@@-funny-4034 ? They only picked Bind in 1/3 games? And they lost 11-13 against LEV on it, so it's not like they did bad either considering LEV being a solid fundamental team with incredible pistol rounds.
@@Browniev2 My man, why are you focusing so much on Bind? PRX been losing on every map, with or without Yoru. Their playstyle does not work anymore, and they can't adapt well to a new working one, that simply it.
its true, he used to work especially good in breeze for me and because they removed it im glad they got lotus which is better than what breeze was for him.
As a yoru main with countless hours on this agent, I gotta admit the beginning was ROUGH 😂 high skill floor and endless skill ceiling on our favorite blue boi
@hamzaladha6510 I used to only play phoenix cuz he's really simple but now I can play neon and she's really hard to play but also mostly simple aside from her advanced bunny hopping But also those 2 are the only duelists I'm interested in playing
@@sebaschan-uwu the only thing stopping me from using neon is that my PC is a potato so it's hard af to do sudden and accurate movements like bunny hopping and my mouse pad is sht too which makes it even harder...but yea neon is a fun agent only if I u know how to bunny hop
Honestly neon is the hardest duelist to 'master' if you take her movement tech and parkour into the equation. Rotational/directional strafe dodging and all that bunnyhopping jazz aint easy. Grumpyonval does it best
same, I think she should be number 4 and killjoy at number 5. Killjoy you gotta memorize all these setups and lineups, whereas viper only has some lineups needed. if you don't play smart by switching up your setups a bit, the enemies will just be breaking them and you'll be wasting creds and being useless with no utils left. (same can be said for cypher, though, but I feel like his setups are more simple though just broken easier). Raze just has 2 satchels, the other utils of her kit are super easy to use. Neon on the other hand, her movement is crazy difficult to abuse, you'd get shot if you aren't careful. her stuns are difficult to bounce correctly, though her ult and wall are pretty self explanatory and easy to use.
I like the feeling of being a god when my utility is all global. Her ult is global. Its all on a large scale she gives as little map info as possible because she won't have to be present to put pressure on tifht spaces, always plan ahead, foresight is key to the key, kinda reflects her as a character. Giving the feels of a goddess. Edit: Always leave booty cracks in your smokes to punish those greedy defenders with a second star.
I main Astra from the day Pearl came out; honestly, she is so easy and useful. Not even gonna lie, I play her only when I don't wanna do anything and it works out pretty well. You get so much value with her that it doesn't even need you to get kills or frag or do anything impactful because the case is that rare you or anyone will counter her and you don't know how to counter her so that is by far her most significant advantage, not the fact she is demanding.
Yoru is super fun to play with. But also once your TP is caught, you need to change tactics instantly. Even flashes don't save you. I love the mind games. Especially with fake clones and fake TPs.
If you think about it, astra is extremely easy to use I don't get why she's not played so much. She gets to buy stars every round and u get to pick what to use them on. The smokes are completely standard, and nothing too complicated, then she also has a stun and suck which are also not hard to use at all, just use them for peaks and site entering, or post plant. Lastly her ult is just a wall that helps control a certain area. What's so hard about that, only challenging part can be to combo these with teamplay, but even without teamplay it's still an easy and viable agent
I was a pretty good raze player for a long while until I took a brake from val, all my raze skills were gone. But I still play everything since I have no main and I can almost perfectly play any agent my team wants me to
Astra main here, Astra being hard is a misconception she is really all about having a good sense of the game and how to time her star usage and placement, and her abilities are really simple to use Please note that I am terrible at this game
you're having a misconception with learning and mastering, learning is simple its just about what the abilities do and how to use them. mastering is your game sense, time usage and all about what you said but game sense is also a thing you learn in the long run so its harder to master
I'm Astra main but I don't wanna play smokes, because the amount of stress and techniques I have to think every round is enough to increase my migraine pain a lot.
i remember, when i was a first timer and bought yoru, i used his flash like sage's slow orb. so, i blinded all of my enemies and so as me and my allies during teamfight... i learned my lesson.
As a Yoru main i definetely agree, as when i was maining Yoru doing tp at the right places, learning where the bounce flash goes, doing 200 IQ plays with his clone and opening site and catching enemies offguard is very hard and mastering him is something on another level
I'm still bronze, and whenever there's some random guy instalocking Yoru, i know this will be a bad game. 90% of the time they just play him because of the cool design, and then he will teleport randomly, flash his own teammates, ulting to feed, etc.
I just started the game and I'm already getting good with Sova even when I don't use the maps that much. I still can get kills across maps with his ultimate
I would also say Neon is kinda difficult to master too because you need to learn her movement, have momentum with bhopping, strafing, and slide adjustment
Kayo is definitely more difficult to get value out of in your average lobby Sova needs like 5 mins watching a YT lineup video and you get most of his value from dart. It's foolproof
we played 5 smokers on the other day and i was the only one who unlocked astra so i played her. literally needed to go afk for one round to learn how to freaking use the ult since nobody including enemy team known
sova players need map knowledge and geometry. and also memory being able to remember a ton lineups is crazy. on each map i always have atleast 50 lineups.
i already mastered all the agents said in this video and i would say sova is really easy but using his util to the fullest will be the problem since players usually just use his recon and drone with his shock darts only for post plant. what i usually do when droning is ofc checking corners very carefully and its a really good bait for cypher trips or to check enemy util like kj setup. next is his recon, u dont usually need to use his recon every round at the same spot, changing where your recon hits means your opponent cant hide when they think they know where your recon is gonna hit, and also his recon is good for clearing smokes so you can kill them at the opposite side of the smoke or inside the smoke. you may think shock darts are just for lineups or are relatively useless in scenarios but its good to use them for clearing corners, with the addition of where you think its gonna go, also remember you can mark the area you want to hit by marking it using Z Key, using his shock darts to clear corners gives your duelist a chance to fight the defending or attacking side. Raze meanwhile is like neon but can predictable since her satchel line ups are at the same spot as always but once shes in the air she may be a bit unpredictable (unless you 1 tap her right away mid air) i would say her satchel would be the most difficult to use due to the memorization you have to do with the addition you would have to find a way to enter a site and kill and defend while not dying or atleast trade a kill her boom bot is a good util to clear corners but can be paired with raze satchels and can push the boom bot towards enemy. her nade is a VERY VERY good util since it will help your team clear or capture a kill make sure to pair the nade while aiming where you know the enemy is hiding Her ultimate is also not for kills, as you could see in some satchel + ult boost, you can basically speedrun to their spawn without getting seen next is Yoru, yoru has a very complex blind, his blind is very powerful if used correctly since you wont be able to see his blind moving across until it hits something which in term makes the enemy think theyre at this place but are actually very close and ready to kill his tp is hard to place at a good spot when attacking thats why there are lineups for them to get them to far reaches. his clone is not just a fake but can be used to body block yourself from enemy fire when your inside your clone, they will either shoot which would blind them and would be a easy kill for you (paired with tp or not) or not shoot it and get blasted by you. lastly his ult, i see often that yoru's ult is used for recon but no offense strat with it, paired with either using his full util when against the enemy is a big nono since you have less resource when your done with your ult and occasionally you may die right away after util use, i would say use for recon try to pick one enemy but if it doesnt work tp back.
as a viper and raze main, satcheling took me 2 whole weeks to master it and after that i was really good. and for viper, i didnt know using her was hard because the first agent i bought was viper and i used her most of the time. so i am honored to be a viper main.
As someone who solo queues and has to fill as controller, I often pick Astra as she is good on a variety of maps. Also, I feel honoured because random teammates won't give calls and you have to extensively use the mini map to help your teammates out. That's what I like about Astra players. I respect them 🙏
yoru is the best agent for me, first I picked yoru bc he looks cool, but after I knew he is such and overpowered agent, I main yoru still have never played another agent in my whole life
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Sova is a special one tho cus he is easy to learn but hard to master
He’s still one of my favorites
same with viper
@@nerrick9602 nah new vipers just spam abilities, its yoru in this case
Same with neon
agreed
Yoru mains out there please raise a hand✋
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Yoru is the easiest agent to learn and master
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@@o_Pebble bruh
@@o_Pebblefrom Ohio ?
I mained all of them and ended up maining cypher because I love to play underrated agents
Same bro , while playing i almost learned every agent watching RUclips tutorials for hours, and now I play cypher
U mained them but have u masterd them?
Edit:u still are really smart playing those agents
@@switchman8053 Considering I have more hours ingame than being outside I can say yes, yes I think I have "mastered them"
I am trying to master cypher, it is a very funny agent
Same I went from sova and Astra to cypher
"Yoru is extremely hard to master"
PRX Forsaken: "random bullsh*t go!!"
There is a reason wht PRX became a low-tier team after Masters 2
@@-funny-4034 cause bind was removed. They played 1 bad game. Admittedly, it was horrible, yes, but they didn't have their best map and c9 did.
@@Browniev2 bind was still in Champions and PRX got stomped out of it.
@@-funny-4034 ? They only picked Bind in 1/3 games? And they lost 11-13 against LEV on it, so it's not like they did bad either considering LEV being a solid fundamental team with incredible pistol rounds.
@@Browniev2 My man, why are you focusing so much on Bind? PRX been losing on every map, with or without Yoru. Their playstyle does not work anymore, and they can't adapt well to a new working one, that simply it.
As an Astra main, I am honored haha
Yes yes yes
Yea same xD
Same. Astra mains, assemble
Same haha
Respect for Astra mains 👋👋 ( but not if you are under 15 )
As a neon main, I can confirm that phoenix is the hardest agent due to the incredible amount of skill you need to place cypher's devour
bro you on drugs?
I'm sorry, what?
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“as a astra main you definitely have 200iq+”
the astra kj combo that always gets you and instakills you when you try to defuse:
Ads yoru main I can confirm I’m constantly trying to think of out plays with him. Lotus is like a playground for yoru
its true, he used to work especially good in breeze for me and because they removed it im glad they got lotus which is better than what breeze was for him.
yoru on bind gotta b3 the funniest shit ever in comp
@@nerd4968 I did see one guy pick it in comp....
As an astra main, i DEFINITELY touch grass!
Sure you do
I can confirm as an astra main
As a yoru main with countless hours on this agent, I gotta admit the beginning was ROUGH 😂 high skill floor and endless skill ceiling on our favorite blue boi
ong i got 1500+ hours on yoru, make my own lineups n sht, and still learn new sht every day or so. love this agent man
I played yoru once and I'm never playing him again
@@sebaschan-uwu yea Yoru is hard, but for me it's neon coz I don't like her playstyle
@hamzaladha6510 I used to only play phoenix cuz he's really simple but now I can play neon and she's really hard to play but also mostly simple aside from her advanced bunny hopping
But also those 2 are the only duelists I'm interested in playing
@@sebaschan-uwu the only thing stopping me from using neon is that my PC is a potato so it's hard af to do sudden and accurate movements like bunny hopping and my mouse pad is sht too which makes it even harder...but yea neon is a fun agent only if I u know how to bunny hop
Honestly neon is the hardest duelist to 'master' if you take her movement tech and parkour into the equation. Rotational/directional strafe dodging and all that bunnyhopping jazz aint easy. Grumpyonval does it best
The only thing that's hard when playing Viper is me 😈
SAME
bro down horrendous💀
@@scyken16th fr fr
Bro plays valorant to get hard
I feel like neon should be on this list too since movement is hard to master and you need good movement to get max value out of her
same, I think she should be number 4 and killjoy at number 5. Killjoy you gotta memorize all these setups and lineups, whereas viper only has some lineups needed. if you don't play smart by switching up your setups a bit, the enemies will just be breaking them and you'll be wasting creds and being useless with no utils left. (same can be said for cypher, though, but I feel like his setups are more simple though just broken easier).
Raze just has 2 satchels, the other utils of her kit are super easy to use. Neon on the other hand, her movement is crazy difficult to abuse, you'd get shot if you aren't careful. her stuns are difficult to bounce correctly, though her ult and wall are pretty self explanatory and easy to use.
Finally somebody acknowledged the pain us Yoru mains had to go through to master him
I like the feeling of being a god when my utility is all global. Her ult is global. Its all on a large scale she gives as little map info as possible because she won't have to be present to put pressure on tifht spaces, always plan ahead, foresight is key to the key, kinda reflects her as a character. Giving the feels of a goddess. Edit: Always leave booty cracks in your smokes to punish those greedy defenders with a second star.
As a yoru main, yea it’s a huge learning curve, but once you get past it it’s so much fun
Me wondering in the corner of the room that people mains Astra
My head hurts after all the thinking yoru requires but the plays are insane
Watch Rob on yt
I main Astra from the day Pearl came out; honestly, she is so easy and useful. Not even gonna lie, I play her only when I don't wanna do anything and it works out pretty well. You get so much value with her that it doesn't even need you to get kills or frag or do anything impactful because the case is that rare you or anyone will counter her and you don't know how to counter her so that is by far her most significant advantage, not the fact she is demanding.
Cypher is so underrated
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Yoru is super fun to play with. But also once your TP is caught, you need to change tactics instantly. Even flashes don't save you. I love the mind games. Especially with fake clones and fake TPs.
Us yoru mains finally getting recognition 🥹🥹🥹
Yaa bro me so happy 😊😊
The fact that my friend has mained yoru and astra for a long time and mains viper now is insane..
I'm that friend
When I was iron and bronze,I mained sova,viper and yoru
I got to plat with viper alone lol
As an Astra player and soon to be main, I’m gonna tell you: it’s less about us being smart and more about people being gullible
People usually don’t know how the agent works, that makes it easier.
If you think about it, astra is extremely easy to use I don't get why she's not played so much.
She gets to buy stars every round and u get to pick what to use them on.
The smokes are completely standard, and nothing too complicated, then she also has a stun and suck which are also not hard to use at all, just use them for peaks and site entering, or post plant. Lastly her ult is just a wall that helps control a certain area.
What's so hard about that, only challenging part can be to combo these with teamplay, but even without teamplay it's still an easy and viable agent
people mostly base of agents by how well it is in pro play. so yk and since she got nerfed by a lot pro play rarely use her thats why
I love how you acknowledge yoru respect man ❤
Nah bro, this list is more like the agents with the HIGHEST SKILL CEILING
I'm a yoru main and hv nearly 1000 hrs on yoru my first 50 hrs i didn't know wtf i was doing 💀💀
I think we all didn't when we mained Yoru 💀
Been with Yoru for months now and never switch again. I learn how to trick the enemy by myself time to time and its pretty fun
Not me who climber iron-asc2 with yoru 💀
I was a pretty good raze player for a long while until I took a brake from val, all my raze skills were gone. But I still play everything since I have no main and I can almost perfectly play any agent my team wants me to
Neon mains watching this 🗿
It's so hard so master Neon 😵 the movements, the dodging the strafing
It just sounds simple but it ain't
Yeah finally someone mentions neon
I am neon main and i need to learn proper Dodge strafe 🗿
It took me 10mins to perfect the satchels and I Main kay/o 💀💀💀
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I can put 1 smoke with Astra and I don't play valorant ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Ain't gonna lie, it's hella fun to annoy opponents with Yoru. Like I'm not even that good with Yoru but opponents get pissed off whenever I play Yoru
Neon should be on this list as you have to know what you're doing, where they are, and to have quick reactions.
Astra main here, Astra being hard is a misconception she is really all about having a good sense of the game and how to time her star usage and placement, and her abilities are really simple to use
Please note that I am terrible at this game
you're having a misconception with learning and mastering, learning is simple its just about what the abilities do and how to use them. mastering is your game sense, time usage and all about what you said but game sense is also a thing you learn in the long run so its harder to master
@@PIXELValo sorry my bad thanks for telling me
Proud to be yoru main :)
I main him for his Japanese aesthetic. But no he is lots of fun to play couldn’t have chosen anyone else to main
i learned how to double satchel well on raze in practice match under 30 minutes
I'm Astra main but I don't wanna play smokes, because the amount of stress and techniques I have to think every round is enough to increase my migraine pain a lot.
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As someone that mained Astra, I actually find her much easier to play compared to Omen and Brim. I never touched controllers till Astra came out.
me who mains every agent: my power is beyond your understanding
i don’t play her, but neon gotta be an honorable mention, if you have seen grumpy’s movement, youll know
As a yoru main, I’m flattered 😩
Chamber is up there now. Bros teleport range is tiny af, his trap has a range, and his guns actually require aim
The setups are super limited now, which for better or worse makes him more simple to play
Nah bro chamber still easy to master u only need good aim for chamber, but he like bit more duelist need to play aggressive
i remember, when i was a first timer and bought yoru, i used his flash like sage's slow orb. so, i blinded all of my enemies and so as me and my allies during teamfight... i learned my lesson.
I used to be dumber, I was a chamber main, now I’m Astra main.
Yoru is hard to play cuz if u wanna fake your decoy, everyone will be shooting on whatever moves a single inch
I've been playing sova for years now, and I'm still learning new things about him
Finally someone understands me in my yoru tech
I played all of the agents but I main Raze because of how satisfying it is to use the satchels
Neon : where am i
As a Yoru main i definetely agree, as when i was maining Yoru doing tp at the right places, learning where the bounce flash goes, doing 200 IQ plays with his clone and opening site and catching enemies offguard is very hard and mastering him is something on another level
As a yoru main i can confirmed that it took a lot of effort to master
I'm still bronze, and whenever there's some random guy instalocking Yoru, i know this will be a bad game. 90% of the time they just play him because of the cool design, and then he will teleport randomly, flash his own teammates, ulting to feed, etc.
"*1v5 situation*"
Teammates: Now do your thing
Yoru main: *RANDOM BULLSHT, GO!*
"ACE"
I just started the game and I'm already getting good with Sova even when I don't use the maps that much. I still can get kills across maps with his ultimate
The Astra hiding in spawn placing the the thing that pulls you off spike to take rounds 😮
i main raze and all you need to know is that you have to master the movement in valorant as well as some map knowledge to get a good bombshell throw
As an Astra main somethings i even suprise my self because i can predict and read the enemy team really well
Idk if that first Astra was sarcasm but I kinda feel proud of being one
I would also say Neon is kinda difficult to master too because you need to learn her movement, have momentum with bhopping, strafing, and slide adjustment
I think neon is pretty up there. You have to have good movement and positioning but you also need the gun skill to back it up
Me deciding my first agent: "Let's go with Viper. She's hot and green. Everything i need."
Kayo is definitely more difficult to get value out of in your average lobby
Sova needs like 5 mins watching a YT lineup video and you get most of his value from dart. It's foolproof
Happy as a Yoru main since he released that Yoru's getting some love
Cypher is underrated agent bro ,,, if you mastered it u can easily take control every time
THE SATURATION LEVELS ARE AT ANOTHER LEVEL
"Sova need map knowledge"
Like bro I can just ping at a direction and then I can just straight up make a line up
“Learning how to perfectly satchel”
*laughs as a junkrat main (ow) and a soldier (tf2)main*
Ty for the compliment for astra mains 😮
Well Astra is kinda easy to use when you have coms and map knowledge
this is why some people thinks astra sucks cuz shes so hard to use i believe everyone is good if you know how to use them
we played 5 smokers on the other day and i was the only one who unlocked astra so i played her. literally needed to go afk for one round to learn how to freaking use the ult since nobody including enemy team known
A yoru main here, the only thing I needed was superb game sense and the ability to predict and surprise enemies
amount of IQ all the Phoenix players have while throwing flashes is unbelievable
This is why yoru mains rarely shows up in your matches - yoru main here
I still don't know how to use astra
But for some reason every time i see an astra in a game, they are the mvp of their team
astra is my fav smoker, i like doing this pretty ratty smokes:), also map control you getting by playing her is insane
All of these 5, only yoru is giving me hard time learning as a newbie
Cypher not being on here is criminal
That 1% of people who don’t know yoru takes a high amount of skill all end up on my lobbies and fucking bottom frag
Who let this guy cook 🔥☠️💀🗣️😭
sova players need map knowledge and geometry. and also memory being able to remember a ton lineups is crazy. on each map i always have atleast 50 lineups.
Cypher in the corner : 💀
Becoming a cypher main like arce the dog is very tough too
Me practicing satchels has become a meme in my school
As a raze/sova main I can rightfully say i mastered them because there was a time where i got bored and literally INVENTED sova double shock lineups
radiant yoru one trick with 2.5k hours on him here and still think there’s so much room to improve and utilize yoru to his full potential
As an sage main i see this as an absolute win😊
As an Omen main, my disappointment is inmesurable
Same, all the teleporting in the map but i still couldnt find my father 😭
*harbor laughing at the corner*
i already mastered all the agents said in this video and i would say sova is really easy but using his util to the fullest will be the problem since players usually just use his recon and drone with his shock darts only for post plant.
what i usually do when droning is ofc checking corners very carefully and its a really good bait for cypher trips or to check enemy util like kj setup.
next is his recon, u dont usually need to use his recon every round at the same spot,
changing where your recon hits means your opponent cant hide when they think they know where your recon is gonna hit,
and also his recon is good for clearing
smokes so you can kill them at the opposite side of the smoke or inside the smoke.
you may think shock darts are just for lineups or are relatively useless in scenarios but its good to use them for clearing corners, with the addition of where you think its gonna go, also remember you can mark the area you want to hit by marking it using Z Key, using his shock darts to clear corners gives your duelist a chance to fight the defending or attacking side.
Raze meanwhile is like neon but can predictable since her satchel line ups are
at the same spot as always but once shes in the air she may be a bit unpredictable (unless you 1 tap her right away mid air)
i would say her satchel would be the most difficult to use due to the memorization you have to do with the addition you would have to find a way to enter a site and kill and defend while not dying or atleast trade a kill
her boom bot is a good util to clear corners but can be paired with raze satchels and can push the boom bot towards enemy.
her nade is a VERY VERY good util since it will help your team clear or capture a kill
make sure to pair the nade while aiming where you know the enemy is hiding
Her ultimate is also not for kills, as you could see in some satchel + ult boost,
you can basically speedrun to their spawn without getting seen
next is Yoru, yoru has a very complex blind, his blind is very powerful if used correctly since you wont be able to see his blind moving across until it hits something which in term makes the enemy think theyre at this place but are actually very close and ready to kill
his tp is hard to place at a good spot when attacking thats why there are lineups for them to get them to far reaches.
his clone is not just a fake but can be used to body block yourself from enemy fire when your inside your clone, they will either shoot which would blind them and would be a easy kill for you (paired with tp or not) or not shoot it and get blasted by you.
lastly his ult, i see often that yoru's ult is used for recon but no offense strat with it, paired with either using his full util when against the enemy is a big nono since you have less resource when your done with your ult and occasionally you may die right away after util use, i would say use for recon try to pick one enemy but if it doesnt work tp back.
as a viper and raze main, satcheling took me 2 whole weeks to master it and after that i was really good. and for viper, i didnt know using her was hard because the first agent i bought was viper and i used her most of the time. so i am honored to be a viper main.
I am an Astra and Yoru main and I can tell you if your team doesn't give info then both of these agents are useless.
As someone who solo queues and has to fill as controller, I often pick Astra as she is good on a variety of maps. Also, I feel honoured because random teammates won't give calls and you have to extensively use the mini map to help your teammates out. That's what I like about Astra players. I respect them 🙏
Playing Viper is hard ❌
Hard when playing Viper ✅
yoru is the best agent for me, first I picked yoru bc he looks cool, but after I knew he is such and overpowered agent, I main yoru still have never played another agent in my whole life
demoman players who mastered stickyjumping seeing raze: thats easy
As a yoru main I am very proud of self