Breaking out at MINIMUMS - LPV Approach to 200ft (Cessna 182)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Ever heard the term "pucker factor?" Well, we were puckered up for this one. This is about as low as you can get on an approach. Whew.
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Troy is a great communicator. Precision flying by the "crew".
I have flown with Troy before. He is a super professional pilot. Also he has the voice of God.
😂 thanks Bryan.
The decision to work that as a crew, and the way you worked together was excellent. Well-flown, well-crewed, nicely done.
Josh, best video of yours so far. As a PPL almost ready for my instrument, this was a perfect example of flying in IMC right down to minimums, when almost all of my 40plus IFR hours are under the foggles. You are spot on - having a second instrument-rated pilot in the right seat is priceless. Thanks for sharing this one!
The cinematography and color grading is truly something else Josh. I sincerely enjoy watching your videos! What's the best way to get in contact with you?
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Definitely a difference in being current vs. being proficient in an approach like this one. Well done!
Excellent CRM, I love how you apply airline principles and philosophies to GA - you and your team are making the skies a safer place to be, one video at a time!
Nice work gentlemen. I’ve done a few of those absolute minimum landings single pilot. Very unnerving but as you mention, training is why we do it. Having extra eyes is a huge advantage and any pilot would be a fool not to take advantage.
Good job, nothing better than breaking out and the runway is where its supposed to be!
Don’t you hate when they’ve moved it? 🤣
@@Jeffrey-Flys 🤪
@@Jeffrey-Flys Lol
Lots of times with a good crosswind pilots can miss it. That’s why I always give a clock angle when I call runway in sight to the pilot flying.
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Good point.....
Very nice. Thank you for the "VFR" distance call out. I think as instrument pilots we get caught up in the approach and even though there was no VFR traffic it's a good habit to announce where you are like '8 miles out straight in runway 34' so they understand. VFR traffic doesn't usually know fixes on an instrument approach so to say you're at PAXXE intersection on RNAV 34 doesn't let them know where you are.
This one going down as one of my favorite vlogs of yours. High intensity approach (was literally grabbing my arm rests on short final). Awesome communication between the two of you, the CRM was without a doubt first class, textbook, airline standards if I may say. You're a hell of a mentor to me and hundreds of thousands of other pilots. Stay safe my friend.
Very cool to see an approach as low as this handled as smoothly and cooperatively as you guys did! I'm looking forward to the full-length on Cockpit Club!
I love how chill the departure controller was, great to hear after some of the center controllers going about as fast as they can.
Aviation 101 I was looking at an app called Flightradar24 about a week earlier and I was looking in your area and saw you flying around the Austin area circling the city and I screen shot to but don’t know how to post that pic in the comments. Anyways I thought it was awesome watching you fly around on that app. Love this channel I’m a pilot in training with 11 hours under my belt and I have learned a lot watching you. Thanks for the vids! If your ever in the northeast Alabama area I would love to fly with you. I know it’s a long shot but figured I would ask anyways.
Well, that was pretty intense from my couch... can’t imagine being in that cockpit. Nice job, great content.
I watched this 6 months ago before I started any instrument training and was only picking up bits and pieces, now just waiting to schedule my instrument ride, it was fun to watch again while understanding everything!
Your videos, instruction and adventures are the pinnacle of aviation and I'm truly appreciative of your effort! To the cockpit club I go!
Thank you Josh for posting that video. I learned a lot about working together as a crew. You two worked together very well. See you next time.
The toga button was on my mind when Troy called out 100 to go! Great video and audio as well! Nice work Josh ! John.
Excellent comms guys. I know I’m three years late. But the video still hits well.
Also, DC-3/C-47/R4D (??) at 16:11 !
Was a pleasure to watch two VERY skilled pilots doing what they do!
Used CRM many times in the Archer I fly. It’s a needed thing for all pilots to understand and as you said talk to the other pilot and know each other
Communication was vital. Team work made for a safe landing in some very difficult circumstances. Excellent job - congratulations to you both.
Very nice Josh. I'm about to finish my MCC, so this video landed right in time. You both did a really nice job splitting tasks and making use of the resources you had at disposal. Overall, what makes good CRM is communication and clear task splitting with both knowing who has the lead but knowing that you're "flying" as well as the pilot monitoring and that you need to point out when something's not right and keep the PF in the loop as well as the other way around (closed loop principle). Real training in CRM takes time and experience but your video was a great example of the essentials! Thanks for sharing and greetings from Switzerland.
This is one hell of a good video. From one pilot (just about to take the private checkride) to the other, this looked like it was one HELL of a challenge on approach.
About a week ago (January 24, 2021) I went flying from KGEU to KIWA via Scottsdale airport as a waypoint. The clouds were broken with a hard ceiling of about 5500 if I remember correctly. It was raining all over the Phoenix area but it wasn't horrible. My CFI and I discussed the flight and we decided to go with a flight that wasn't going to be too risky. Both to the north and the south there were storms with HEAVY rainfall and the potential for icing. That's definitely not a good idea to attempt without the right equipment.
The flight to Williams Gateway (KIWA) was pretty uneventful and I was able to get flight following. Whenever I do a cross country flight, I like either a flightplan or flight following. ATC here in the Phoenix area is VERY good about that. Flying into Gateway (KIWA) was really interesting because it has 3 large runways and a HELL of a lot of traffic both with Allegiant and several flight schools operating there. They gave me a good approach into 30 Right and I did a full stop taxi back, then a touch and go to begin my return leg to KGEU.
I used the same routing on my return leg with flight following and ATC tried giving me 5000 as an altitude. I advised I'm a VFR student and they kept me at 4500. As I mentioned earlier ( and honestly this is the point that I'm making here) the clouds were broken but I was more than confident about flying my route and going through a few of them as I needed to.
When I went through the clouds and saw how beautiful it was up there that day, I thought back to some of your videos where you've been in the weather. Between the training I've been receiving with my CFI and what I see here online, I knew just to fly the plane, pay attention and I would be just fine. Keep up the amazing work and posting video clips for us. Trust me, it helps.
A few take aways from my trip as well as what I'm seeing here on this video. First off, CRM is HUGE. If you have people with you and they're able to help, take advantage of that.
Secondly, ATC is an extremely helpful group of people. Their job is to help you get where you need to go safely.
Finally, know your limitations as a pilot. A bad judgement call has the potential to get someone killed. If I had even a second of a doubt, I wouldn't have flown. I was able to pay attention to the weather, use ATC to my advantage, and plan my route accordingly.
Either way, This was a great video and I look forward to more in the future.
It is a great feeling when that runway environment shows up right on schedule. Job very well done. You guys form a great team.
Down to mínimums again. Well done Josh. You’re the man!💪
You always remember your first approach to mins. Mine was very early in my IFR training, C-152 into Okmulgee, OK, popular place to shoot approaches for Spartan students. First IMC to mins in a military jet was in a T-38, the ground comes up fast in an approach cat E aircraft, tacan/ils at KDLF. Formation instrument approaches are the best, but higher minimums apply so you never get to go down to mins on the wing, but still a great ride.
Flying just over the clouds is one of the best feelings in aviation. That and your first landing on your solo.
This video came at a good time for me. I am working on my instrument rating currently and approaches are what I am doing right now. Super informative video.
This took me back to a precision approach in poor visibility (sandstorm) required to get down safely after a mission in Iraq. Well executed, gents, just like our drivers did. Fly safe.
I love IMC. And this is an example of why I was taught to remain skeptical on an approach that you'll get in, and assume you'll go missed. Psychologically it relieves the burden of making a decision so to speak, and procedurally it forces you to be ready before you begin the missed approach (not only to brief, but frequencies of any navaids already on standby). The funny thing is one of my lowest approaches was not indicated as such on the METARS just as I was beginning the descent. There was a ball of moisture sitting just over Martha's Vineyard as I was coming in, and a Jet Blue 737 was coming in first. I knew I would be using the procedure to descend but the METAR (which was old) indicated marginal conditions. Needless to say there was about a 400' solid ceiling above the airport (100' above minimums for the procedure) when I was cleared on the approach, but because the METAR only reported that as scattered at that level I had no idea how low it was going to be once everything turned grey and rainy/misty. But I went in with the mentality of assuming I wouldn't make it down, that I would have to return to the mainland where the weather was VFR, but ultimately I made it in and it was nice and clear after the cloud deck was penetrated. After I shut down I looked at the METAR again on Foreflight and it had changed of course to low-IFR/light pink, to which I exclaimed aloud, "no s*%t." ;).
Fantastic video. I’m liking your use of music to emphasize tension. I’ve been watching your videos for a while now. The constant improvements on editing and musical score is evident and damn near perfect. Very well done.
This was a very impressive video and these guys were the true embodiment of professional pilots. I've done gobs of IFR flying in my younger years as a commercial pilot here in Alaska down to these kinds of minimum situations with plenty of "go-arounds" at DH. Anchorage is terrible with fog during the winters. I definitely would not want to do what these guys were doing in a C-180RG because of the icing potential here in Alaska, but I guess they can get away with that sort of thing where they were operating. All of my flying has been in larger stuff, Cessna Caravan, DeHavilland Twin Otter, Beechcraft 1900, DeHavilland Dash. So.....much better tools to handle icing. Both of these guys showed me they knew their S..t.
Really great job sharing the responsibilities in the cockpit in this challenging landing. It shows how important CRM to a successful. Sure, that landing would have been possible solo, but at about eight times the stress, do you really want to try that? Nope.
Seriously great communication between both of you... nicely done!
I love seeing these approaches right down to minimums in real life IMC conditions. Thanks Josh! Happy New Year
Awesome video guys. I'm doing my instrument stuff now and this is an incredible flight. Great CRM. Utilize all tools you have in your bag.
Another awesome video Josh!!! Definitely one for the books as you said. I really enjoyed this one, I'll be checking out the full length on cockpit club. The CRM was superb, you guys worked like a well oiled crew that's been flying together for a while. Great job, Thanks!
Terrific video! This is a great training tool and works well for recurrency . Well done guys!
Makes me want to get my IR. I got my PPL at SGL in 2009, and I instantly recognized the cajun accent of the Controller on the video. He is a very good, laid-back controller. I think he has been working at SGL for a long time.
Nice teamwork.
That was beautiful. I love such difficulty. Times to remember.
Josh, great video. Great example of cockpit teamwork and procedures! Awesome.
Well done guys. What great team work!!! So professional and well prepared for minimums. IFR at its best.
I’m working to finish up for my written test for the IRA exam and you both have encouraged me and other IFR flights that I’ve been on with you both and Angel flights and May God be the First in everything
Great crew good flying
Great Approach. Maybe on one of your next hand-flown ILS approaches, you should talk about setting up your HSI and how it interacts with the 430. Turning your CDI to the intercept course to be flown, then turning your heading bug before turning on final. When to go from GPS mode to VLOC mode.
I'm not sure what I'm more impressed by - the good instrument flying, or the fact that you knew the Ronald Reagan quote.
He is a full blooded American Texan. I would be shocked if he DIDNT know it was Reagan 😂
False. Doveryai no proveryai
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trust-but-verify-an-untrustworthy-political-phrase/2016/03/11/da32fb08-db3b-11e5-891a-4ed04f4213e8_story.html
Awesome 😎 👏
That's barely a quote and he didn't say it first.
That he knew Reagan said it, that is not nothing.
Though, I question the sanity of any practicing Republican these days, I mean, fucking Reagan lied and about important shit--"welfare queens" for example was based on one grifter who went to jail, there weren't many more.
Indeed, FAR MORE at the top grift ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more from everyday Americans: stimulus for big business is ALWAYS easy to get Republicans to vote for (they only care about the deficit when Democrats are in charge of proposing help for the people).
However, help for the average Americans? Unless Georgia goes blue the next stimulus for regular Americans (if there even is one) will be $50 in Kohl's cash, a Bed, Bath, & Beyond 20% off coupon, Dunkin Doughnuts One Free Beverage card, and a two for one pizza coupon IF WE ARE LUCKY.
I'm not anti-conservative, we need BOTH SIDES, that was ALWAYS the secret to our success, that was PART of what made America different, debate across the political spectrum and then COMPROMISE--our best ideas are often part conservative part progressive.
But the GOP today is corrupt & full of shit.
Don't worry, though, the Dems also suck, just NOT QUITE as bad. Their stupid idealists, who ignore their own hypocrisy--which is the best one can say about 99% of Washington Republicans.
Republicans are, from a certain perspective, 10x more socialist than Democrats: tariffs are socialism, duh!
Big government (in the form of massive military) is socialism!
Farm subsidies, socialism.
Bailouts for corporations, socialism.
Protection from liability, big government socialism.
If #MoscowMitch had his way, if these vaccines turn out to have a side effect because these companies were, lets say, to have KNOWINGLY cut a corner, Mitch would want to take away our right to sue them.
If your companies demand you go to work, even in defiance of shut down orders, and you do to avoid being fired, Mitch wants them protected from liability for that.
I'm just saying.
Nacy Pelosi is a bit of a hypocrite--not as much as say, Trump. And sure, Chuck Schumer is a schmuck, but both of them want to help average folk.
Republicans mostly just want to help those who give them money.
@@1450JackCade Dude I think you're on the wrong channel
A relief to see those runway lights
All I can say is WOW! I would not have wanted to be on that flight. 100 and you finally see the runway. That was a pucker approach. Amazing what instruments can do.
I didn’t hear a call out, but based on the sudden jerkiness at the end, I take it you decoupled AP when he announced runway in sight? Love the added safety of calling out sterile cockpit, altitude remaining, “guarding controls,” CRM with one pair of eyes inside and one pair outside, keying pilot activation twice, and the final GUMPS and configuration call. And the appreciation of using the best available approach and runway lighting option, under the circumstances. Only thing I’d add is “what was the weather like the next day?” No unnecessary risk 🥸
that Skylane RG looks beautiful!
In the early 80’s I was riding along with my father in his Cherokee 180 on a trip to Richmond from Charlotte. His instructor went with us so my dad could get some time “under the hood” as part of his IFR training. On the return to Charlotte on Sunday night, a winter rain storm had fogged in the Charlotte airport. Similar to this video, we had a long instrument approach in the dark and fog. When we were about 200 feet from the runway, we saw the high intensity lead-in strobes, and about 20 seconds later we broke out less than 200 feet off the ground and touched down maybe 30 seconds later. As we rolled out, I looked out into a nearby parking lot. The tops of the tall lights were just into the bottom of the soup. We were likely the last plane to land that night.
As the approach dragged on, I became more snd more anxious bc you couldn’t see anything but the fog around us, illuminated by our lights. It was definitely a little bit hair raising.
Another fantastic and professional video. Would expect nothing less. Great job man.
Hey Josh! Absolutely fantastic video. Take care guys
very entertaining CRM session, nice to have Troy on, and see his panel in use
That was intense. Absolutely loved it
Really like the video. Especially the CRM you guys worked really good together:
Amazing approach and resource mgmt. You both knocked it out of park in this video. Thanks for sharing.
Great video as always, getting ready for my IFR check-ride so Ive watched this one a bunch. :) That GFC AP really is amazing. Great Flying!
Impressive... loved when the runway lights came into view at the last minute... what a relief, eh? Nice job.
One word.....INTENSE !! I was nervous even though I knew everything would be fine. Have to disagree with one comment you made.....that was not fun lol !! Like I've said many times before Josh, there are 1000's of pilots out there that should not be flying around in IMC conditions. They are not nowhere near as qualified as you but they think they are.
There is a many times like 11:23 you called for a sterile cockpit, and we just chatter away all the way till the ground 😎
Another great video
Overall, an excellent video with a superb example of CRM. That’s not easy without specific CRM training. Mapping out who does what is essential. Very impressive.
I would suggest, however, that killing the strobes and landing light makes flying in the clouds at night much easier. If the landing light is desired, wait until breaking out, because the reflection from clouds/fog can be so blinding that the runway becomes invisible.
In over 45 years of occasional instrument flying, I’ve only had one approach to absolute minimums-I was starting to push the throttle forward when that beautiful runway at old Denver Stapleton came into view. It’s a great feeling, right?
Great video - pretty intense coming in so 'low'. Saw the flashing lights and the runway about at the same time. Hope you had a great Christmas and a great New Year coming up. Take care - be safe. 'Spin'
Great video and an example of crew coordination!
Great video guys, wonderful teamwork.
Now that’s the way to do an instructional video. Gives a real world view of IFR to minimums for those of us who may never get that close.
This was awesome guys. Great CRM. That runway needs rabbits : ).
God bless you.
This is a very good video, real life solid IFR in a Cessna. Well done! And what a challenge to do this without somebody in the tower, this is forbidden in Europe. Imagine the runway lights would not switch on. Respect! Regards from Bavaria
What a surreal expirence, coming out of mist and seeing the runway like that!
This was scary...excellent airmanship by you guys! Thanks for the helpful tips.
You two made a great team. Excellent use of CRM.
Awesome IMC flight Josh and PIC! I was on the edge of my seat chair flying and waiting to see the runway lights! Then when you saw them they were so close! Happy new year!
Great video, thanks for sharing this.
OMG, what an amazing approach.
Mind blowing.
I love you aviation videos.
It bring a smile to my face.
Thank you.
I'm in the comfort of my dining room and I had full sphincter lock @ 200...Nice work
Great video. Very informative and shows the value of sharing piloting duties and coordination os IFR workload. Well done.
Well done, Josh. Really enjoyed. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Makes me wanna get my IR even more. Good job!
Good work and nice pilotage.
Pucker indeed. Nicely done.
Well done. Well done.
Wow wow wow, SUCH a valuable video, thank you both so much. Getting real close to finishing my instrument rating and this was awesome. -out of KVUO
Thanks. Enjoyed the flight.
beautifull aproach!!!
Great video of real world IFR
Gorgeous aircraft.
Amazing teamwork. Just goes to show if you prepare and plan ahead it makes the job a lot easier
Great video mate 👍
Good work on the crew coordination. One suggestion is if you are pilot not flying and get a clearance for a heading or altitude, confirm with the pilot flying that is where he is now going. Make sure you both are on the same page
You guys just made that look so easy!
Awesome Josh!
Excellent video of an LPV Approach. Is it common to hear that whistling when in solid IMC? I've heard it's pretty common in a cessna.
Nice flight. Thank you for sharing.
Yes, the struts whistle on Cessna 182's! But only in visible moisture.
Thats qualifies as PUCKER FACTOR ! Thank God for stobe lights ! NICE JOB ! 🤠
Excellent video as usual, thanks for sharing.
That was straight textbook
Because of you, I have since decided to start flying for angel flights right when I get 250 hours. Thanks!!!
Whats angel flights?
Thats what ya call dicey. Good job.