cars are a lot more expensive to fuel/maintain than BEVs and the fueling time difference is negligible. It's interesting to see people think so highly of hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles despite their many disadvantages over other types of EVs and even combustion vehicles.
If you were paying to fill up, why would you buy one? BEV make more cents…….
Where are there gas stations in the USA I just did search there zero
GOOD LUCK WITH THE RECALL ON THE MACH-E
THE GLASS WASN'T BONDED PROPERLY
I don't understand why anyone would buy a hydrogen passenger car. It is not green as hydrogen is made from natural gas reformation, a major green gas emitter. It is an expensive fuel to store and transport. There is no fueling infrastructure outside of California, and fuel shortages plague availability in California. If you don't care about being green, keep driving your ICE. If you want to be green, EVs can be charged at home or at a growing network of fast chargers across the country at a cost far lower than hydrogen.
Green and white hydrogen
Apparently Alex has his own car lot.
The biggest difference people seem to forget is Toyota reliability is much better than Hyundai
No rear wiper on the Nexo? How well does that work?
go ask 100x more Ioniq 5 buyers... that have to deal with the same no rear wiper situation...
@@nc3826 That's why I asked.
good luck with that
Quite good, actually. I test drove the ioniq 5 in the rain and there were no issues with rear visibility
It has one, hidden under the spoiler.
3 problems need to be solved before these cars can be more than niche. Day to day running costs, the efficiency of the car from solar panel to tire (about 1/3 the efficiency of a BEV), and the fact that at least 90% of hydrogen out there is derived from fossil fuels. So, an expensive fossil fuel guzzling car that costs 3x as much to operate is a heck of a math problem...
The #1 argument against nuclear power, 20 years ago, was that there was no market for the hydrogen which would be produced.
@@aliendroneservices6621 and then there's the annoying issue of 1000s years of radioactive waste... Unless youre willing to store it in your backyard?
@@Onthercks07 Correct. I am willing to store dry casks on my property.
@@Onthercks07 56 Nuclear Plants produce more electricity than the 241 Coal plants still operating in the USA combined, all without a drop of air pollution. If you bleed your heart out about carbon emissions but won't even consider nuclear you aren't actually serious about your convictions.
@@Onthercks07 you mean elon musk can send stupid satellites blocking the night sky while delivering sub par 'broadband' but we can't send nuclear waste off to the netherworld?
I like everything about the new Mirai but I don't like it's nose (front end)
Toyota's corporate schnozz is dreadful. This is one of the better versions, but it's still pretty bad. The low camera angles emphasize it heavily. In real life it doesn't draw attention so much.
The Nexo is very Kona-ish.
Much bigger and nicer feeling. I compared it to tie kia niro ev, which after multiple test drives, I decided is basically a Corolla. I need more comfort. NEXO is amazing!!!
Why ..why ????? Why the industry wont persuade the hydrogen ideas and perfect it .... Instead of all those electric garbage that make NO sense??
have fun perfect it
have fun perfect it
The technology isnt there yet. Fuelcell tech needs to be refined. The problem with green hydrogen must be solved and hydrogen station numbers need to increase
Alex, My nexo Hydrogen car will most definitely be a ........Mirai. :D
3:51 Typo. Should say 1.56 kWh, and 1.24 kWh, for the traction batteries, respectively, for the Nexo and Mirai.
*EDIT:* It does say that, but the decimal points are almost invisible.
"almost" ??? btw its the same for the kg rating of the tanks
@@nc3826 Set the resolution to 4k (max) and zoom in.
thx...
but Im not going to buy a 4k display to test the theory :)
wow ur eyes are bad...
nice
Hey Alex, do you make your own hydrogen in your mountain top headquarters? Seriously, what would it take?
A death wish
Alex definitely favors the Mirai….hmmm….not sure
TOYOTA 😎👍🏻
I was all in favor of fully electric vehicles until I learnt about the environmental impact of mining for the giant batteries. I also became scared of seeing the EV fires.
Hydrogen cars just seems like a way cleaner and safer tech if the cars use green hydrogen.
Statistically speaking, fires from EVs are much less common than fires from ICE cars.
www.greencarreports.com/news/1133254_fires-are-less-frequent-in-teslas-and-other-evs-vs-gas-vehicles
Green hydrogen is difficult to achieve at this time, and most is generated from natural gas. It’s also more expensive than oil and electricity, and uses more power to generate than is usable.
Regarding lithium mining, it has much less of an environmental impact than does drilling for and burning oil. Also, used batteries can be recycled, whereas gas and oil can’t.
The nexo is trying to look like a space shuttle cockpit with all those buttons
The Santa Fe is the same. It's somewhat ugly but very functional.
I like it, though I'd prefer the Mirai, only considering the look of the car.
to me that mirai front is butt ugly. the best looking toyota car used to be the xse camry's
The door handle or Hyundai imitates Tesla’s!!
I'd have to so a little research, but Tesla was not the first to have retractable handles, though maybe first on mass production vehicles. These have been seen on concept cars for many decades. Tesla dud not invent everything.
Can you discuss reliability, durability and other mechanical/electrical issues u had with the Nexo🤔 ? Thanks
Hyundai no contest
RIP Honda Clarity 😓
*in California
ditto
Sooo....
Who wins in a drag race?
Hydrogen is $5.80 a gallon
Hydrogen isn’t measured in gallons. Instead it’s kilograms. Just curious how did you get at that number?
Most of the fuel-cell vehicles coming to market in the next few years will be able to deliver close to 70 miles per kilogram of fuel. That’s the equivalent of 70 miles per gallon.
@@holyland6380 near where i live it's selling @ $13.14/kg.
@@Estoooopid There's sometimes a cost to be an early adopter. Are you old enough to remember that a 16MHz IBM PS/2 cost over $10K without the monitor in the early 90s? The price will come down when more people use them. And at the moment, Toyota gives you $15000 worth of hydrogen for a new Mirai, which makes the cost of hydrogen free for most people.
The mfg gives you a fuel card for the first three years so H2 cost is actually $0 🙂
The new toyota looks nice but did they dump the evil track pad?
Yes, because it's using the Toyota infotainment. Only mid/late 2010s Lexus vehicles have the touchpad.
I have noticed that "gorgeous" has become the go-to adjective for every car reviewer describing a brand new, generic, instantly forgettable car.
The nexo isn't really forgettable or generic because of Hydrogen fuel cell.
Hyundai vs Toyota! Really?😆😆😆 No contest - give me the Toyota, of course.
Toyota & Lexus Will Still be The #1 in JP Car i agree with you too Toyota & Lexus will Always be better😊❤💕
Nexo is the best selling hydrogen car in the world. Also ioniq beats bz4x.
Sorry but Hydrogen cars….just don’t make any sense compared to a BEV.
What happens when you unfortunately get into an accident?
Doesn’t matter as long at it isn’t electric. People would rather risk their lives since it isn’t electric
The fuel cell stack is very safe and the tank the hydrogen is stored in is pretty robust from what I’ve been told. That and in the unfortunate event it is ruptured, hydrogen is lighter than air so dissipates quite quickly.
Other than hopefully walking away and calling your insurance company, absolutely nothing. It would be very boring actually. I was scared too at first then did my research. H2 dissipates so fast IF the tanks were somehow punctured (not likely) it would just vent out in a heartbeat and be gone. The Hindenburg went up in flames thanks to the diesel on board for the heater, and the highly flammable outer layer, not the h2
Toyota 24/7
I love that mirai too much
Repeat? Oh, got it!
Never Hyundai for me .. Toyota yes .
lmfao
🤣🤣🤣
@@nc3826 🤡
Hyundai and Kia came a long way yes they improved so much proud of them. But I prefer Japanese cars all day and Im Korean 😂.
You haven't driven one lately have you?
Junk vs junk.
Also hydrogen cars in general are annoying since they leak water all over your car if you’re behind one. Obnoxious.
How much water do they drip while in operation?
Maybe you shouldn't be so close then...says more about your driving than blaming the car ahead .....
Also cars /w A/C " in general are annoying since they leak water all over your car if you’re behind one. Obnoxious" too.
troglodytes trolls and the lames excuse for bitching about the future...smh...
Yeah, carbon monoxide is sooooo much better. Lol.
I own a 2017 Mirai and for all the hate the first gen gets, there is nothing the first gen does wrong, it's just the second gen does everything better. However the prices of the first gen are really great right now I got mine back in March, CPO from Toyota fully warranted until 2028, with only 35,000 miles, and the 3 year/15,000 mile gas card for only $8,500.
gas card?
@@CumBrianFries If you buy a CPO or new Mirai they give you a free hydrogen gas card that has $15,000 of free hydrogen gas. You pull up to a pump insert the card and the gas is free for you
@@taggat Ahh, I see. Thanks for the explanation.
$8,500, what dealer was selling it for that price?, all the ones I'm seeing are about 2x double the price you paid.
@@mephandr6479 Toyota of Sunnyvale, however mine did have the “Ion filter needs maintenance” warning on the dash so my guess is it scared everyone off and the sales people didn’t notice or care but the ion filter is just a $500 routine maintenance at 35,000 miles and I got them to promise to do it before I bought it. Maybe I should start a RUclips channel “I bought the cheapest Mirai in the US!”
The idea of filling up in 5 minutes like regular car is what interest me the most you can be environmentally friendly without the hassle of charging your electric car, wish there more hydrogen stations though ,, hope we'll be there
Both have pros and cons. I believe that fuel cell vehicles will become more prevalent in the coming years, especially in certain segments. I like the idea of charging and EV at home, but also absolutely love the idea of an electric car that can be filled up.
@@ALMX5DP Maybe plug in hybrids but instead of an engine it will have a fuel cell. Anyway I'll still pick a traditional car over any of these.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 i dont see a need to increase the size of a heavy, low energy density battery just for the sake of plugging in. If battery tech improves sure, but as it stands I like the combination presented in both these models. Hopefully infrastructure will improve similar to how charging stations have over the last 10 years.
@@ALMX5DP Oh I thought because you like the idea of charging at home and being able to fill up but I get it, combining those two isn't necessarily a zero or positive sum game.
@@ALMX5DP electric cars are good with speed, safety, tech, and charging at home but that’s it! They take forever to charge and there aren’t enough charging stations
I owned the 2021 Mirai XLE and then switched to the 2021 Hyundai Nexo. The Mirai drives smoother, quieter, and feels more luxurious...Lexus like. I switched to the Hyundai because I have children so the rear passenger space is essential. The driver assist tech is better in the Nexo. Overall practicality goes to the Nexo. The hydrogen fueling on the other hand is just getting worse with it going up from $16/kg to now $36/kg while reliability of the stations don't appear to be getting better but more unpredictable. Neither car has any resale value do to fueling issues. Ask anyone that has owned a hydrogen car and the answer is always the same, love the cars but hate the fueling.
Why is the Hyundai more fuel efficient but gets less mpg ? Is it because of the size ?
I think Alex may have swapped the A and A+ based on 15:29
Honda started hydrogen car with FCX Clarity . Now Honda is out of the race
both need some design improvement? Nexo is definitely more practically designed for everyday use.
How is it more practical?
@@hedgehogthesonic3181 better cargo area and rear seats
I thought he's talking about the look not the internal....
The Hyundai here looks ugly sh#t
@@hedgehogthesonic3181 10:25 this
KOREA 🇰🇷 WINS.
JAPAN 🇯🇵 WINS, sorry.
@@trofimlysenko4576 korea🇰🇷 japan 🇯🇵 wins!
I would agree the Nexo is easier to live with but after checking the price, the Nexo is $10K+ more than the Mirai so I agree to disagree😅
Check dealer incentives. I leased my NEXO for the same monthly payment and less down as my old Lexus NX300H, and it’s more comfortable to drive, plus now I have free fuel.
Nexo owner here. The car is much-much more practical in daily use than Mirai. Looking for other FCEV from Koreans. The tech itself is stunning.
Thank you for your self-praise in videos from other countries ☺️
Do these hydrogen cars have regenerative braking? and what happens to the generated electricity? it gets reused?
There's regen because they both have a 1kwh battery, like a Prius does. It acts as a buffer because hydrogen fuel cells needs time to catch up to throttle input.
Fantastic review on FCEV no one else is touching. Alex is boldly going where no man has gone before! 👍👍👍👍
A couple of months ago, Hyundai has introduced their next generation of fuel cell stacks that are 30% more energy dense. Their focus seems to be in large commercial vehicles. I'd love to see H2 used for all sorts of transportation from containerships to passenger planes. I heard that the new generation of Nexo is due in 2023.
title should have been "Toyota Mirai vs Hyundai Nexo | The Other Kind of EV In Cali" good luck using them in the rest of America :)
RIP Alex's hair for this shoot: 0:00 - 10:40
I’m a toyota fan but I’ll take the Hyundai any day in this case. The Mirai looks ridiculous/frumpy/dog taking a poop-like with its short clown-like back doors. Looks like a circus car.
fake toyota fan.
You're obviously blind the doors are normal size ......
ironic for someone who has a dog that look like my poop
The lack of hydrogen stations across America is the one downfall of these two vehicles, in my opinion. Also, neither of them is rated for towing. If Biden really wants to get cracking at climate/eco-friendly goals, I think we should be investing in this AT LEAST as much as traditional EVs, if not more.
True Green Hybrid SUV:
15kw plugin battery (>110km range) with efficient regenerative breaking, ultra high capacity >1.5kw solar top on roof & bonnet and small hydrogen 4kg tank (>350km range) for light-weight & cost-effective green hybrid FCEV (>600km range) under $25k or ₹200k..!!
All I see is hydrogen owners returning there cars because all the pumps are always empty. So I have no clue how you drive these around and I can drive my EV coast to coast without any issues. Its been 20 years, i think hydrogen has ran its course. I love the look of the clarity. I tell people if you are nervous just get a phev, but dont ever go for hydrogen you'll be stranded.
The issues have been corrected and haven’t happened in a while now. Highly recommend!
I believe that the Marai is based on the Japanese market Toyota Crown sedan (not the lifted crossover/sedan sold in the USA). Also, I am positive the ride would be much better if 17 or 18 inch wheels were available.
Toyota is more fun, cool, stylish and prestigious.
Hyundai is more practical.
Team Hyundai for life
You work for them?
Sh#tty company
Theres a reason fuel cell vehicles aren’t gaining popularity… the package efficiency of the drivetrain is terrible, the environmental impact of creating the fuel (hydrogen) and the lack of hydrogen fill locations … no bueno
The packaging efficiency of the drivetrain is nothing special. Both of these are packaged much like an ordinary hybrid, with a duel cell stack where the engine would be. The stacks are getting smaller all the time, enough so that they could base the Mirai off an existing model.
The nexo looks way better
Yeah, especially the interior.
6 dislikes already? Are there people on stand-by to thumb-down Alex's videos as soon as they are posted? Wow...
Probably Tesla stock owners who thumb-down any challengers to EVs.
awful expensive cars
Alex, thx for a great argument for getting battery swapping options in the USA ASAP....
Then BEVs will have home charging for most trips. Battery Swap in under 3 mins. where its available. And old fashioned DCFC in an emergency to get home or to the next battery swapping station,
Go tell NIO and Gleey who both are starting to offer battery swapping outside of China. To bring it to the USA sooner than later.
BTW geek in me loves HFCVs. But it only exists "now" since its being massively subsidized and forced some automaker by governments mostly in Asia... And its in the wrong vehicles, it should be used in trucks... And its only relevant in Cali for the USA anyway... So its just eye candy for the rest of us... So have sending us the candy :)
Alex, which one has a better ACC system?
TOYOTA MIRAI 😎👍🏻
Alex, should mention there is a serious shortage for Hydrogen right now that Toyota is handing out rental money (along with all gas) weekly. I have a friend who haven't driven his Mirai for 2 months because he is able to rent nice luxury cars, courtesy of Toyota :)
Mirai ….. why?
finally 🤣
곧 국뽕 유튜버들이 몰려올 영상입니다
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Homage to tailpipes? Alex where is the end of hydrogen madness?
14:48 Protons exchange???? 🤦🏻
Essentially yes, protons cross the permeable membrane while the electrons move along the conductors. Anode reaction:
2H2 → 4H+ + 4e−
Cathode reaction:
O2 + 4H+ + 4e− → 2H2O
Overall cell reaction:
2H2 + O2 → 2H2O + heat + electrical energy
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Essentially NO, you just described a simple chemical reaction, so please don't talk about things you really don´t know unless they are proven by science (and proton exchange hasn´t been proven yet by science, or if you did you deserve a Nobel Prize, sir)
@@stingray120 Just look up "proton exchange membrane fuel cell (PEMFC)"!
Is the Honda Clarity Fuel Cell still available?
No, it was discontinued.
Quite clear Batteries is the way to go for passenger vehicles. Why would you buy a HEV? I don’t see the benefits. You need stations and you pay more than Gas
You actually pay nothing for fuel for 3 years thanks to the card from the car manufacturer. Free is my kinda language!!!