Why do Chinese hate their champion? Dark secret of China's sports games
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
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On August 3, in the Paris Olympics table tennis women's singles final, Chinese female player Chen Meng played against Sun Yingsha, who is also on the Chinese team. Logically speaking, no matter who wins the championship, it is a moment of great pride for the Chinese people, but the atmosphere at the scene was astonishing...
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Well done Cheng Meng who didn't bow down and won the deserving title
Good job. Be firm. You won by your determination, skill and strength.❤❤❤
Yes,Chinese support her bz she was young😅
And other is old than her
Cheng meng did the right thing. These Chinese fans are so stupid.😢 As I said Chinese are not united at all 😮
@@shuttlespace04behavior of the chinese fans was disgraceful. They are sending a very negative message if that is the case. Sun Yingsha will be booed when it comes her turn (when she becomes old)
Chen Meng comes to USA. We‘ll love to have you.
The head coach should be banned from the international stage
Fully agreed.
It wasn’t just the head coach. This has been part of China’s syatem for a long time.
They all serve the dictatorial party AND he is a party member. LOL
@@billlee2458 Agreed 💯.
@@billlee2458 team should be banned
The fact that even the coaches didn't want her to win meant it was rigged from the start and she was meant to throw the match. Not unusual in China to predetermine who wins before the competition even starts.
We'll never see her again after she gets disappeared
They bet against her, and lost
Then why did they allow her to compete in the first place ?
@@sleepinglaffey3886 XI lives rent free in your head 🤣
it doesn't mean it was rigged because she won ? she would have lost if it was rigged. Coaches faces just show that they have more interests to themselves if the other one wins. they aren't happy because they probably lost some money/deals/seats on high status .
Match fixing is absolutely scandalous and the people involved need to be disqualified and banned from the sport
A bit uncanny how everyone here takes the conspiracy claims in a youtube video as facts. The authors of the video called Ma Lin Ma Long. They clearly have no clue about table tennis.
@@explorer3519agreed (it wasn’t even Ma Lin in picture at that moment of the narration)… it’s a bizarre phenomenon
Try explaining that to these crooked ass chinamen.
@@blubbel222 match fixing happens here in the US all the time
Znaci rekli su joj da izgubi mec sto ona nije napravila..sramota !
Congrats to Cheng Meng, she deserved to win, she's the best!
take all the politics out of it and chen ming is a true champion. she goes out to a hostile crowd and even her own team wont congratulate or cheer her on and she still goes out and wins the gold. thats mental toughness level 99 for sure!
Props to Chen Meng for ignoring those idiots in the crowd
Other country table tennis coaches should be reaching out to Chen Meng to switch countries as she's going to be blackballed in China.
let's hope she doesn't have a rare bloodtype #harvest
Switch Country?
Switch your idiotic mind!
She is ours and she is Chinese!
I think this is her last Olympics anyway so she'll go out with a bang.
Why do Americans hate their president and want Trump dead? Dark secret of Americans' democracy.
China also not let Taiwan to participate under their flag🇹🇼
The coaches and their handlers probably lost a good sum of money on this one.
😂
They were betting for her to lose… maybe and was threatened when she was winning… speculation. Why else would they be disappointed?
they would do anything for money in chyna so you can bet the staff were set for a huge financial bonus if she lost and the other girl won.
It looks like the loosing player said something in her ear at the end, probably a threat to what's going to happen to her for winning.
Why do Americans hate their president and want Trump dead? Dark secret of Americans' democracy.
The other woman is younger. Chen meng is over 30 years old. So the other younger woman would earn more money in advertising. The advertising money are shared with the coaches.
@@2amSpeedMerchantlol they are good friends who grew up together, both players refer to the other as their sister. Just because one has more fans than the other doesn't mean they hate each other
Imagine gambling on table tennis in China, and everything is so rigged like this. The big sharks who call the shots win every time.
She should participate for USA🤩💪🇺🇸
@@shuttlespace04She should play for Taiwan. Leave West Taiwan behind forever.😂
All table organisations should ban china players and coaches for this illegal match manipulation.
@@leetylv5321 nah not gonna happen
kinda not the same match fixing but the last games the two Chinese teams of pairs wanted to manipulate the brackets to ensure an all Chinese finals. The coaches wanted one to lose so that they were on either side of the tournament.
No sportsmanship at all. Let's hope that Japan 🗾 wins Gold next time 🎉
And only allow them to complete as Chinese Taipei.
It is all within the same country. China vs China. As long as there is no bribery of another country for China to win, no rules are violated. Except sportmanship.
To win against all odds, that's what we call a champion. Chen Meng is a real champion. The silence of Shasha in this matter shows her immaturity. A real looser.
Well said.
According to news leak from china sources, its a match rigging case here, but Chen Meng refuse to abide, which is why she gets such terrible treatment. She will be kick out of table tennis team or even end up in jail after this. Match rigged for table tennis and badminton had been going on openly for more than 30 yrs, with its government aware and part of the profit
Shasha isn't just a player, she is a brand and part of a company in china im sure, she can't just go around spouting whatever she wants. Even in america, maintaining your brand and keeping to yourself is regular practice, of course in China it will be much worse, especially since Shasha was apparently the overwhelming favorite. She is young, cute, popular, and extremely, EXTREMELY, skilled and talented. She has a bright future and is perfectly justified to keep quiet. You can tell from the hug at the end that there is no ill will between the players, this is purely a societal problem since shasha is so popular. The Chinese coaches were probably hoping to raise a three time Olympic gold singles medalist or something, that dream is completely ruined now.
Tbf, this years Olympics had a lot of wild scenes. The opener with was either intentionally provocative or lacked even mild self-awareness and foresight about how that would look, the Australian breakdsncing “athlete” who seemed more like an attempt at parody than a serious attempt, the flag snatching for Taiwan supporters, of coarse the negative reaction of the Chinese fans towards their own champion, list goes on.
Those coaches guaranteed the outcome to people with money and power. Now they have to go home and face the music. Let's all say a prayer for Chen Meng.
You really can't blame an athlete for doing their job, but you can definitely blame the guy who is in on it (head coach), and whose job it is to oversee. I'd be more worried if I were him tbh.
Only those immature and crazy fans of Sun Ying Sha hated Chen Meng. Chen won even more respect and love from people after seeing the improper behaviors of those Sun's fans.
A very similar thing happened at the semi-finals of the 2024 ITTF world cup. Near the end of the match, in a very tight spot, Cheng Meng was about to serve and Sun Yingsha's fans started shouting so Cheng wouldn't make a good serve. That time Sun ended up winning
Bravo Chen Meng, you showed the finger to those petty people.
You are a fighter and richly deserved to win which you showed by winning DECISIVELY 4-2. Nowhere close.
I pray to God to give you and your family strength to bear the backlash back home. Kudos for standing up to the spirit of Olympics.❤
Someone must have put a big gambling bet into the game. Maybe that’s why their soured faces … 😢
A lot of people learned their lessons that day
China retired the Silver winning Badminton player He Bing Jiao because she defeated their favourite Chen yu Fei in quarterfinals
yess , her retirement is definitely forced by cba (chinese badminton association)
"resignation" code name disappeared.
There is no such thing as "resignation". You must pretend to play hard and lose. The code name is "concession". LOL
They heavily bet on the wrong person..
This team and coches need to be investigated...it looks like there was already a pre-planned favorable win for one player, and the other player didn't follow and decided to give her shot to win gold instead...that's against sportsmanship.
In other countries, even if two players come from rival clubs, the fact that they both made it to the finals and represent the same country would typically lead to equal support from their fellow countrymen and women. However, this doesn't seem to be the case in China, highlighting the unique nature of sports culture there. I even read that Chinese companies have already produced merchandise declaring the 23-year-old player as the winner, even before the match.
In ancient times, Greek city-states would cease hostilities during wars to unite against a common foreign threat. Yet, in China, with their military-style Olympic training camps where athletes may not see their families for up to a year, the situation seems different. Chen scored top marks for not even commenting negatively on the harsh treatment she endured post-interview. Nevertheless, while I don't agree with it, it seems that many people had their Weibo accounts suspended, and a few arrests were made. I hope the woman who openly raised her middle finger at Chen received a significant social credit deduction.
Uh, well, you don't have to read it, it was actually in this video.
The chinese wanted to create a fake legend which is her compatriot rival
@@raylopez99 it always good to do your own research after watching anything
Sad to see how commercial interest rules over sportmanship. Chinese fans behavior is disgraceful.
Is it true the lady who raised the niddle finger is the public relatipns manager of the commercial company with vested interest for Sun to win? I heard she was dismissed by the company.
Thanks for the contents❤ and a big congratulations chen meng🎉
Hope international Olympic committee do something 🙏
chyna gets a gold medal in pettiness,
After careful IOC review, China gets ALL the metals for pettiness. Congratulations to China. 🥇 🥈 🥉
@@mikestewart4752 no actually that goes to Australia probably
@@chimyshark Get a grip on yourself. Being a CCP Nationalist is no way to go through life. What’s your opinion on Victor GAO’s latest embarrassing interview?
@@chimyshark hello maomao, LOL
@@mikestewart4752Yes because of drugs💉💊
Chen meng, please come to USA to represent USA. You will definitely be well supported and rewarded.
❤
@@Ye80s and take dope?
You will kill her.
Why do Americans hate their president and want Trump dead? Dark secret of Americans' democracy.
Should migrate. Every where people welcome you.
Would love to have her here but Cheng Meng’s level of play will drop if she comes to the USA.
@@twenty4seven368 her face will turn purple too.
They already printed posters for sun ying sha as a winner in China.
Pretty obvious there was betting involved, so they all tried to fix the match...
No there wasn’t. It was a question about wanting the young and coming player to win and as such could be a player for China the next many years and instead it was an older player, with only a small handful of years as an active player for the nation, who won.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Listen to yourself, what difference does that really make?
High end officials had a lot of money put in and they cooked up a lame excuse to fool the stupid masses.
You have to understand that once corruption has become systematic, nothing on this scale will ever happen without money involved.
A country who does this Despicabale and Disgusting kind of things to their own Athletes is Evil to the core.
I personally recognize and applaud Chen Mengs playing and victories. She is playing for her country and will not let the crooked corrupt coaches block her. My best wishes for Chen Meng going forward in her career. ❤❤❤
Yep! Lived there ten years. That’s par for the course.
Love you Chang Meng forever
If this happened inside China, we have a different story. But this is Olympics. This is world stage. And things can change here.
I've watched ittf for at least a decade. The Chinese team is the epitome of the law of power 'never outshine the master" -R. Greene . Sun Yingsha is the A team champion currently for females . In table tennis if the winner loses , the outcome is an Upset . An upset is an Upset .
This is just how china is. The definition of china.
Answer Begins: 4:04
100%... China is like this.... but in every country sports & politics overlap in various ways...
That is BEYOND SHAMEFUL
You did good, forget the haters! Gold is good! 🙏👍♥️💟💓
After watching this I think the chinese Badminton association also forced he bing jiao to retire after this Olympics since she defeated chen yu fei
Congratulations Chen Meng! China may have turned its back on you, but many other countries (like the USA) would appreciate your sacrifices, recognize your achievements, and welcome you with open arms.
@@islandguy858 Be careful who you welcome. Many of these people are so brainwashed they accept this kind of humiliation as part of the plan. It’s all hard to imagine unless you’ve lived there for ten years and speak the language.
Wow, this enlightened me considerably. As a former very competitive athlete, I couldn't fathom someone telling me to lose. WTF, that would have NEVER happened. That is so wrong in so many ways. A trophy I didn't earn or deserve? I'll admit I was a believer for a while with wrestling (a tad naive), but again, no clue till now on this kind of crap. You go Chen Meng! Immensely proud of you, and what you believe.
Thanks for the video.
Can someone explain please why chinese crowd hate this female winner
Makes no sense. Maybe one player is more marketable.
I would cheer for the unfavored.
Chen Meng, you are the GOAT. They are jealous of you. I will always support you ❤😂
Here in america i wana buy cheng mengs jersey to support her
I love the Chinese people
I doubt she would get any money but it's a nice sentiment nonetheless
How can people even hate Chen Meng man...she is such a nice girl
Old girl who is losing her spark. This is definitely her last big win, a massive upset to finish her career. Sun Ying sha is the future generation, young, talented, and cute as well. It's no wonder she is so popular and Chen meng is disliked. Doesn't change the outcome, and they seemed to be on good terms, sharing a hug and celebrating each other's accomplishment. Chen meng is very mature and mentally rock solid.
So cheating and corruption is part of chinese sports? Well color me shocked.
I hope the poor girl that won gold will leave China and become recognized for her talents.
How is this cheating? It’s only match fixing. As a competitor from another country it would serve me best if China match fixed to send the weaker opponent to me.
@@HH-yc7oz If you are a competitor and ok with match fixing then my dear young buddy you are a cheater and do not belong in fair sports.
But somehow I doubt it. I am pretty sure that you are one of the fabled 50-cent army. In other words: a paid (badly paid) troll.
Is it was cheating and corruption Chen would have lost. The better player won on the day, she may not be popular with most home fans of the two finalist but were do you see the cheating? Maybe Sun deliberately loss? Its easier to throw a game than winning.
1) The interview of Chen Meng at the beginnning is from another game, that was earlier, that was earlier
2) Yili commercial preparation is nothing unusual, but that they tested it like that is unusual, but still it doesn’t mean much
3) why people like Shasha more is because Shasha won all the important games, Chen Meng was never the one to win the important games for China,
4) You can see from the group competition, Shasha was ranked number 1. S he always played as the number 1 person in the group competition and played against the strongest players from the other foreign teams, she always had the biggest responsibility, she won a lot of important games, She saved the Chinese team many times. She has more fans because of that, also more of her fans went to the Olympics to watch her. I think, if Chen Meng would play against a foreigner, the Chinese audience would cheer for her.
5) The possible reason why the coaches were so upset, is that the women's coach might have given Shasha's data about how to beat her to Chen Meng (which is not allowed) and Chen Meng trained exactly according to this data. All the coaches could look through that. Before that Shasha won many times against Chen Meng. This also meant that Chen Meng's playing gave away Shasha’s secrets to all the other countries. This could be seen in the group competition later, but the foreign teams didn't have enough time to practice as much as Chen Meng. If they would have, it would have been super bad for the Chinese team, because they might have won against Shasha as well.
6) The theory that the commercial money is bigger if Shasha wins, doesn't make sense because they share the money anyways no matter who wins; Chen Meng actually has more commercial brands value (Dior for example), Shasha only has a socks and a milk brand ...
7) Match fixing happened before to let a player get into the next round who is more likely to win against a foreign player, but this doesn't make sense in the final between Shasha and Chen Meng
The combination of power and money is an irresistible temptation in modern utilitarian society, especially in China’s traditional authoritarian culture, where people often worship this power and allow themselves to be manipulated in the name of collective glory.
President Xi said I ordered fans to booed Chen Meng cos Sun Yingsha is my relative. 🤣😂
Tell everybody here you support Chen Meng
Oh Bollocks
Go chen meng!..🏓🏓congratulations👏👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love Chen Meng 🎉
Let's all further help the Chinese out by reducing any Made-in-China purchases whenever humanly possible.
@@kateryan9988 Having lived in Macau, China I know how their biased, prejudiced system works. They make laws requiring 51% of any foreign enterprise in China is owned by Chinese. Then they spy and steal your technology. Then they eliminate you during the final phase. Along the way, they make you eliminate the jobs done by foreign workers or you won’t be able to renew any licensing agreements to remain in business.
Take off your mom's underwear first!
Then take off your mom's underwear first.
If you banned a country because an athlete was cheated ( if) then you must stop to purchase even toothpicks from USA!! xaxaax good ..moral stand but for wrong ...state!
@@georgeantonopoulos545 That was as clear as mud!
Positivity guys, positivity…peace baby.
Politics of China's sports
Blatant and disgusting. Mega respect to the lady who stood her ground, and won simply based on her abilities.
That is absolutely heartbreaking
I think that this issue mainly comes through table tennis having a huge fanbase in china. It is just like football in europe where in one country there is different clubs and those have different fanbases that are harshly against each other. For iternational competition this issue doesnt exist in football and other teamsports because you find the best players and build one team that everybody is supporting. But in table tennis in the individual event nothing changes and the chinese people cheer for the player they are supporting normally also on the international stage. You could see in the Team event everybody also cheered for Chen Meng because it was the same situation as in football with building teams. Then everybody is for her and her Team because it is their countries team.
they had already hoped that Cheng would not even have qualified for Paris
Makes me realise that sport fans in my country wasn't really that bad after all, when the final ends up having our countries representatives facing each other we support both since we know that we will be champion anyway regardless the results
To the people who watched the video, Sun Yingsha is considered one of China's MOST favourite athletes. Chen Meng in the other hand was getting cheered on by her home city Qingdao. On buildings, it will say "Come on Chen Meng!". You guys won't trust me but, my grandma taught Chen Meng before when she was only 6. Chen Meng is over 30 years old with no husband and children. So for her last game she should be respected. Fuck the Sun Yingha fans, especially the one who pointed the middle finger at her.
Same reason why China tried so hard to make sure Ma Long does not participate the singles.
Paris 24 is history...
Damn, everybody was disappointed. Seems everyone was in on this white elephant.
This means that they were betting money against her and also most of the people from the crowd are npc
Kudos to chen meng
2:30 the video is from Saudi Smash, not Olympics.
It's distorting the spirit of sport, shame on them.
Putting hiroshima and atomic bomb in the same sentence was a strange decision💀
So if I get it right Cheng won Olimpic gold for China in Tokio 2021 and all of them were against her just because of some marketing companie, even though I don't care about women table tennis I'm glad Cheng won again and hopefully she will win again in 2028 LA if Chinese coaches "think" she's not good enough for China, a lot of other countries would be happy for her to represent them and possibly win the 🥇 again
Hive-Minds
The fact that there is a fandom should be viewed as positively. Rather than ZERO fandom.
We are the champion Cheng Meng
What a wonderful champion!
at least the netizens are standing up for her
Chen Meng can play for Japan now! Hooray! 😅
She was not raising the middle finger...was making a heart gesture.....kpop sign
Its the Asian idol fanatic antics.
sounds kind of like some illegal sports betting.
This is so Painful😢😢😢... I love Chenxs gameplay sooooo much... Sun also play awesome, is the future female champion.
this is literally unsportsmanship match fixing. next time PRC exhibits this, ban them from the next Olympics.
Sports betting. She may end up missing and never be found.
They are lucky atleast they have players to chose whom to support.
Chinese women have such charming accents.
I think its as simple as one was a higher ranking player than the other.
Black fan culture explained the audience but not the coaches or the winner reception when she won and appeared on the podium. This has been going on for years. Simple solution, fixing matches by coaching team means instant expulsion for the whole team no matter the sport. In this olympics this was blatent in the speed walking, badminton and table tennis that i saw.
Given the fact that some years ago Liu Guiliang fought against the higher management for pursuit of righteousness(Ma Long supported him), and after becoming the head, he himself is involved in conflict of interest, is deeply disappointing.
Many betting sites so I’m sure they wanted her to throw the game
Chen Meng you are welcome to represent the Philippines
Its not about being rigged or staged. I love both the players. Everyone had expected sun yingsha to win. And she's on the line to her fastest grand Slam in sports history. Sun has tons of crazy toxic fans and chen ruined the streak. Well talking about who's better. Its a fact that Sun is far superior. She had beaten chen meng in most of the cases.
The whole olympics is weird😂
Based on what happened, is it even logical the coaches fixed the game?
If they fixed it for Chen to win, how would they lost a lot of money as many suggested here?
If they fixed it for Sun to win, why would Sun's fans get upset with them as seen here?
Chen, who had been world champion multiple times, did not get upset and
turned that negative dynamics to motivate herself in the game.
Sun's irrational fans had actually helped Chen to perform better.
Sun, as a graceful player, did not even get upset either.
Only her fans got upset, because they are probably the only ones losing money.
And the people trying to shift the blame elsewhere will not change anything.
If the coaches did anything wrong, they will lose their coaching jobs since that is
how the sport authorities manages the Chinese national sport teams.
It’s okie, if China discarded her, there will be countless countries will reside her. Welcome to the world. And congrats to Miss Chen.
Despicable Fans..!!!
Problem is the fan club.
it happens in the wtt tournaments no surprise.ask any table tennis fans the entire audience overwhelmingly support Sasha
Before I watched this video I could not name a single ping pong player, still can't.
I thought Ping Pong was a player they named the game after? Guess not...
Well done
There were simply more Sun Yingsha fans in the crowd and they were more vocal, otherwise there is no hate against Chen Meng. Stop making something out of nothing, they are all from the same team and the best players in the world. Sun Yingsha is likely to play in the next Olympics while Chen Meng will not. China also underwent coaching changes and still figuring things out, which was probably why their progress was shakey. However, they won EVERY EVENT whereas in Tokyo they lost the mixed doubles to Japan. BTW, how did Japan do? It was a meltdown, that's the real story.
Not a one time incident. Happened to marathoners