Inline Goalie Tips: RollerFly Slides, Pad Rotation, Butterfly Mechanics
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- I had some requests for a video explaining a few key inline goalie basics to goalies who were either new to the position or returning after long breaks. In this video you'll get my thoughts on improving your RollerFly slides, how to get your butterfly pads to rotate properly and I'll also help you with some of the fundamentals of the butterfly itself. These are things that I've learned from watching other goalies either here on RUclips or in person and also from playing the position in beer league for about a decade. These are the kind of tips I like to find on RUclips from other goalies. This is an incredible platform for learning how to do almost anything. Where would the world be without RUclips?
Great video Morgan. This an outstanding beginner how to video for those first getting into roller hockey. Excellent discussion about sizing and strap consideration. The two different pads is a great visual to identify possible problems for those new to goalie gear. Great job.
Thanks John! Tips like these helped me so much when I started playing the position.
I can’t thank you enough for making this video. The strapping tip was great and the best tip was how high you have to have your push leg when sliding. I think from watching ice hockey goalie videos I wasn’t using the right angle to push off. I laughed my ass off too when you said it’s hot in that garage in August with all your equipment on because I’ve been doing the same thing in my garage and sweating like an animal
Hahaha thanks Charles, I'm glad I could help. The garage is mighty toasty this time of year no question. Repetition is another secret to getting smoother pushes. The more you do it the more natural it becomes - and if you play any ice hockey after working in RollerFlys for a while, the pushes on ice are ridiculously easier.
Truthfully I have never played inline hockey. I've played street hockey on inline rinks but never played with rollerblades on. I look back at all the years of me playing and find it odd I never played or tried inline hockey. A bunch of guys I work with want me to play but I am too busy playing on the ice. You offer great tips and make this video very fun to watch. Cheers!
Hey thanks BLH! Ice hockey is the better game, no question, but inline hockey is easier to get into. It's less expensive and you don't have as much competition for the playing surface. There's a bunch of nice outdoor rinks around you can play on for free. I started on the wheels and moved to ice later. In playing both I noticed roller guys generally have really fast hands and ice players dazzle you with skating. At first ice was way harder for me because it was so different, but now I feel like the more difficult crease movement and slides from roller actually give me an advantage on ice. It's like swinging 2 bats while you warm up to hit in baseball.
I've never played goalie but I watched this whole video and subscribed because your passion and enjoyment for the game really come across. You seem like you'd be a fun guy to play adult hockey with 🍻
hey thanks BYGTraining. This game is so much fun it's easy to talk about it with a little enthusiasm. Maybe one day I'll see you on the rink!
Nice job with this, Morgan! I've never played inline hockey, though I used to go everywhere on my rollerblades back in the day. Was cool to see how the mechanics differed from ice hockey.
Thanks Kate! I used to roll around on the Rollerblades back in the 90s too. They were a super fun and huge fad. You almost never see anyone going anywhere on them anymore LOL.
@@iceicegoalie-OG haha, yep! I think I got my Ultrawheels in '89. Wore them everywhere. Had to learn to run up and down stairs on them. XD Sad that people hardly use them anymore except for inline.
I have been really having trouble figuring out the roller fly’s, this video should help me out quite a bit. Thank you!
Awesome PJ. Good luck. Keep working with them and you will love them, I promise!
Thanks man I started playing ice after 20 years and the pads are sooooo different but having problems with my strapping. This video helped a lot!!!
Welcome back Fez! The gear has changed a TON in the last 20 years. Glad the strap tips helped you.
Playing my first goalie start tomorrow so this was helpful
Alright Noob! Good luck out there. Let me know how it goes!
Chris - my knees hurt just watching
Mine always hurt hahahaha!
Awesome video! Great edit! Although this is more geared towards roller, I found some tips that I’ll be able to use on the ice. I also saw how exposed ones knees are in the butterfly. I may start thinking about using knee pads...
I've taken some painful shots off the knee because my butterfly isn't wide enough. If I didn't have the pads under there I'd get injured for sure. Thanks for watching Jared! I'm super glad this was useful for you.
Thanks this is a really helpful video, I just bought a set of g5 pads and was having the same issue with the 5 hole that you have, I took the warrior toe straps off and changed to pro laces, it's a different pad now, the pad seals great.
Thanks Rich - Yeah I didn't mention toe straps because I removed mine on these pads too. I was never able to figure out how to make them work for inline hockey. I swear by the pro laces on my ice pads and it's much easier to get pad rotation when your toes are helping for sure.
Did the toe ties keep getting stuck on your front wheel alot? This kept happening to me, I found a set of goalie skates from tour that have a little bit of plastic to stop the lace binding I have had no problem with toe ties since.
@@richrowley4407 Yes, no matter what I did - and I tried a lot of things - at some point the strap would interfere with the wheel. I abandoned them for roller (still swear by them on ice). My inline skates don't have anything to stop the binding. I wonder if something like the Lundy loop from the back of the skate, would be a good idea on the front of inline skates just for this purpose.
Great video Morgan! This was a great "how to" video for the roller flies for sure. Maybe next time you do this in the garage during summer, ditch the chesty and jersey. It may be slightly cooler...lol. On a serious note though, great explanation on the strapping and sizing tips. This will help so many goalies. Great job my friend!
Thanks Jack! Yeah the jersey and chesty was a bad choice! The videos I do on roller hockey seem to get a lot more views than the other ones so I figured I'd share some tips that others taught me. These were big ones for me and made a difference in my game for sure.
Damn bro, I use to play for Mission Detroit Stars back in the day was their goalie when I was younger, use to play Brodeur Heaton lite 4 was my pads then, and I learned how to do splits and play low on them before butterfly pads were a thing.
And about 3 years ago I strapped back up for the first time in almost 8 years, and the last I had played was on ice, so was use to lateral movements again from that. I got a cheap deal on some bombass Vaughn Visions that were in great shape, and thought I was gonna go out there like in the good ole days and shine like I use to with my boys in some bar league drop in with my old team. Needless to say bad choices were made, and in 30yrs of goalie of never having a severe injury, other than pulled groin, I was on sportcourt that was missing part of a tile in my crease, and I came across In a hard push butterfly, not properly stretched, and pads unknown to me, not knowing rollerfly was a thing.... I hit that missing tile, pad stuck like glue, I went up over my leftside and leg and tore something in my knee. No docs are willing to give me a MRI, I have had this injury for 3 years now, and my knee is unstable.
Going to see a specialist finally in 2 weeks again, to see if this one will do anything. I want to play goalie so bad again, any suggestions if I can build my knee back up to try and get back in the game?
And watching your video that was another thing I did wrong, was I remember I fucked up and went to tight all the way up on the pad, cuz it was thinner than my old Heatons, and I was use to how they rolled, and I haven't done splits in forever and pads fit wayyyyy tighter than they use to. Lol shit I was like 160lbs last I played in good prime shape, and went back 230lbs much bigger build, and I was like huh, these all fit a lil snug. Lmfao... oh well 😆🤣😂🤷♂️
Sorry about that knee. You really need a proper diagnosis. I wonder why they won't do the MRI. But - when I've been injured I can't say enough good things about physical therapy. Those people know how to strengthen the muscles around the injury so the injured area is spared some of the burden. Also don't play on a bad surface. My rink has a huge pile of replacement tiles that easily swap in if one breaks.
@@iceicegoalie-OG yeah this wasn't our normal place and a shit show honestly, I should have went with my gut instinct and not gone on it. It was sport court laid over fucking astroturf. Because they didn't wanna pull the turf but they wanted a rink in this place when they had 4 other fields of turf. So stupid, they were more worried about me suing than they were my injury. And of course I didn't think it was as bad as it was at the time. Next day couldn't walk or bend my knee, they wanted me to do physical therapy before a MRI. So stupid... we had no idea what was even wrong.
Said hey doc, do you wipe your ass before you take a shit? He kinda nervously laugh, and said no that would be silly, why?... I said because it makes about as much sense as doing physical therapy before you know what's even wrong... and he stopped dead in his tracks, and said, that's a good one. And you're right but it's insurance.
I tried PT, but they didn't even know what to work on cuz we didn't know what was torn, and the place I went to, the PT wasn't great, I shoulda looked around more honestly. But it healed and tore a few more times over the years, and its to the point I need MRI for sure. So we'll see what they say, I hope I can get back in net and can play again, hasn't been the same without it. Now I got my daughter playing and daddy wants to show her how it's done. Lol
Great video! I never played roller, so I always used to wonder how you guys approach the butterfly. I used to be terrible at it (even on ice) because I thought you were supposed to go flat down on your knees, lol. Then I finally figured out that I had to go down with my feet parallel to the ice...that's one of those realizations that took a lot longer than it would have if RUclips had been around. Of course, that was back in the days when dinosaurs, Ford Windstars, and the cast of Full House roamed the Earth.
Just a quick tip on the skate strap: I saw the strap on the Warrior pads has gotten pretty chewed, so you might want to wrap some hockey tape on the cowling/upright of your skate where the strap rests. That'll give the straps a surface to slide on, rather than rubbing against the metal and getting cut. I used to have a lot of trouble with that before I started putting the tape on and I never had any issues after I did that.
That tape on the skate to protect the strap is an awesome suggestion. I've been especially worried about the strap on my newer (black) Warriors because that's just stretchy fabric nowhere near as tough as leather.
RUclips changed the world no doubt. It's great for hockey tips, but I also use it to learn everything from fixing toilets to killing creeping charlie in my lawn.
Full House would have been better if they drove around in a Windstar with a dinosaur for sure. I don't know why they didn't think of that.
@@iceicegoalie-OG It works like a charm, in my experience. I learned it from Eddie Giacomin on a Here's Howe video I had as a kid. I only tried it with my old leather straps, but I'm sure it'll work with the elastic straps, too. If you have any issues, you can always try something smoother like duck tape. I hope it works for you because those are great pads :)
Oh, and I love the Caddyshack poster. I re-watched that about a month ago and I already want to watch it again, lol.
@@thealrightestguitarist9135 Hahaha Caddyshack is such a great movie. I watch it again every few months. Rodney Dangerfield is huge hero of mine. The tape is on my skate! First game of my new season is Friday so I'll be trying it out then. Thanks again for the tip!
@@iceicegoalie-OG Good luck with your new season and I hope the tape helps!
Nice video pal
Good tips
Thanks Diggy!
Love the Trans Am pads over the wood pile
HA! Thanks. Those are my ice pads and they are my favorite thing! They're custom Brian's pads and Brian's had to get permission from GM to use the logo.
@@iceicegoalie-OG That’s very cool. Now I wonder if your ice hockey mask has a custom paint job
@@rzgrimes It does! And I made a video about it here: ruclips.net/video/E0NKiv1tOR0/видео.html
Firstly great Video,
I play roller myself and was wondering,what floor pads you use in your room and where you got them from(would like to practice at home myself). Or has anyone else got an idea what I could use.
Lots of companies make these tiles. You can get them on Amazon. Sport Court is the brand my rink uses and my tiles are from their old rink that they tore up and replaced. Here's a link for similar tiles at a decent price
www.amazon.com/Sweet-Hockey-Dryland-Slick-Tiles/dp/B0097HCS7A?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A2SUH0XB9RS6C1&th=1
Thanks
Love your vids! When are you uploading again?
hahaha - Thanks a million Ryan. I do have 3 unfinished videos to edit. I've just been slacking. I'll be taking some time off over the holidays so I'll get something up soon.
@@iceicegoalie-OG I feel that!
Thanks for the great info! Iʻm a fifty something goalie returning to the game after several decades off. Itʻs a bit different now.
Welcome back. It certainly is different now. The old days of "stand-up" goalies is long gone and the butterfly is the new norm. All the equipment is made for the new style. But I do know a few old guys like us who still rock the old pads and play a sort of stand-up style. They look cool to me, but I'd let even more pucks in if I played that way. Stick with it Kala and make sure to stretch!
@@iceicegoalie-OG Thanks Morgan! Looking forward to it and working out with a purpose now.
A question I have for us well aged goalies is how do you recover from the butterfly? Two-leg? Popping up like a young buck. One-leg? A swift one leg then the other. Or one-leg/roll sideways/two-hands/an elbow/a couple knees/stand on your head/grunt 6 times and by the time your on your feet theyʻve scored 3 goals?
Recovering back to your feet seems like it might be one of the more difficult parts of the game for us old farts.
@@kalaalefaio5108 It's funny - I watched a bunch of videos on recovery when I first started. It's all about where the puck is, and how comfortable you are popping up. You have to be careful not to strain anything. Stretching is key but you don't have to be super flexible. You just need the muscles loose so they don't pull when you surprise them. I use all of those above including the last one hahahaha.
Do you not use toe ties, and if so what's your method behind it? Seems like it would save a lot of time with putting the pads on, that's why I ask haha
Funny you should ask - (short answer: for inline, No)
Long answer: I've been wondering about this. I tried several methods for inline and always had trouble with the lace tangling in the wheel. Almost all my inline goalie friends do not use toe ties. For ice I've always used them but recently had one break mid-game. I just removed it and didn't even notice a difference the rest of the game. I'm thinking of scrapping the whole toe tie thing all together because like you say - "it would save a lot of time" - I don't really even know what the point of them is. My pads rotate fine without them.
"I paid no attention to this video!" - Shooter :)
Hahahaha Thanks, Home Reed. The other goalies would get mad at me if they knew I was making videos you shooters could use to beat us easier!
At 6:50, how does it compare tension wise to putting the strap through the back slot in the skates? Im still having issues with my pads feeling like theyre restricting my ankles too much
I've tried it both ways. I really think it's different for for each set of pads. On this set there is less tension with the strap around the boot instead of through that hole in the heel. On my newer set, because of the position of the strap, it feels better with the strap through the heel hole. Are you using toe ties? In my experience those are responsible for most of my ankle issues. I just do not use them for roller.
thanks!
No problem, 20dollars!
hi, can you give us a tip for pads protection you use for slides, these white plastics? thx, no able to find it anywhere.
I'm a little late in answering this but here you go - These are called Rollerfly Sliders and you can get them on Amazon. If they are out of stock just Google them and you should be able to find them new for around $250 or less.
Where do you get those plastic slide things
You can get them on Amazon here:
www.amazon.com/Rollerfly-Goalie-Plates-Inline-Hockey/dp/B074W79WST/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11PMUSVWGWAEY&keywords=rollerfly+goalie+slide+plates&qid=1658517129&sprefix=rollerfly%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0
I did a video on how to attach them without the straps if you're interested.
What tiles are you using in the garage?
Hi Jamie - Lots of companies make these tiles. You can get them on Amazon. Sport Court is the brand my rink uses and my tiles are from their old rink that they tore up and replaced. Here's a link for similar tiles at a decent price
www.amazon.com/Sweet-Hockey-Dryland-Slick-Tiles/dp/B0097HCS7A?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A2SUH0XB9RS6C1&th=1
Have you ever tried toe ties? If so how does it compare to boot straps?
I've tried a lot of different suggestions for toe ties as an inline goalie and nothing has worked for me. I always end up with a wheel obstruction. I just don't use them for inline at all and for me it's fine. The pad will twist awkwardly every once in a while but it's rare.
With your leather heel strap being so tight, the pad will not rotate the right way. Put the strap through the same one that you do with the elastic, and leave it loose enough to rotate. That's why your G4 pads are Velcro, they are meant to stretch and allow rotation.
That does make sense Yoshi. On that particular pad, the rotation always worked well for me but all pads are different and the design strategy seems to support your method. Any readers should definitely experiment with this.
@@iceicegoalie-OG totally understandable. I wear G4's myself so I found that worked for me. But yes, to each their own
Can you use street hockey pads for inline or is ice recommended?
It totally depends on the level of play. In street hockey around here they use a light plastic ball that works well with the lighter protection of most street pads. For inline we use a heavier weight hard plastic puck. Some inline players can shoot that puck pretty hard and I wouldn't want to face them without better protection. But if we're talking about young kids or beginners that are not shooting very hard yet you might get away with it for a while. Ice pads come in lots of price levels so they're the safest and most convenient option. There are inline specific pads out there like the ones from Passau and Kennesky that are pretty cool and designed for that inline puck. Good luck!
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im over 40 and i tried to learn the modern style not my thing. its hard to retrain your brain after over 30 years of playing a certain way . i have my brians 2006-07 air flow trevor kid checkered pads and i play the patrick roy hybrid style. i know the modern way is superior but hard teach old dog new tricks. i might however look into putting sliders on my pads
Cool. Those checkered pads are classics! You gotta be you and if that style works for you there is no reason to change. Roy wouldn't change if he slapped on the pads again!
@@iceicegoalie-OG thanks. appreciate it. is there away to put sliders on old pads like mine so i have option to slide when needed?
@@bb-gc2tx On the older squishier pads, they don't have as flat of a surface on the inside edge but you should still be able to use the sliders. You'll probably need to strap them on like they are designed as opposed to using velcro tape like I did. Pads from 2006 are not that incredibly old and you should still have a decent structure there similar to the white Smith/Warrior pads I use in this video. Those are from about the same era.
@@iceicegoalie-OG ok thanks. will give it a try