BlendOS - Distro Killer or Something Else?
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Today we look at BlendOS and talk about what it can do, and what it can't. We look at the website, the containers, Android apps, and more.
#blendos #ubuntu #arch
blendos.co/
00:00 - Intro
02:00 - Website and Features
06:43 - Available Desktops
08:45 - Introducing the System (Gnome Boxes)
10:00 - Installing Programs (Intro to Containers)
14:23 - Menus
15:13 - Android Apps
17:40 - A Few Bugs
20:37 - Deb and RPM packages (failed for me)
25:15 - More System Bugs
30:15 - Final Remarks and Recommendations
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“It’s Ok, It’s Ok, at least it’s not Windows…” I completely agree.
Watching this at work. On windows. Yes. Big corp managed windows, with the EXTRA_RETARDED_OS_FLAGS=1
VirtualBox is like a sandbox Virtual Machine environment, while Gnome Boxes is a graphical interface for QEMU which is a Kernel VM environment that has direct access to the system resources, it's like dualbooting multiple operating systems and functions at the same sharing the resources that's why pinning is actually something you do in QEMU in order to not use resources that is already in use VirtualBox is adding a layer on top of the OS where you choose a limitation, and that limitation gets allocated directly on your system. QEMU allocates while using the resources, not before. CPU pinning and hardware passthrough is basically it's speciality.
VirtualBox = Sandbox Virtualization.
QEMU = Hypervisor/Almost Bare Metal Virtualization.
Nice breakdown, thanks!
just found out that this OS is maintained by a 12 year old developer from India
The Fedora Media Writer is a good USB stick creator, it works on Mac and Windows as well as of course Linux. It can't make a "Windows ISO" but I haven't had any issues with it on an Intel and M1 or M2 Macs making Linux or BSD bootable USB sticks.
Teach people to use VENTOY instead of Etcher and other choices. They are good for a 4-8GB stick, but above that, use VENTOY and just drag and drop isos to the usb's second partition, restart the computer and grub2 starts up giving you different options between the folders and isos that you have added on the stick. I have two 256GB usb's that are filled with different distros for the purpose of always have a version of linux that people would like to have on their computer. Everyone likes different stuff and not everyone has 1200/100 Gbit/s internet.
I think you're just a data hoarder bro
I keep it simple when it comes to my Linux ISOs, and just carry two 8GB PNY USB 2.0 sticks one with Manjaro GNOME, and the other with Solus Budgie, as I've found a few older machines won't boot on USB 3.0 drives for whatever reason, and then I use whichever meets the needs of the hardware, and end users needs, no need to carry around so many different ISO, and having to remember to keep them updated.
I use ventoy but some distros dont play well with it for example i havent been able to get blend os to boot using ventoy.
I give it 2 years before most Linux flavors will be container OS's. I think that enterprise will flock to them just for their performance and capability. Thanks for the showcasing and perspective. It was very well done
Time is ticking.
Not a distro killer but I now plan to load it up on a couple of VMs or machines for fun now :)
It's a good start to where distros need to be I installed it on my laptop and had some issues with, minor hiccups but i can't roll with it as yet
That's why I try stuff in vms and if they work great I install on my main
I'd like to try this, maybe, in a couple more iterations. Seeing Ubuntu works best with my hardware, I do like using flatpaks and distrobox, where I have Arch and Fedora systems setup. Not everything behaves (but not a deal breaker) and it might have to do with drivers and hardware acceleration when something fails where the container can't get that far into the kermel. Flatpaks or snaps might be the way to go for those video conferencing apps you're not gatting to launch.
Vanilla OS might be more your thing if you want an Ubuntu based distro that is similar to BlendOS. It gives you all of the same features as Blend but its desktop and development comes from an Ubuntu Base. Vanilla has all of the Desktop choices and package options from all the other distros. Cheers
13:30 you are not using two different kernels If I guess right. These Containers are utilzing the kernel of the host system which is zen kernel. They are transperent containers and would run any program on native speed which could otherwise not be achieved. It's pretty smart and just works beautiful (at least at current release). Pipewire also great to have shipped with the distro aswell as support for intel arc cards
I immediatly caught that too. Its the same kernel.
take any distribution and install distrobox😉
Its something I am planning to do on one of my Linux Mint Systems
THANKS for showing the ANDROID stuff--that is what I really NEEDED due to my security system... I can't stand looking at my stupid phone all the time...LOST one eye and the other has panoptix lens that cuts down light- so the phone is hard for me to use...
I love the concept here - but there is one thing that I think it is missing.
The world is full of users that need Windows software for one reason or another. So, how do you get them over to Linux?
Accepting that those users probably already have a valid Windows key, having Blend be able to access the files on the Windows partition of a dual boot system in order to use Windows apps and drivers natively within Blend.
While there may never be a true Windows killer, this would come close.
"Will do some simple tests": Picks a few of the gnarliest closed source apps ever. :)
sounds like its debian with a container installed? ill just add it my custom debian. thank you
I thought it was based on Arch?
VanillaOS 2.0 is going to be Debian based
I did distro hopping, and strangely I always end up going Kubuntu latest. Guess we all get stuck with ways that we work and KDE desktop is my go-to desktop. Adding distrobox to Kubuntu and I am not seeing any point to the other distros like BlendOS.
This distro wierd, i tried to make a hyperland version but its just highergrade.
It looks good but Universal Blue has them beat here.
I have never used it but it seems like you could do this with any distro by overusing distrobox/docker.
Which version did you guys try? I tried Kde in order to customize my theme as i want but it says it cant install dependencies now im gonna try the gnome version 🤕as far as the functionality is consider it works but theres hicups here and there like my mouse is offset ,when i try to close a window i have to click out the window to close it,other than that ig its not bad
This one is Gnome.
@@SwitchedtoLinux thank you, using the gnome one now it's good, maybe the kde latest version is bugged, because in that version I also had this weird bug where my mouse was offset so I had to click on the side or just off windows to close them, by the way how do I Uninstall Firefox that came with blend os, it doesn't come up in the software store even though it's installed so maybe it was installed using the aur?
5:21 "The dual thing immutability" is VanillaOS (one of A|B partitions active), not NixOS. (I think). I am using NixOS, but a bit never totally accepted the idea that is immutable. It has atomic updates (switching to a new profile in one step... preserving the old one)... but that's not really immutability. I think you mislead yourself on how NixOS works (from one of your previous video). It is not containerized... it is just one directory by program or library... and some special directories containing list of links to other programs executables (directories) [what I called profiles]. Documentation seems a bit less comprehensive [technical] now then it was when I did read it about 5 years ago. Edit: I now see that /nix/store is mounted read-only, so it is immutable.
Hello, I just installed blend on my desktop but cannot find where the wifi is nor any connection network to choose from, can you please help? Also do you know if windows can be ran like this also?]
It will be in the network settings. On Gnome (the one I did on this review) it is in the upper right hand corner in the quick settings or in the main settings. On XFCE it will be in the lower right; there should be a Network plugin on the panel.
I'm trying it on my main PC but I need to put some custom scripts on /usr/sbin but i can't since the filesystem is read-only. Does anybody know how to do this? I found nothing on the web about it.
I managed to do it from another system (I booted on another linux system that was already installed and I edited the files from there). It worked. Should also work from a live system.
Is this VERSION 3 you're doing?? Curious to see how it goes THIS time..
This version was downloaded about 2-3 weeks ago.
interesting stuff here, but not my cup of tea. I still prefer a regular, well curated distribution.
I like blend a lot. But I couldn't get waydroid working when I installed blend on bare metal. Maybe I'll give virtualization a try.
Isn't a VM the first step, and a live session is the second? I usually just skip the VM and run in a live session.
Waydroid will only work over kde and gnome and you will most likely need to run the zen kernel. Found this info on their website.
@@Emancipatriotyes and also depends on your display server ,waydroid only works for wayland systems as far as I know
Need Wayland also, wont work on x11
if Blend Os we're to get NTFS file system support it would get Windows users to stay on Linux.
I use raspberry pi imager to create iso to usb.
Is this the OS for people who don't know what they want?
That's what I'm thinking, and even after having used Linux in various forms since the mid 90's, I'm like yeah this a big NO for me, and I'm sticking with Manjaro GNOME, and Solus Budgie on my hardware as they just work!!
logout and try login as root , u won't even need a password , its not stable and waydroid doesn't really work , but its a nice idea
It is also can run Windows software?
You can run wine on one of the containers to run some windows software.
@@SwitchedtoLinux Does he using the Blend OS version 4? it can run all Distro software?
Blend OS is the Android that People That like Linux need.....
BLEND OS VS VANILLA OS 2?
A little too complicated for me.
31:50 Assuming a third declension, I suspect the plural of _linux_ would be _linuces_ (Latin) or _linukes_ (Greek)
Linux is so fuc**ked up with hundreds of distros. If they all together would've worked on only few distros then it would've been way better. And today we would've gotten a perfect alternative for windows and Mac os.
True! Immutable distros are not ready for use in the production environment at the moment. Somewhat overhyped.
I wonder how well it games.
I wonder as good as games work on an arch system because its basically that
@unclefester9113
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I'm a 69 Year Old Knucklehead. I have a computer that I built. Its got five separate drives. My nagging problem is that not all Distros use their name in the Boot Menu. Most Ubuntu derivatives only list "Ubuntu" - even though they may be Debian, Mint, MX.... or any of the others. I wish someone could tell me a work around for this dilema.
It is setup automatically with Grub, which you can override. This video discusses this, wort of:
ruclips.net/video/MN-Q5h2Iv8A/видео.html
waydroid did not work for me either
I had to use bare metal and adjust a few settings, but I did get it to work. This also had a few hiccups, but it was a smoother process.
BusyBox seems like a better option, but I'm not really experienced with either.
Fedora Silverblue baby!!!! Immutability 101. Enough said.......
Except my printer driver doesn't come in a flatpak.
You're saying it wrong, It's not "BlendOS", it's "BloatedOS"
Looks like a mess. I don't like container Linux distros.
i'd rather wait for vanilla os to do it the right way
boo hoo you have to use the terminal GROW UP
Elitists sure love to complain
Man you sure have an elitist attitude, as I personally don't have a problem using the terminal, but there are many many more out there who don't want to spend their time looking at a wall of text, and having to learn, and remember various commands, so they should not have too if they don't need too. Linux should be easy to use for everyone. So maybe it's yourself who needs to grow up!