Solving basement flooding issues with PVC pipes, correcting grade, and replacing concrete
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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We install a PVC drainage system, correct the grading around the foundation, and install a concrete patio to solve the basement flooding issues.
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You did the right thing by taking responsibility. The fact that you did your best to fix the issue says a lot about your integrity as a business owner. Reputation is everything and takes years to earn.
Thank you Alan. I agree and I'm glad I didn't let her pay for the concrete on the day and until we came to a resolution.
@@GCFDDid you see the video of the state inspector walk through a roped off concrete sidewalk twice, Idiots will always find a way to mess up fresh concrete. You did the right thing.
@@GCFD Will you do work in the Browns Summit area? I'm 8min E of 29
Considering there was a FedEx envelope sitting at the door when you guys started, its pretty obvious they do get people walking up to the door. I watch other concrete videos and this seems to be a constant problem (Amazon, UPS, FedEx, USPS, or even just random people) no matter how well its marked. Sure, some caution tape can be a good CYA move but really when you guys walk away the job's done and whatever happens afterward shouldn't be your problem. Owning it is a sign of a great contractor and I applaud you. Sounds like a challenging customer.
You did your job 100% right and you proved you are a professional. The home owner just used the 1% defect against you to avoid paying. Some people love to be thieves.
What a headache!
She seems like a real winner. You warned her against the driveway flooding etc but she didn't listen. As they say - "You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink." In her case the garage is drinking the water.
Even though this job didnt work out 100%, this will show your real personality as a contractor. Giving a discount and going the extra mile will go a long way for you, with your business.
Thank you Kevin!
I miss the rain footage its always amazing how the water flows away from the property but you did the right thing, I wager you will make sure you put up caution tape from now on, great insightful video as usual.
For sure Lee! We did a driveway recently and I had four huge cones with caution tape strung around them. No problems!
Same. Just not the same without a money shot.
Drainage is the money shot
Tape doesn't mean someone won't still try thinking the tape is old. It shifts blame onto the home owner. But that's still ugly!
You did all that you could do… Some people are never ever happy. They’re too picky especially when it comes to the most expensive thing that they own. You are far more patient than me.
I don't wanna be disrespecful in any way and watch your videos completely and with enthusiasm. But I always like the concrete work the most.
I enjoy watching concrete videos too, like Odell Complete Concrete on yt.
Miss seeing the after videos with the rain. Please add some!!
I love the aerial introduction, gives the viewers a look of what the setting is for the job as you begin.
Same. Once I started using the drone, I realized just how important that overall footage could be.
Great job Shawn. Your experience at issues like this shows how well you do your job.
Thank you!
Great work!
You did the right thing by taking the responsibility and fixing it. However the homeowner wanting multiple different colors I’m not sure!
Aww man I'm gutted for you about the footprints, your work is always spot-on. I would maybe leave one of your more trusted guys with the concrete men because the couple of times it went wrong it was the concrete that caused the issue - best wishes from the UK.
Great idea Craig! It was just so unfortunate that it happened like this...
You took the ultimate responsibility so good on you
You could have roped it off
Could have sat and watched it for a while
Maybe the home owner did it by accident
Or maybe on purpose
Who knows
You did the right thing at the end of the day
It shows your true character for whats it worth ❤
Just before this video was uploaded, I was up behind the house hand digging a small trench, thinking of Shawn. Due to all the west coast rain, there's been new streams popping up in hilly areas because the water table is full. I had to walk up into the woods a few hundred feet in elevation, and redirect a flow coming right down the middle of a dirt road and making its way past the front of my home and a few others. Managed to cut it off way before it gets to the residential area and force it toward the normal drainage valley into a creek.
Nice work! I always try to identify the source of the problem water and deal with it at the source. 👍👍
Commenting from Southwest Louisiana: it's so amazing to see Shawn just packing soil up against the brick walls to prevent flooding, where down here our brick walls are more of a facade with a cavity behind it with weep holes to allow air flow for drying out behind the wall.
Hey Shawn, you did the right thing accepting responsibility with the patio. Nothing's worse than having someone work on your house and they get slippery when something goes wrong. It's odd she didn't let you finish the color, but who knows. And good move sticking to your original assessment of that driveway / garage area, that seemed a difficult and costly fix. Hopefully the Realtor stepped up when the garage flooded (but see slippery comment above). Good to see Ray, I don't think we've seen him since your diving trip you shared! Thanks for the well made videos.
First of all, the MAIN Job was successfully completed with a impeccable out come. You shed the water from the house, job completed. Secondly, footprints or not, you did the homeowner a huge favor, putting in that small front patio. Worst case, she can put a concrete bench or large planter there. Whether or not it was roped off or not, she is responsible for the entire site, IMO! Lastly, you kicked ass, as usual. 10/10
Your a person I would do business with anytime and would definitely recommend to others because you always do things the right way and the best way you can which is hard to find nowadays, too bad that they were too picky about the coloring but you did your due diligence yet still had to take the hit. Good on you for keeping your brand all about quality.
You did the right thing. As regards the client forgetting whether or not they have paid, always best to confirm conversations with emails. You were being the good guy by refusing to take payment before they were satisfied with the job but things do get innocently forgotten in the duration of a project. Hopefully no regrets or sour taste left in the mouth on your part or the client. The amount of repeat business is testament to your work.
Wisdom comes from experience (typically a bad experience).
That's great Andrew!
That's a real bummer on the 👣.....but little details that get screwed up are what people remember, but seems like you handled it as well as anyone could have
Thank you Chris!
Try this technique to make an uneven color, even. Mix the same type cement used on the foundation to a liquid or to paint type consistency. Spread it over the entire work area like a stain and cross your fingers. Practice this technique on some concrete you don't have to
worry about. Let dry, and then beat on it, walk on it and drive on it, wet it, pressure spray etc.
Might save some money. Good luck!
Thank you Charles!
It’s really educational and interesting to see the whole process from start to end. Thanks for putting these videos out!
Thank you!
I could watch you work all day. Very professional.
Thank you Joe!
WOW, that was a long drain - and the further you go the deeper the drain has to be.
Yep! You have to maintain fall and PVC helps a lot with that.
Live and learn… Certainly we the viewers have, quite a lot. The videos make the entire process seem easy, linear, logical, seamless, and it’s probably anything but in the moment. Documenting and retrospecting really helps, indeed. Thanks!
Thank you! I could have edited the footprints out of the video, but I like to show a true representation of what happened. I left out the several trips I made attempting to change the color of the sealer because I was getting frustrated with that part....
@@GCFD If you edited the foot prints out of the video that would have been a mistake. Integrity from start to finish with your customers and your viewers is key. You are keeping it real and that's what makes your videos great.
they tend to screw up when he is not around.
Thank you Shane! I like depicting the true flow of events too. I'm glad you're enjoying my stuff
Always exciting watching what water issues you solve. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you DM!
You’re a lot more patient than I would be.
Haha Ry, this one was awful because of the footprints. The overall job/solution was great but the footprints were so unfortunate.
Sending positive energy. Seems like your concrete guys keep letting you down, hopefully you can get that figured out
Don't hire them again.
We've done a bunch of good stuff, so it's all good.
If you stick with the concrete guys, suggest you monitor their work more closely or establish some standard installation methods and practices like installing safety tape and checking grade on every pour.
Could the youngest member of concrete crew be at fault?
@@Tony2tall Never. I've ran crews before, the last thing you would do is blame it on the new guy. Ultimately it should be the Foreman's responsibility. End of story! Either that person wasn't trained right or didn't know any better... Foreman takes responsibility. The foreman should know what each member of his crew is capable of doing, yet should still look over the job before leaving for the day.
Great video. Awesome that you got to show all the different things in this video. The drainage work, the concrete work and the grading!
Thank you Steve! This one solved the flooding issues completely in the basement.
Excellent work
I think you’re a straight up contractor. Stuff happens. You took responsibility to do all you could to remedy the problem. Unfortunate for sure, but hey…the basement doesn’t flood, and she learned a hard lesson over the garage driveway issue. You cautioned her.
Hi Shawn, tough one. Shawn I noticed when you were chipping out the front stoop there was the glass door. I got a bit worried lol I was waiting for a sheet of plywood lol. To bad it ended on a sour note. But you solved the basement issue great video. I thought you were going to cut those prints out. Take it easy……..Bobby
I was waiting for that door to pop too!
@@jacksonbennett6151 I thought I saw a mark on the glass before they guys started standing in front of it.
You chose a professional way to handle it. Well done in my opinion, you did everything in your control. Love your content, great work!
How great to do a drainage inspection PRIOR to buying the property... wish I'd thought of it!
What a bummer about those footprints Shawn... You are a very conscientious person and it kinda hurts to see this happen! 😞As you said, it was "all over two cents' worth of caution tape." Amen to that. Sigh.... 😩
Thank you Sheena! I really tried to solve the footprints and I wanted the customer to be happy. We're still on good terms, and I took full responsibility, but I was definitely over this one. I didn't have the drive to chase the rain on this one, even though the flooding problems have been solved completely.
such nice air shots, nice, so sorry that it went sideways with those footprints :(
I've watched a lot of your videos. I've seen a couple where you have left the site before the concretors have completely finished and unfortunately there has been some issues. So, IMO, you need to stay until the end to ensure everything is finished off correctly. You've delegated the task but wear the responsibility to rectify/resolve the issue
Amazing work! 2 foot prints changed everything. It would have been good to see more footage of the painted concrete.
For sure. The footprints were still somewhat visible if you knew they were there, so we changed the color with three more trips out there. I just didn't want to bring the cameras anymore.
Cmon, we need video during the rain
It wasn't super apparent in this video, but that footprint thing was a disaster. I just didn't want to make another trip over there.
Awesome work.
It's probably someone been nosy, about what's been going on, done a great job of that, and pleased you stopped the water from getting in, love watching the trencher work how deep of trench will it do, it been an excellent video 👌👍
Thank you Taylor! That trencher is set up with a 6x24" bar and chain. You can get them up to 48" but have to go narrower.
From when we were out on the property all looked great, I do remember wondering why the concrete was a different color as the video does show. At the end of the day you did the right thing in taking the fault. It does suck and hurt the profit or if you even made money at the end of the day with the extra trips out. I
Finally a video. I love these videos
Thank you Jimmy! I'm waiting for rain footage for a few others that are on the way.
The gutters are nonissue because they can easily run the vertical pipe all the way up to the base of the gutters which would give your pipes great watter flow. This is just like your city watter tower...no pump's needed to bring the city water from the city water tower, directly to your home. Water from your gutters will force the water to flow as long as the pipes are sealed together between the intake to the exit point.
FYI Use the flat of the shove as leverage to force pipe in at the end. stick nose just under end of pipe then push towards connection
You handled it the best you could, it honestly sounds like this home owner is just a bit out of their depth and general understanding of alot of the work done. I think the biggest take away here is to remember to have all the payments/plans in writing so both parties fully understand what is and when things are paid for along the scope of the projects. A good learning lesson about the concrete a well. That caution tape is thin and cheap but divides things between liability and doing a favor.
Hey Shawn that’s unfortunate that no one fessed up. Great job on handling it professionally though!
I would cut the sod and move to the side before trenching. Also, I would put down plastic beside the trencher to catch the loose dirt to make it easier to shovel back over top of the pipe after trenching. Then re-install the sod on top, rather than putting in hay on top. Nice job overall. I thought the coating on the concrete looked fine.
That was an interesting solution.
You guys do such amazing work. This isn't a critique at all but a lesson I learned recently from a plumber friend of mine after I had to have my PVC lines cleared after they got blocked with roots: whenever you flex PVC connections even a little bit after they've been set with pvc cement, they will eventually start to fail just enough to allow roots to penetrate in.
As always, nice work!
The way you’re pushing against the concrete to break it out is the exact same way I knocked in a cinderblock basement wall. Just FYI.
Thanks for the tip! I usually try to pull, but we were pushing to fill the bucket.
Could you diamond grind the surface of the concrete to get rid of the footprints? Obviously you'd have to do the whole thing to make the finish consistent, but it might look better than stain/paint. Or alternatively cut it at a control joint and replace part of the slab.
Hey Shaun. Long time watcher. Love your videos. I run a construction company in church hill, TN. Have you ever looked into 20 foot sections of pvc? They come with a bell coupling already attached on 1 side. A lot of municipalities use it. May be worth looking into
Thank you Jeremy!
I would like to see you spend a day with Victory Outdoor Services crew and do some concrete work.
Another nice job. I actually thought the concrete patio looked good with the grey paint finish. Interesting that “the realtor said” no water problem in the garage. They should have listened to you.
Let the customer pick out the color, they can live with the end result whether they like it or not. Always get you money as quick as you can, a partial refund is an option, great video!
I know Bruce. You're right. I just couldn't take any money until we attempted to fix the footprints.
I hesitated on whether I should comment on this job because I'm a big fan of your work, and I've watched all your videos. I also know the work you do is hard and trusting your guys to pay attention to the small details as a business owner can be a challenge. I would hire you to handle drainage issues because your attention to detail is second to none but the concrete workers just seem to fall short. Their work product isn't the same level as your drainage work. I rarely comment on videos so I hope people don't beat me up too bad but the concrete guys seem to rush the process. The devil is in the details.
You need to let Ryan from Victory do all your concrete work. Sorry, but I have seen too many vids where the concrete guys keep costing you $$$.
How unfortunate, Sean. Cool project but I guess not such a cool customer. Good job on you. I love how you take responsibility for the stuff you do and even for the mistakes other people make. I don't think you'll get very rich doing that but you're building up treasure in heaven as we say in my faith tradition.
If it were me, I'd consider it a lesson learned. It's not the homeowner's fault someone walked on unmarked wet concrete. I would have torn it out and replaced it. Yeah, it'd suck, but the homeowner would be happy and when you add up the money from the discount you gave, all your trips over there, the frustration on both sides, and the time and materials you used trying to fix it, I'd bet the cost difference was negligible.
You're probably right El Cheapo. Hindsight is always 50/50, right?
@@GCFD They call it "life" Shawn! Live and learn.
I remember when you were there the first time to the assessment on it and you said everything then like you said now and there's not much you can do she said no. Don't worry about, I'm going to buy whatever the footprints and the cement the caution tape. That's another story. It probably would have helped but you don't know that either. But not much you can do about it now. She bought it. She's there. I guess she's got to live with it. Other than all that stuff it turned out pretty good. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
How do you like that machine for doing the trench’s?
in regards to the grading, if the soil was sandy what would have been the remedy?
I didn't see any caution tape put up. Did they do that?
I don't understand them not letting you finish. Are they planning to replace it or paint it separately?
Hi Shawn,
Two thoughts regarding the concrete work. 1. Concrete was too wet when poured which slowed the curing and prevented you from overseeing the finishing of the project which is your responsibility.
The concrete crew should have shouldered some of the financial burden for their mistake.
All that having been said, as a RUclips armchair captain, I understand there were lots of other factors going on in this project which you were carefully juggling. I appreciate that everything doesn’t always go well.
I look forward to your videos. Well done.
Thank you Ken! I could have edited the footprint fiasco out of the video but I like to tell the real story of how the job goes. I'm glad you're enjoying the channel.
Hi Shawn. What a frustrating job, which you don't need. Petty foot prints. The first stain colour was a concrete colour, which would age in time. The customer seems to be very petty. Cement mixed neat with water to make a slurry, and used to paint the slab, keep in mind.
29:27 I like it when you go really high up with the drone camera. I like to see if anyone has any solar panels installed!
As for the lack of caution tape, it's good that you took the responsibility, but I also think you should at least let the concrete guys know what happened. (you didn't mention if you did or did not let them know) We all need feedback to improve our work, not tell you to expect them to pony up either.
Thank you! I like those shots too and I'll keep doing it since you like it. 👍👍
Ray’s accent is hilarious. 🙂
I know! I like talking to him
@@GCFD Is that accent normal for North Carolina? I didn’t think NC was far enough south to have accents like that. 🙂
Haha yes some parts of NC have interesting accents.
You have had some bad luck with concrete guys but this one unfortunately is your issue and you did the right thing by giving her a discount.. I was looking forward to that Rain video though
Little worried about the pour over that pipe though. Compromising thickness of concrete create and failure point. Hopefully doesn’t crack along the pipe
Cracking concrete is a consideration for sure. Getting the pipe sloping correctly is more important in this case, so we had to settle for thinner concrete over the properly-placed pipe. I always go with getting the house protected over a crack forming over a thin section. 👍
At least you went back to clean up those foot prints ! And caution tape sure would have helped ! But things like that happen ! 😇😇😇
You could put some physical barrier on the path leading to the patio like garden furniture. Then tape off the rest.
Next time, Pete!
The home owner did it on purpose. I have a lot of tradesmen friends they tell me that customers do damage to their own stuff all the time to try to get a lower rate and blame it on the tradesmen. This looks like a scam to me but good on you for at least trying to resolve the issue in a fair way. Cheers.
That's what contracts are for but no one seems to have one so we don't have you say I said you said from the home owner.
Luckily she reviewed the contract and realized she hadn't paid for the concrete work yet.
We always say, the devil is in the details. You handled it well.
Thank you Dennis!
I think coating it was good. The sound while it was mixing, sounded like the Orca when the sea water was in the engine compartment.
Looks like Miguel’s boot size!
Learning experience
Thanks for the video. Have you done something on hydraulic cement before? If not could you?
I would like to see plywood sheets on the grass to prevent damage to yard.
yeah... i think you did the right thing following up with a repair and discount. Great job though.
Thank you William!
Nice work Shawn and Jeremy!
Once you get the pvc pipe set at the right grade do you place dirt underneath and beside pipe to secure or just cover overtop with earth?
I am noticing that you are not using Male / Female piping for your drainage, but using straight pipe and then using connectors to join them, is this correct or am I missing something??
Yes we use couplers to join straight pipes.
@@GCFD - So Straight Pipe and couplers are cheaper than Male / Female piping then or is there another reason?
I think the kid stepped in the concrete. 😉 I hate it when someone won't let you finish something. Paints always look different wet than after they have dried.
The sealer looks awesome and she got $$$$ worth of sealing.
How long before all the substandard PBC is crushed?
Why do you think schedule 40 PVC is substandard? What is standard or better than sch 40? Thanks Cliff!
@@GCFD I have seen a lot of that schedule crushed. From roots, people drive vehicle over it.
Looks as though you have a bit of a hill you have to get through. You could do with a tunnel to get good down bubble. Its a shame you don't have inserts that match the design for those downpipes.
Bob I like the fit of the rectangular downspout to round coupler connection because it leaves space to access the pipes if needed. I can fit a snake or jetter hose in that space if needed.
Yeah, you did the right thing. Always get paid at time of job, even if u have finishing touches. My buddy is out 12 waiting now legal fees are building up to point there is a Lien on the property he worked on. But there was a FedEx package there when you started so who knows and by not putting the caution tape it’s kind of the contractors fault
I'm surprised you didn't do a channel drain (a small one) on the patio.
There wasn't the fall for it. A channel drain would be at least 10" lower than the top of the patio (where the downspout pipe started), and the patio had decent fall to it. Plus adding a 5" drop into a channel drain and that's your new high point to start a run across the yard. It just didn't work. The excess water does flow along the front sidewalk so the water does have a way out. 👍
@@GCFD ah okay makes sense
Too bad about the footprints, I think you were correct to take responsibility. It's a tough call and you did try to make it right. I have seen in another project video where part of the concrete was re-poured, but maybe that wasn't feasible here.
All you can do is do your best.
Some screen over drain ends keep out critters ,and debris .
Love your videos
How were you able to avoid hitting their water pipe ? And you should tell us what kind of music your using.
How do you determine where to cut the lines in the concrete and how many lines?
Seems like it would have made more sense to have that front gutter pitch the other direction and bring the down spout on the other end of house, then into some pvc…
Hi , I was wondering if you could go out about 20 feet and then switch to the perferated pipe ? to drain into the the ground away from the house , ?
Maybe could’ve installed a lamppost one on prints and one evenly on other side. Would have to drill wire thru though