i recall the dj mag dogpile, it was so negative for no reason I didnt watch most of any video mentioned in the video but it's so common in this community to push back against content creators in general -- as if content creators were not responsible for such a large part of this game's growth keep it up chump🔥 it's nice to see new content made on osu! anytime and regardless of what it is
your content is extremely refreshing. It's been a long, long time since I've seen good osu content. It sure takes me back to when squashy and I were still making creative videos about the game...
from my experience, osu content tends to be limited by the reliance on music for the gameplay to make sense. it sometimes feels like there are more ways to make content "about" osu than content of the actual game. it also doesn't help that every other song in osu gives you a copyright claim on youtube and demonetizes your video. but, maybe we just aren't being creative enough
Most songs now do have Copyrights on them but are allowed to be posted on youtube. I only have 1 song on my channel which is for haikyuu that is blocked in Russia only.
@@ekzrei_old True, but like I said most songs say they are allowed to be used on youtube. It will state beforw you upload if that is not the case anyway
I think on the "player documentary" side it really comes down to the person making it and what they focus on. I've seen them feel very repetitive when the creator focuses only on the pp numbers (they set a 500, and then their first 600, and then they got a 700, etc.). What makes the history of a player special is the specific stories that molded them. I've even run into some times where it felt like I couldn't tell a different enough story, which is why I ended Minute Legends in favor of more fleshed out longer videos. Since it's about the stories, that's why I ended up branching out to events or old osu! lore instead of just focusing on players. There's plenty of room for growth in the content scene, but we just need to wait for the right creator or video to come. Of course I of all people have lots of thoughts on this as the original "player documentary" guy, but I'll leave it at that for now.
I do agree with your points. Player documentaries have become stale for quite some time, I try to push better editing and storytelling with my videos, I believe my next one will show that a lot more. However I am thinking of switching things up, incorporating more of myself, like you did in this video. Though I do still think play docu. videos are here to stay, but they should be improved with better editing and switching up the format a bit.
I've been thinking about this for a while now honestly, and I'll be honest you're right. We need to revolutionize content, and as that one guy who does the documentaries as well, yeah it has gotten pretty stale unfortunately. Even I get tired of my own work sometimes tbh, so yeah I do agree that there needs to be a change and I will probably shake things up when I work on my next video
I'm in a Saow vid lesgoooo I agree with this video so much... I only want to make videos that I feel like I want to see, but I haven't seen yet. I think it's pretty difficult to come up with unique videos or ideas in this game because it is, at the end of the day, a really simple game. You've done a great job, I only have like 4 legit videos so far though. But there is absolutely a big hole right now for a new personality or content creator to fill the void left by the tons of relatively inactive people like Binfy, Koi, tokaku, etc. It just needs someone with a good personality and some innovative ideas!
yeah your content has been very interesting to watch, hope you continue creating :) That was kinda my motivation to make videos as well, just wanted to make something that I would want to see within the community
good analysis of the current content scene in osu. it's been in discussion on how stale osu content has gotten over the years and people like sst3w and b1rchh have some great ideas in the making but all that matters is time. the more repetitive content that gets pumped out (trend-hopping shorts, documentary, drama), the higher the demand for something new. the moment the community see some kind of osu content that is creative outside of these stale bread, they will consume it like mad, thus spawning a new era of osu content until that, too, becomes oversaturated. i think as long as there are ideas coming for osu, albeit they'll get stale in a couple years, the osu content scene will survive and give birth to new content creators that strive to be different great video
Mapping content was good, but it's such a niche subject that I highly doubt people who play care. Especially with what I've seen when people talk about maps in general terms like "map bad" or "I wish I could but I don't have the patience."
bringing up geometry dash was actually such a good example for how simple games can have SO MUCH content its just up to the creators to actually get new ideas or just try things out. good video!
No. While i hate it as a game, as a creative outlet Gd has infinitely more creative potential and potential for challenges, hence why the content isn’t terrible for the most part. With osu there isnt really all that much for challenges or creative potential other than whats already out there due to its simplicity
As someone in the gd community. There are some great creators out there GD Colon and Npesta. But there are some BAD shorts channels which is basically the gd acuivalent to the osu! shorts
Looking forward to see you make a tierlist of osu! content creators! Jokes asides, there's isn't much osu! content because on how simplistic it is. Hopefully, when lazer is completed, there'a going to be a lot of audience that are going to watch some content since in lazer they added a lot of whacky mods that makes people who like making videos more interesting.
there's not that many osu! content creators to begin with, I searched up Geometry Dash on YT and there's just so much variety, but when it becomes to osu! there's like 10 consistent content creators. we just need more people to actually try doing videos, maybe we should look forward for some contests from osu! staff to make some type of content about the community or the game (themes for the videos could be more interesting, I just don't have any lmao)
Kinda agree on that one. When i got into the game in early 2018 the content was pretty great and diverse like ProjectAce's gameshows, Binfy's and koi's challenges and much more which were new for that time but now it kinda got stale at some point. Keep up the good work, hope you'll contribute to the 'new wave' of good content creators 🗣🗣❗❗
about 2 years ago i stopped uploading shorts because i didnt like the idea of people spending countless hours watching short videos and i did not want to be part of the whole thing anymore. Though i started uploading again a year after because i was interested in their whole short monetisation they announced and wanted to check it out. Since then i upload videos every now and then (almost exclusively creators i have gathered permission from, only very few i cant reach out to but also seem to be fine with it) while having long breaks like right now because you just get bored of making this type of content. I would argue there is not a single osu short creator that puts actual effort in the videos its all about finding that new trend that randomly gets 5 million views. in conclusion, stop watching short content ~shorts guy
Oh yeah, this whole video pretty much my thoughts too about the videos from the osu community. I'll agree with others that this is too simple of a game for content and ideas, but that doesn't mean that the possiblity of good content is dashed. I think we just gotta expand more about what makes osu fun to people for content rather than just showing gameplay. Also take my sub, you're fr cookin 🔥🔥
osu has things like storyboard and aspire-style mapping (and the combination of both) which all got less attention by years Kinda sad for not seeing much those content at this day😢 Most recent osu video creators are just milking top players or memes
I really enjoyed making videos, but life is too busy these days. I barely have the time to play osu for fun. I agree that the standard format is boring, but I find a sort of solace in consistency. BUT DAMN I MISS NALIAN, HE WAS PEAK CONTENT CREATION
based video tbh. i stopped making osu! content because *in general* it's a lot harder to be creative on a game as static as osu! frankly (and also because i was tired of how saturated the content scene was becoming), because at the end of the day the base concept of osu! does not and probably will not change, unless you're doing 'EVERY TIME I MISS I GET SHOT BY AN AIRSOFT GUN' or something equally bizarre. honestly i think etienne's rhythm game anomalies videos were the best examples of RG player documentaries osu or otherwise. this video also inspired me to get my stupid ass back to editing 10 hours of AR11, so thank you for that
I've been drifting away from osu to try and make general rhythm game content becuase of the game's stagnant nature (no updates) Etienne videos always been good examples, but it's a shame that no one tried to do what he did but better. (Good luck on your next video)
geometry dash isnt showing any signs of dying after 6 years of no updates, and with the new update getting closer and closer the game is starting to peak in popularity again. just how much a simple community and custom maps can keep a game alive is crazy
making content on a game from 2007 is really difficult, especially something new. becoming a personality from osu is near impossible because unless you are a top player, no one cares anyway.. the best thing for osu content creators to do imo is to find another game to stream or make content on
I'm in the gd and osu community and I would like to discuss a few things! 1. Gd does have more creative content but the game has over 2000 ish objekts in the editor unlike osu which has... 3? But most gd videos aren't even creative! Mean there are videos obviously designed to get as much wievs with as little off effort put into it creators or whatewer I call them like Kayguy just make shitty RUclips shorts that don't have any effort put into them while actual creators like npesta, doggie, gd colon, actually have creativity! Looking at the OSU side of things Most videos aren't even close to being high effort or atleast good.
Hell yeah i just kinda got back into gd myself, not really the game but the documentaries people make about it (ex. "The stage that changed gd forever", and "Is Electrodynamix a demon?". Its good to be open-minded about the controversial take that people get pissed off about people claiming it to also be a rhythm game haha.. just thought i should put that out there :)
@@SaowAngelI played gd for two years and got pretty decent at the game and still enjoyed playing it, but after playing osu I literally cannot go back because while the levels are amazing to look at, the gameplay is awful. When getting into harder levels beating them honestly feels like a lottery due to how precise the inputs are, and since the music isnt synced to the gameplay (it sounds synced when you watch it but when you play it you realize it isnt synced whatsoever) playing the game is infuriating.
And documentaries about players are worse than they've been, theres almost no information nowadays you just know when they joined and when they got 1k And i havent seen map documentaries in a while I always were more into youtubers like binfy or koifishu because they were always making top tier content
I'm not gonna lie in the past few years I can't recall a single osu video that actually entertained me, everything feels like it's either built on boring gameplay or jokes that have been circulating in the community for 20 years and resemble a corpse at this point. To be fair I also contributed to creating mediocre short videos a few years back and had a relatively decent amount of success with it but after a while I got bored.
Maybe it's true that being an OSU content creator is difficult, and I feel it now and there is no progress with my channel. I hope my channel can grow :(
I pretty much stopped doing documentaries on top players since I didn't feel like making yet another player documentary and milking the topic to near exhaustion. I've recently started covering helpful topics that interest either me or the community in general and I generally feel better doing that. I probably think some people might feel the same way as I do. That might be me though, what do you think?
I never really liked the content side of osu! besides a few people who actually made the game seem more than what it actually was. I tried to made videos in the past showing the game being different, but few people cared about the different ways to play that I thought were interesting so I just stopped at beating a map without pressing any buttons and switched to make videos on other games. hopefully somebody will come around to change the content side of things because I surely don't have the power to do that.
Tournaments are hype, even though they appeal to a niche audience. I don't know about the views but i could see someone making quality content covering them and finding durable success. It would be a nice start to gain the community's trust if someone does it right. Cpol has the osu! news side covered on youtube, whether it's pp milestones, newcoming top players or popular maps' leaderboards evolution. It's hard to create anything that will outlive his content. It's simple and efficient enough. Creators must find some other angle.
that section at the beginning was to critique the whole 'effort' argument thing, but the rest of the video was agreeing to what was said about osu doco videos being boring and stuff
coming back to the comment i made a month ago, i think i sounded a little too negative on the gd community side but my point was that the gd youtube community felt similar to the osu youtube community in a few ways, some bad low effort apples here and there, but for the most part it was good and that i agreed with the points in your video
Video Essays and simple Commentaries are part of a video genre, it's not like those people can't edit any better. This is just what a lot of people enjoy to watch
I guess, but I feel like the commentary is MUCH more important for videos like these, people handle this more like a podcast than a video, but of course good editing = better lol@@SaowAngel
The comparison at the end to GD feels a bit stale. While osu! is more limited, GD as a whole has more ways to be creative, interactive, and overall just have more uniqueness compared to osu!’s stiff style of play. While yes, osu! can and should have some more creative content, comparing it to GD is like comparing a kid’s toy to a computer.
I know two people have said things about the geometry dash community already but these are just my thoughts. Content becoming stale is imo also a larger problem in GD. Usually the videos over there are just showcases of popular levels/top player beating difficult level (similar to osu scoreposts), RUclips shorts brainrot (basically the same as osu tiktoks except its even more low effort, it has a bunch of gen alpha memes, and every short is a carbon copy of each other), some drama videos, and documentaries (usually on the better side of GD content like what you said). Ofc there are people who try to come up with unique video ideas for the game, but I think the GD community suffers big time from stale content. I think the problem comes from the fact that the game is simple and easy to both work with and record like osu. The fact that we've been waiting for the next update for 6 years also doesn't help
I've seen a bunch of mr beast style of videos with gd, like making best spike for 1k or challenging best players. although can be as stale, it's doing far better than osu's content scene and dw we've been waiting for lazer for longer lmaoo ;)
i still think there's way more active high-effort gd content creators when compared to osu!, Samifying, npesta, doggie, AeonAir, Colon etc etc and the list goes on
I can agree with that. the osu content is not that good anymore and there isnt anything new. but maybe we can as a community think about what new content we can make.
this is a crazy hot take, but osu videos have basically defined the standards of EN-speaking rhythm game videos as a whole, for better or for worse. a lot of people nowadays are first exposed to games through videos like osu documentaries, so anyone making videos on the overall genre uses these as the baseline to the point where it's completely saturated with the same thing end-on-end. either that, or tier lists. please stop making tier lists. it's nowhere near this bad with scenes like the FGC (which loves their documentary formats and tier lists) but the massive difference between the FGC and RGC is that the former has actual variety in video content. I can't think of a single rhythm game "content creator" that suddenly blew up out of nowhere and defined how players value covering a variety of topics since Etienne, maybe Losermanwins, and I wager someone with their impact isn't going to make another splash for a long while, judging on how rhythm game videos still cover the same 4-5 topics and formats ad nauseam. I think osu content has mostly been "solved" by this point, but it has a massive ripple effect of stagnating potential ideas on other games in the genre through sheer attrition. people should make videos on topics that they would want to discuss, rather than following the YT grind. never played osu, but this is food for thought - good video tl;dr rhythm game players please cover stuff that nobody else has talked about
didn't really understand what you really meant, but any contect is sinusoidal and ended its period. There are were WubWoofWolf funny replay maps like RonaldmcDonald Insanity. Nalian review profiles. KoiFishu review setup and replays. binfy funny beat topplay or give supporter. BTMC highlights. Anton osu clips highlights. cpol replays. Everything just got boring. There are just no new ideas for content creators. For example: CIS streamers just put roulette for ~1USD profile review/replay review/request.
I kinda disagree with the overall message of this video. imo osu! content has DRASTICALLY improved since 2020-2021 and I think the osu! content push to commentary over Binfy or Kiofishu type videos is really good. If I wanted to “just have fun” with osu! i would just hop on the game and do the same thing they are doing, while with watching top player documentaries I am actually engaging with something that I cant do. Also i feel like i see way more videos like this one now that are discussing aspects of the community rather than just top players and maps and I really like these kind of videos so keep up the good work m8 :D
calls people shallow for using views as unit of measurement, proceeds to do the same with geometry dash xD. Jokes aside i do agree that osu content is repetitive. would like to see more people just messing around and having fun with the game although documentaries are nice. so far best osu video i've seen is the rewind 2022. (ps nice camera shots)
honestly why does anyone give dorian grizzly etc the time of day, not trying to shame you for it but im genuinely curious because these guys have been causing drama for years and years
Imagine making osu content for views. You know, the unmonetisable game full of copyrighted music, that is literally just tapping circles over and over again, that's over 15 years old, and that nobody outside the community actually knows.
This feels a bit too overly critical of RUclips shorts creators. Doing something ONCE is easy, but to do it consistently, staying update, and a bit of marketing actually takes a decent amount of work. If some was "easy", everyone would do it. If making money and/or getting views as as easy as cookie clicker, literally everyone and their moms would be doing it. Unfortunately, it is somewhat difficult, time consuming, and also just a big commitment for a creator to do all of this. Making a long-form video every few weeks is cool, but to consistently make short-form content and effectively INVENT your own genre of video is a pretty respectable thing imho. Nobody should be throwing shit towards anyone. If you don't like the content, just don't watch it, don't be jealous, and focus on yourself.
This video is more a critique of documentary and drama videos, the shorts section was just a small point when they said it takes them 'effort' to produce a video.
Amazing vid !!! IMO OSU documentary’s can be very good but for example etieenes vaxei/xootynator documentary’s but (especially in the top 100) osu! Players story’s aren’t very interesting at least games like ddr have more interesting players like piguy that have skill sets and storys no one can ever match
I think it's partially bc content creators are so keen on making documentaries on players that we're not giving enough time to see who is actually going to be iconic
Gd content is not thriving by any means. Theres the top players posting the new top 1 (hardest current level) pass and people making short meme levels that end with the beginning of a famously hard level. Or its just a cheater trying to act like a cheater but making it very obvious so people will comment. This happens with any game. Valorant, beatsaber, and tf2 both have had and have this problem. Mostly an issue with what is happening with the game. All those games (except valorant) including osu haven't gotten a game changing update in a while. So most of the good content comes from creators creating it. Ie the osu player that pretended to be a noob and was like top 10. Then the 1000$ spike challenge, tf2 with the overly produced ultra high quality sfm animations mixed in with a fast pace video (lazypurple is a prime example). But yea compared to valorant osu is doing well. 3-4 of the biggest valorant creators quit because they were forcing content for a game that didnt have any. Another big issue is over specialization. Being an 2ft(touber as in youtuber) means that you upload once every 6 months on a good year
Nah, I would say tiktoker just being tiktoker, don't know why osu people wanna involved into this scenario Soo much, Soo stupid, JUST PLAY AND MAKE CONTENT BRUH
i recall the dj mag dogpile, it was so negative for no reason
I didnt watch most of any video mentioned in the video but it's so common in this community to push back against content creators in general -- as if content creators were not responsible for such a large part of this game's growth
keep it up chump🔥 it's nice to see new content made on osu! anytime and regardless of what it is
luckily there was more people supportive of me than being negative so that gave me hope for the community
your content is extremely refreshing. It's been a long, long time since I've seen good osu content. It sure takes me back to when squashy and I were still making creative videos about the game...
Thank you so much, especially since your earlier osu videos inspired some of my videos 😊
Sytho could easily become a tiktoker for sure. He makes a lot of good maps for meme or old songs
man's too busy playing in owc
I don’t think he could aim his maps 😭
@@Floatyoat he lost to a former fortnite, now valorant player on a nm1 he definitely is not aiming 10 star aim endurance anytime soon 😭
@@fuyuv_wait who
from my experience, osu content tends to be limited by the reliance on music for the gameplay to make sense. it sometimes feels like there are more ways to make content "about" osu than content of the actual game. it also doesn't help that every other song in osu gives you a copyright claim on youtube and demonetizes your video. but, maybe we just aren't being creative enough
I'm hoping that there will be a way to make content without risking copyright issues :copium:
Most songs now do have Copyrights on them but are allowed to be posted on youtube. I only have 1 song on my channel which is for haikyuu that is blocked in Russia only.
@@MilkyChocolate9999 In the case of monetized channels most people wouldn't be happy with their video getting claimed
@@ekzrei_old True, but like I said most songs say they are allowed to be used on youtube. It will state beforw you upload if that is not the case anyway
@@MilkyChocolate9999 If it says that you can use the song but they will claim all the revenue so its pointless to even upload at that point
I think on the "player documentary" side it really comes down to the person making it and what they focus on. I've seen them feel very repetitive when the creator focuses only on the pp numbers (they set a 500, and then their first 600, and then they got a 700, etc.). What makes the history of a player special is the specific stories that molded them.
I've even run into some times where it felt like I couldn't tell a different enough story, which is why I ended Minute Legends in favor of more fleshed out longer videos. Since it's about the stories, that's why I ended up branching out to events or old osu! lore instead of just focusing on players. There's plenty of room for growth in the content scene, but we just need to wait for the right creator or video to come.
Of course I of all people have lots of thoughts on this as the original "player documentary" guy, but I'll leave it at that for now.
osu lazer updates is the best osu content unironically, entertaining and uniquely informative in an easy to digest way
I do agree with your points. Player documentaries have become stale for quite some time, I try to push better editing and storytelling with my videos, I believe my next one will show that a lot more. However I am thinking of switching things up, incorporating more of myself, like you did in this video. Though I do still think play docu. videos are here to stay, but they should be improved with better editing and switching up the format a bit.
i look forward to what you produce
@@SaowAngelWell do I have news for you…
I've been thinking about this for a while now honestly, and I'll be honest you're right. We need to revolutionize content, and as that one guy who does the documentaries as well, yeah it has gotten pretty stale unfortunately. Even I get tired of my own work sometimes tbh, so yeah I do agree that there needs to be a change and I will probably shake things up when I work on my next video
I'm in a Saow vid lesgoooo
I agree with this video so much... I only want to make videos that I feel like I want to see, but I haven't seen yet. I think it's pretty difficult to come up with unique videos or ideas in this game because it is, at the end of the day, a really simple game. You've done a great job, I only have like 4 legit videos so far though. But there is absolutely a big hole right now for a new personality or content creator to fill the void left by the tons of relatively inactive people like Binfy, Koi, tokaku, etc. It just needs someone with a good personality and some innovative ideas!
yeah your content has been very interesting to watch, hope you continue creating :) That was kinda my motivation to make videos as well, just wanted to make something that I would want to see within the community
good analysis of the current content scene in osu. it's been in discussion on how stale osu content has gotten over the years and people like sst3w and b1rchh have some great ideas in the making but all that matters is time. the more repetitive content that gets pumped out (trend-hopping shorts, documentary, drama), the higher the demand for something new. the moment the community see some kind of osu content that is creative outside of these stale bread, they will consume it like mad, thus spawning a new era of osu content until that, too, becomes oversaturated. i think as long as there are ideas coming for osu, albeit they'll get stale in a couple years, the osu content scene will survive and give birth to new content creators that strive to be different
great video
We needed this.. thank you so much
osu youtubers try to have content other than top osu player having a good score challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Mapping content was good, but it's such a niche subject that I highly doubt people who play care. Especially with what I've seen when people talk about maps in general terms like "map bad" or "I wish I could but I don't have the patience."
bringing up geometry dash was actually such a good example for how simple games can have SO MUCH content its just up to the creators to actually get new ideas or just try things out. good video!
lexy gmd real
No. While i hate it as a game, as a creative outlet Gd has infinitely more creative potential and potential for challenges, hence why the content isn’t terrible for the most part. With osu there isnt really all that much for challenges or creative potential other than whats already out there due to its simplicity
As someone in the gd community. There are some great creators out there GD Colon and Npesta. But there are some BAD shorts channels which is basically the gd acuivalent to the osu! shorts
I feel like someone playing osu could be just like npesta cause the core of his content is just playing the game and providing funny commentary
Looking forward to see you make a tierlist of osu! content creators!
Jokes asides, there's isn't much osu! content because on how simplistic it is.
Hopefully, when lazer is completed, there'a going to be a lot of audience that are going to watch some content since in lazer they added a lot of whacky mods that makes people who like making videos more interesting.
pray that osu lazer makes my channel popular :)
there's not that many osu! content creators to begin with, I searched up Geometry Dash on YT and there's just so much variety, but when it becomes to osu! there's like 10 consistent content creators.
we just need more people to actually try doing videos, maybe we should look forward for some contests from osu! staff to make some type of content about the community or the game (themes for the videos could be more interesting, I just don't have any lmao)
its funny because 90 percent of the RUclips short/ osu TikTokers are using relax and auto
i had to nerf my map because it was too hard for me lmao
Kinda agree on that one. When i got into the game in early 2018 the content was pretty great and diverse like ProjectAce's gameshows, Binfy's and koi's challenges and much more which were new for that time but now it kinda got stale at some point. Keep up the good work, hope you'll contribute to the 'new wave' of good content creators 🗣🗣❗❗
Etiennes departure was the end of consistent good rhythm game content
Funny thing is he quit months before I even got into rhythm games lmao
It's hilarious how his osu documentaries were better that everyone else's even today despite that he barely even played the game
This is facts
about 2 years ago i stopped uploading shorts because i didnt like the idea of people spending countless hours watching short videos and i did not want to be part of the whole thing anymore. Though i started uploading again a year after because i was interested in their whole short monetisation they announced and wanted to check it out. Since then i upload videos every now and then (almost exclusively creators i have gathered permission from, only very few i cant reach out to but also seem to be fine with it) while having long breaks like right now because you just get bored of making this type of content. I would argue there is not a single osu short creator that puts actual effort in the videos its all about finding that new trend that randomly gets 5 million views.
in conclusion, stop watching short content
~shorts guy
can't stop me from watching family guy peter griffin singing popular anime songs
can't argue against that. you win
6:13 I genuinely don’t know why the dude who made that "Osu Tiktok" documentary decided to put that in his video
Just came across this vid and I feel quite guilty now lol
Maybe it can be inspiration to improve?
Oh yeah, this whole video pretty much my thoughts too about the videos from the osu community.
I'll agree with others that this is too simple of a game for content and ideas, but that doesn't mean that the possiblity of good content is dashed. I think we just gotta expand more about what makes osu fun to people for content rather than just showing gameplay.
Also take my sub, you're fr cookin 🔥🔥
osu has things like storyboard and aspire-style mapping (and the combination of both) which all got less attention by years
Kinda sad for not seeing much those content at this day😢 Most recent osu video creators are just milking top players or memes
I really enjoyed making videos, but life is too busy these days. I barely have the time to play osu for fun. I agree that the standard format is boring, but I find a sort of solace in consistency.
BUT DAMN I MISS NALIAN, HE WAS PEAK CONTENT CREATION
I miss him, he was truly peak.
based video tbh. i stopped making osu! content because *in general* it's a lot harder to be creative on a game as static as osu! frankly (and also because i was tired of how saturated the content scene was becoming), because at the end of the day the base concept of osu! does not and probably will not change, unless you're doing 'EVERY TIME I MISS I GET SHOT BY AN AIRSOFT GUN' or something equally bizarre.
honestly i think etienne's rhythm game anomalies videos were the best examples of RG player documentaries osu or otherwise. this video also inspired me to get my stupid ass back to editing 10 hours of AR11, so thank you for that
I've been drifting away from osu to try and make general rhythm game content becuase of the game's stagnant nature (no updates)
Etienne videos always been good examples, but it's a shame that no one tried to do what he did but better.
(Good luck on your next video)
leave it to me ill change it
famous osu streamer! wow! I can't wait to see what you, sponnify, has in store!
famous osu streamer! golly! I can't wait to see what you, sponnify, has in store!
Just a quick shout-out to patch for having the best editing in all osu youtube
geometry dash isnt showing any signs of dying after 6 years of no updates, and with the new update getting closer and closer the game is starting to peak in popularity again. just how much a simple community and custom maps can keep a game alive is crazy
we love to see that
making content on a game from 2007 is really difficult, especially something new. becoming a personality from osu is near impossible because unless you are a top player, no one cares anyway.. the best thing for osu content creators to do imo is to find another game to stream or make content on
As a Geometry Dash player, I highly recommend one of the recent Samifying documentaries.
They're long but amazing editing, research and comedy.
I'm in the gd and osu community and I would like to discuss a few things! 1. Gd does have more creative content but the game has over 2000 ish objekts in the editor unlike osu which has... 3? But most gd videos aren't even creative! Mean there are videos obviously designed to get as much wievs with as little off effort put into it creators or whatewer I call them like Kayguy just make shitty RUclips shorts that don't have any effort put into them while actual creators like npesta, doggie, gd colon, actually have creativity! Looking at the OSU side of things Most videos aren't even close to being high effort or atleast good.
sadge, wished i played gd
Hell yeah i just kinda got back into gd myself, not really the game but the documentaries people make about it (ex. "The stage that changed gd forever", and "Is Electrodynamix a demon?". Its good to be open-minded about the controversial take that people get pissed off about people claiming it to also be a rhythm game haha.. just thought i should put that out there :)
@@SaowAngelI played gd for two years and got pretty decent at the game and still enjoyed playing it, but after playing osu I literally cannot go back because while the levels are amazing to look at, the gameplay is awful. When getting into harder levels beating them honestly feels like a lottery due to how precise the inputs are, and since the music isnt synced to the gameplay (it sounds synced when you watch it but when you play it you realize it isnt synced whatsoever) playing the game is infuriating.
And documentaries about players are worse than they've been, theres almost no information nowadays you just know when they joined and when they got 1k
And i havent seen map documentaries in a while
I always were more into youtubers like binfy or koifishu because they were always making top tier content
I'm not gonna lie in the past few years I can't recall a single osu video that actually entertained me, everything feels like it's either built on boring gameplay or jokes that have been circulating in the community for 20 years and resemble a corpse at this point. To be fair I also contributed to creating mediocre short videos a few years back and had a relatively decent amount of success with it but after a while I got bored.
Maybe it's true that being an OSU content creator is difficult,
and I feel it now and there is no progress with my channel.
I hope my channel can grow :(
it's tough out there, gl
@@SaowAngel yeah ( ;w;)
I pretty much stopped doing documentaries on top players since I didn't feel like making yet another player documentary and milking the topic to near exhaustion. I've recently started covering helpful topics that interest either me or the community in general and I generally feel better doing that. I probably think some people might feel the same way as I do. That might be me though, what do you think?
i definitely think that those types of helpful guides or topics would be really good when lazer comes out
So we're definitely in the same boat, that I like to see.
inb4 "osu! content is dying and we need your help", the sequel to "osu! is dying and we need your help", becomes a meme
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I never really liked the content side of osu! besides a few people who actually made the game seem more than what it actually was. I tried to made videos in the past showing the game being different, but few people cared about the different ways to play that I thought were interesting so I just stopped at beating a map without pressing any buttons and switched to make videos on other games. hopefully somebody will come around to change the content side of things because I surely don't have the power to do that.
Tournaments are hype, even though they appeal to a niche audience. I don't know about the views but i could see someone making quality content covering them and finding durable success.
It would be a nice start to gain the community's trust if someone does it right.
Cpol has the osu! news side covered on youtube, whether it's pp milestones, newcoming top players or popular maps' leaderboards evolution. It's hard to create anything that will outlive his content. It's simple and efficient enough.
Creators must find some other angle.
you didnt read the rest of the thread where i went on to agree with most of your points.
that section at the beginning was to critique the whole 'effort' argument thing, but the rest of the video was agreeing to what was said about osu doco videos being boring and stuff
3:06 this greenscreen looks very realistic
sike it's actually blue
@@SaowAngel you got me
Me when I make my 25th skibidi toilet osu short
did you use a fking measure tape for a microphone stand????
Yep :)
coming back to the comment i made a month ago, i think i sounded a little too negative on the gd community side but my point was that the gd youtube community felt similar to the osu youtube community in a few ways, some bad low effort apples here and there, but for the most part it was good and that i agreed with the points in your video
1:25 yooooo that's me!! :D
I miss the era when Miraie, Kachulu and SquasyBoy still making osu content😢
5:00 this literally is ironic what do you mean
Best videos are the ones about tournament experiences imo
I may do one myself, maybe from the next SMST as it is often the first tournament people try
my tourney videos did not do well compared to my other stuff :(
@@SaowAngel does that matter if you enjoyed making them?
@@oke3082 i stopped enjoying making and playing tourney videos tbh
On gawd, Jake Paul on osu!/Benson Playzzz really gotta pick up his upload schedule his content always went so hard
Video Essays and simple Commentaries are part of a video genre, it's not like those people can't edit any better. This is just what a lot of people enjoy to watch
but they can totally edit better
I guess, but I feel like the commentary is MUCH more important for videos like these, people handle this more like a podcast than a video, but of course good editing = better lol@@SaowAngel
this guy literally used a measuring tape to strap a mini mic on it. damn i never fucking thought of that holy fucking shit that genius
Actually don't do that because the metal bit at the end rattles a bit
i will revive the content scene.
Good luck
The comparison at the end to GD feels a bit stale. While osu! is more limited, GD as a whole has more ways to be creative, interactive, and overall just have more uniqueness compared to osu!’s stiff style of play. While yes, osu! can and should have some more creative content, comparing it to GD is like comparing a kid’s toy to a computer.
Yeah i kinda just said that without really looking more into it tbh. But the point kinda stands
@@SaowAngel No worries! The rest of the video was really interesting and funnily enough it puts itself above other “documentaries” haha
I know two people have said things about the geometry dash community already but these are just my thoughts. Content becoming stale is imo also a larger problem in GD. Usually the videos over there are just showcases of popular levels/top player beating difficult level (similar to osu scoreposts), RUclips shorts brainrot (basically the same as osu tiktoks except its even more low effort, it has a bunch of gen alpha memes, and every short is a carbon copy of each other), some drama videos, and documentaries (usually on the better side of GD content like what you said). Ofc there are people who try to come up with unique video ideas for the game, but I think the GD community suffers big time from stale content. I think the problem comes from the fact that the game is simple and easy to both work with and record like osu. The fact that we've been waiting for the next update for 6 years also doesn't help
What do Gen Alpha memes even look like?
I've seen a bunch of mr beast style of videos with gd, like making best spike for 1k or challenging best players. although can be as stale, it's doing far better than osu's content scene
and dw we've been waiting for lazer for longer lmaoo ;)
i still think there's way more active high-effort gd content creators when compared to osu!, Samifying, npesta, doggie, AeonAir, Colon etc etc and the list goes on
I can agree with that. the osu content is not that good anymore and there isnt anything new. but maybe we can as a community think about what new content we can make.
this is a crazy hot take, but osu videos have basically defined the standards of EN-speaking rhythm game videos as a whole, for better or for worse. a lot of people nowadays are first exposed to games through videos like osu documentaries, so anyone making videos on the overall genre uses these as the baseline to the point where it's completely saturated with the same thing end-on-end. either that, or tier lists. please stop making tier lists. it's nowhere near this bad with scenes like the FGC (which loves their documentary formats and tier lists) but the massive difference between the FGC and RGC is that the former has actual variety in video content.
I can't think of a single rhythm game "content creator" that suddenly blew up out of nowhere and defined how players value covering a variety of topics since Etienne, maybe Losermanwins, and I wager someone with their impact isn't going to make another splash for a long while, judging on how rhythm game videos still cover the same 4-5 topics and formats ad nauseam. I think osu content has mostly been "solved" by this point, but it has a massive ripple effect of stagnating potential ideas on other games in the genre through sheer attrition. people should make videos on topics that they would want to discuss, rather than following the YT grind. never played osu, but this is food for thought - good video
tl;dr rhythm game players please cover stuff that nobody else has talked about
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO BASED ❤
Real
KubeShark is the best osu content creator rn imo because hes authentic and hes entertaining asf and its cool to see his journey
as someone who literally only watch osu gameplay for technique idea and find fun map, i don't understand a single thing about this
bmc my favorite variety streamer
ur content been great tho
Everytime I see that Yokoe dude whenever I search something even remotely related to osu I get so irrationally angry
I did the "stop suggesting this channel" on youtube for him and others like him
didn't really understand what you really meant, but any contect is sinusoidal and ended its period. There are were WubWoofWolf funny replay maps like RonaldmcDonald Insanity. Nalian review profiles. KoiFishu review setup and replays. binfy funny beat topplay or give supporter. BTMC highlights. Anton osu clips highlights. cpol replays. Everything just got boring. There are just no new ideas for content creators. For example: CIS streamers just put roulette for ~1USD profile review/replay review/request.
the issue is that those things have been around for years and there hasn't been new types of osu content to come out
I kinda disagree with the overall message of this video. imo osu! content has DRASTICALLY improved since 2020-2021 and I think the osu! content push to commentary over Binfy or Kiofishu type videos is really good. If I wanted to “just have fun” with osu! i would just hop on the game and do the same thing they are doing, while with watching top player documentaries I am actually engaging with something that I cant do. Also i feel like i see way more videos like this one now that are discussing aspects of the community rather than just top players and maps and I really like these kind of videos so keep up the good work m8 :D
I regret not being on stream...
dw it was just me mapping an 8 sec song for 1 hour
@@SaowAngelI would've yelled at you for not spamming triangles
I agree!
thanks bob
calls people shallow for using views as unit of measurement, proceeds to do the same with geometry dash xD. Jokes aside i do agree that osu content is repetitive. would like to see more people just messing around and having fun with the game although documentaries are nice. so far best osu video i've seen is the rewind 2022. (ps nice camera shots)
Yeah that's a good point. Makes my point a bit hypocritical 😭
I agree, since osu videos are kinda boring tbh, I like more creatives one rather than copy and paste
Osu content isn't quite dead yet, we're just having it evolve into ridiculing the previous iteration of it.
honestly why does anyone give dorian grizzly etc the time of day, not trying to shame you for it but im genuinely curious because these guys have been causing drama for years and years
I've never heard of dorian until the drama 💀
really good video
I need more binfy content
what's in the folder?
That game died for me in 2010
Another based saow video
Thanks mush 😳
Imagine making osu content for views. You know, the unmonetisable game full of copyrighted music, that is literally just tapping circles over and over again, that's over 15 years old, and that nobody outside the community actually knows.
This feels a bit too overly critical of RUclips shorts creators. Doing something ONCE is easy, but to do it consistently, staying update, and a bit of marketing actually takes a decent amount of work. If some was "easy", everyone would do it. If making money and/or getting views as as easy as cookie clicker, literally everyone and their moms would be doing it. Unfortunately, it is somewhat difficult, time consuming, and also just a big commitment for a creator to do all of this. Making a long-form video every few weeks is cool, but to consistently make short-form content and effectively INVENT your own genre of video is a pretty respectable thing imho. Nobody should be throwing shit towards anyone. If you don't like the content, just don't watch it, don't be jealous, and focus on yourself.
This video is more a critique of documentary and drama videos, the shorts section was just a small point when they said it takes them 'effort' to produce a video.
do my videos suck 😔😔
i hate mania with a burning passion, but still good videos 👍
@@SaowAngelwhat did mania do to you 😭
official watch w/ food content
i HATE osu tiktok
i miss binfy my dad
same :(
It’s not that deep ong there’s a reason no one likes osu players
This guy took sixteen years to discover you only see someone clicking the circles 💀
It's cause brains be rotting
Amazing vid !!! IMO OSU documentary’s can be very good but for example etieenes vaxei/xootynator documentary’s but (especially in the top 100) osu! Players story’s aren’t very interesting at least games like ddr have more interesting players like piguy that have skill sets and storys no one can ever match
I think it's partially bc content creators are so keen on making documentaries on players that we're not giving enough time to see who is actually going to be iconic
koifishu supremacy
Gd content is not thriving by any means. Theres the top players posting the new top 1 (hardest current level) pass and people making short meme levels that end with the beginning of a famously hard level. Or its just a cheater trying to act like a cheater but making it very obvious so people will comment. This happens with any game. Valorant, beatsaber, and tf2 both have had and have this problem. Mostly an issue with what is happening with the game. All those games (except valorant) including osu haven't gotten a game changing update in a while. So most of the good content comes from creators creating it. Ie the osu player that pretended to be a noob and was like top 10. Then the 1000$ spike challenge, tf2 with the overly produced ultra high quality sfm animations mixed in with a fast pace video (lazypurple is a prime example). But yea compared to valorant osu is doing well. 3-4 of the biggest valorant creators quit because they were forcing content for a game that didnt have any. Another big issue is over specialization. Being an 2ft(touber as in youtuber) means that you upload once every 6 months on a good year
Fixed in lazer
Everything here does not apply to koi fishu
Nah, I would say tiktoker just being tiktoker, don't know why osu people wanna involved into this scenario Soo much, Soo stupid, JUST PLAY AND MAKE CONTENT BRUH
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