After the US presidential debate, should Democrats dump Biden? | The Bottom Line
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- The first debate between the two main candidates for US president reopened the discussion in the Democratic Party about the viability of President Joe Biden, who struggled to finish his thoughts more than once.
Democratic strategist Orson Porter tells host Steve Clemons that there “is no upside” for the Democrat Party. And despite the calls from within the party for Biden to step down, that scenario does not seem likely yet.
Republican strategist Janelle King said supporters of former President Donald Trump feel more assured that he will win as long as Biden is the opponent.
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If Dems do not dump him, the nation will. He is not fit, I do not even like Trump.
But you still have to vote...
So, try to vote for Trump.
Maybe, you will be glad overtime.
You can believe me...
Your Friend from India
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@@user-yb4pq4my1oNo, we don’t have to vote. I’ve voted in every presidential election since 1996 (and most midterms). If Biden’s on the ticket, I’m just not going to vote this year.
@@user-yb4pq4my1o voting is not compulsory in the USA. They do not have to vote man...
@@user-yb4pq4my1oHard...NO
They can't anymore. They will lose their donors that donated to the "Biden" Champaign. The money can't carry over to a "Newsom" or anyone else Champaign
The REAL QUESTION IS.....should Americans continue to celebrate "INDEPENDENCE DAY" knowing their nation has been hijacked by a foreign nation???
That is the bottom line.
These damned Europeans seem to forget that they do not belong in North America.
Israel?
Most Americans support Israel because they despise Islamists.
The whole "freedom" thing has always been an illusion. Modern developed societies have traded one group of elites for another. Once it was monarchies and nobles, these days it's the plutocrats and political elites.
And that is the bottom line..
Europeans simply forget that they are not indigenous to North America.
America, you have a population of 350 million.
Really?
One dude needs to be in a retirement home.
The other one very far from governance. 🤷🏿♂️
the issue is perhaps the control of media (information) and the illusion of democracy...
How many republicans want to face ruin by challenging the deep state. We see what happens
Americas government doesn’t work like that. It’s dual federalism, the states which are the people do their thing and the feds which are the central government do their thing
@@azulaquaza4916 either way, a 2-party system shoves their choices down the throats of voters. The fact that independent voters account for more people than the registered democrat and republican combined make a pretty clear statement.... neither represents them. voter turnout confirms it, and the fact that someone like Kamala Harris, who get blown out of the primaries on the first round and then turns up on the ticke as vice president shows voters have no relevance
@@azulaquaza4916 the rest of the world worries about your federal. It’s the one that pains us out here. It’s the face of America that we see.
It doesn't actually make any difference whether the President is Republican or Democrat. The genius of the American ruling class is that it has been able to make the people think that they have had something to do with the electing of presidents for 200 years when they've had absolutely nothing to say about the candidates or the policies or the way the country is run.-.Gore Vidal
I think this depends on the makeup of congress and the Supreme Court. If dems had a filibuster proof majority in the senate and a majority in the house and the presidency, we might actually see things like universal Healthcare, universal pre-k, roe v wade codified into federal law, and lots of other problems solved. Unfortunately, that will never happen. People are just too lazy to vote in midterm elections. Don't say that you support the president if you're unwilling to vote for the politicians who will support him/her.
What? blame it on the voter?
They’ve had a lot of chances to codify RvW but choose to use it as a political point instead.
The majority of Dems don’t want universal healthcare. definitely not the establishment.
truth
Imagine being a 18yo American voter and having to choose between Biden and Trump
LOL Twilight Zone ep
Just be like the rest of America and don’t bother voting
They dont have to choose between 2 irrelevant old white guys. Vote 💚
Like choosing between Chronic Hepatitis C and HIV; Hard choice to make.
Please its hard enough being 18 without imagining anything else !!!
No one is forgetting this.
Someone said the debate was "The mummy vs the dummy".
while In U.K Its mcdonald vs pennywise.
Is Sunak Mcdonald or pennywise?
To be honest, Buden and Turnip need to be dumped.
Not Biden and certainly not Trump not good for our country. We need Justice for all
Americans have a choice ... They can vote for Trump, a pathological lying felon. Or they can vote for Biden, A Super high mileage man that probably belongs in an assisted living facility ! ☹
Unfortunately these old men are obsessed with power.
1:35 No one expected it?! 😅😅 Biden has been stumbling for the past year. We see it every day he speaks. Extreme cope.
Even as the DNC and the Party, has been Propagandizing that all is well, every Sane person, has been seeing the Biden cognitive decline for at least a year, (if not longer) and warning about it.
stumbling for 4 years. I've seen numerous simian performances since he ran 4 years ago
That’s what I’m saying !!
Should they dump him? Simply put, yes. He doesn't have the draw that he did in 2020. There is not only a loss in confidence with regards to his ability, but also a severe disappointment in what is perceived to be his lack of morals on the Gaza issue. If he's on the ticket, the democrats should brace themselves for the very real possibility they'd lose in 2024.
Walter Karp wrote about how parties will lose an election to prevent a real reformer candidate from having a chance.
he cannot legally be removed off the ballot in at least 3 states.
He didn’t have a draw back then 😂
@@TheRubberStudiosASMR Everybody has weaknesses. But back then his draw was bigger than his drawbacks.
If a president is just window dressing because he lacks physical health to do the job, then who is president? Chief of staff? First LadY? BTW, Trump while having energy, speaks utter nonsense with confidence. Is that the bar?
Why not retire stay happy and enjoy rest of life. Why make himself joke at world stage. Give chance yanger one. USA need strong president stop war all there world 🌍
TRUMP 2024 WE HAD PEACE UNDER TRUMP AND FREEDOM
because he’s making a lot of people rich right now with 2 wars that could easily expose him whatever info they have on him.
I agree 100% with Trump that Biden is one of the two worst presidents in American history, and that America is looked down upon in part because of Biden, and that it is critically important NOT to re-elect Biden for the sake of the country and for the sake of the world!
I agree 100% with Biden that Trump is one of the two worst presidents in American history, and that America is looked down upon in part because of Trump, and that it is critically important NOT to re-elect Trump for the sake of the country and for the sake of the world!
The fact the election is down to the two worst presidents in American history shows how truly broken America really is.
Yeah, it’s a wrap. we’re done.
It’s not. You all have other options. RFK and Jill Stein. Snap out of the illusion. Y’all can change this!
why not Harris? because she is a laughing stock of a politician. have you ever heard her talk?
Ella es la "vice" presidente y habla más buena que Joe. Estás miedo de Kamala con poder (en mí opinión )
I recommend shifting to a parliamentary system; the presidential system is not working if it leaves us with the current choices!
As a people, we watch and listen to garbage tv and radio, are addicted to the cell phones, use social media for our information and are uninvolved. A recipe for disaster which we are now experiencing. We have become distant to reality and out responsibility and a demanding bunch of fools.
Both of these guys are in their late 70s/80s with poor health. People need to be looking at VPs when they make a decision on who to vote for.
But, but, look at their golf handicaps
no one expected it ,,? please lol
Every Australian I speak to was horrified by what we saw. It was awful.
Biden - Wth even was that???
Trump - Far more 'restrained' than expected, which makes it all worse.
The defense is “Maybe they’ll forget”?
They should have included RFK in the debate
If he’s willing to throw 12,000 children under a bus I don’t see the average American fairing any better.
@@Nobodyimportant696 we should have a freedom of choice
Let us decide
They should throw him out today. He is incapable of governing.
If Biden steps down, then the Democrats would be wise to have an open convention.
The problem is that there is no one in the party to lead, and they will do everything in their power to make sure that whomever would be is a staunch corporate stooge.
And bypass harris and admit neither were up to the job?
they are only wise about lining their pockets
She said churches works is taking care of the poor? That's why American politicians ignore the ones in most need in their country
The churches owe reparations and back taxes.
Democratic hubris has doomed us all AGAIN
Ask yourself, in the real World what job could Joe Biden hope to get at your local shopping mall?
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We should have had a primary but what else can you expect from the party that went to court to say they aren’t obligated to provide a free it fair primary election
This lady sounds like the retirees with her mistakes and apologies :) what a time!
even if he was perfectly healthy, the answer to your question is a resounding, YES!
It's not so easy to replace a candidate at this point. There are lots of election rules and state laws that won't easily allow it.
unless ole joe accidentally "slips" as he has been shown to do
I agree but it will definitely never happen if Joe isn’t willing to step down. and it’s not looking good. he had a cold seems to be the narrative
The idiot handlers would have known this years ago
I am glad Kennedy held his own debate questions. What a good idea. He had time to present his ideas with clarity and did not have to bother the comments or questions of the two idiots that were making such fools of themselves in the two party debate. I think he will win a lot of support with this smart move. Would be great to have an intelligent person in the Whitehouse again.!
He’s demented
for about 5 years now
I just remembered, The last time Trump was President he was selecting young conservative judges to the federal courts at a record rate. I think it's a bad idea for Democrats to take the risk.
Money rules, all the clown asked for was 11,780 votes and he did that OVER THE PHONE! And he's running again? America is sick!
If they step over Kamala, they are going to make sure she is onboard and vigorously supports who is nominated. Kamala is a company person.
They should get Biden jacked up on steroids or something between now and the election, then the day after he's sworn in have him resign so Kamala can take over. Then watch the Republicans heads explode when a black woman becomes president. Then watch them lose their minds when she makes buttigeig vice president.
Many many people saw that coming. 😆
They were complacent enough to accept him the first time and they are complacent this time around ... Trump or Biden will both end in disaster a third candidate is what is really needed here ... MR KENNEDY you are up SIR !!!!
Pro Israel and anti science
So when do talking heads bring a qualified, non-partisan neurologist to talk about how Biden's illness does not get better over time?
ha, never.
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The Daily Mail UK did an article about it .they asked a gp who thought he was sundowning dt dementia.a neurologist thought parkinsons..w associated cognitive and motor deficits.either way...the trajectory is downwards.I am gobsmacked that the dems are in denial about this.
The "Democrat" party. She is such a hack.
they haven’t done anything for the average American in decades.
His wife needs to do the right thing and tell him to resign. It’s wrong to let him keep embarrassing himself he will be getting wheeled in by election time and getting spoon feed it’s wrong.
I’ll vote for Biden but he will lose to Trump due to low voter enthusiasm and turnout
If there is an actual "democratic" country on this planet, then Santa Claus must be real. Speaking of the Granny in Red, did you know that a school teacher got fired for saying, "Santa ain't real"?
We are not a democracy (gang rule). We are a Constitutional Representative Republic.
@@annarichardson8284
What's constitutional about *excluding* runners from other parties in the presidential debates? What's constitutional about the three branches of the government consisting of individuals from only two parties when the country has more than two? What's constitutional about some states not having full voting rights in determining the next president, like the other states? What's constitutional about reciting prayers from the Christian bible before Congress resumes its functions? What is constitutional about treating ethnic groups differently, with one having more privileges than the other?
oh we expected it...saw it coming years ago. We went from kids in cages to kids in Graves. Saved yourselves at the expense of the world as usual. Citizen fear allowed both of these men to be candidates. Sorry not sorry. I definitely think we could have done a better job.
some Democracy we live in
We do not live in a democracy. We live in a Constitutional Representative Republic.
The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.
- Julius Nyerere
Are u frm Tz.
11 million people streamed Kennedy's 'Real Debate'
RFK is a fraud.
I am sorry. I do not want to be agist, but these guys are too old for "this" job. Even if healthy and right of mind, how are these guys honestly going to represent the average working class citizen, they grew up in a totally different time. They are slow, ignorant, and stubborn. We all will be one day, that is fine, just not for a leader of a nation.
Wtf is an automatic successor? I thought it was a democracy or at least a republic
lol this interview is so pro Biden and a total waste of time. The cat is out of the bag. Stop trying to spin this.
OK, she says in the end they have to remember they work for the people.
Whenever have Trump realized that he’s working for the people?
The only one Trump is working for is Trump and his family.
How about FUNCTIONAL physically? If your brain wont work, what good is your policy?
Debate is not the job of the POTUS, yet a President must be a law abiding citizen and not a criminal.
Do you want Biden to the be the nominee
" Noone expected it"..............eeh, well......yes - some of us did......😂
‘Focus of physicality and intellectual ability’? FDR was in a wheelchair. We don’t care about that but not being able to think and talk is a bit of a problem no?
Let Joe go, Let Joe go....
Why did not she answer the question about Trump’s lies? Does anyone ever tell the truth from the republican side?
Joe lied a lot too, look at the fact checks.
Both are unfit
Trump 2024 America was better under Trump can't make it week to week under Biden !! Close the Border Trump and he will and stop wars
The adrenochrome is not working well.
He had face-lift and filler didn't help his brain
@@judithneuling638 the puppeteers like their puppets to remain puppet-like.
@@judithneuling638 its swelling from all the meds he is on
BIden needs little bit weed.
Keep Biden and show just how ridiculous American government has become
I am 60 years oldand don't care
Part of the problem is that you don't care. Grow up. You have a responsibility to this country like it or not. Rethink your strategy.
It was a joke.
U.S B.S.
I agree 110% we need more options. Just not these two.
I don’t think it’s the right time for trump & starmer. Sometimes a leader or politician is good but if they appear at the wrong point in history it could be catastrophic rather than helping. It’s better they work together rather than opposing each other & in different parties.
No they should replace him with a body double.
yeah we all know joe biden is going to forget about this and move on, not sure if we should
It’s all dependent on the donors
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He had a slow start . . . But he finished stronger _ _ _ Lets wait and see how he does in the 2nd debate . . .
Kamala Harris is less popular than Biden, and he is polling in the high 30 percents. So, overlooking her as an automatic choice at an open Convention will not be an issue; she has to compete like everyone else. I favor Gretchen Wilmer; a woman Governor of demonstrated competence who will ensure a win in MI, and also energize the women in the Party.
Sorry, but the DNC already decided, Hillary is the only candidate who can crush our faith in Democracy uttlerly forever
It wasn’t a debate. Hopefully the next will be what we expect. Fox should do the next. CNN are Trump haters!! Was a waste of 10 mins, I turned it off, and waited for people to comment. NZ.
Why is this even a question. I wouldn't trust Biden to be able to run a bath let alone the most powerful office in the world. Go, Joe, Go!! And by that I mean leave as soon as possible.
i love the part when Biden called Trump fat then they argued about golf. Both suck in their own way
No second chance for Biden, we need younger leadership and Trump lacks any shred of human decency.
If you wouldn't mind could you please detail and confirm that lack of human decency?
No one expected it?
This Brother, OP should run things! Smart dude!!!
It's cognitive decline, Orson 5:13
Al Jazeera open the conversation
And include other candidates. Stop reinforcing the lie there are only 2 options.
6:13 cringe delusions - there's no forgetting that! 😅
From blue to red colour.
Yes. End of video
11:34
I love how you all gloss over the fact that she just openly admitted that political bribery rules the day and there is zero mention of how this breaks our entire supposedly democratic system.
“40 decades” echoing the “thousand trillions”
YES
Is the sky blue or water wet??
7:35 Oop, she cleared him! 😂
In what way?
WTF is he saying no one expected are you kidding my ? Look if you peeps are going to put on morons at least let us know !
RFK jr ☯ WON the debate IMO💜 & RFK jr gets my vote100%💜🥰F the 2party monopoly,...
nooobs
I'm voting Kennedy as well. No re-electing those two failures.
you will be getting the same exact thing. I still haven’t heard from RFK how he plans on implementing the things he’s running on.
@@Nobodyimportant696 Then you haven't been watching his long form interviews. There are several issues such as home ownership, addiction rehabilitation, that's in a documentary called Recovering America, and he speaks in length of taking on corporations and stopping corporate capture. He is a pretty successful environmental lawyer and that is his area of strength. He knows how to defeat corruption.
@@StelleenBlack I’ve seen it. he’s definitely done some good things but that’s not going to help him when he’s going to have 2 parties and the establishment working against him.
This flawed democratic process will again result in US citizens electing the President that they deserve. Democrats were most responsible for electing Trump in 2016 when they chose to run the wife of a former President as a candidate, rather than bringing in fresh new talent. The stubbornness in refusing to recognize that Biden is senile will cause lower turnout for Democrats.
Soft questions
STOP SAYING "UH."
b?t? go sleep on those rags
ARTICLE TWO SECTION ONE OF THE US CONSTITUTION. READ IT UNDERSTAND IT. PLEASE.
Yea
What are you talking about? The debate was over when President Biden said, "Donald Trump was a convicted felon." that one fact ended the debate, it was a wrap after that!
Everyone is not guilty until proven guilty. Donald Trump is not convicted yet in anything until Supreme Court decides he is guilty
Trump 2024
Biden should be convicted one side Justice this is very corrupt
the delusion is strong with this one.
This woman said a bunch of stupidity.
Abortion!!! There are so many other problems!
By the way, are there any contraceptive pills in US now days?
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these two guests: ugh