Secret Far-Right Masterplan Uncovered In Germany
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- It was the meeting that nobody was ever meant to find out about. Back in November, high-ranking politicians from Germany’s far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party, CDU, neo-Nazis, and sympathetic businesspeople gathered in a hotel near Potsdam. Their agenda? Nothing less than the fine tuning of a plan for the forced deportations of millions of people currently living in Germany. The AfD was involved and now the question has become, should the AfD be banned?
Timestamps:
0:00 Secret Meeting & The Participants
1:57 The Masterplan
4:42 The AfD
9:50 German Reaction
10:39 And the EU?
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Correction/clarifications:
- Potsdam is right next to Berlin but not part of it (as it is currently displayed in the animation). Potsdam is the capital of Brandenburg.
- Björn Höcke is set to win a plurality in Thüringen but most likely won't win a majority. Meaning he most likely won't be in government as no one will create a coalition with him
3rd MAJOR correction. The politician is called *Bernd* Höcke. Please refer to him by that, he does not deserve to be called by his given name.
you are generally not telling the truth ,
the left conspiracy theories about this normal meeting are already debunked
All you are saying are stories of neo communist constructed by regime methods, the corrective group of so called journalists is connected to left extremism
and all this played sensation is just a neo communistic propaganda as reaction to the fear of the current neo communist government to loose all power soon due to their catastrophic country destroying governing
@@KityKatKiller?
@@CrisCheese_ A satirical news show started calling him Bernd for fun a few years ago. He REALLY fucking hates that apparently. No opportunity to annoy a fascist should be left unused.
This is a classical witch hunt. The government in Germany is doing this against "the right" for years now. The people creating this article (Correctiv), are already being sued. You're a little late here.
Correctiv has been working together with a secret service in Germany, the Verfassungsschutz, which itself is subordinated to the German government. And Correctiv already changed crucial parts of this article.
The protests are organized. multiple party-loyal companies told their employees to join these demonstrations. Even the government itself is walking within these demonstrations and they told the people to join them.
The ANTIfa is holding up banners in those demos, stating that they want the people of the opposition to be k!lled (no joke!).
The public media is forced on the people by the government. If someone doesnt want to support the media, he will find himself in prison. Thats the reality people find themselves in.
This whole thing is staged and intended to intimidate the opposition, to get rid of them (ban them, strip them off their human rights, imprison them, make them loose their jobs, close their bank accounts, etc..). Thats all happening right now in Germany.
OK, you corrected that Potsdam is not INZ Berlin. But Potsdam is also as much "right next" to Berlin, AS New Jersey is "right next" to NYC.
So the geographic proximity to Berlin, or as they said in their article: to the Wansee Conference, is just a part of sensationalism and propaganda. The chosen place is not the same location as the Wannsee conference place, its still 9km away (approx 5 miles). In that respect, they cold have written, "its sooo close to the Fuehrers bunker". Which it is. Everything is close to something in Berlin. No reason for them to assume any connection there.
>>Look, this is Angela Merkel, she bought her house just 3km from the Fuehrers bunker. I think she did it on purpose. Lets start the witch hunt. -- Didnt she even reign in the same Bundestag as Mr H!tle/r? I find that very suspicious. >These laws (/law braking amendments) should be reversed and called illegal again, as they were before the muslim crisis. So the way they obtained the German citizenship, will then be called illegal again. Therefore THEESE people should be brought back home, NOT normal German citizen.
The argument is, that people were acting AGAINST THE LAW, letting them in and giving them passports.
"ASYLUM"= you need to be persecuted (fear for your life) to ask for Asylum in Germany. These "asylum people" in Germany come from peaceful countries and only want -lets face it- free money from Germany. There are 1mio Syrians, 1 mio Ukrainians (the AfD wants the war in Ukraine to stop immediately by not giving them weapons, to make them go back home) an some thousandths other people, who would have to leave immediately. COS again, there are in Germany illegally.
"NON GERMANS with residency"= The people in this meeting didnt mean the french, english or canadian guy, who came to Germany for a job opportunity. It refers to people who are in Germany illegally and without Asylum status.
"NON ASSIMILATED >Germans
Le Pen only says the AFD is too extreme because she’s branding herself more to the center in order to be more competitive in the next French elections. She won’t lose a single extremist vote for this declaration and will get sympathy in the center spectrum within France. And then, after the election, of course, she and the AFD will work together.
Or maybe she just doesn't like a German eurosceptic party as she recalls what happened the last time to the land where she wants to rule.
Honestly, Le Pen doesn't need to do anything to get more powerful. Our so-called "liberals" and "centrists" in France (Macron and his goons) have been normalizing racist rhetoric, regressive laws and brutal police repression for 7 years now. Send help please.
@@DerDoMeN Le Pen's party was created by Waffen-SS officers.
You are wise, Sir: That`s it. Thank you for your comment !
Pretty much the same goes for Meloni. Ever since she got to power, she has softened her rhetoric and is way more careful about what she says and does. She wants to get the support of those who might not have voted for her (don't forget she didn't get an outstanding majority, she won only because many boycotted the elections and the alternatives weren't convincing enough), but don't see her as a threat. She went as far as to completely deny some things she promised to do on her election programme.
If this is happening in Germany, It could be happening anywhere.
Yup, I'm someone who admires Germany , especially their reconciliation with their past and their democratic institutions, if my country ever became democratic I want it to adapt the German model, if Germany who is the most democratic country in Europe and arguably the world falls, then maybe there is no hope for others
We did had an extrimist neo-nazi party in Greece, the Golden Dawn. It was even the third most popupar party, but after a carefull investigation in 2015-2019 their true intentions were brought to light, and most of its members were arrested, and the party itself getting banned. It was considered a criminal Organization
True because there politician they open border that why to happen there country.that i solute poland in here policies about imigrant
I'm really surprised to hear that politicians from the CDU were there because the news focuses so much on the AfD. I hadn't heard anything about the CDU being at the meeting before now. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised because they've already hinted at being willing to cooperate with the AfD.
@@dagerry She was liberal, not leftist. There's nothing left-wing in how she bled Greece dry and how she pushed for austerity. She just saw immigration as a quick and easy fix for Germany's demographic problems and lack of workforce.
The CDU is kinda flirting with the idea of making a coalition with the afd. Maybe not now, but ad they continue to vilify the greens as out of touch elitist extremists, with the spd losing votes, and the fdp most likely not making it in the next parliament, their options for coalitions get narrowed down.
There is a difference it wss the "werte Union" technically part of the cdu but on the right wing side of the party
@@dagerry
Merkel was definitely not leftist
German here, I want to clarify this.
There were two or tree local CDU-politicians at this event in Potsdam which should get excluded from the party according to the party leader Friedrich Merz because of this
(so it was not ,,The‘‘ CDU who visited the AfD event)
Also, the CDU is absolutely against a coalition or any other form of cooperation with the AfD.
4:56 funfact: Alice Weidel (right) lives with her wife and daughter in Switzerland and the police of the canton Schwyz gave them flights to Mallorca for free.
Is she a lesbian? And were the kids adopted?
Björn Höcke looks like Elen Degeneres.
Oh god, why'd you say that 😂 now I can't unsee it
He's called Bernd Höcke, actually ;)
With what legal expedient could they chase away a German citizen??
Legally dubius because you cant revoke German citizenship, but even still SPD wants to revoke the Citizenship of the 150 people who returned after fighting for ISIL in Syria
These people don't care about law!
Actually, they changed the law (/made amendments) just recently in favor for all those muslims who flooded the country for years now. The gov gave away passports to people, who are criminal and are not even able to speak German.
>>These laws (/law braking amendments) should be reversed and called illegal again, as they were before the muslim crisis. So the way they obtained the German citizenship, will then be called illegal again. Therefore THEESE people should be brought back home, NOT normal German citizen.
The argument is, that people were acting AGAINST THE LAW, letting them in and giving them passports.
Ease double citizenship and afterwards take the german one away.
If he’s mslm or from Middle East , that doesn’t make him German just bc he has some 💩 citizenship or whatever . They have to be deported !
Right at the beginning is an error. Potsdam is not a part of Berlin but a neighbouring city as part of the state of Brandenburg.
Yeh it is a silly mistake. I created a sticky post
7:00 "I think it is great you're all writing this down very precice" is the sentence which reminds me of a very strict school teacher or more like a "wanna be strong leader". I think they hit a nerve there...
When you are ignorant of the fact that german culture and specifically language is a very precise language. Has nothing to do with a leader. 🤦🏻♀️
@@Freyia935 no, she does sound like that. She sounds like an overly strict German teacher.
The most shocking thing is that the CDU is involved. You would kind of expect it from the AFD.
Shocking? That members of the democratic right are obviously the biggest weakness in the system?
That is in my opinion just absolutely normal.
We should adress the causes of this radicalization, but politicians will almost surely ignore it... as always.
What do you identify as the root cause?
@@autumnjacaranda106 They will tell you lzIam but they completely forget that the causes of immigration are America's wars in the Middle East, IMF and Western companies exploiting poorer countries and neoliberalism/bosses in Europe who wants cheap workers and a growing population to fuel capitalism/economic "growth".
@@autumnjacaranda106why do u think they gained popularity?
@@autumnjacaranda106 Most commonly? Immigration and assimilation. Majority of people didn´t have that big problem with it, but it is just undeniable that it caused problems... problems which aren´t unsolvable, but the governments just often call a rasist and a nazi everyone who even dares to point out that those problems exist. People voted for moderate parties to solve the situation, it didn´t help, so they voted for less moderate parties... it didn´t help. People start to vote for mode extreme parties and the governments crack down on those extremies parties... without solving those problems.
As Czech I have to say that it was fascinating (in sad way) to watch this process, which occured with non-european through multiple years, but now the same thing with ukrainian refugees just in short time and as such it was easier to notice changes in society.
Even before war we had many ukrainian workers, mostly in manual labour, who then send their money to their families back to Ukraine. When the war started majority of population was sympathetic to Ukrainians. Our government offered them housing, education, economical help. (which by that time still didn´t matter to people). Sadly after that the communication between citizens and our government looked like this:
"There is major increase in energies and many of us can barely make it."
"Oh yes, ukrainians truly suffer right now. We should give them more houses"
"Ok, but we mean that WE can barely make it and many people lose their hopes for the future"
"Oh yes, we will give Ukrainians more money."
"WE DON´T HAVE MONEY. More and more people are getting desperate!"
"Sadly we were informed that we don´t have money. To pay for those new air fighters we have to massively cut budget for education and healthcare."
-more people want to vote for anti-war, less pro-ukrainian parties
":O"
Something very similar happened with illegal immigrants and multiple other problems. Probably one of the most visible was super green policy in Germany with the government damaging its own economy even when it worsened lives of more and more people. Majority of Europeans are for ecology and willing to do some concessions in name of greener future, but enough is enough... which then those parties continued to ignore.
@@autumnjacaranda106For me it is a mix between the ineffectiveness of the political caste, corruption and trying to treat voters like idiots.
- You cannot say that things in your country are improving when it is evident that the standard of living has decreased.
- You cannot try to protect other nations if it is at the cost of destroying your economy.
- you cannot try to sell an amnesty to terrorists to stay in power as if it were in favor of the people
Politicians today treat voters like children and try to sell a reality that anyone knows is false, populist parties at least deign to treat their voters like adults and say that things are bad (even though their solutions are simplistic)
I feel like the best way to deal with the far-right, would be for the other parties to find actual solutions for the problems the far-right are running on, like immigration
I think the best solution would be to find actual solutions for economic problems rather than blaming scapegoats for whom punishing will do absolutely nothing to help the common German citizen.
Edit: in case I was unclear, the scapegoats here would be minorities, not the far right.
@@autumnjacaranda106i think we should rather find solutions to give back glory to the proud white race 😊
@@mrhills8868thank you for your honesty lmao
@@autumnjacaranda106sorry bruh. I just drunk a glass of whole milk and watched a couple of Arno breker memes. Lost control of my instincts for a couple of minutes. Mah bad 😊
@@autumnjacaranda106 Exactly. Perfect response, actually. Here in UK immigrants are undergoing the same scapegoating for the economic problems caused by both Brexit and Covid. The fascists here don't care to listen when you tell them it's Brexit. They so want to believe it's migrants because then it bolsters their racist hatred.
Guys it doesn't work out to just close partys. Turkey closed or forced to close 13 kurdish partys since the 80s. They returned stronger each time.
Gotta respect Kurdish will power 😂
And how would not banning them work out in comparison? I don't know anything about the Kurdish cause but I can't imagine a situation in which a radical party garners 30% of support and just letting them be somehow makes them wither out and fall into irrelevance, that just doesn't happen.
Nah, a party ban works completly different in Germany compared to Turkey.
Sadly this video didnt mention the reasons behind the possibility of a ban and how it works.
Basicly its a "If its proven that a party is - at its core - activly working to destroy the democracy and / or the constitution, it will be banned by the jurisdiction".
So its not a ban by the government or a party.
In Germany parties are financed by the public.
It would be pretty crazy, if people would be forced to finance a new NSDAP (AfD) with the new Hitler while exactly knowing what he#s up to, dont you think?
@@klamky In the case of Turkey, the closure of parties resulted in greater mobilization of the party base and voters who did not usually vote for Kurdish parties, even though they were politically close to the Kurdish parties, to vote for them; for example, socialists, Alevis, conservative Kurds and the far-left libertarian wing of the CHP
@@NotUnymous In Turkey, political parties are also financed by the public. The reason why I don't think closing it down will work is that it is possible for them to quickly organize under a new name and this new party has the possibility of getting even more votes. Because that's what happened to us. It makes more sense to defeat them at the ballot box and strive for workable coalitions.
Actually one thing that is important to mention is that correctiv did receive money from the German government. They claimed they didn't and that they're 100% independent. That is false.
Also there is a difference between "secret" and "private".
These are details but provide some more context.
Ι voted no and totally agree with the creator 's personal conclusion.
I am Greek, where a few years ago the far right extremist party Golden Dawm was dismantled and deemed illegal under the antiterrorism law and it's head was sent to jail. But it was well deserved, as their members were proven to be involved in crimes, even murders, and their leadership endorsing these acts of violence. Other members have been very vocal publicly about taking violent stance and they have been documented to nurture paramilitary structures.
Afd is not like that, at least what we know of. Having it outlawed would have ths opposite effect and make tjs far right Germans even more unsatisfied and aldo mkre susceptible to being exploited and by "unconventional" new leaders who wouldn't be hesitate to retaliate against other political groups
The Austrian painter got reincarnated
GOOD weimar problems require weimar solutions.
You are judging Germans for wanting to preserve their nation and culture ?
As a German I can tell you that the AfD suffers from a misunderstanding of what constitutes the German nation and culture. I used to be a ‚conservative‘ until I realized that the ideas of people like Höcke would so radically change my country that the word has lost all its meaning.
Please explain what you mean by German nation and culture. Who is the German Volk? What is German culture to you? It is necessary to talk about these things before throwing around words.
@@FowerpullCrenbarry Its the German Ethnic Group in their own country Deutschland (Land of the Germans)
and economy
@@FowerpullCrenbarry No its not, everyone knows who the Germans are. Do you leave these type of comments in japanese political videos too? Didnt think so.
Failing to assimilate in ur host country should never result into getting citizenship granted anyways. Correcting those mistakes should not be forbidden to talk about.
Well you missed the point. It's not about some criminal refugees have to leave the cc country.
It's about the idea of basically an only white society. It's wild how you are all that brainwashed, definitely explains how y'all fall for these typical dumb narratives.
Very very secret
Man, they started to count the chickens before they hatched.
Like, was that discussion about undermining German democracy really that important? Big brain move right there.
I like these investigative videos!
I know that what i am about to say does not really matter but Potsdam is not in Berlin. It is the capital of the state Brandenburg.
PS. Nice Video
Created a sticky. Thank you
In my opinion, this research from "Correctiv" is an absolute joke.
If you read this "theatre-article", without this blown up script and reduce it to the real spoken quotes, maybe 2 or 3 critical sentences left from this huge article.
If you follow the interviews of Correctiv, they said especially "all those quotes, that we show in this report, was said there"
This article is crazy framing!
Yepp
Parties that are inherently against democracy should not be allowed to participate in democracy. It’s the paradox of tolerance.
Every mainstream party in Europe is against democracy by enforcing neoliberal policies that Europeans don't want. I'm all for banning this corrupt fake democracy and replace it with workers councils.
Paradox of tolerance is also accepting people with extremist views who want to change your country.
@@Krus2343 we're not for accepting religious zealots, we're for giving them the opportunity to become more progressive, as a lot of them do in Sweden, a really small minority of them remain unadapted, which the news channels really love shining a light on.
The AfD is not against democracy. It is actually the only party that wants more direct democracy like in Switzerland. It seems that you have a lot of opinion but little knowledge. But reading your comments you are outing yourself as a left extremist. That is as disgusting as right extremism.
@@RusuEusebiuDefine adapted? Does adapted include praising your home country? Does it include valung your home country more than the one you live? This it include raising and showing your home country’s flag more important than the host nation? Does well adapted mean opening up hundreds of shops in germany with arabic texts? Which only people who are from that culture can truly appreciate?
Your progressivism and “adaptation” is a false reality.
What is Le Pen's opinion now about Fidesz/KDNP?
There also needs to be viable alternatives to the far right that brings up the concerns that their voters care about, for better and worse...
What would the viable alternative look like? Recently, a German national-left party named BSW was founded. It is not more serious about policy than the AfD, it just demonstrates the current demand for populist parties. Unless the financial concerns of the lower middle class (‚deplorables’) are alleviated with more social policies, they will keep voting for hollow anti-system parties.
The Germans in the past didn’t ban an extremist party and it ended bad for all of Europe. You can’t win if the other player is using dirty tricks.
Actually Austria is even more extreme than Germany. It no surprise the "star" was Zellner ( btw. he also was in touch and received money from this one terrorists in New Zealand)
Thank goodness Germany isnt ruled by some unelected superstate
What makes you claim the EU isn't democratic?
@@Aetherguy-cb9bu its structure
@@keithskegwin That sounds very vague. If you are going to make an argument, then please provide something of substance. As with normal "states" the european union contains a parliament directly voted upon (albeit voted for in degressive proportionality), the European council and the council of the EU consist of members of the national governments (which as you might have guessed are also democratically voted for) and members of the Comission are generally designated by voted for governments. There's a bunch of further institutions I could mention but their contents follow a similar procedure. Either way even if you're not happy there's ways for dissatisfied citizens to voice their concerns via a semi-binding multinational referendum on a certain issue. Seems pretty democratic to me.
According to some, the EU rules Germany, according to others, it's vice versa. Maybe try being a normie for once and see the EU as what everyone else in your social environment sees it as. Which is; a boring block that has a good amount of legislative authority over its members and plays an important role in keeping the European peace by integrating European countries over time.
Is that the unelelected superstate which is having elections on 9th June? #doublethink
Totally unbiased report 🤣
Germany for Germans!
How if German Mark Return again as Germany Economic Currency? And return All Racist in their Countries Are they possible happen? How The EU EEZ?
It's only taken us 100 years to come full circle!
Something that wouldn't have happened had the borders not been opened and woke stopped in its tracks. I am Left of center, economically speaking, and I can't believe that the center and Left still refuse to see that they ultimately the ones who are responsible for bringing back the brownshirts by creating the conditions for their re-emergence.
Except its nothing like 100 years ago 🤣 fearmongering, remigration isnt extreme or racist youre just sensitive. Did you complain about the mass expulsions in the middle east or asia? something tells me no
3:12 doesn’t that disprove the pre meditation
Extinction from Europe doesn’t necessarily mean de ath
(It did still happen)
Good to see it being discussed, Europe is future Lebanon without remigration.
Or Yugoslavia
Across history mass migration/mass illegal immigration has caused a majority of civil wars and balkanizations of states.
What does lebanon has to do with this
It’s sorta comforting to see leaders in other Western states have also lost their minds. I thought it may have been an American thing. We’re all going to pay for their ignorance.
As a European, not so comforting. In the interwar period, concerned Europeans could always just move to America. That America does not exist anymore. "We're all going to pay for their ignorance." - Truer words have never been spoken.
Please make a video with Kurzgesagt.
Popper's paradox. Saying that a non democratic party can be beaten in an election is not understanding how those parties look at Democratic elections...
As an Algerian ik it's none of my business commenting on this, but I have been following AfD for a while now and I can't help but to draw parallels between them and FIS, a fundamentalist party that took power in Algeria, both are anti democratic, both are using anger and frustration over the establishment to gain votes, Algerians during the 80s and 90s were pretty open minded and secular and the ideas of FIS Contradicted with Algerian society at that time, yet Algerians voted for them just out of spite of the establishment, well it didn't end nicely to say the least since those guys ended people lives just for speaking in French, I'm not saying the same will happen in Germany but people shouldn't vote for an anti democratic Party that want to take their rights just cuz they are sick of the establishment, especially since even after they are gone they'll continue to spread their ideology just like FIS is doing
French perople : "oh no, not again !"
Believe me deep down the French are probably supporting this
Diem 25? 😮
There is another new party, getting out of CDU: The Werte Union (Union of wealth), led by Hans Georg Maaßen.
Then we have a splitting from the Linke (far left, former DDR-party SED), called the BSW, founded by Sarah Wagenknecht.
Wagenknecht is very clever, going for fishing in the far socialsts-waters as well as in the inconfident AfD-waters.
Werte Union doesn't mean (in the context of the former group in the CDU/CSU) "Union of wealth" but "Union of values".
First of all, "werte" means values in this case.
And second, framing the Linke as the SED is very reductive. There are a lot of younger members who have nothing to do with the DDR + the then SED was merged with a Western leftist party.
@@Dalex1910 You got better translation: ''values'' is of course better.
Concerning your argument about SED: We commentate to an international audience here. It`s not a mistake, to give an orientation about the roots: WerteUnion out of CDU, Linke out of former SED. Wagenknecht out of Linke. it`s complicated for foreigners at the moment :) Thank you for answering.
Sadly, this is a trend. Just as Europe ALMOST got united, some just cannot bear to live along others, are rising like these ppl and would do anything to get seperated again. Like we didn't have enough ideological wars in the continent.
Almost got united under a neoliberal empire crushing workers, nations, democracy.
Well, majority of those groups have problem with non-european immigrants and that the EU don´t want to do anything about it, which kind of shows the opposite, even extreme groups don´t claim to blame any of their neighbours for the problems and don´t want to cut ties with them, in a weird way that seems like quite big progress with consideration of european history.
@@tefky7964not just non europeans the dutch far right also blames the eu for all the curent issues as wel as people from other eu states that want to work ive here and i dind it terrifying where it is goeing becouse i believe in the eu amd i want a united europe based on respect and understanding
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 The current EU doesn't respect workers, democracy and national sovereignty. By pushing for unity among countries that have diverging interests we are only shooting ourselves in the foot.
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 Yes, thats the point, they oppose the EU mostly because they allow those issues and many of them almost completely ignore. If the EU did more against illegal immigrants those poeple would be much less against the EU.
No it doesn’t say it all with Le Pen. She is just showing a nice face. With the AfD content Le Peng would be prone for a kind of civil war in France. Abd she wants to be the next „presidenteuse“ of France.
Potsdam is not Berlin tho, its actually another states capital......not important just sayin^^
What should also be said, is that those members of the CDU have allready singed a memorantum to establish a different party before the 3 state elctions this year, so they mostly wont be in the CDU anymore in a few months
And Höcke is not posed to win the election but much rather winthe majority in this certain state election, tho he most likly wont be aible to form a goverment.
Sorry for these corrections but i feel they need to be said. Anyways good video.
Thanks for these corrections. I will put them into a sticky note
Germany for Germans 🇩🇪
Add should lead Germany and Europe should cancel asylum law
AfD extremists should be barred from the party, but banning AfD would just increase it's support
I mean you can't force a party to ban certain members. So that's pointless and even if they would actually do that (which they wouldn't, cause it's a party controlled by extremists) it could also take years.
There are quite a few examples for other parties trying to get rid of unwanted and problematic politicians, which was extremely hard and really terrible.
So the point is basically, there are certain rules and laws that define when a party can be banned and that shouldn't be influenced about the fact how much people support them. And btw. Every party has basically a maxuiof people who could imagine voting for them, so it's not really the case they are some day at 60%.
They should not be barred, they should be listened to. There's a reason there has been a sharp rise in support over other years.
"Should the AfD be banned?" You said no with the following arguments:
1.The supporters still exist
Doesnt matter, you dont steal their right to vote, democracy, you just give them better choices, ensuring democracy continous existance. The extremist parties are borned in a democratic country and then destroy that democracy so they can have full control. This is unacceptable.
2. Banning the party could make people trust democracy less.
It also works the other way, by NOT banning the party makes me, a democracy and freedom lover an others like me, trust democracy less because that democracy didnt protect me from extremism, so why should i vote for democracy anymore if the democracy failed me?
3. People may become more skeptical about politics.
Well, thats why i dont put my trust into politics, because it doesnt give me the security i need to not wake up tomorrow in a communist or fascist regime. By not banning the extremists makes me vote for them because you show me that you, as a democracy, have no control over politics, making people unsure about involving in politics or not
So yeah i belive that the best way of gaining more people trust is by banning extremists parties using legal instruments. Thats how a democracy should assure people security and rights.
Why does everyone loves democracy that much? It is a failing system.
Germany is doing 100 years challenge 😂😂😂
A better education system that really trains people to have critical minds and see the truth behind all the propagandist rethoric... but honestly I knew about the ascension of the AfD but I really cannot wrap my head around that, especially coming from Germany, after all that happened how is it possible?
I think a more central policy concerning migration (and related topics) on the national and EU level would solve a lot.
The current policy is out of balance being too far left, in my opinion and is feeding other issues like discussed in this video as a direct consequence.
More balance is needed: some, well controlled, migration is more than ok or even absolutely needed and would have a broad support base.
And there lies my issue, is that it now has become a larger focus on the extremism (although definitely to look out for left and right) rather than dialogue, mutual understanding and looking for more central solutions to the root cause.
Difficult to disagree. You clearly have a different opinion than I do, but you are right, we should talk more. That being said, prepare for your ideas to fall under public scrutiny. For example, the idea that it is realistic or even possible to get only skilled migrants and still combat population decline.
If only Eu nations fix the migrant crisis ON Time
2015 circa people wouldnt vote Alts Patries
No. Centre is exactly what has been the policy in Western Europe since the late 70s, which was a way for right wing business owners and corporations to keep wages low by importing foreign workers from third world countries. We need to totally stop migration, illegal and legal and solve the current daily violence that the Muslims and the non-Westerners are inflicting on Europeans, as well as the demographic shift that will make muslims a majority by the end of the century if not before if nothing is done. The only solution is mass deportation of illegals, residents and non-assimilated EU nationals.
What happened the last time that Germany try to push "foreigner" from the country? 🤔
ussr, uk, france and us f* us up real bad.
sad thing: the uk is busy shooting themselves in the foot, france is on the brink of being run by a right wing extremist, trump and his fascist loons are looming in the us and russia is already in full sickomode.
we have to deal with the fascists ourselves this time.
i guess my comments are too cruel to be shown(?)
You mean like from 1952-1998, nothing really people only started holding these extremist views after the political reaction to the 2015 Migrant Crisis
They are foreigner
@@Terme-Well that isn't right. There was a pogrome against ethnic minorities in Rostock in 1992, which was a bit more than nothing. Sure, Germany did not get bombed and divided that time, but do not omit historical details to support your opinions.
Fascists
9:00, the man is called Bernd! Can't be so hard guys! 🤣
For context for non Germans: a German late night show called Heute Show, started calling him Bernd in 2016, after Höcke was extremely upset with an newspaper article in which his first name was mistaken with bernd.
Now it's a running gag!
🤣😂🤣
I mean… removing asylum seekers and people that refuse to or are unable to assimilate into German society isn’t *that* bad of an idea. Of course, that would then depend on what counts as “refusing to assimilate”, which, beyond the obvious, could get into some interesting scenarios. They are right though, that is it impractical. I don’t think that there is enough popular will to get that plan to work.
You're missing the point I think. The AfD was cooking up a plan that would allow the state to deport actual German citizens from the country just because they did not fully adopt their culture. Imagine working your entire life in Germany, contributing to the economy, paying your taxes and being a part of a community. Only then you get deported because your parents are originally from Japan or Morocco. Normalising this way of treating other humans is a dangerous game, and the far right, just as much as the far left back when the European communities came to be, is a cancer that needs to be dealt with
@@achilleskoliakis9288 Far left??? What did the far left do? Call out neoliberalism?
This thinking is normalized in lzræI but Germany has no issue selling them arms to carry out a Jean O'cide. So hypocritical.
I deem you Ungerman because of how you talk and that you wear certain clothes. cya. sounds very familiar
@@Charlie43348Haha, I read „Ungerman“ as if it were a German word and was trying to figure out what you meant. You can just say “non-German”, you know. I didn’t say that it would have to do with how they talk or the clothes that they wear, though. In any case, just because something „sounds familiar“ doesn’t mean that its implementation or outcomes would be the same.
@@Adam-326 Your statement at the end is true - but do you really have that much trust in the state, any state, to by their own arbitrary metric decide who is "German" enough? I agree that Germany has a problem, you wouldn't see this widespread support for AfD and other similar right wing parties if there was no problem. But giving any state the power to decide who is citizen enough - people who have been here for 3+ generations, born here, only lived here, know nothing but living in Germany. Is that not terrifying?
Political parties shouldn't be banned. If the ruling governments just did their job extreme parties would still exist (there are always people who are dissatisfied) but they would be pretty much irrelevant.
I do not fully agree. Banning a party may have a positive effect, for example, forcing the really convinced people to found a new party that has a more constitutional course and less anti-system rhetoric. And in my opinion, in this case, it would destroy the old structure of mind-numbing propaganda that the party has used e.g. on TikTok. Ideally the party would split into two movements, one that is clearly illegal, and one that is more friendly to the democratic institutions.
I'm all for a free speech ammendment legalizing all speech, as no one can sit above the rest & say what is & isn't hate speech. However, laws which prevent discrimination & harrassmeent should also be upheld. There is a way to protect unpopular speech while also safeguarding equal civil/social rights.
History repeating itself?😮
Was all that happened between 1933-45 really a repetition of history? I don't think so...
How is it bad that they want to preserve their race and culture
because they make too few kids.
@@dave_sic1365 if you replace population but system that makes them have less kids stay you didnt fix the problem
@@Memememe765hwu but if you can import more people from other countries there wont be any Problem with the workforce.
@@dave_sic1365 there will in future and you have to keep importing until race is swapped witch renders country wortless and conquered
@@Memememe765hwu conquered yes but not worthless because there are people working
Actually, theyre right: time to remigrate.
AFD bot
Are we really going back in time to 1930-40? What we've worked so hard to move along with our newly and improved lives through decades and look where we are today: Internet, video games, EV, modern computers, smart phones, etc. Europe has fought so many wars against each other and it is getting tiredsome. Why should we discriminate immigrants when dictators and wars are the reason immigrants from Africa and West Asia pouring into Europe.
Its only a reaction of mass immigration and rightly so. Countires like france, England, Germany and sweeden have been victims of mass immigration and all these countries need the far right to balance things out.
And also Poland?. Right there time to press on the alarm button. I have registered at least one case of violence lately, related to immigration. So far Poland has been a country entirely free from immigration related crimes.
@@fredrikhazell6421 Far-rights can also lead to authoritarian. I never trust far-rights and right-wing neither I do trust far-left and left-wing.
@@emigratednorwegian411 Are you serious? You have read about one case and you use it as an argument to defend the idea of the mass deportation of millions of people? You are from Poland. Can you really not see the parallels between these German right wing plans and what German right wingers did to Poland in the past?
@@emigratednorwegian411 One case of an immigrant crime? One? Does this justify a million crimes by us non-immigrants? By the way, rest assured that the Germans who would do this to immigrants would also gladly to it to Poles living in Western Poland
Thank you, the real protest will take place on the election day.
To quote the movie Dark Knight Rises... "Now this evil... Rises from where we tried to bury it." It's terrifying...
Im a bit terrified.
I may not be German, but as a Norwegian, i have studied how Nazi Germany once occupied my country. I have also always wanted to visit Germany or maybe just outright move to Munich or Hamburg, but these situations makes think otherwise, and it is both scary and also a bit sad.
@@TheboyInPurple915
Haven't you seen the demonstrations against it? Hundreds of thousands on the streets.
@@arnodobler1096 oh ._.
I hate this party it literally destroys the country and the worst of all some of my family members are voting for them. 🤮
If the Afd aren’t banned then unban the left parties no?
What left parties are banned and what were the reasons for it
Which left wing parties have ever been banned in Germany?
@@CrisCheese_ communist party of Germany is banned
@@CrisCheese_Only the KPD, a party which had a history of opposing democracy, although, I don't really know the details.
@@CrisCheese_ communist party of germany. they wanted a marxist revolution to overthrow the government. they threatened democracy and the german state, thats why they got banned.
I understand wanting to deport people who dont support western values such as a lawful and orderly society. However i think a much better plan is ending the welfare state and strictly enforcing the rule of law. this would either educate them or cause them to leave on there own.
Lawful society also means not deporting your own citizens.
@@_blank-_what if they weren't lawfully made citizens
If we were to deport people who don't support Western values, the AfD would be the first to go.
Besides, the welfare state isn't the biggest reason for immigration, rather its the fact that the countries immigrants stem from tend to be shit. If your plan is to make germany shit so that no one wants to come here, then congratulations, great plan.
After dealing with foreign people,you will be the next to deal with trust me.
@@yehudaclinton6252then it's not the governments job to do anything about that, but the judiciary's. also 1000% conspiracy talk here.
It all correct itself out.
well, if they dont get banned I assume the correction will be a civil war as soon as they get to power - or the destruction of democracy. Nothing I would like to see. So we all need to work hard to prevent that.
Wait a moment? You a publishing this video right at the moment when the whole story is turning out to be fake news?
Please check the ongoing defamation case against "Correctiv".
The video, at this üoint in time, is pure propaganda.
Nice that this gets talked about. This scenario shows fascism never left Europe and that denazification is a myth
They are popular in East Germany , that didn’t go through denazification, so if anything this shatters the myth that communism somehow prevents this kind of thing.
@@mirelchirilaEast Germany did have a more radical denazification even. The project was doomed to fail from the start, in the FRG, and the GDR and Austria. All did denazification of some form but there was no lasting effect anywhere. And now in the East, people are rejecting democracy because they feel alienated from the federal German society. Austria is simply more like Bavaria, as always. Somebody said it‘s the Florida of Europe.
@@FowerpullCrenbarry again they say they did a more radical denazification , but like a lot of things behind the iron curtain, they lied, I should know I was born there. And this doesn’t even apply just to East Germany, most of Eastern Europe is more is more predisposed to this type of messaging, and honestly only history makes them hate both extremes enough to be begrudgingly very liberal.
Eastern Europe is the only place a basic bitch liberal can be a populist, wild place. But east Germany has no such guardrails.
@@mirelchirila
Happy to break it to you but East Germany went through way more severe denazification than the West. In fact, most nazis in the West got high governmental positions and only had to serve 2 years max and after remilitarization their sentences got cut. A lot of nazis from East Germany even became migrants and went to West Germany to flee prosecution as the conviction rate of nazis was 7-8 times higher in the East. This difference between West and East led to the East to become a breeding ground for both the far-right and the far-left
@@ryjitarose5590 hate to break it to you, the results show different outcomes. You can argue about the process, and what intuitively seems like it work more, but you also have to face reality. The German far right parties have a lot more supporters in the east . The former communist states are not exactly at the forefront of progressive thinking either. So honestly I don’t care how agresive the process was , the results are not very good. And by breaking traditional ties that could have developed into actual social cohesion, and could have fostered actual concern for the others wellbeing, the communist created some of the most self interested people in the world, that barely now form a relative cohesive social fabric, and even that is mostly built on hating the former communist regimes and Moscow.
It’s insane to think that Marxist-Leninism even achieved the things it was trying to achieve. The results at the end were literally the exact opposite, and having nazis come up from the east is no surprise to me, just another failure in a long list for Marxist-Leninism .
So no they didn’t, the soviets killed a lot of people and used the same tipe of authoritarian thinking just changed master race to proletariat struggle. But nothing else, if you think denazification stops at killing nazis , and not addressing the thinking that brings nazis , well, be prepared for new nazis in a few decades.
Antisemitism is wrong and baseless. The rest is OK
According to whom? It is not very pleasant for people that have lived many years somewhere to remove them from there by force. Whether this is an optimal solution, is another question.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Many clearly are our enemies. For over 1400 years.
Get. Them. OUT !!!
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Are you referring to the Jews expelled from all the Arab countries?
Zionism is wrong. Being anti-Zionist is good.
If I would live in Germany, I would vote AfD. EU is the worst thing happened to EU since the second world war.
Hahahha all wrong😂😂
Do the far right never learn their lesson?
Which far right of all the many "far rights" are you refering to?
@@tomorrowneverdies567 All of them. Obviously.
What a stupid question.
@@RealOGfikey
I am greek and I do not wish that the average phenotype of people in countries like Germany becomes even less good with time, due to immigration. In case I am considered "far-right" for you, then what lesson should I learn according to you?
@@tomorrowneverdies567yes bro. You are literally doing genetic arguments. Actual nazi level shit. We should oppose immigration so that our grandchildren skin won't be darker ???? Why??? Why the fuck should I care about phenotypes ????
@@tomorrowneverdies567What @RealOGfikey is referring to is that people with your views tend to hurt their own interest. The end of WWII is widely seen as the most significant symbol of this interpretation. Are you Christian by any chance? Then you would know about the story of the tower of Babel. Now since you are Greek, you probably think that you are totally different from Germans because of culture of something. But God does not make that distinction. This is not supposed to be religious propaganda by the way, just a biblical hint: Humanity has known for a long time that immorality and stupidity are closely interlinked.
Radical parties can bring radical change which is needed.
Germany did vote for radicals in the past. Not sure if it ended well.
@@_blank-_ you are not sure if the NS regime ended well?
The radical nw ideas of: racism
@@_blank-_ yes but they were not invaded by islam
@@iGhostrthey just reduced their country to rubble and would be poorer than eastern europe without bailouts from the US.
Wow this is such clickbait.
How is that these people are not arrested or 'ended' yet?
Because if the german government would ban this party (which they can do) the pro-far right extremism would only increase in its popularity among the country because some people will lose trust in how good the current democratic government is.
@@user-kv5xl8jp1s Ah yes, the good old boogeyman tactic. Politicians in France use the same. They use Marine Le Pen as a boogeyman to get elected and re-elected despite being unpopular. For example: Macron.
for what? for not wanting islamic invasion in Europe?
@@_blank-_ well, stop supporting actual n*zis, so everyone else can vote based on all the nuanced policies and not just based on the fact that "we don't want another 1939".
My friend, why are you not impartial in this presentation.
While I agree that there is some serious nasty stuff with them, there is also some VERY serious nasty stuff with the other camp.
If you belong to either, at least pretend to be impartial.
I for one agree that since the laws are such that it is almost impossible to remove these immigrant criminals from the EU (and they have been designed to be like this), there has to be a strong hand to achieve it. Sure, maybe not them since they're clearly nasty, but someone has to!
You're so right. Lets get him to present the rise of the Nazi party in 1920-30s Germany and be impartial too ! both sides of the argument, lets hear them out ! other parties like the communists were nasty too!
"there is also some VERY serious nasty stuff with the other camp." I'm sure you can give some actual examples of this?
It's the classic intentional fallacy
"You're pointing out bad stuff on our side!? Ah, but there'se bad stuff on the other side too!"
By itself the statement is not wrong, but it moves away from the topic.
The topic of the video is the meeting and its consequences. As such the video talks of that. Not about the ideologies of the other parties.
@@kimwit1307I would point out that those in charge of our union and countries do nothing of note to stop migrants from pouring in. I thought it was implied what the nasty stuff meant. I could also point out that the liberals seem to value the interests of the union more than those of the countries they govern. Certainly in my country they do, energy prices were extremely high as we were exporting massive amounts of gas and electricity to EU heartland which did nothing to save their economies but did everything in terms of bringing the energy markets as close as they could be, price wise, which is shameful since we don't have anywhere near their purchasing power.
@@kimwit1307 Perhaps also serving the US in their external policy in all that they do, it's no secret that their interests are non-negotiable in most cases, look at nord stream 2 if you need one example. Also, importing their woke ideologies which are doing nothing but harm.
How is the AfD "far right"? I don't see any difference between them and CDU or SPD, especially in immigration.
The AfD, CDU and SPD actually have different views on immigration. The AfD is rather restrictive and against all types of family reunification. The CDU is centre-right and some members want to limit the number of relatives of refugees allowed to come to Germany each year. The SPD sees migration as enrichment and calls for a humanitarian EU asylum system. So yes, there are differences between these parties, especially when it comes to immigration.
@@Ricity first of all thank you for your answer. Sadly, it is the best answer I have gotten in months.
I am of course well aware of the differences you mentioned.
However, I personally do not consider them as "significant". That is a purely subjective view obviously.
I am greek by the way.
@tomorrowneverdies567 I mean... how are they NOT significant??? One party thinks immigration is good, the other wants to restrict it as much as possible and want to deport people. Regardless of which position you prefer, you must be blind not to see a difference. Or maybe you are disingenuous.
@tomorrowneverdies567 you don't see a big difference between the spd being pro immigration and the afd being anti immigration. Ότι πεις φίλε.
Wtf? One of the many thousands of Greeks who have been living in Germany for decades and who will then also be deported?
Its rather strange to not even explain how a ban in Germany would work and what the reasons were to have the possibility be implemented. And no... it's not just because "3. Reich".
This video seems like a activist video against party-bans in Germany... If I want to watch propaganda videos I wouldnt bother to visit "EU made simple".
Normaly you do good indepth video on a specific topic - and so has been your work on the rest of the topic, the whole happening that surround the demonstrations in Germany.
But that last bit... wtf?
I'm sorry you feel that way. My aim is to keep the video neutral as much as possible until I give an opinion at the end. Clearly indicating that it is my opinion
Should the NSDAP have been banned in the 1920s and 1930s? I mean yes
Sorry? Banning a party in a democracy is a very very serious matter. Who was it who once said "Freiheit ist zuest die Freiheit der Anderdenkenden."?
Aggressivle promoting the banning of a party is what makes ME worried. Perhaps you would like to ban the new Turkish nationalist party as well? Or is Wagenknecht still woperating within the limits of the consitution?
@@michaelrenper796 NSDAP?
@@arnodobler1096 CCP?
Ban it!!!
No 😂
It's a plan...an extreme plan, but a plan nevertheless, and having a plan is better than none.
What I'm trying to say is until the migration/immigration issue isn't satisfying resolved, folks "with a plan" are going to be appealing to the mases, far-right extremism seems a problem but in reality they're just a simptom of the real problem(s).
The biggest mistake would be to ban such organizations.
In my opinion, 99.99 of far-right supporters are just normal folks looking to actually adhere and contribute to a better future.
So maybe actually, you know discuss and address the topics, give them folks a alternative, shouldnt be that hard, you know since obviously what's on their mind is imoral, unethical unfeasible, utopic you know ... extreme, yet something needs to be done nevertheless, as cliche as it sounds is very simple, actually addressing and trying, even resolving the core issues that lead to popularization of far-right movements.
What needs to be seen as a problem in it's curent state is mass immigration (especially the actual illegal and uncontrolled type), better decent jobs for everyone, safety, fair and cost-effective acces to proper housing, healthcare and education yes this is also an utopic unrealistic plan but this should be it, and every improvement in any field I've mentioned would be a big win...
Anyone who has a decent job, that pays fair and also offers a good work-life balance, lives in a safe country/city where he is treated decently, his kids go to proper good schools(be them kindergartens, gimnasium, highschools or university's), and has instant access to good healthcare wil never, I repeat never be concerned with who is who and what or where did it came from (with the obvious underling that it came legally and actually contributes to the society i schetched above.
Actively trying to implement ALL the EU VALUES to all people regardless of context that's what people truly want:
Rule of law for everyone no exceptions, or suspension , you know because of your background or cultural difference or pc culture.
Human rights for everyone including no positive discrimination
Human dignity this might sound counter intuitive but current sistem is overwhelming and immigrants lose this trait because of it, where is the dignity when you travel the Mediterranean in a rubber boat, where is the dignity when you have to sink you papers and bury your own identity, where is the dignity when you are kept alive through hand-outs, or pety crime etc
Freedom well if it ain't " safe outside ", are you really free to go out"?
Cheers
* This here comment it's just my two cents about the zeitgeist, my opinion and to actually summarize all, I'm just saying "thing need to get better"
The holocaust was also a plan. What's your point ?
Bullshit, these are talking about kicking out German CITIZENS.
Ultimately what you are saying is that the AfD is not a serious problem because it was caused by something else, and also because according to your personal philosophy they will not implement their ‚unrealistic plans‘. Dein Wort in Gottes Ohr.
"EU made simple" basically becoming a propaganda channel lmao
???
@@Trolligi its bollocks
financed by whom? wtf
@@Trolligi it's pushing a political agenda
It’s hardly no surprise tbh, after a few videos, it has become quite clear that it is a channel that advocates for federalization- which is in the interest of the two main trendsetters in the EU
The video sounds and looks like USSR Cold War propaganda…very disappointing…EU made SIMPLE minded
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Found the Nazi.
The eu is one of the safest and richest regions on earth and you should feel privileged to be able ti live here yes it has it issues but nothing that can't be fixed also you get to vote in june so vote fir the representative you feel has the best interest of the people
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 And our standard of living is currently declining due to the EU's policies and the ruling parties endorsing them.
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it's not the eu policies, it's a war, a pandemic and a global inflation crisis.
Talk about the farmer uprising or the world economic forum and there plans
Whataboutism, as always
They made a video about the farmers' protests 12 days ago.
All you have to do is click on his channel to see that he has aready made a video on the Farmers protests, as for the WEF, its a conspirators wet dream. A waste of a video.
@@dharmagall9082 It's not whataboutism to address the causes of the rise of the far right. Neoliberalism is the root of all of this.
@@_blank-_ The rise of the far right is mainky due to the gullible believing what far right politicians tell them to believe. E.g immigration is the root of all their problems.
1. Potsdam is a town next to Berlin.
2. A small hotel.
People did such amazing research and you didn't even do the minimum.
I created a sticky regarding Potsdam. Thanks for pointing it out
This video is far too biased in my opinion. Just because some guy is from Austria, to make a connection with Hitler is quite distateful. Do better.
AfD is providing the stick to be beaten with. A secret conference planning mass deportations near Wannsee? Really?
They don't want to do "better". They want to do what they have been doing.
We all drink water like Hitler, so there is a connection to be made.
That was a joke and Sellner is a nazi anyways.
The risks are too great. Rise of a true and real extremist Germany would risk collapse of European unity which would seal the fate of Europe as a disintegrated weak region. Only a united Europe can win. The best example is Satellites, without them you do not have a working military, they are the eyes, ears, everything, but each Europe country only has a few, together it functions as a real power and only together it can build new Satellites and launch them from North Sea or French Guiana as it is not really possible to launch Satellites form mainland Europe. Only cooperation works.