Luc remember me. We both tried out for Kinky Kong. I might have gotten the role but you truly showed me moves I didn’t think the adult body could do! If you end up watching the movie you might recognize a few of your own moves 😜
This isn’t true at all if they’re playing Starliege Photon Blast Dragon that gives Target protection as well as destruction protection. Some lists don’t play it true, but there’s quite a few that do just specifically to counter Ultimate Slayer.
I've played the deck for a month or so. It's nice but you basically high roll on opening nept. This deck is really bad if you don't open nept and pass to 1 ht 90% of the time you dont open it.
thats what I wanna know lol I just picked up all the white woods cards and I love the strategy and cards. I know its supposed to be way more powerful come February with the new support
@ all I’m saying is that in a meta where Fiendsmith Yubel, FK Azamina, Tenpai, and Snake-Eye are still running around, managing to do it with GB shows that the deck is actually competent? Also still haven’t addressed why Purrely is placed higher. That’s actually an easy win for GB.
@@I3raveryy careful dude - he’s gonna ask you for your autograph as a result. 😂 I mean you CAN get it with anything but you’re playing an uphill game at that point. My main point: dude says Goblin Bikers is bad but puts Purrely in a higher tier. K lol
Ritual Beast performed really well at Bologna,why is your opinion of it so bad? Even without shifter it's engine is very good into Deadnador imo. With Lara in grave and all normal summons not activating on summon and Nochis targeting protection i think it's fairly good into Ryzeal
I'm not a Ritual Beast player by all means. However, you gotta account that with Lancea in the format this deck should also suffer by alot. Also without the access to Protos/Collossus (under Lancea ofc) the endboard is not that great anymore. And similar to Tempai, RB won matches with Shifter alone which isn't possible with Ryzeal and Maliss in the upcoming format. But thats just my thought process :)
@Xentrien lancea is definitely super strong,but that doesnt stop him from ranking maliss that high. Ritual beast has results to back up it's strength. I am not saying it's best deck,i just think it's rated too low
@@derohneleben8205 He just doesn't like the deck, his opinion is not objective, ritual beast was supposed to die after fuwalos and look how many tops ritual beast has after ROTA.
@@derohneleben8205 Maliss has angles to play through Lancea, I don't think Ritual Beast does, its a case of RB getting caught in the cross-fire where Lancea's play is potentially a big blowout - combine that with an uptick in Purulia for Ryzeal in my opinion, and every deck has at minimum 6 major blowouts to hurt RB (not to mention Fuwalos and D-Barrier are also going to be super common)
I like the layout for the decks you made. I think this set is going to power creep really hard and you either play the 2 new decks or you lose. It’s unfortunate, but it’s how the game continues to be relevant.
@@kerkertrandov459have you not seen how the older formats have created new decks because they have time to work out new ideas. Rather than the meta changing so quickly and not giving any chance to be creative
what do you think about runick next format? i dont play that competitively so i’ll probably stay on it anyway but i’d love to hear your thoughts on any viable builds or ways to play it next format
World maybe Play without the math lab, all of Ryzeal is Rank 4 and Even malice do Not have enough ranks or level. I Play also lab and would try both methods
As much as I think Ryzeal is the better deck of the format I think that Maliss is the deck with the higher ceiling and has more complex lines than Ryzeal. Maliss when it gets more spells and possibly a link-1 or link-2 it would make it rise to the top of the ranks. The best potential has to be Maliss forsure in my opinion. I wanna know what u think tho
Couldn’t yubel still preform a hell of a lot better playing a couple board breakers instead of 18 hand traps like the 12-6 or 9-9 hand traps to board breakers, I’m still new to yubel but to me unless it gets gutted on the next banlist I think it’s still gonna preform really well
@@locotaco360they will have a better chance regardless, the ryzeal board is just 3 pops and a monster negate. You deal with deadnader in yubel you win the game
hey lucas good video, do you thgink that branded despia has a chance this coming format? dominus impulce should drop in usage due to it being bad vs the top 2 decks right?
crossout/called by if u dont have either but u have white rabbit do white rabbit set trap + make linguriboh and thatll be fine + handtraps into maliss as u neg their first trap and handtrap their lines. vs ryzeal pray u have an extender to go ip+trap and make white binder on their turn
you say that ryzeal is really good into handtraps, which I heard quite often. But you also mention that many other decks on this list dont play very well into handtraps (like centurion for example) so I was wondering: Do you think we are more likely going into a handtrap or boardbreaker format? Ty
Snake-eye is a non contending deck. There no reason for Maliss or Ryzeal to play shifter, which lets memento be more playable. Also ready to duel is not the best source for OCG information, look at Road of the king for more accurate tournament reporting.
@ i know Rotk Yeah but if List will be killing fire it will come the same i guess There is easy option to Play Memento with goblin Engine to count ryzeal maybe a Little cope but we will see
I disagree with the snake eye fire king. People will be siding shifter or maining it just to stop it. People cannot take the deck out of the equation until its dead The issue is that they will have to face 5 shifter decks in the upcoming format
Abyss dweller and shifter does great into snake eyes. Shifter kinda screws me too but its not that bad as ryzeal. Also retaliating C and droll are great vs snake eyes too. Not enough side deck for all tho, wonder which is better. Droll is op vs anything but the ash opener.
Is the ocg playing flying c? If not how come? If used properly it seems like the perfect side card first or 2nd against ryzeal. As long as you wait for them to get locked which would happen almost all the time even if they start to play 1 link in ed they wouldnt be able to summon it until their next turn.
Thank you for the insights and the video. I'm curious solely on the position of Lab relative to Voiceless as Voiceless outperformed Lab the last few months in the OCG and was recently the 3rd most successful deck. Do you think format differences and player preference lead to that discrepancy?
I was reluctant calling Ryzeal better than current SE variants. However, the success of the Fiendsmith/Handtrap made me change my mind. The Ryzeal deck is just the same, but an even better engine. I still think SE needs some more hits to let some rouge-ish decks breath a bit.
The only thing I think I disagree with is that I believe maliss at first will be better than ryzeal. Us not getting seventh ascension for 3.5 months is pretty big. And yes I understand we still have small world and 3 bonfire
ironic cause tenpai autoloses to maliss cause of darkfluid and how + maliss goes everyturn and if they try and koaki meiru draco u can still play around it easily
Branded is only ever as good as the player base. No one good is playing the deck anymore so it’s fallen off. Still has lots of potential though since it can be built to do anything
mermail lines are anti nibiru, normally takes 3 hand traps to stop their turn since there is really no correct spots to hit unless its imperm on shark or ash on shadow or abyssrhine. cant tell you how many times my opp started with 1-0 cards in hand bc hand traps did absolutley nothing and got punished by moulin. also the deck feels so weak now compared to playing with the support post supreme darkness. easily over powers malice and ryzeal. the real problems abyss dweller and shifter
@ lol i mean i get it im just saying impulse is gonna be less common and removal is probably one of the less effective interaction points against it so i feel like itll probably be get better into the next meta. its not one of my main decks i was just wondering his thoughts
After Suda, if will almost always be getting into an Omni within a few summons, unless you literally hand trap it to death it will end on a good board. But it can't play very many handtraps, and if you don't draw into board breakers going second. You are probably cooked.
Do you think other decks like Mimighoul will be decent in this format? If so, what variation? Also with the set being UR heavy, do you think both decks will be more affordable or less? And what would you suggest for a more budget player?
Really feel like you're overestimating Maliss and Ryzeal. Every time I see gameplay with those decks it just looks like cheeks compared to Snake Eye or Yubel. If we don't have an impactful banlist I don't think the new decks do anything.
@LucSacco You're a far better player than me and for sure a better player than people I've seen playing the new decks so far so I'm willing to believe that, just haven't seen it so far.
Poor Ryu-Ge not even breathing the same air as the other 2 new decks lol.
Luc remember me. We both tried out for Kinky Kong. I might have gotten the role but you truly showed me moves I didn’t think the adult body could do! If you end up watching the movie you might recognize a few of your own moves 😜
AM I IN THE CREDITS?!?
Ultimate Slayer almost completely cooks Ryzeal going second. No Detonator and no fieldspell basically ends 90% of their interaction.
This is so cap. The normal 1 card combos you get 3 dead pops and agg negate through slayer
This isn’t true at all if they’re playing Starliege Photon Blast Dragon that gives Target protection as well as destruction protection. Some lists don’t play it true, but there’s quite a few that do just specifically to counter Ultimate Slayer.
As a Yubel player, I completely agree with what your said but it hurts 😭😭
I really think mermail is heavily slept on. Post suda at least.
I've played the deck for a month or so. It's nice but you basically high roll on opening nept. This deck is really bad if you don't open nept and pass to 1 ht 90% of the time you dont open it.
@@stuckmeister7750Play crossout package or even play diva for extra neps
@@stuckmeister7750have u ever hear of teus +dragoons or teus+ squad, abysshrine +squad, abysshrine+dragoons, pike+squad, pike + dragoons?
Watch them still put phantom to 1 even though the deck is already on the decline.
It’s on the come up TBH
Is it really though?
Crazy prediction holy
LMFAOOOO
Thoughts on White Forest Runick?
thats what I wanna know lol I just picked up all the white woods cards and I love the strategy and cards. I know its supposed to be way more powerful come February with the new support
Im so ready for CRBR
Goblin Bikers is good though 😂
Got my Nats invite with it
Considering that Purrely was placed higher, I can’t take this seriously.
Oh no! You got your invite! My bad! Lemme get your autograph!
@ all I’m saying is that in a meta where Fiendsmith Yubel, FK Azamina, Tenpai, and Snake-Eye are still running around, managing to do it with GB shows that the deck is actually competent?
Also still haven’t addressed why Purrely is placed higher. That’s actually an easy win for GB.
Man i got my invite with Luna light go 2nd and bubbled top 8 getting 9th. lLiterally in snake appo format. You can get your inv with anything.
@@I3raveryy careful dude - he’s gonna ask you for your autograph as a result. 😂
I mean you CAN get it with anything but you’re playing an uphill game at that point. My main point: dude says Goblin Bikers is bad but puts Purrely in a higher tier. K lol
Ritual Beast performed really well at Bologna,why is your opinion of it so bad?
Even without shifter it's engine is very good into Deadnador imo.
With Lara in grave and all normal summons not activating on summon and Nochis targeting protection i think it's fairly good into Ryzeal
I'm not a Ritual Beast player by all means. However, you gotta account that with Lancea in the format this deck should also suffer by alot. Also without the access to Protos/Collossus (under Lancea ofc) the endboard is not that great anymore. And similar to Tempai, RB won matches with Shifter alone which isn't possible with Ryzeal and Maliss in the upcoming format.
But thats just my thought process :)
@Xentrien lancea is definitely super strong,but that doesnt stop him from ranking maliss that high.
Ritual beast has results to back up it's strength.
I am not saying it's best deck,i just think it's rated too low
@@derohneleben8205 He just doesn't like the deck, his opinion is not objective, ritual beast was supposed to die after fuwalos and look how many tops ritual beast has after ROTA.
@@derohneleben8205 Maliss has angles to play through Lancea, I don't think Ritual Beast does, its a case of RB getting caught in the cross-fire where Lancea's play is potentially a big blowout - combine that with an uptick in Purulia for Ryzeal in my opinion, and every deck has at minimum 6 major blowouts to hurt RB (not to mention Fuwalos and D-Barrier are also going to be super common)
YIPPY
There's a YTP of you. You should watch it.
What version of lab do you think will perform best next format? Furniture lab, math lab or something like fiendsmith lab?
Furniture
@@LucSaccowhy?
@@okaaan7707 Furniture lab can turn 0 set and activate d barrier turn skipping ryzeal in game 1.
1:00 "we see a lot less shifter getting played" later on puts Memento in bider cuz of Shifter, doesnt really make sense to me argument-wise
yeah he is a good player and maybe he is right, but the reasoning was pretty bad on some of these.
What do you think of melodious next format?
It’s a little inconsistent that’s the problem it’s always had.
I like the layout for the decks you made. I think this set is going to power creep really hard and you either play the 2 new decks or you lose. It’s unfortunate, but it’s how the game continues to be relevant.
How is it unfortunate that u get to try new decks instead of the same old same old? We need variety and im tired of tenpai snake-eyes and yubel
@@kerkertrandov459have you not seen how the older formats have created new decks because they have time to work out new ideas. Rather than the meta changing so quickly and not giving any chance to be creative
can't fiendsmith kash grind really well and play ht and breakers?
plus there isn't one card it looses too so it's harder to side for bc no one will except it plus malice is weaker to ht
The board is too weak tho and ryzeal and clear the follow up easy
what do you think about runick next format? i dont play that competitively so i’ll probably stay on it anyway but i’d love to hear your thoughts on any viable builds or ways to play it next format
How about unchained as a rogue pick into ryzeal? Putting pressure on the deadnader pops
That seems good ngl. Makes me wanna look into it.
depending on how expensive the new two decks will be, i'm considering labrynth next format. question is, funriture or trap/math lab ?
World maybe Play without the math lab, all of Ryzeal is Rank 4 and Even malice do Not have enough ranks or level. I Play also lab and would try both methods
What version of lab do you think will be the best, heavy trap, furniture, fiendsmith, etc?
As much as I think Ryzeal is the better deck of the format I think that Maliss is the deck with the higher ceiling and has more complex lines than Ryzeal. Maliss when it gets more spells and possibly a link-1 or link-2 it would make it rise to the top of the ranks. The best potential has to be Maliss forsure in my opinion. I wanna know what u think tho
Will you be doing a new handtrap tier list for post-CRBR as well?
Probably next week
Couldn’t yubel still preform a hell of a lot better playing a couple board breakers instead of 18 hand traps like the 12-6 or 9-9 hand traps to board breakers, I’m still new to yubel but to me unless it gets gutted on the next banlist I think it’s still gonna preform really well
It’s a contending deck. But it’s significantly worse than the other decks.
@@LucSaccoit’s a good question tho. if they run more board breakers instead of hand traps could they have a better chance?
@@locotaco360they will have a better chance regardless, the ryzeal board is just 3 pops and a monster negate. You deal with deadnader in yubel you win the game
@@Epon-vn3tr cope
@@kerkertrandov459 i’ve got nothing to cope about unless they hit yubel in the banlist, if they don’t touch yubel or snake eyes ryzeal stinks
hey lucas good video, do you thgink that branded despia has a chance this coming format? dominus impulce should drop in usage due to it being bad vs the top 2 decks right?
We have to let go brother. It's over.
Hey luc I wanted to know your opinion on melodious going into next format
I love maliss going into the next format but my god I still haven’t figured out how to beat lancea :(
Cross out probably best bet tbh
crossout/called by if u dont have either but u have white rabbit do white rabbit set trap + make linguriboh and thatll be fine + handtraps into maliss as u neg their first trap and handtrap their lines. vs ryzeal pray u have an extender to go ip+trap and make white binder on their turn
You don’t, some decks just have silver bullets against them and the best you can do is learn to build a decent board through them
thrust into a trap perhaps?
You don't. Lancea cooks Maliss and it is the most commonly played side deck card in the OCG for that reason
Another banger. He don’t stop
I really feel like yubel is just a better maliss ngl
you say that ryzeal is really good into handtraps, which I heard quite often. But you also mention that many other decks on this list dont play very well into handtraps (like centurion for example) so I was wondering: Do you think we are more likely going into a handtrap or boardbreaker format?
Ty
Why is Memento in ocg a tier under s Tier ryzeal? Look new post ready for duel
Snake-eye is a non contending deck. There no reason for Maliss or Ryzeal to play shifter, which lets memento be more playable. Also ready to duel is not the best source for OCG information, look at Road of the king for more accurate tournament reporting.
@ i know Rotk
Yeah but if List will be killing fire it will come the same i guess
There is easy option to Play Memento with goblin Engine to count ryzeal maybe a Little cope but we will see
Thoughts on chimera fiend smith or chimera azamina fiendsmith? Also how about white Forrest azamina?
They all suck going 2nd. Dice roll deck
memento been in the binder few weeks now very sad to see☹️
What would the Thrust targets be to hinder Maliss if you get Shiftered?
Ddkc
Simul Archfiends or daruma
Or a Dominus Impulse
You want Lancea vs Maliss. A Thrust target isn't necessary but Sanctum is there to fetch Lancea going 1st in case you don't hard open it.
I disagree with the snake eye fire king. People will be siding shifter or maining it just to stop it.
People cannot take the deck out of the equation until its dead
The issue is that they will have to face 5 shifter decks in the upcoming format
Abyss dweller and shifter does great into snake eyes. Shifter kinda screws me too but its not that bad as ryzeal. Also retaliating C and droll are great vs snake eyes too. Not enough side deck for all tho, wonder which is better. Droll is op vs anything but the ash opener.
Is the ocg playing flying c? If not how come? If used properly it seems like the perfect side card first or 2nd against ryzeal. As long as you wait for them to get locked which would happen almost all the time even if they start to play 1 link in ed they wouldnt be able to summon it until their next turn.
Flying c and contact c are horrible, ex send agg negate it then full combo, node send it for eff, summon ice send it.
@LucSacco got it wasn't familiar with the cards yet didn't know they could out it with the engine
No space in this list for Unchained? :(
Scuffed list imo but decent enough
Where is Branded ? ( the good answer is "in the binder next to my trash")
Nah you should sell it to a local back pack vender for 15%
Thank you for the insights and the video. I'm curious solely on the position of Lab relative to Voiceless as Voiceless outperformed Lab the last few months in the OCG and was recently the 3rd most successful deck. Do you think format differences and player preference lead to that discrepancy?
Saying floo was terrible since release is a hot take. Floo with statue come on.
I was reluctant calling Ryzeal better than current SE variants. However, the success of the Fiendsmith/Handtrap made me change my mind.
The Ryzeal deck is just the same, but an even better engine.
I still think SE needs some more hits to let some rouge-ish decks breath a bit.
where would you put white forest azamina
In my binder
@@LucSacco lel
The only thing I think I disagree with is that I believe maliss at first will be better than ryzeal. Us not getting seventh ascension for 3.5 months is pretty big. And yes I understand we still have small world and 3 bonfire
Maliss has too many lose conditions and is too vulnerable to hand traps. It wont be better.
Do you think pure fire king will be better than fire king snake eye?
definitely not, if you dont open ulcanix then the field spell is such a major weakspot of the deck
No, the fire king I mention is fire king snake-eye
Maliss at tier 1 is loltastic. Deck isn't really much better than tenpai
It’s a lot better than tenpai. Tenpai is horrendous.
Most decks are better than tenpai. Tenpai is some fuckin dogshit
ironic cause tenpai autoloses to maliss cause of darkfluid and how + maliss goes everyturn and if they try and koaki meiru draco u can still play around it easily
@@Greeds_Isn't Teraherz the one that turns off Tenpai?
@@ak47dragunovterahertz’s name is darkfluid lol
Fiendsmith chimera?
6 ritual beast in top 64 of last YCS and the deck sucks? Hmm
Memento top 4 . * Back in the binder * And the funniest part is that memento actually has an amazing matchup against ryzeal.
@@theorangepillnurse5399 I mean it’s Europe though they let Rikka win almost every event
@ haha well true
December format bro, Yugioh players and not reading, name a better duo
@ 😂😂😂
Where would six Sam be put?
Sell it to your locals at 10%. That deck is bad bad
Is branded non-existant now?
Yup
@LucSacco I think you are wrong, it doesn't look too horrible it looks better than some decks out there on the tier list
@@3bdallahmans.706there are 6 ash blossoms and just 1 of them ftk branded
Branded is only ever as good as the player base. No one good is playing the deck anymore so it’s fallen off. Still has lots of potential though since it can be built to do anything
mermail lines are anti nibiru, normally takes 3 hand traps to stop their turn since there is really no correct spots to hit unless its imperm on shark or ash on shadow or abyssrhine. cant tell you how many times my opp started with 1-0 cards in hand bc hand traps did absolutley nothing and got punished by moulin. also the deck feels so weak now compared to playing with the support post supreme darkness. easily over powers malice and ryzeal. the real problems abyss dweller and shifter
Cope
@@kerkertrandov459 shifter and dweller
opinions on branded?
Play a new deck
@ lol i mean i get it im just saying impulse is gonna be less common and removal is probably one of the less effective interaction points against it so i feel like itll probably be get better into the next meta. its not one of my main decks i was just wondering his thoughts
white forest?
Back in your binder.
@@LucSacco lmao
@@LucSaccostill in the binder after suda?
@@LucSacco:(
After Suda, if will almost always be getting into an Omni within a few summons, unless you literally hand trap it to death it will end on a good board.
But it can't play very many handtraps, and if you don't draw into board breakers going second. You are probably cooked.
Do you think other decks like Mimighoul will be decent in this format? If so, what variation?
Also with the set being UR heavy, do you think both decks will be more affordable or less? And what would you suggest for a more budget player?
So if u dont play ryzeal u can go home basically
Lol not at all
Shifter needs to get banned trash no skill card Memento Best Deck 🫶🏽
Also droll & lock bird
Really feel like you're overestimating Maliss and Ryzeal. Every time I see gameplay with those decks it just looks like cheeks compared to Snake Eye or Yubel. If we don't have an impactful banlist I don't think the new decks do anything.
We’ve been testing a lot and it’s so much better you have no idea. The ryzeal cards are so good into a board
@LucSacco You're a far better player than me and for sure a better player than people I've seen playing the new decks so far so I'm willing to believe that, just haven't seen it so far.
can you give me the ryzeal cards you pull then please 😭 🙏🏽
@@rmcleodify Imagine buying product instead of singles in 2024
@@LucSaccothoughts on Maliss?