Buying My Grail Pen 4K
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- It is finally mine, the Montblanc 146 with a Flex Nib! But is it all that I had hoped for? What happens when you own one of your Grail Pens? Is the struggle over? Let's see...
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I appreciate you being so honest about your experience with this pen. The "idea" of the grail pen sometimes doesn't hold up to the reality once you get it in the hand.
Here, here! Thanks! I appreciate your watching.
Hemingway, what I love about your channel in your videos is that everything you talk about turns into this beautiful poetic love letter to the item or feeling you’re talking about.
Thank you so much for saying this. It means a lot. Thank you!
I love this honest review that deals with the "headspace" one has acquiring new things and what inevitably happens when fantasy encounters reality and the facts around the original expectations. That you spent this money on this pen and are honest to admit it was not what you expected takes guts. I typically just delude myself and act as if all is fine. But just below the surface I always feel a nagging pull that all is not perfect so I "get by" with it. I liked the mystery of not knowing where you would end up in this review until halfway through the video. Indeed this video can be viewed as a metaphor and general essay for all desire and fulfilment and its potential disappointments. If your title had been "Buying My Grail Pen: Epic Fail" I would never have been pulled in. I notice also that this is yet another outlet for your creative writing. Keep the videos coming!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I think you get what I was aiming for better than anyone else. Just having you relate this back to me, makes me feel so validated in my pursuit for a very particular line of argument that I presented in this video. Thank you! I wish I had some sort of badge to give you that says friend of the channel because that’s what this means to me and I appreciate it greatly. I am so glad that you enjoyed this and I hope that you get to see some of my other work as well. Thanks very much and to stop by again and keep in touch. All the best.
Amazing, as always! The video and editing are top-notch! Love this newer style of video your producing these days. So much more interesting and entertaining than a standard review. Thanks, Hemmingway! Looking forward to the next live chat tomorrow! Keep up the amazing content, incredible presentation in every regard!
Thank you so much! That is terrifically kind of you. I am so glad that you like it. I think I am finding my own voice on here and I am definitely striving to make these videos interesting, informative, and entertaining. Thanks and see you on the Live!
Thank you so much for showing this beautiful pen! It is indeed a grail pen! I want to acknowledge how magical this video is and how peaceful I felt after watching it! You inspired me to write and be creative, to go out and enjoy a good sunset, to hear the sounds to the words being written, and to get immersed in the beauty of simple life 🖋❤️🥰 I wish you And your family a wonderful day!
Thank you so much for the kind comment. I am so glad that you enjoyed it and that it spoke to you as much as it did to me. I realize that I am the one who makes these things, but sometimes the footage, subject, music all come together and form something beyond what I was expecting. I am so glad that it inspired you in some small way. Have a wonderful weekend!
Collecting is a voyage of discovery. If we knew what we really wanted beforehand, we'd just get that perfect pen and not have a collection at all.
I haven't really been able to get on with flex writing, so I'm happy with stubs which give me the ability to vary the line in different ways. Like you, maybe one day I'll be willing to spend the time to learn calligraphy.
Thank you Brian! This is an insightful and kind comment. Thanks. I agree completely. I love a good stub nib too.
Beautiful presentation. Thank you.
I think my experiences mirror yours. It is only a "GRAIL" until you acquire it...... Then it's off to another GRAIL quest. That has to be a significant part of why we love fountain pens.
Life in the rabbit hole! ;). LOL
So true! Thank you so much for the kind comment.
I’m having my Montblanc 146 with M nib grinded to an italic nib for line variation. Thanks for the great video! I appreciate all the B-roll shots and music. Very entertaining presentation!
Oh wow, very nice! Is MB doing it or someone else? That sounds like a nice move. Let me know what you think of it when it arrives.
Thanks so much for watching the video. I am so glad that you enjoyed it. This one meant a lot to me. Thank you!
I had a similar experience with a flex. I bought and used my first flex nib (Not MB) this year and felt there was more to desire or more specific I didn’t have the skills to use it but I decided to keep it in my collection. One day I’ll appreciate it. Over all I think you bought a classic pen that will never go old. Thanks for sharing your story
Thanks so much! I am glad you enjoyed this video. The story continues in other videos. My thoughts keep evolving with this one. It is truly a Classic. Thank you!
Your honesty about owning your grail pen is wonderful. I wanted a Pelikan for a long time before I bought one. I thought that I was going to get an M200. I went to then Bromfield pens and was disapointed, in my head it was as big as the M800 -- I didn't get it that day, but I did get a lovely pen. It was many years later that I did get a M800 and then the M1000 - You really need to write with pens.
That is the bottom line, My Friend! Lovely seeing you at the Pen Show too! This is why I tried to demo as many pens as I could, but then I got sucked into so many great conversations.
Great video thank you, just discovered your channel a true gentleman.
Thank you for the kind words. Welcome!
Great video! I am reviving a 146 from probably the late 1980s. It is in beautiful if dirty shape and this was the right video to fan the flames of hope that it will write like a champ! ✒️
Wonderful! What a great project. Thanks for watching this.
Hey Hemingway, Great video and I appreciate your honesty with this pen. Do you think you could consider making a video on the best pen cases for travel, work, etc.
Thank you very much! Sure, I could do that. Thanks.
I often experience this when buying pens. But I still love collecting. Great video.
Thanks very much! I am so glad you enjoyed it.
The “grail” item of any kind is always a difficult thing to comprehend. For a collector, the grail pen might only occupy a slot in a display, never to lay ink to paper. For the romantic, the grail pen may contact one to the past or to an idea. And still for others a grail pen is simply a strong preference for the beautiful combination of color, design, feel, and fit. But once you obtain that grail pen then what. How long can you will you be satisfied with the grail before another one catches your eye or you develop a different preference because you have gained experience with other pens. To me the grail pen may not exist in reality but in our imagination only, which is what often keeps us looking for it and enjoying the adventure, secretly knowing we may never find that treasure.
Beautifully written, Matthew! Thank you. So true! This is the quest and the unquenchable thirst.
Yes!!! Matthew, I've only been in this hobby/collection/obsession for about 5 months now, and I think you nailed it for me! I thought my grail quest was over when I bought my first (of two, now) Lamy 2000. However, I've now come to realize this will be a never ending quest and adventure! And I'm perfectly content with that now. Great comment, thanks for articulating exactly where I'm at right now.
you never cease to gain my attention to listen carefully to how you describe each fountain pen in detail with full sensation for the experience , just amazing !
i noticed that most of reviewers stated that Montblanc calligraphy pen is found to be not what they expected , they said it flexes only when Applying pressure while writing and not a very wet writer.
i thing we can find the line variations best in broad nibs and that from my experience with MB le petit prince 146 , i wish to try Pelikan to test it in line variation , what do u think?
Thanks so much for the kind words! I definitely agree that stubs are far more pleasant!
Always well spoken. Thank you.
Thank you so much for watching!
Well put sir!
What's interesting with our "little obsession" though is that it's always changing and evolving. Who knows, two years from now you may be on vacation somewhere on the far side of the world and you so regret not taking your 146 with you😊😊
Thanks so much. You couldn’t be more correct. There are follow up videos to this one. The story continues! Thanks for watching.
Dear Sir,
Your videos are really mesmerizing as if you are telling a tale.
Whole my mind and body seems to be captivated watching your videos and flow in the journey of fountain pens..
Please do keep posting wonderful videos and also please don't forget to review Indian Brands Fountain Pens.
Stay safe, healthy and happy,
With love and care,
Vivek Kumar
( Dehri On , Sone , Bihar, India )
Hello Vivek! I love Indian Fountain Pens. I will not forget them.
Thank you so much for your kind words. I am so glad that you are enjoying my videos.
Stay well and check in again soon. Wishing you all the best!
Hello, everything described is very interesting. However, I am impressed that you have not made a program (or I have not seen it) of the most reliable, sober, efficient and effective pen ever made and still not equaled, the PARKER 51 (vintage models). If I had to experience a situation extreme and emigrate “with nothing on” as my grandfather had to do in 1920, the only pen I would put in my jacket pocket would be a “51 black/steel.”
I do have a vintage Parker 51, early 50s. But I am not the biggest fan of hooded nibs. I should get on that though. 2024 for me will be the year of the vintage Fountain Pen. Thanks so much for watching.
Definitely enjoyed the video. The 146 is an interesting pen and I once thought I'd own one someday. But even though my first fountain pen since rediscovering them about 13 years ago was a Montblanc Chopin gifted to me by my wife, I've since lost interest in the brand. I still have that pen, but not much interest in acquiring more.
I also learned that you and I have quite a few common interests. An unusual passion for fountain pens, as well as a love for guitars, watches, pocket knives and not a lot of interest in fine or extra fine nibs. You have lots of good books as well. Cheers.
Thanks so much, John B. Yes, we do agree on those things and probably many more. Thanks for being here.
Thank you for sharing this with us and doing it in a way that truly felt like a journey with highs and lows. I'm very sorry this pen didn't feel like the one. For some reason it seems impossible to make a nib with the same touch as vintage flex pens. The closest I've tried is the Pilot FA number 10 nib (like you would find on the 912 or 742) the flex and snapback are close, but still not exact and I can't use it for creative writing. It's wonderful to take your time transcribe a text or write a letter that you drafted previously when your mind is just focused on the shape of the letters and the flow of ink. Quite relaxing. You probably already tried this, but what about a wetter ink? At least with my Pilot 912 the width of the line gets significantly wider with really wet inks, of course that comes at the cost of a more noticeable line variation.
Please let us know of you decide to exchange the nib, word of advice. The nib exchange period for Montblanc is only a few weeks, six I think...
Also it's good to see another fellow guitar player! At some point it was hard to keep focus on the pen.
Thank you, My Friend. Nice to see you back in my comments. I am not going to exchange it. I do rather like it. It’s just not what I was expecting. The fault is with me. It is stiff because it is meant for calligraphy and so it snaps back. I wanted it floppy like my Egyptomania. Unrealistic. Thanks for sharing your journey and for the great suggestions. Speak soon.
Love the video, I had been looking forward to it! What a great pen, I hope it grows on you! Also love the format, well done!
Thank you David and thank you for being such a good friend of the channel. I appreciate it. I am trying to make even more beguiling and interesting videos for you to enjoy. So happy you enjoyed it. Don’t worry about the pen; it’s a relationship and has its ups and downs!
Les Paul, Telecaster, Stratocaster, plus mont blanc wow. Just wow! I only have pilot custom 823(m).
Thank you very much! That one 823 is all you need. That is an awesome pen!
Loved this! ☺️
Thank you!
Keep it. 2 years to break-in. Then see the amazement
I have. Thank you. It’s already greatly improved. Thanks!
Looking dapper as always Mr Jones!
Thank you very much! Very kind of you.
@@HemingwayJones As I am watching I have some editing tips, maybe they’ll be useful so I share them here:
1. Try to keep a flow and orientation with you cuts to avoid jerky moves, like the cut at at 1:29. Instead of going one way and then back, switch to a different shot and continue the flow of the movement in the shot
2. Play around with zoom. A very subtle zoom can create some interesting dynamics on your shots
3. Shoot some videos with a high framerate and then slow it down to get a smoother movement
I was being cheeky with that cut, because it went along with the music. I probably should have used something else. I do some post zoom. I cannot zoom on the camera I use, but I zoom with Ken Burns in FCPX frequently. I am not sure I understand your 3rd advice, I shoot at 30 fps. Should I shoot in 60 if I want to pan or something? Any help is appreciated. I am literally making all of this up as I go along; teaching myself editing and shooting. Plus all of this is shot on my phone. Thanks!
I bought this pen recently and it's the first one my daughter took an interest in, as her friend recently received a Manuscript cartridge calligraphy pen for her birthday.
I think I've spoiled my daughter for any other pen...
You have chosen wisely! It’s a wonderful pen for your daughter. All the best!
Appreciate the shared insights! I happen to think you may be closer to your "grail pen" than you realize. Have you considered doing the nib swap (for a broad) and then engaging the services of a nibmeister to re-grind it to your specifications? The broad swap gives the nibmeister maximum options. I asked Mike Masuyama ("Mike it work" to regrind my Pelikan M800 medium to a flexible, fine cursive italic some years back; it changed my "good fancy pen" into something that is perpetually inked -- I feel deprived if I haven't written with it for more than a week.
That My Friend, sounds like an excellent idea. I am going to keep this pen this time around, but I see the occasional B MB146 in the used market and I may do just that. Thanks and all the best.
Hi Great video as always. I have learnt over the years that no modern pen will write like a vintage flex, the Waterman Number 7 is the pinnacle as far as I am concerned. 🤗 Cheers, and all that best on your quest.
Thanks so much, John! I appreciate it.
I am new to collecting but have some vary nice pens. I was recently given a new Montblanc LeGrand 146 with a medium nib. I was expecting a religious experience when I started to write. Aaaagggghhh, not so. It was like writing with a dull stick. I’m sure that I got a bad nib but my anticipation was replaced with frustrating disappointment. Especially for the amount of money it cost. I will now see how good the Montblanc customer support is.
Hello Steve, that is such a disappointing story. So sorry. I do hope this is settled to your satisfaction. Wish you all the best.
Aziza, from Gourmet Pens, another RUclips pen reviewer, loves her 146 calligraphy pen. Her skills are more developed like Rembrandt, where we are still learning to paint by numbers.
You have a mighty fine tool for writing and I'm glad you are keeping it.
Good luck in your search for that special nib; May it be attached to a beautiful pen like the 146.
I watch Goulet but I haven’t seen that. I think it is excellent for someone with skill, but I think the casual writer should take note. I had my first Spencerian class yesterday with Montblanc so there is some hope for me. Some! I am definitely keeping the pen though.
@@HemingwayJones I've dabbled a bit with flex nibs. They definitely require more pressure than normal writing and will bring about hand fatigue. Beautiful for the artists among us, but not for my style of lengthy prose writing. Enjoy your classes; are they in-person adult education type?
@@JerryBearry They are the Montblanc ones done over the web. It's not bad to see what they are doing and she gives feedback if you scan it to her later. I am enjoying it and learning a bit.
I half expected Ric Flair to make an appearance after that music played. WHOOOOOOOO!!!
Awesome! Hilarious.
I was able to acquire my Grail pen, a Montblanc 146 on the used market at a reasonable price, and yes, it is a real one, not a counterfeit. It has been left too long with ink in it, and I has to flush it out several times to get rid of the residue of dried ink. Now it writes perfectly.
I don't have a huge collection of fountain pens, perhaps two dozen, but this one is the one I reach for most often. There are a few others that give me the satisfaction and pleasure when I write with them, one of those is a vintage Platinum pocket pen with a 14k gold nib.
I'm sorry that you are disappointed with your Montblanc 146, mine has surpassed my expectations, and I no longer have desires for more or different pens!
Hello Mike, well done! You did it the right way. I’d love get another one with a medium nib, non flex. Buying used is the way to go.
I have a complicated relationship with mine and my disappointment was based on not knowing how to use the nib. My feelings have evolved and we are getting on nicely now.
Thanks so much for watching. Please do stop by again soon. Good luck with your wonderful pen.
@@HemingwayJones Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your honest reactions about this pen. You make good points. But Montblainc certainly does make an elegant pen.
Absolutely! The fault is all within my expectations. I still love the pen.
My family bought me a MB JFK when I got my MBA. Its really my grail but it can be used as a daily writer. I turn 50 next year and I think my partner is intending to get me a 149. But at that distance from the paper, Im not sure it can be used daily - its more a signature pen literally.
Congratulations on the JFK. That is an extraordinary pen! Also, congrats on your MBA. That is a very big deal. A MB 149 can absolutely be your daily pen. I used one almost exclusively for a few years. It is remarkably comfortable. The only issue is all of that screwing and unscrewing of cap. But many pens have that issue. A marvelous choice. Thanks for watching and congratulations!
Your "controlled" disappointment is apparent and admired - I went through a couple of similar disappointment before settling on an Osmia 883 flex - by the way - I am also a Medium to Broad pen writer - continue to seek
Thank you very much! Thanks for the tip and all the best.
Explore, discover, share... Thank you H! Inspiring as usual. 👍
Thank you very much! That could be the channel’s Motto.
@@HemingwayJones Haha it's all yours H! PS. Enjoyed your 'live' with Brian yesterday.
@@h3o296 Thanks so much! I appreciate it. I am glad that you got to see it. All the best.
I liked your video and I am especially interested in the colors of the inks and what make as well as the papers if you could shed some light on that. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
I think a fun topic would be to dedicate an entire video to asking your viewers to talk about their grail pens and share their thoughts; both good and not so good. You never know where the next great nugget of information will come from. For instance, I never heard of Santini pens until I read the comments on this video. It could be a great way to get your viewers to interact with each other...
That is a brilliant idea! I am trying to figure out how to use encoding software for my Live so that I can have guests. This would be a perfect use of that. Thanks!
@@HemingwayJones The live chat would be great! I actually hadn't thought of that. I was thinking of having the viewers share their experiences in the comment section. If the majority of your viewers are like me, we are not always around for a live chat. Like a library, I enjoy reading the comments at my leisure. Some of the insights might give a shortcut for someone newer to the hobby.
Instead of merely asking about which is our grail pen, also ask how our experiences along the way lead us to our decisions, etc.
So true. Many people don’t make the Live. This is why I leave up the replay. We are definitely creating a great site with some excellent knowledge. I am happy to have you with us.
Hi Hemingway, loved your poetic intro to the pen, such amazing beautiful shots of the pen, in the classic elegant setting and music. I'm sorry to hear of your disappointment with the pen. The MB Calligraphy flex nib certainly isn't going to appeal to everyone's preferences. In my 10+ years journey in fountain pens, my preference started with fine nibs, and then to medium and broads, and now I'm into extra fines, and who knows where our preferences in this journey will end up. For me this is the ultimate nib in fountainpendome, as it makes my handwriting look like vintage penmanship of a hundred plus years ago like a dip nib, but there are times I like to use my other MB rigid EF or F nib for very neat script that the control a rigid nib offers. I would recommend keeping the Calligraphy nib, as it will become quite sought after and collectible down the road when MB discontinues this Special Edition Calligraphy for the 146, like it did with the 149 Calligraphy flex. Enjoyed this video, thanks!
Thank you so much. I am glad you enjoyed it and thanks for sharing your journey. I am definitely keeping it. I recently had my first Spencerian class through MB so the conversation contributes! Stop by again soon.
I don't have a grail pen. Part of it is, a grail pen can be anything to anyone. I don't think there is one perfect pen, especially with my parameters. But, this way I don't get boxed in either. I mean does one just stop buying pens if they get their grail pen?
Anyways, did you know Montblanc offers free digital calligraphy classes? The presenters use the 146 calligraphy nib often. It's really fun, and you get the opportunity to use the pen and learn calligraphy.
Thanks very much for the lovely comment. I am taking the MB class right now. It is quite good.
For me, you can own a grail and be curious about something else. It’s still a milestone on the journey and not the destination.
All the best.
@@HemingwayJones See you in class. If there is a grail pen for me it's the OMAS 360 Magnum I guess. You're correct about the journey. I just enjoy my pens.
@@ironmic9244 That is what matters most. All the best!
It's a beautiful pen and a very fine video.
Thank you very much! I appreciate the kind feedback.
i am sorry that it wasn't the right fit. maybe pens are not like a Stradivarius violin, but instead a race car, with the best parts consistently added until the race is won? maybe you can have two kinds with the same model? I've noticed that with a stub pen, that i grind to have thin horizontal strokes and wide down strokes, the faster i write the more elegant the words look. i write fast during story and poetry writing, but slower when journalling, and even slower when writing names and lists. i start light, arc down like a brush stroke with a tiny bit of pressure then lift off the stroke quickly. lately, my issue is finding a wider section that is more ergonomic, but at the same time wanting the pen to look the part, to be a kind of Autumn looking pen, but not just mushed up plastic. i want art on my pen. the best of both worlds, a Poe themed pen with autumn scene in hues of brown, orange, and yellow, with a blue sky or yellow moon behind. even if such a pen existed, i'd have to make it because i can not afford pens over $50. if such a pen existed, I'd pay up to a $100, beyond that, I'm living far beyond my means. i like your style, we have different styles, but i like yours, and you have wonderful videos. with time catching up to us all, i implore you to create your grail pen rather than seeking for it. i realize i need to heed my own suggestion. whatever you decide, i hope you have fun seeking or creating. and may your good dreams come true as well.
Thanks so much! My relationship with it has since evolved so don’t worry. I have made some subsequent videos. Best!
Haha..., I understand what you mean..., I have survived several disappointments concerning fountain pens. I was also totally disappointed with Sailor Pro Gear, Platinum Century 3776, MB 149 and 146, Noblesse et "Bohème", Visconti Pericle etc…, until I understood that each of my pens has its own life beyond price and notoriety...
I had to learn how to communicate with them...:) and from that point of time our relationship improved...
I would like to have MB "Caligraphy" and especially the MB 146.
But it's so overpriced...
Greeting from Vienna
Michael
Thank you, Michael! You understand me completely.
Another fine video, HJ! I’m sorry you are currently disappointed in the pen but I think that will change over time. When I first got my Visconti Homo Sapiens BA, I was disappointed. It was heavy, and I put a dry ink in it and it felt scratchy. Then I put Cross Violet in the pen, and it was glorious. I wasn’t aware of the times even touching the paper as the ink glistened and I was enchanted with the pen. The palladium tines have acquired a little more bounce with use. This may happen with your pen, too, even though the tines are 14k gold.
I will say that your video has slowed my desire to get the 146 Calligraphy asap. Maybe I should get a Bluedew pen first and see how much i enjoy that.
Thank you for the honest review.
Thank you, My Friend. Great comment and very accurate in so many ways. I am acquiring a certain affection for this pen forged in the trials of a rough getting-to-know-you period. Also, I am learning Spencerian via MB, so we are evolving together.
You should give the Santini Libra Italia flex nibs a go…
I should! And probably will soon. Thanks for the inspiration!
Actually, I have experienced a similar journey of chasing the ultimate modern flex fountain pen. The first FP I bought was the Noodler's Konrad. Then, over time, I tried a handful of steel flex nibs and even 3 gold flex nibs from various companies.
I came to the same conclusion that, actually, I am the biggest limiting factor, when it comes to making beautiful letters. It takes a lot of effort and time for me to just attempt calligraphy. And perhaps not surprisingly, the more 'dip-pen-like' nibs actually yield the largest line variation, but they tend to be unpleasant to use. I still like flex in FP. I have my fav flex nibs (the FPR Ultraflex and Indy-pen-dance 14K flex😁) and my no-goes. But I don't chase after the ultimate flex anymore.
Edit: I bought 2 vintage restored gold flex nib pens too a few years ago. The nibs and feeds are still unsurmountable by modern flex! BUT both are lever/bladder fill and the filling mechanism died on me after a few months (insert old bladder joke haha). If only they are cartridge converters 😅
Ah yes, Kan, it is a difficult journey. I am actually about to film a follow up on this subject soon. So stay tuned for that. All the best!
Great video again. I bought 146 after watching your unboxing video😊
Thanks so much! I am so glad you liked it. I’m sure it will be an ongoing conversation.
@@HemingwayJones I also bought the Montblanc egyptomania FP medium nib & the 149 after watching your videos, I love it (your videos & pens). I can see you put a lot of thoughts and efforts on making these videos. It works, at least made me bought all those pens🤣
@@ve5394 Thanks so much! That Egyptomania pen is so special. I am writing with mine right now. It is such a fun and special nib.
@@HemingwayJones yes I love it so much, really thanked for your video, without your video, I won’t even know this beautiful pen existed. Again, you make great videos for your pen friends💝
@@ve5394 Thank you!!!
So the adventurous quest for the holy grail continues.
I think there's more flex in my Pineider than this Montblanc, but I'm certainly not a calligraphy master as they say so beautifully.
I think I'm going to skip this one.
Thank you for this beautiful and honest presentation.
It does. I am like Sydney Greenstreet in the Maltese Falcon. Off to the next clue! The Pineider flexes more but has less line variation. Thanks for the comment.
Hello Hemingway, I am sorry to hear about your experience but I appreciate your candid share. I had similar experiences and I started to take them as part of the hobby, something that is hard to avoid, though in my case so far none that would be as expensive as yours (touching wood right now). Talking calligraphy, I encountered the same feeling with most of the calligraphic nibs with only a handful of exceptions: vintage pens (mostly Pelikan 140 and 400NN), Pilot Custom 912 with Falcon #10 nib, and few "indian" steel nibs (e.g. FPR and others) which all require less force to flex than most other example, with the worst IMHO being the Omniflex nibs from Conklin. However as far as my experience goes they are all in the EF/F category so your intuition might be right there that you're immediately getting out of your comfort zone when going flex. I think there might be an exception, medium soft from Pilot could be more in your alley but they are not true calligraphy nibs so again not what you were looking for. One thing I'd wonder is if a nibmeister would be able to either adjust you 146 nib or transform a regular medium into a calligraphy.
I was lucky enough to hit a home run with my grail, as my Pilot urushi (FM) came up where I'd hoped it would be. And maybe some idea for you: eventhough it is not even marketed as soft nib, it has some great line variation though not up to calligraphy it is pretty decent and with pretty low flex force. I'd be curious how it would compare to your 149.
Cheers, Chris
Hello Christian, thank you for the lovely comment and for sharing your pen journey. I feel that I need to be honest with you all to provide value and this is not the end of the conversation in regards to this pen and flex in general. It evolves. It’s a dynamic, and I reserve the right to contradict myself! I have discovered that I like medium nibs with some softeners, Pelikan M400, Egyptomania is probably the master, Pineider Quill for it’s delightful wackiness. We have to get your Pilot in the same room as the 149. All the best.
After trying FPR ultra flex EF nibs (very impressive) I felt like you do; I’m torn about the 146 because I don’t (yet?) completely enjoy flexing. Maybe one day?
Yes! I love the BlueDew. Yes, just try the pen first. It’s brilliant for calligraphy
Well presented perspective. I find that I write about as well with a seasoned Jinhao or Hongdian as I do with a Sailor or Pelikan. It is my hand. I have set my sights on a grail pen that will contribute to the arts community rather than make me anything at all.
Thanks so much for watching!
The flex you seek may be found in the Scribo Feel or maybe an Omas Flasibile, or the handmade Secretary of DeFlex by Pen Realm. Otherwise I have only seen this on older pens, not just Waterman, but also on Wahl, conklin, and much lesser known brands like the DPPco (Diamond Point Pen company), What I like is not the ability to flex out 2mm lines (though that is nice too) but also the random changes in line width that happen without trying on superflex/wet noodle pens. It truly feels closer to writing with a stiff brush rather than a soft metal nib. I am actually taking lessons now with a goldsmith to figure out how to make those, because they are not matched by the nibs made today.
Thank you very much for the tips. Let me know how your project is going. I’d love to hear about your progress. Thanks and all the best.
Appreciate your review of this beautiful nib. Have you tried the Pilot 823 with an FA nib? Some people buy the improved feed so the ink flow is stable.
For people lucky enough to have a pen club near them, trying all the different options is wonderful. Thanks, enjoying your channel!
Hello and thanks for the tip. I have not tried that combination, but it sounds amazing. I love the PC 823. it is awesome. I did a video on it a few months back. Check it out, if you have a chance. All the best!
WILDWOOD!!!! I’m from Atlantic City! Spent many a summer in the ole WW
I’m from Philly originally! I’d love to film in AC.
@@HemingwayJones that would be nice! It’s not like it used to be though 😢
That’s OK. I’ll tie that into a pen somehow. As long as there is a narrative, it works for me.
Thanks for that very honest appraisal. I would say you now have a goal to practice more to improve your calligraphy technique.
I had my first Spencerian lesson today. All the best!
Your experience is exactly why I am not a flex nib fan. I too despise writing with an EF or F (depending), and flexing needs patience; patience I don't have when writing. I much rather use an italic, stub, oblique nib. I get the character I want in my writing without having to exert any effort. However, the shading one can get with cursive is best with a flex nib. Have you tried a Pelikan Souveran? They have a bit of bounce to it. Another is the Stipula 14k semi-flex. It won't match vintage, but they do open up nicely.
I just uploaded my review of the Souveran. It will air 10/20. One of my favorites. Great choices.
Oh wow, Hemingway! So sorry you were disappointed! I love my 146, but as I told you in a different comment, my nib is a 0.2 mm round tweaked by Richard Binder. My handwriting is very small so a super fine point is perfect for me. I'm not too keen on Flex nibs, but my favorite is a 0.4 mm cursive italic. I do love the 146 for its size and fit to my hand. Sounds like it's just the nib that's objectionable to you. I think I'd go for the nib exchange if I were you, just so you could really enjoy using it!
Hi George thanks so much for the lovely comment. Well, it’s not the end of the conversation. This will go on and I will go back-and-forth between being disappointed and being thrilled with how beautiful it is. My issues with it are mine alone and nothing to do with the pen. It all has to do with the fact that this was designed to write calligraphy and I just don’t do that. Yes I think I would be better off with something like a medium neb but it seems wrong to change it when the flex nib is a premium and rare nib. I am just going to buy another 146! You know me. I do enjoy it, just not for flexing. It write as an awesome EF with some character. Flexing is exhausting.
You probably have no issue bringing it to pen show/pen meets in case theres another pen another patron might bring that catches your attention!
I do know at some point I would love to add a 146 to my collection. I have the petite and a barely used pre-owned 149 that are among my favorite pens! I also recommend checking out ST Dupont pens! They're coming up as my favorite luxury writing experience!
Hello and thanks for the tip! The 146 is great and this is a great pen. I just don’t like flexing it. Writing in EF it is a joy. I also love the size, almost better than the 149. I need to think about that actually. I will probably buy another in M soon. ST Dupont is top shelf!
I want the MB 146 but I'll get it if with an EF nib. Meanwhile my quest has been to study and learn spencerian cursive writing. I'm using the p Palmer method book and training everyday whole arm movement. In a matter of weeks my writing has gone from terrible to somewhat legible cursive spencerian writing. I use lots of cheap paper, a pencil 0.9 or a simple Bic pen for practising the techniques required. Flourishing and fancy flexing will be introduced once I'm happy with my spencerian writing :)
That sounds like a good plan. I am taking the Spencerian class from Montblanc. It’s very good. Thanks for watching.
Amazing! This pen is so hard to come by!
Truly! I had to go to the Netherlands. Well, online.
I just missed out on a montblanc 146 on eBay 😢 my grail pen. Maybe one day
So sorry. One day you will. It will come to you.
@@HemingwayJones thank you hj 😁
Fabulous video. Sorry for your disappointment. The line variation does seem a bit limited with the EF nib. I enjoyed seeing the guitar collection. 😉
Thank you very much! I’m glad you liked it. I am always looking for interesting backdrops. The guitars work well.
Love the video!
Thank you!
I have the Jinhao X159 with the number 8 nib. Near enough to the Montblanc for me and only a few pounds.
My daily writer is a Jinhao 80 with a 1.1 italic nib and only £10 pen and nib.
I love italic nibs. They make my handwriting look great.
I have a Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with the Falcon flex nib.
Perfection.
But they are only a small part of my private life.
I just got this pen and it was $6 for AliBaba. I haven’t tried it yet, but I will. I am going to give it the same reverence and treatment as the 149. Thanks so much!
@10:10 I love the fact that telling from the wear, you wear your GMT Master II, and same wise, you write with your grail pen and don’t baby them!
Good eyes, My Friend! Yes I love my GMT Master II and I wear it nearly every day. Brand new when I got it, not so much now. That’s OK. It’s mine and always will be. These things were meant to be used. All the best.
Dear sir, have you reviewed Indian Fountain pens like RANGA PENS, VAZIR PENS, MAGNA CARTA PENS ?
I hope you will like them..
Hello Again!
I have indeed reviewed some Indian produced Pens. The Ranga Madras and I did something on the Magna Carta, but that may have been on another platform. I’ll do some more soon.
I always enjoy them.
Thanks,
Tim
@@HemingwayJones Sir, i will be eagerly waiting for your videos..
@@BestMLMDXN Thank you so much! I have a bunch in the queue that may interest you coming up in the next few weeks. I am very glad to have you here. Thanks for the positivity!
I think the first skill of a calligrapher, is choosing a dip pen with a non-stainless, spring steel nib.
I apologize for this dry observation. But my theory is that the modern obsession with flex nibs is largely a misunderstanding? You can flex a soft "vintage", gold nib, yes, but I suspect it wasn't really made for it and it won't hold up for it. If it's pushed for more than the slightest give, it will eventually break from metal fatigue (or will bend out of shape by a too strong push). And so will modern fountain pen steel nibs, which you can make soft enough by filing holes in the right places, but at least the nib is cheaper.
I do think it's fully possible to make a fountain pen flex nib. But I don't think I've seen anyone really do that yet, despite some claims. The closest effort is probably Noodler's flex nib. But that is rather hard (you have to press really hard) and not really a pleasant or easy experience to write with. Also, while you can fit virtually any #6 nib to a Noodler pen, the reverse is not true. You can't fit a Noodler #6 nib to any other pen in existence. It just don't work. Another problem with Noodler's flex nibs is that they're still not engineered perfectly. A flex nib should mainly spread under pressure, not bend up and break contact with the ink feed. Preferably it should also bring the ink feed up, with it, as it bends, like the calligraphy Coppertone, dip pen nibs do.
Even the Noodler's "flex" nib, is in practice just yet another nice, steel, extra-fine nib. ...If you like their pens, blue fingers, blue desk, and maintenance/tuning.
You make excellent points Thank you for this. So yes, a nib truly made for calligraphy is a little stiff and hard to it bounces back and quickly. That is more or less what this is and for that it is excellent.
Then you try something like the Egyptomania that is so flexy, so soft, but not much line variation, similar with the Pineider Quill. Vintage Waterman 52 had a perfect balance. Super soft, amazing line variation, and they last. I have a 52 1/2 and it still writes perfectly.
It was definitely a mistake on my part. A false assumption. I took a Spencerian class today and it was great for that.
Thanks for the great information. Stop by and see me again.
@@HemingwayJones Well, I don't think a flex nib needs to be hard. That's just how it currently stands. But I don't think it can be made from gold, ...really. And possibly not from stainless steel either.
With current nib production methods, cutting, stamping, welding, sawing, the best results are probably achieved with alloys that won't flexback back again if bent strongly. That's pretty much also the foundation for being able to tune nibs.
I have made a Noodler nib softer, by filing holes in the right places. You want a wide T-slit where the breather hole is. That will make the tines spread more, rather than just bend upwards. And you can make it softer by also filing cutouts at the sides. (If you only make the side cutouts, it'll spread less and just bend).
You can see the same sort of thinking in some of Conklin's steel nibs, which are modifications of Jowo blanks.
The problem with this, is that my Noodler nib became somewhat fragile, delicate to mount. And, of course, if you push these nibs they will become unaligned, though the Noodler is probably slightly springier than the Jowo. I think I've attacked a Jinhao nib in similar manner, forgot about it until now. I'm not really into flex nib or flex writing. It's just that being an engineer and tinkerer, I'm sort of hardwired to do things like this.
@@HemingwayJones Well, now you've made me think about these things again. And I *NOW* think a flex nib *_can_* be made with current nib materials! The problems with these attempts at creating a softer flex nib, is that they focus the deformation in smaller areas. If, on the contrary, you keep the flex per material small (i.e. spread and control the flex over the entire nib), it should eliminate or drastically reduce the risk of metal fatigue or permanent deformation, while potentially even increase the flex. The geometry of such a nib design should be interesting, but it should also be totally doable. It might be quite skeletal, but also thicker, which should be good for the ink channel and flow.
Nib design is sort of un-innovative these days. Understandable, in view of the small production numbers and limited resources of the companies. Slits and cutouts concentrate stresses and deformation. Lot's of holes, almost a latticework, should spread it.
@@Vermiliontea I love your Engineering approach to this and I am inclined to agree. That Waterman nib was relatively small and the entire thing was flexing, almost like a brush. The skeletal structure sounds interesting. I wish I knew more of nib engineering. You are definitely correct, you need a good flow and many drop the ball there, and a reliable flex that doesn't fail. Great stuff. I like the way you think.
@@Vermiliontea I would love to see what you come up with. They carve away at the sides and that gives some relief. I think the goal is slightly different too. If the goal is to make a tool for calligraphy it is going to be different than if the goal is for very pleasant writing. I feel the 146 overachieves at the former and is great for the latter as long as the writing doesn't involve the flexing. That just gets tiring. Part of my problem is that my expectations were misdirected and that is the lesson of the video. I did discover that I love it for EF writing with the occasional accent, and that I need to learn Spencerian to appreciate what else it can do (I just had my first lesson). Beyond that, I think I prefer soft gold nib for pleasant writing, and stiffer wet nibs for smooth writing. It was an exercise in discovery and adjusting ones "wants." Thanks!
Thank you,good video! Focus more in learning the craft of writing than looking for some "grial pen" that does not esxist
Are you aware of, or or have you considered the Wahl Eversharp Decoband? It is another large, high end flex writer. Matt Armstrong of "The Pen Habit" on RUclips has a compelling review of this pen.
I'm sure this is all you need; another expensive pen to look at! 🤪
Thanks Buddy! You’re killing me! No, seriously, I’ll check it out. Thanks.
When does disillusion become enlightenment? The grail has been stringently examined, responsibility has been carefully taken back diminishing the objects magic.
Exactly! Perfect summation of the end of the video. Now, the question is, have I learned anything!? Will I be like Henry Jones Sr. At the end of The Last Crusade or Sydney Greenstreet at the end of The Maltese Falcon? Stay tuned to find out.
Beautiful presentation. Sorry about the 146 not up to your expectations! I think the 149 IS your Grail Pen.
Thanks very much! It’s an amazing pen. iIt’s just not really my thing. I am taking a Copperplate class right now, so my feelings may evolve.
I hated my 146 calligraphy. It was skipping hard starting and railroading. I sent it back and they fixed it and now I love it. Some don't write well right out of the box. The bleeding on the paper makes me wonder if that fountain pen paper ?
How do you find writing with the 146 unposted. Is it a bit short
I actually like it. It took a few times to get used to it, but it works for me. It’s very comfortable. Thanks!
If you want a flex nib that is bigger than XF try a Scribbo Feel there 14k nibs are flex nibs and they come in sizes XF, F, M, and B Goldspot carries them.
Thank you and thank you for watching.
146 would have been a Grail Pen if there was no 149. It's as simple as that. MB should have only offered the Meisterstuck Classique and 149.
There's a saying that you should never meet your heroes. This could perhaps, also be said of grail pens...😁
Quite possibly! Good point!
Hemingway, first, I enjoyed your intro for this pen. I do not own any of these but I take your word for how beautifully they write. Do they come in any different color? It seems every one I've seen in different videos have been black. Thank you for this video. BLESSINGS
Thank you! There is the odd burgundy from time to time and a black with gold streaks. Otherwise, they are a bit boring.
Pen-tastic! 👍👍👍👌
Thank you! My Pen-tertainment Network! All the best.
I would love to get my hands on a Montblanc to try it out, but would not go ahead and purchase one (at least by now). I do have a grail pen which is the green striped Pelikan Souverän M1000. But I am not going to buy it, because when I do, the shiny grail will suddenly just be another (great) pen, and a new grail will take it's place (maybe a Montblanc 149?). So I try out other pens, discover new brands and inks and always keep a distance to the M1000, because I don't want it to loose it's magic to me. But I can't tell you whether this decision of mine is either genius or utterly stupid ;-)
M1000, awesome! Do you have a pen show near you? That is one way to try these out? I think you are genius. You need to have something to strive for.
1. Swap the dang nib for something you like. This nib does not suit you. It is the nib's fault, not yours.
2. I'm off flex. I use stubs instead. Pilot Parallel for the win.
3. After a certain age, one's handwriting starts to degenerate. I advise that you target your calligraphy peak at an age under 65. Preferably under 60. This is horrible to realize, but believe me, I'm living proof.
Hello My Friend, thank you as always for the sage advice. I still have a couple of years! Thank you!
My Montblanc 146 Broad nib is my favorite pen. I'm not sure how I feel about calligraphy pens in high end pens. (I thought about getting one like yours or a 149.) With some research and experience messing with cheap flex pens, I think that you need to be committed to doing calligraphy style writing (not writing fast like you may in a journal) and for me, I think it might be better to invest in an expensive flex nib that is specifically for calligraphy and put it in a pen I already own (cheaper). (I'm looking at some from pen revolution) I'm not convinced high end pens can really deliver like a nib that is specifically made for flexing. I think you have to be really committed to writing with a calligraphy style and not using it for general use. If that makes sense.
Very good suggestions and thanks so much. I will be picking up another LeGrande and perhaps with a B nib. Thank you.
Sadly we live in a consumer society where we strive ever more for perfection. We attach our own expectations to pens, cars, cameras, watches, audio equipment etc. Somehow we believe the 'holy grail' will bring us happiness and make our lives complete. We are chasing a dream but contentment can only be achieved by fewer wants.
How very Bodhisattva of you, My Friend! It wouldn’t make for much of a channel though. All the best and always a pleasure chatting with you.
Sadly?
@@jimpfeifer7922 Sadly because some unfortunate souls torment themselves in a quest for the unattainable ie the perfect fountain pen.
I’m new. Can you buy a calligraphy nib for your existing 146?
Possibly, but you would have to send it to them or do it though the boutique. They often nib replacements, but the calligraphy nib is sort of a special edition. It wouldn’t hurt to ask.
@@HemingwayJones thank you. I have one near by. I’ll stop in Monday. What would you say is the price of a special nib ?
@@angellondian7628 I am really not sure. I have never done this. I bought mine attached to the pen. I’m curious to see if they can help. Never hurts to ask. All the best!
I would reach out to Ralph Reyes, of Atlas Stationers and Writing Regalia, to try some nib stacking for this pen. I intend to have some work done to a pen by him soon. His work is nothing short of legendary.
Nice! I had no idea. I know Brendan over there. Thanks so much. Thanks.
@@HemingwayJones Quite welcome, Hemingway!
@@HemingwayJones Make that Regalia Writing Labs! Mistyped the name!
@@keithirwin7739 Gotcha. I have seen some of those and they look awesome!
I did not notice any line variation, that is pretty shocking. If what is called a calligraphy pen cannot put down a hair thin line then jeez... what is the point? FA would do that happily for the fraction of $$
I think a lot of that is the user! I got much better as time went on. It can do quite wide and snap back to EF. It cannot do Zebra nib whispy thinness in my hands, but it can do thin. Thanks so much for watching!
Je suis desolé.
Thank you!
Couldn’t decide. Cringe or pretentious. Turns out I didn’t have to. It’s both.
Couldn't decide. Rude or disrespectful. Turns out I didn't have to. You're both.
If you don't like his content, go elsewhere. It's EXTREMELY refreshing for someone to share that their grail didn't work out. In the age of social media, pretending that everything is rainbows and sunshine gets old. This is life--most social media isn't.
Thanks!
This reflects far more on you and your limited frame of reference. This is clearly not for you.
People today tend to heavy hands. A flex nib is quite uncontrolable for modern writers. But, there are one misunderstanding about spencian writing and ornamental writing. Spencerian ask for a flex nib that could be cleaned from paper fibers when flexed and do not need a ultra flex nib for me executed. This means that the line variation when it occurs is quite sutil and the line thickness is realy thin on general. The hand shoul be firm.
That said… you have 3 problems: shakie hands; heavy hand; and the worse of all, wrong pen grip.
About pen grip: your hand is turned, suitable for italic calligraphy no for English Round Hand or Spencerian. My suggestion for you: first stop your writing and fall back to italic hand basics. It will fit well your actual hand.
Achieved a good italic you would try another hand style. But you have to know that you will need develop a lighter hand and another arm writing motricity that you do not have today. Even your pen grip need to be changed for specenrian and english hands.
Good Lucky!
Like suggestion try Lloyd Reynolds videos on RUclips.
Note: spencerian writing needs a dry pen. Ornamental writing calls a more wet pen cause the widening. Spencerian is a kind of comercial scrip: forgot wet noodles and hight line variations: this is not spencerian.
In the future to train spencerian a scratch ultra sharp nib will be ideal because it will train your hand to be light. You will be forced to have extremelly light hands. Spencerian ask light hands.
Agains, I suggest that you try italic hand first. Good lucky on your italics, you will feel much better after some minor pen grip changes and will have quite good results fast.
Lloyd Reynolds youtube videos on Italic hand
ruclips.net/video/v22dewR4izg/видео.html
Thanks for the tips, Luis! I think that heavier hands are affecting all fountain pen nibs. Slow starters to a lighter tough may be perfect for a heavier hand. I feel the default now is for people used to Bic style pens. All the best.
@@HemingwayJones one of the big advantages of fontain pens is that you can write without effort, so with light hands.
Today I can write with needle point pens normally. You can too. Staying away of bics is a good part of this. Some bics can write without effort, perhaps one in thirty and not for long time. So, no bics!