Illegal Chemical from a Vintage 1960s Extinguisher

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2019
  • Carbon tetrachloride became very rare from being phased out internationally after 1989, but some relics of the past still contain this once-widely used chemical. Its toxicity didn't help its popularity after the 60s/70s, so its been practically 100% replaced by alternatives. In some countries carbon tet isn't that rare still! But in a country like Aus, where you basically can't import it, and we do not manufacture it here, over the last 3 decades its been completely phased out. Twitter: / explosions_fire
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  • @Samonie67
    @Samonie67 4 года назад +3953

    Tom be like: ah yes, today i will extract enslaved liver failure

    • @alexredacted2123
      @alexredacted2123 4 года назад +310

      solvonts

    • @alke5668
      @alke5668 4 года назад +8

      Lmao

    • @alke5668
      @alke5668 4 года назад +15

      Ah yes, these comments are gold

    • @adamlifevictor5772
      @adamlifevictor5772 3 года назад +9

      Solvent go brrrr

    • @jimmymulherin4505
      @jimmymulherin4505 2 года назад +10

      Maybe the danger is more in using these chemicals occupationally. My dad had a Winchester of this. Me and my friends (stupidly and irresponsibly) would take a smaller bottle out and sniff it to high. Did it on and off for years.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith 4 года назад +3292

    >Potent Hepatotoxin
    >Canister appears empty.
    *_>SNIFFS_*

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 4 года назад +507

      Liver: Mr.Tom, I don't feel so good...

    • @bryanmartinez6600
      @bryanmartinez6600 4 года назад +30

      Me
      *SNORTS*

    • @terricampbell3179
      @terricampbell3179 4 года назад +20

      @@bryanmartinez6600 your name + the comment = laughs

    • @transkryption
      @transkryption 4 года назад +3

      @@cezarcatalin1406 yeah it'll do that

    • @Exascale
      @Exascale 4 года назад +80

      Its really not as insanely toxic as the reports will tell you. Its only bad if you have alcohol in your system at the same time. Its not like smelling it one time is gonna destroy your liver. Also, this stuff is super easy to produce in large amounts from methylene chloride and a chlorine generator. Dry chlorine gas is absorbed into DCM with a dispersion tube with a UV black light source over the path. The product is chlorinated in excess until no more chlorine is absorbed and the yellow color remains. Then the final mixture is neutralized with sodium bicarbonate and distilled over. You can make a generator rather inexpensively that will yield many kilos of this stuff with ease.

  • @yourayneeum6964
    @yourayneeum6964 4 года назад +1035

    Cracking open a chlorinated one

    • @ZA-mb5di
      @ZA-mb5di 4 года назад +78

      Cracking open my liver with the feds

    • @technoman9000
      @technoman9000 2 года назад +1

      High five!

    • @benruniko
      @benruniko 2 года назад +3

      This is a criminally underrated comment

    • @DisDatK9
      @DisDatK9 2 года назад

      Blowin up the lads

    • @P-nk-m-na
      @P-nk-m-na 2 года назад +13

      crackin open a hole in the ozone layer

  • @andrewfoy.
    @andrewfoy. 4 года назад +241

    AussieRed

  • @2soldierman2
    @2soldierman2 4 года назад +1332

    So I'm not the only nut that wanders through antique shops with a Geiger.

    • @breakdance4cash228
      @breakdance4cash228 4 года назад +461

      I been taking my Geiger with me to the strip club, just to be sure these hos ain't stripping any electrons you know what im saying mang

    • @fyredoesidiotgames8451
      @fyredoesidiotgames8451 4 года назад +4

      i ended up getting mine in a antique store.

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 4 года назад +21

      The first guys that did that (especially in NM) hit gold. Later prospectors found the shelves picked clean. It's a good idea, half a century too late.

    • @tylerlowder2338
      @tylerlowder2338 4 года назад

      Why would you take a Geiger to a antique store?

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 4 года назад +24

      @@tylerlowder2338 Not an antique store, a junk store. Sometimes radioactive sources would get sold by mistake, and you could buy nice ones secondhand that way.

  • @fizzyplazmuh9024
    @fizzyplazmuh9024 2 года назад +607

    Lunacy! My father always had multiple jugs of carbon tet on the shelf in the garage. He was an electrical technician at a refinery and they used to use it liberally for cleaning boards and components. As kids we would just grab it up to clean anything and everything. We played with his gallon glass jug of mercury as well. Luckily we never dropped and shattered that thing.
    My doctor still always asks me if I have had Hepatitis. Apparently my childhood shows up on my liver stats very well.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Год назад +8

      Why did he have a gallon of mercury??

    • @johnpublic6582
      @johnpublic6582 Год назад +17

      @@RiffRaffMama. Every time a thermometer breaks you collect up the spill and save it.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Год назад +12

      @@johnpublic6582 Hmmm... there's approximately 0.5mL of mercury in the average thermometer.
      1 gallon is equivalent to 3.785L.
      Given this, it would take approximately 7,570 thermometers to produce 1 gallon of mercury.
      At a cost of around $3.64 per thermometer, that's a total of around AUD$27,555.
      I mean, if you have the time, patience and mail box capacity, it's do-able, but it seems like an incredibly inefficient way of obtaining bulk mercury to me.
      That said, it's illegal in Australia to purchase bulk mercury, so unless you want to roll the dice on ordering it from somewhere like India, it's probably your only option.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Год назад +3

      @@johnpublic6582 Also, just wondering, when you say "gallon glass JUG", do you mean jug as in an OPEN glass vessel, or did you mean something like "jar" instead?
      You've just reminded me too of something that happened when I was about 7. My mum dropped a glass mercury thermometer on the slate bathroom floor one day, shattering it. Not knowing anything about mercury, she was intrigued by the way it beaded and rolled around the crevices you get in natural slate. At the time she had really long fingernails, so she scooped the mercury up in one of her spoon-like fingernails and came and showed me. I've wondered many times over the years what that 10 minutes of holding mercury against her bare skin might have done.

    • @kbee225
      @kbee225 Год назад

      ​@@RiffRaffMama. not much. Mercury is not that easily absorbed in its metallic form. Which is why Mercury salts and complexes are more toxic than pure mercury. You can watch Cody's lab's video of him swishing mercury in his mouth.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith 4 года назад +513

    Walking through an antiques store with a geiger counter.
    ... The only thing seperating a nut from a genius is proper equipment. ;)

    • @captainjirk9564
      @captainjirk9564 4 года назад +17

      I had a history teacher who had a geiger counter that came out of Chernobyl. It wasn't radioactive, so they cleared it out when her husband came back from a team who was investigating the Zone.
      The cable was cut so it didn't work, and the original batteries were still inside. We thought to try soldering it back together but I'm pretty sure they intentionally cut the line so it wouldn't function again.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 2 года назад +5

      Just like in the immortal words of Adam Savage.
      Remember kids the only difference between science and screwing around is writing it down.

  • @haska9706
    @haska9706 4 года назад +350

    No liquid comes out: puts nose right up to the cylinder and sniffs

    • @Bladelols27
      @Bladelols27 4 года назад +30

      hes aussie, its our natural reaction.

    • @Vistico93
      @Vistico93 4 года назад +11

      He's the Wile E. Coyote of chemists

  • @Gameboygenius
    @Gameboygenius 4 года назад +636

    Extraction: ✅
    Ire: ✅
    This channel delivers on its promise!

  • @CorrosiveFox
    @CorrosiveFox 4 года назад +551

    I'm surprised your girlfriend was okay with you taking that fire extinguisher out on a date.

    • @eeooooee2234
      @eeooooee2234 4 года назад +94

      CorrosiveFox they get on so well, they have real....chemistry.
      Sorry

    • @mauz791
      @mauz791 4 года назад +2

      @@eeooooee2234 No

    • @eeooooee2234
      @eeooooee2234 4 года назад +9

      Mauz I said sorry

    • @somedatussr4323
      @somedatussr4323 3 года назад +1

      That flame is open.

    • @UwOtt
      @UwOtt 3 года назад +3

      He fucked around with it on the first date

  • @The2x4
    @The2x4 2 года назад +163

    We found a jug labeled carbon-tetra-chloride in an old basement.
    My grandma, a nuclear chemist who worked on the first reactor to power a city, said they used to use it to wash their hands back in the day.

    • @hx5525
      @hx5525 Год назад +1

      No cancer or liver problems?

    • @ratm0
      @ratm0 Год назад +26

      ​@H X yeah, no liver at all unfortunately, but on the bright side, no cancer problems either

    • @NikhillRao27
      @NikhillRao27 3 месяца назад

      @@hx5525 I'd imagine a nuclear chemist from the 50s or whatever would have bigger problems than a little CCl4

  • @TheBlackjack87nz
    @TheBlackjack87nz 4 года назад +393

    When I was working as a haematologist we would frequently use carbon tet for extracting haemogolbin from lysed red blood cells. We would get this nasty shit in bulk Winchester bottles (roughly 4.75L). Never realised how hard it was to come by as I would occasionally use it to remove stubborn stains from my clothes if I couldn't get them out with DCM.

    • @samwansitdabet6630
      @samwansitdabet6630 2 года назад +187

      you used it to WHAT

    • @nervonabliss2071
      @nervonabliss2071 2 года назад +120

      @@samwansitdabet6630 2 years later and he's now wondering where that mysterious mole came from

    • @handshoesandhorsegrenades1848
      @handshoesandhorsegrenades1848 2 года назад +15

      Omg 😳

    • @ImnotCarlSagan
      @ImnotCarlSagan 2 года назад +122

      Unrelated question, have you noticed an increase in the RGB value of your skin in the yellow direction

    • @druyoutoo
      @druyoutoo Год назад

      ​@@nervonabliss2071 😅😂😂😂

  • @kdrgaming3344
    @kdrgaming3344 4 года назад +676

    You should make some more liquid Ozone and show us how the Carbon Tet works as an Ozone depleting agent... if possible. Really I just want you to see you make liquid Ozone again haha.

    • @PorkpieJohnny
      @PorkpieJohnny 4 года назад +102

      Make an artificial ozone layer and deplete it with the carbon tet

    • @SuperAngelofglory
      @SuperAngelofglory 4 года назад +23

      funny enough, Wikipedia lists CCl4 as a solvent for O3

    • @rey_nemaattori
      @rey_nemaattori 4 года назад +32

      @@SuperAngelofglory Problem with the ozone layer is not that it dissolves O3, but that UV radiation breaks of chloride ions which then react with O3 to form O2 and ClO (eventually Cl2O2).

    • @elephystry
      @elephystry 4 года назад +6

      PoorMans Chemist ok then let’s get a uv lamp

    • @sadmermaid
      @sadmermaid 4 года назад +8

      @@elephystry or...go outside?

  • @alexwaln1053
    @alexwaln1053 4 года назад +48

    So apparently when CCl4 is heated, it decomposes/burns to form phosgene. Yes, make a tool that forms phosgene when used. Helth

  • @davidbarts6144
    @davidbarts6144 4 года назад +162

    That sure sounds just like carbon tet. It is a dense liquid, with a very distinctive odor that is hard to describe, "musty-solventy" is the best I can do. I'm old enough that I can remember it being sold as a spot remover and also using it as a reagent in chem lab. I have no doubt that's exactly what it is, based on its observed boiling point and the stated contents of the extinguisher.
    For those hyperventilating about it being "illegal," such bans typically forbid NEW MANUFACTURE of such items. The old antique he found was legally manufactured in the pre-ban era. It's just like a clock with a radium dial, a legal but hazardous antique item.

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 2 года назад +3

      The smell is the same smell that ink pens had. Rather weak chemical odor. Lacks the sweet smell that chloroform has 🤓

    • @InTrancedState
      @InTrancedState 11 месяцев назад

      God no wonder the baby boomers are such a shit lot. Everything in there world was actively trying to kill them

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc Год назад +14

    In the 60s as a kid I was around litres of carbon tet, mostly from fire extinguishers great for cleaning motorcycle brakes. So often I got in on my skin which strips off all the oils and gives you a two-day-long headache. In the 70s you could buy carbon tet in 400g aerosol cans. Jeez, one of us used an entire can to clean his trainer shoes.

  • @TwinTn
    @TwinTn 4 года назад +458

    well at least Australia does not have much of an ozone layer to deplete.

    • @Robnoxious77
      @Robnoxious77 4 года назад +18

      pretty sure that hole closed up on it’s own, which changed the “global warming” debate into the “climate change” debate.

    • @TwinTn
      @TwinTn 4 года назад +98

      @@Robnoxious77 no

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 4 года назад +11

      @@TwinTn Pull your nose out of the air and grace him with a proper response.

    • @picsi-software
      @picsi-software 4 года назад +23

      @@godfreypoon5148 but then we\d get banned. :)... @robnoxious77 nope the hole is still there, give it a couple of hundred years without damage and it might reform..

    • @TwinTn
      @TwinTn 4 года назад +13

      @Silently Sceptical no staph

  • @elnombre91
    @elnombre91 4 года назад +383

    Carbon tet is a nightmare to get hold of, but people still publish papers using it as a solvent. Bastards.
    Main reactions I can think of that use it would be 1) The Appel reaction or 2) RuO4 oxidation.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  4 года назад +244

      I have seen that occassionally, it really is a deliberate dick move

    • @ThatChemistOld
      @ThatChemistOld 4 года назад +54

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Just check out the fairly recent ones that still use Freon-11 instead of DCM; some even as recent as 2011!

    • @sweetbunny9213
      @sweetbunny9213 4 года назад +49

      In Germany its a lot easier to get, at least for institutes doing organic chemistry. I was for example doing chlorination reactions of dicarboxylic acids of calixarenes at (more or less) high tempratures

    • @OmikronPsy
      @OmikronPsy 4 года назад +78

      @@ExtractionsAndIre We have it in the lab as well, as SweetBunny92 said, in Germany it seems easier to get hold of. Although of course it is still a precious material. It is not only used in organic chemistry, but also in cancer research to very reliably induce liver cancer in mice.

    • @elnombre91
      @elnombre91 4 года назад +22

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Even people like Phil Baran aren't immune to it. We can get small (100 ml) bottles of it from Sigma, but it's expensive and you need to fill in a lot of paperwork to justify the purchase.

  • @markosullivan6444
    @markosullivan6444 4 года назад +96

    This video really takes me back. I worked as a chemist on a carbon tetrachloride plant in Runcorn (UK) in 1988 (just before it got phased out). As you say carbon tetrachloride is toxic, but some of the by-products of its manufacture were FAR worse (hexachlorobutadiene with an exposure limit of 0.02 parts per million for example). The plant made a bit more than your 75 grams, over 20,000 tonnes per annum, I believe!

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Год назад +6

      I had an entire box of 400g cans which came from Runcorn. A friend of a friend where he worked the company had to 'lose' the chemicals when the ban was about to be enforced

  • @cpoteet8008
    @cpoteet8008 4 года назад +135

    "turn it to the left"
    *Attempts to turn it left*
    *Doesnt work*
    *Immediately turns it to the right with ease*

    • @mortigus2878
      @mortigus2878 4 года назад +5

      i saw that too lol

    • @aucontraire4717
      @aucontraire4717 4 года назад +34

      Its bc hes in australia, its all upside down

    • @joeteejoetee
      @joeteejoetee 2 года назад +1

      People shoot videos with the selfie camera and it swaps Left to Right ALL DAY LONG on social media!!!😀😀😀

  • @sugarbooty
    @sugarbooty 4 года назад +1173

    Showing you obtaining a banned solvent AND your face in the same video? Ballsy move, I hope big brother doesn't raid you

    • @piranha031091
      @piranha031091 4 года назад +78

      Considering the other stuff he's done...

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu 4 года назад +187

      Preexisting samples of it should be fine, all he's done is move it from one container to another.

    • @whorcares123
      @whorcares123 4 года назад +151

      Banned for import and export. Very finicky laws, but he should be fine as long as it came from in country(which I doubt he went to another country to find an antique store that had it) and doesn't sell it.

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu 4 года назад +62

      @@whorcares123 tbh the most dangerous thing he's done is transporting an antique extinguisher in a car from the shop to his house/lab sooooo

    • @gordonlawrence4749
      @gordonlawrence4749 4 года назад +36

      It's only illegal to sell it's not illegal to posses as long as it's not made later than something like 1987 ish.

  • @timrb
    @timrb 4 года назад +86

    This channel should be called "This is what happens when you try this at home"

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 4 года назад +30

    That tutorial video you edited in, though...
    >"Turn the handle to the left"
    >*Proceeds to turn handle to the right*

    • @chadblechinger5746
      @chadblechinger5746 4 года назад +12

      I figured that left meant something different down there idk maybe the coriolis effect?

    • @-NGC-6302-
      @-NGC-6302- 3 года назад +1

      Coraustralis effect

  • @whatevernamegoeshere3644
    @whatevernamegoeshere3644 4 года назад +45

    considering you spent 2 years looking for one, you had a really good self control against grabbing the drill

  • @Someone-cr8cj
    @Someone-cr8cj 4 года назад +322

    my conclusion is that if you were supposed to use this fire extinguisher when your house is on fire you're out of luck.

    • @UnicaLuce
      @UnicaLuce 3 года назад +19

      And if it did work, which i doubt, you'd still die cause it's poisonus and cancerous at the same time! liver failure and dna damage! all in one deadly package.

    • @hvfd5956
      @hvfd5956 3 года назад +18

      Which is why they are not still hanging on the wall in the stairwell of your favorite department store. Many fire fighters died after using one. For the rest of you who haven't studied the old days of early fire departments, Carbon Tetra-chloride when dispensed onto a heated surface in the presence of Oxygen generates Phosgene gas which is poisonous and can when mixed with peroxides...explode. So if the gas doesn't kill you, the explosion will! In my sixties now, but I vividly remember one hanging on the wall in the exit stairway of the J. C. Penny's store my mother shopped at. Both mom and the extinguisher are gone, but the store was still there last time I looked.

    • @fooferutter3001
      @fooferutter3001 2 года назад +5

      "and can when mixed with peroxides...explode. "
      Shocker.

    • @pascale8964
      @pascale8964 Год назад

      @@fooferutter3001 Yeah, was gonna say. "Explodes when mixed with peroxides" doesn't really narrow it down much does it XD

    • @Aochso
      @Aochso Год назад

      @@hvfd5956 why the f**k did they even thought of using it, when it literally explodes when used in a fire

  • @deanb500
    @deanb500 4 года назад +40

    Counting the times that you pointed the business end into your face while you weren't sure how it worked :')

  • @tappel0
    @tappel0 4 года назад +48

    I think there might be small bottles of carbon tet floating around in old electronics geezers' cabinets from 80s or so when it was commonly used by electronics hobbyists for cleaning printed circuitboards.

  • @floorpizza8074
    @floorpizza8074 2 года назад +15

    In the '70's, carbon tet was sold as a cleaning solvent that could be used on "dry clean only" clothing. My mother kept a bottle in the laundry room to clean up the spots on our church clothes. I'll never be able to forget the smell of that stuff... while it does have the stereotypical "solvent" smell, carbon tet puts its own evil spin on it that is truly remarkable. And horrible. I would've been able to tell Tom if he had real carbon tet just from being close by.

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Год назад +4

      In the UK we used to buy "Dabitoff" from the local chemist, pure carbon in a little glass applicator jar

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jagmarc i thought that stuff was trichloroethane? certainly was the ones we had years ago, i still have one aerosol of trichloroethane brake cleaner somewhere,

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc 6 месяцев назад

      Before they changed it to trike it was carbon-tet @@andygozzo72

  • @mplaw77
    @mplaw77 4 года назад +15

    I worked in an industrial lab for a chlorine producer in the 1980's. We made millions and millions of pounds of CCl4 most of our product went to an adjacent company that took both our CHCl3 and CCl4 feed to make R-11, R-12, and R-22 for the air conditioner business. My lab did plant process and quality control testing for both companies. It was interesting work but toxic work yet we did not worry a lot about the toxic nature of our products. We also made methylene chloride CH2CL2 and chloromethane CH3Cl, plus HCL product. With Phenol we made made huge volumes of pentachlorophenol another banned product no doubt. All toxic yet interesting chemistry and good paying jobs. Not much exists of those organics plants today, the chlorine production still exists today and mostly goes into inorganic chlorides like NaOH and KOH and others. Some free chlorine was and is sold for water treatment for use in municipal water plants. The new owners still make use of our 600 tons per day of chlorine production at one plant and 800 tons per day at another production location. We knew in the 1980's that regulations and bans were coming and I had heard even in those days of the Montreal protocol ban. We tended to be skeptical of both ozone depletion and "acid rain" from sulfur emissions from coal fired power plants. The "acid rain" scare turned out to be false, soil acid pH changes was mostly due to land management issues. But ozone depletion proved true and seems to have recovered some. Last I heard China and India still make all the banned refrigerants they want for internal use. The main ACUTE danger from CCL4 is from the formation of phosgene gas by heating to high temperature in air. The smell around the plant was the smell of chlorine gas mixed with a hint of phosgene. New cars in the parking lot tended to have their nice paint jobs go thru accelerated aging becoming dull and rusty years sooner than expected. My lungs are impaired and have been since the 1980's so be careful and get an activated charcoal respirator for a few dollars.

  • @AguaFluorida
    @AguaFluorida 4 года назад +50

    2:58 "If this was a fire, I'd be dead right now."
    That might beat dying from CCl4 poisoning :D
    Happy equinox!

  • @pbdye1607
    @pbdye1607 4 года назад +64

    "In my other videos, I lament about the lack of a strong ozone layer above Australia. Well, today we're gonna make that hole just a lil' bit bigger...because reasons."

  • @Max-cv7rx
    @Max-cv7rx 4 года назад +11

    The only problem I have with this channel is that you don’t have enough subscribers. Your content is incredibly entertaining for an aspiring chemist (I’m still in school) and still basic enough for me to understand which is great. I hope you blow up man! Just don’t let it be because of any of your Explosions&Fire2 experiments!

  • @lithum1938
    @lithum1938 4 года назад +4

    I believe you requested comments regarding uses for this handy solvent, but I found few in the 847 comments I read.
    Some electronic equipment is "potted" in epoxy resin for weather protection, vibration proofing etc., and sometimes
    simple or crude circuits are hidden in epoxy to hide junk 'ripoffs'. Some of us just need to know what's inside and/or
    need/want to repair equipment to save on the expensive replacement of mysterious modules. How I've done this :-
    Place your epoxy-potted module etc. together with solvent in a suitable closed vessel and wait.
    Maybe get yourself a Vili's goulash pie and a Cooper's Pale Ale or three to help pass the hours to days
    while the poxy potting epoxy expands and becomes a soft jelly which is easily removed (as it's not 'sticky').
    Warmer temps will speed the process. If you are keen the jelly after removal can be warmed to liberate (much of)
    the solvent to be then condensed and reused.
    NOTE: Some electronic components can be damaged (esp. electrolytic caps you were replacing with TKRs/EXRs anyway !)
    Painted colour codes on some resistors can come off, but you could record the values as you remove the jellypoxy using the
    vigorous rubbing motion which comes naturally. Minor components cost mere cents and your circuitry will be essentially renewed.
    This particular solvent works very well on many 'hard/glassy' potting resins but results will vary . I can't promise
    success and you might have to try other nasty/toxic/banned solvents from that collection under your bed.
    Some are likely to shout me down about the use of this solvent and/or reveal a better method of epoxy removal. Go for it..
    (This was my first ever 'RUclips comment', I hope I did it correctly and that you get to read it.)
    Cheers fellow thinkers,
    Li - not his real name - SA local, nice old grey bastard.

  • @szymsonthatmemeguy3181
    @szymsonthatmemeguy3181 2 года назад +20

    I had no idea the restrictions on it were so strict. I'm a high school student and last year we were working in a lab with some halogens and their salts, and we used carbon-tet as a solvent. Guess they had a lot of faith in us

    • @michealpersicko9531
      @michealpersicko9531 10 месяцев назад +1

      its Australia are you surprised? It might even be illegal to fart in someplaces in Australia without the proper license.

  • @johnholland67
    @johnholland67 4 года назад +15

    "It's still a date" while not caring about the date anymore made me a subscriber you sir are serious about your obsessions

  • @jasonnugent963
    @jasonnugent963 Год назад +4

    Discovered your channel lately. Entertaining. The further I go back into older videos, the more I’m stunned you are still alive.

  • @locouk
    @locouk 4 года назад +7

    We used to use the stuff for cleaning upholstery if I remember correctly, those fire extinguishers used to be common place in the auto jumble section of steam rally’s back in the 1980’s.

  • @GodlikeIridium
    @GodlikeIridium 4 года назад +6

    CCl4 is my favorite solvent for synthesis because you can take a sample of the reaction and directly do a proton NMR without evaporation and redissolving in a deuterated solvent.

  • @mothman1654
    @mothman1654 4 года назад +33

    Sciencemadness rank: International hazard.

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 4 года назад +11

    watching you roll a brass cylinder around a concrete floor hurt my soul

  • @Tarred_and_feathered
    @Tarred_and_feathered 4 года назад +16

    I’d like to see it react with Ozone. I’m not sure if you can do that on a scale that would be very interesting but a lesson on how these kind of solvents hurt the ozone layer with a real example would sure be swell.

  • @savagegaming5476
    @savagegaming5476 4 года назад +7

    I just wanted to say, I think you're videos are hilarious, and watching your videos keeps me from experimenting myself, and putting myself in a risky situation, and I wanted to say thanks for the all the chemistry, even though I dont understand everything your doing.

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 4 года назад +4

    I remember that stuff from the nineteen fifties. All the vans my father would work on had a brass fire extinguisher that should have been filled with carbon tetrachloride (most were empty). The smell was very distinctive, not unpleasant. Even in those anything goes days you were warned not to smoke while inhaling the vapour because it turned to phosgene (a poison gas) when heated. My father would tip an eggcup's worth into an empty leaky motorcycle petrol tank and slosh it around before gas welding the leaking seams. He never had one explode and he lived into his nineties with no liver problems but his heart gave out eventually. Back in the day it was a common solvent, good for degreasing but eventually it was replaced by freon for degreasing stuff and cleaning circuit boards but the discovery of the hole in the ozone layer has curtailed that chemical's use too.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing! Yeah the smell is hard to describe but it is distinctive for sure. Never had used carbon tet before, but I knew for sure that's what I had when I finally got it out, nothing else is quite like it

  • @tractorguy97
    @tractorguy97 Год назад +2

    It's just 12 minutes of Tom somehow refraining from saying "fuck, i love the 60's" 😂😂

  • @colinmartin9797
    @colinmartin9797 4 года назад +6

    This was weirdly well timed, I literally just had to read the MSDS for CCL4 like five minutes ago for my first OChem lab

    • @colinmartin9797
      @colinmartin9797 4 года назад +2

      I'd be curious to see a match passed over the vapors to see if the vapors can starve the flame

  • @cezarcatalin1406
    @cezarcatalin1406 4 года назад +42

    Mix it with SO3
    SO3 + CCl4 => SCl2O2 + COCl2 !!
    Spicy and dangerous !

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  4 года назад +30

      That's real spicey

    • @MyLonewolf25
      @MyLonewolf25 4 года назад +5

      ᏰĪᏝᏝ ՇÎρɧᏋƦ for the stupid
      Pls explain the spicy

    • @Odin1465
      @Odin1465 4 года назад +20

      COCl2 is called phosgene, which is extremely toxic and generally despised by the chemistry community for that. But, it is a really handy chemical with very useful reactivity, either way you pretty much cant get hold of it, even in germany where CCl4 is not hard to get.
      I also vote for that reaction ;) useful chemical for the future.

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 4 года назад +4

      MyLonewolf25
      You get a sulfuric chlorination agent and phosgene... everything is spicy and dangerous about this reaction !

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 4 года назад +6

      @@Odin1465 Mmm, smells like the freshly cut grass you're about to find yourself under in the cemetery.

  • @KeeganAWhite
    @KeeganAWhite Год назад +2

    This video really triggered my "let me open that jar for you" instinct.

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc Год назад +3

    Just remembered the consumer could buy carbon tet from the local chemist. Called "Dab-It-Off" brilliant stuff in a little glass jar with an attached sponge under the lid. Then they changed it to "new improved formula" which was rubbish.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Год назад +1

      Was the "new improved formula" just a completely different substance all together? And what exactly did it "dab off"?

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Год назад +2

      @@RiffRaffMama. DabItOff was a grease dirt spot remover. Probably since the 1930s buy from chemist /pharmacy. It was in a small round glass jar about 2" diameter with a metal screw top that when removed exposed a rubber sponge wet by the contents. It was very effective for removing oil spots. Around the time it became also available in self service supermarkets the formulation changed. I suspect it changed to isopropyl alcohol. I tried it was no good and then threw it away.

  • @brencrun5068
    @brencrun5068 4 года назад +4

    Many, many, years ago (early 1960's?) I actually tried using one of those extinguishers. As the man says, turn plunger hard left, pull back plunger and it then works as a pump.

  • @terawattyear
    @terawattyear 4 года назад +4

    It’s always so satisfying to acquire or make something you’re not supposed to have. This was a good find. Harder to find good stuff reasonably priced at thrift shops now with eBay around.

    • @cmoore8658
      @cmoore8658 2 года назад

      Agreed!!- There was an antique fire extinguisher for over a hundred when a roughly equal one was sitting there for ~65!- The only real difference was a hose, as far as I could see-

  • @bromisovalum8417
    @bromisovalum8417 3 года назад +4

    "Tetra" used to be everywhere in the 80s, a very common degreasing agent, until it was replaced by trichloroethylene, and later that got replaced too, usually nowadays by butyl acetates or the like.

    • @petedepledge3359
      @petedepledge3359 3 года назад +1

      Early 90's i worked for a company that had some defence contracts. Carbon tet? Sure. Is 10,000 litres enough?

  • @ex-dk3cj
    @ex-dk3cj 4 года назад +3

    love the videos- keep up the good work. would like to see you attempt toluene from benzoic acid via decarboxylation of benzoic acid to phenol, dehydroxylation of phenol to benzene, and methylation of benzene to toluene

  • @dankhill6851
    @dankhill6851 3 года назад +3

    You should generate some ozone, and then try to destroy it with cabon tet, to see how efficiently it destroys the ozone layer, I think that'd be really interesting.

  • @Rhodanide
    @Rhodanide 4 года назад +40

    It's happening, boys

  • @SupaDanteX
    @SupaDanteX 4 года назад +8

    3 minutes of opening a container.
    This is the quality content I subscribed for :D

  • @NuculearFallout1
    @NuculearFallout1 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos mate. Thanks for producing enjoyable content 👌🏻

  • @deathkeys1
    @deathkeys1 4 года назад +81

    if he never uploads again, we'll know why.
    press F for respects.

    • @deathkeys1
      @deathkeys1 4 года назад +2

      @Evi1M4chine the joke is on you, I never played the game nor did I ever own a console, but the meme rubbed of on me.

    • @justsmallstuff4994
      @justsmallstuff4994 4 года назад

      F

    • @burajirujinn
      @burajirujinn 4 года назад

      Don't even know which game it came from and only saw a random screenshot of the moment, but...
      F

    • @adamlifevictor5772
      @adamlifevictor5772 3 года назад

      F

  • @RaExpIn
    @RaExpIn 4 года назад +24

    I was scared that the cylinder might be pressurized. Not because it has to be, but due to decomposition. I didn't know that CCl4 ist stable in comparison to Chloroform, that slowly turns into Phosgene and HCl. Or possibly additives that might be as bad. Pretty interesting!

    • @alexredacted2123
      @alexredacted2123 4 года назад

      Chloroform needs light and O2 to turn into war gas, ya dingus!

    • @RaExpIn
      @RaExpIn 4 года назад +7

      @@alexredacted2123 I wouldn't rely on that, when opening a canister made of metal, containing a halogenated compound, which is about 60 years old. I also wouldn't rely on it it being completely air tight. And I'm pretty sure the reaction would take place without light, when time is long enough and oxygen might slowly enter the canister. It will become very slow, but what is slow considering such an amount of time? Thinking about the possibility that opening the canister might be the last thing I do, I'd choose to be better safe than sor..., uhm dead... I don't want to be THAT guy, but stay safe guys! And to be honest I would have opened the canister, too. :D

    • @ExplosionsAndFire
      @ExplosionsAndFire 4 года назад +2

      @@RaExpIn That's an interesting thought. A lot can happen over 60 years for a chemical to just sit there! I hope there wasn't any phosgene

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Год назад

      They used them in WW2 bombers then sold as war surplus for personal cars

  • @Ke3per88
    @Ke3per88 Год назад +1

    Have just found a full one of these at my mums house. Weights a ton can feel it sloshing around inside.

  • @PvPbomber009
    @PvPbomber009 4 года назад +13

    Your videos are both interesting and freaking hilarious, love it.

  • @StreuB1
    @StreuB1 4 года назад +23

    I firmly believe that if things are meant to happen, they will happen. Congrats on the find, congrats on not giving up and congrats on it actually being legit!!! Make sure you keep this stuff safe and in a box with padding so it doesn't get broken by accident. I will say, the excitement in your voice and how supportive Georgia is makes this channel and what you do so addicting. Great stuff!!!!

  • @mealex303
    @mealex303 4 года назад +13

    Add a molecular seeves and get rest out of tube b4 its gone then mix in some mayonnaise and make the worlds first explosive salad dressing 😂

  • @hueyhueyhueyhuey
    @hueyhueyhueyhuey Год назад +1

    super new to your channel. love the content and enjoying the aphex twin!

  • @quint3ssent1a
    @quint3ssent1a 4 года назад +3

    this fire extinguisher looks so dope. Brass vessel and handle, it's like a prop from steampunk movie.

  • @NietMartijnvt
    @NietMartijnvt 4 года назад +15

    This stuff is so entertaining. As a chemistry student i love watching your stuff. Cheers from the Netherlands dude!

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 4 года назад +2

      See this is what made yt great some1 from the Netherlands watching some1 in south Australia because of an interest in chemistry. Cool when you think about it.

    • @guitrz000
      @guitrz000 4 года назад

      Hello from Brazil.

  • @DrPersonman
    @DrPersonman 4 года назад +2

    You might get one of those impact screw drivers if you end up trying to open another one. Its just beefy screw driver that you hit the back of with a hammer and it turns slightly. They only cost 10-20usd and they are really handy when you run into things like that, as long as you have a vice or something to hold the cylinder anyway.

  • @BT-uq3qw
    @BT-uq3qw 4 года назад +1

    Two years of dedication to bring us a brief video of entertainment and education. Respect to you!

  • @gsuberland
    @gsuberland 4 года назад +11

    That roundbottom flask is a fire grenade!

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb 4 года назад +1

      Graham Sutherland I had forgotten about seeing those somewhere - what a crazy real thing!

  • @Christer2222
    @Christer2222 4 года назад +19

    Didn't CodysLab also get a hold of some Carbon Tet? Pretty cool that you got a hold of something like this

    • @wyattsheffield6130
      @wyattsheffield6130 4 года назад +21

      I think it was Halon that Cody found

    • @peterirvin7121
      @peterirvin7121 4 года назад

      @@wyattsheffield6130 Yup. Completely different compound than carbon tet

    • @kesslerfox9858
      @kesslerfox9858 4 года назад +15

      Carbon tetrachloride is Halon 104
      Cody had Halon 1211

    • @wyattsheffield6130
      @wyattsheffield6130 4 года назад

      @@kesslerfox9858 good clarification!!

    • @PapaWheelie1
      @PapaWheelie1 4 года назад +1

      I have an extinguisher full of halon - hanging out in my garage

  • @z987k
    @z987k 2 года назад +1

    You can get extinguishers full of CCl4 online. They look kind of like a soda/beer can. The common brand name was a Hero Fire Extinguisher.

  • @foxtailedcritter
    @foxtailedcritter Год назад +1

    Wow VERY INTERESTING to see a fellow Aussie into Chemistry on here. Didn't expect that. I never finished highschool but after years of messing about and learning from youtubers it's a BRILLIANT hobby/skill/way of life.
    But yeah surpied at a fellow Aussie.
    I usually see yanks all the time like NileRed doing Chemistry instead. That's pretty awesome. Subscribed

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Год назад

      His video titled "let's set fire to some metals and put it out" or something popped up in my recommendations a few days ago and I though that sounded like fun, but as soon as he spoke and I realised he was Aussie as well I legit said to my husband "oh this just got awesome" because no one does sketchy shit like we do. Straya.

  • @damonjenkins2185
    @damonjenkins2185 3 года назад +3

    I remember when I let a halon fire extinguisher off for fun before I knew what it was, in 2015. I now don’t know how to obtain any more halon

  • @spider0804
    @spider0804 4 года назад +17

    It is banned in austrailia.
    Ah, so like everything else then!

  • @Nick52400
    @Nick52400 4 года назад

    I have one of these extinguishers and was wondering what to do with it so i could restore it and now i know! thank you~

  • @matthiasjagdm3949
    @matthiasjagdm3949 4 года назад +1

    May i ask What geiger counter, do you use? I would love to know , since i am a prop and scenery maker
    ..i often use old stuff and would love to know if it is radioactive...

  • @todanceonbrokenglass
    @todanceonbrokenglass 4 года назад +7

    I did some research on similar chemicals, turns out it’s plausible to make phosgene gas out of carbon tetrachloride.

  • @ShadowsLetsPlays37
    @ShadowsLetsPlays37 4 года назад +5

    Maybe you could use some of it to demonstrate the reaction of sodium with it? I've heard it's a terrible idea to mix the two but couldn't find any good videos on it.

  • @AlwaysBastos
    @AlwaysBastos 7 месяцев назад

    We used to clean electrical equipment with it in the 60's and '70s. Very good stuff.

  • @NoahGooder
    @NoahGooder Год назад +1

    I never thought I would be entertained by watching a grown ass man struggle to open a fire extinguisher from the 1960s

  • @Element4711
    @Element4711 4 года назад +35

    My dude. AIM AWAY FROM FACE. Please. Idk why I thought it was going to be a pressurised container but probably should have been treated as one.
    Stay safe and keep up the good work mate.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 4 года назад +11

      This is one thing that I learned from AvE. Do not fuck about with pressure vessels, even when you think they're not holding pressure.
      And he's mainly just talking compressed air or LPG, let alone a potential bomb full of a horribly toxic halon.
      I guess in this instance the risk was pretty low though. :)

    • @laharl2k
      @laharl2k 4 года назад +1

      Why would you use brass for a pressurized container? Brass cant hold pressure for shit, thats why we use steel.

    • @insanelyme938
      @insanelyme938 4 года назад +12

      @@laharl2k the 60s man...

    • @Kubla84
      @Kubla84 4 года назад +1

      not pressurized, you pumped it to squirt it out

    • @DamienDarksideBlog
      @DamienDarksideBlog 4 года назад +2

      Yo, I'm Canadian and my proximity to America has drilled it into me that even if it isn't a gun, always point away from your face or others. Sure it wasn't a pressurized container... originally. Any container can become pressurized with the right reaction and enough time. Especially with temperature changes from seasons and storage.
      Just like you treat an unloaded firearm like a loaded firearm, you should treat non-pressurized nozzles the same as any pressurized nozzle.

  • @anchorbait6662
    @anchorbait6662 4 года назад +7

    "if there was a fire I would be dead right now." haha

  • @jiribrabec2100
    @jiribrabec2100 Год назад +1

    1:15 very nice safety squints my guy

  • @jordanwilliams5849
    @jordanwilliams5849 2 года назад +1

    OK... I had to stop at 3:30 because: A: I was on the edge of my seat waiting for that to spray you in the face followed by me looking for the follow up video, and B: wondering if it is kept in some sort of porous material like acetylene? I shall hit play to find out. SUBSCRIBED!

  • @willynebula6193
    @willynebula6193 4 года назад +13

    Some advice
    You need
    A bench vice 😉

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 4 года назад +2

      Oh and spend 20 bucks and buy yourself a Stanley screwdriver set with the clear green and yellow handles, thank me later

    • @ExplosionsAndFire
      @ExplosionsAndFire 4 года назад +1

      I do have a bench vice elsewhere in the shed! I did put it in there too, still couldn't get the screw out. :(

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 4 года назад +2

      Sounds like you just needed a little squirt of magic in a can(wd40). Which gives me an idea for a video, try working out the contents of wd40 then check your results against the msds. I think a lot of people will be interested. Thoughts?

  • @danielgrantcoleman
    @danielgrantcoleman 4 года назад +11

    Now you just need some triphynelphosphine. Make some alkyl chlorides. 👍

  • @danwinter20
    @danwinter20 9 месяцев назад

    I was just at a flea market in Connecticut and saw two carbon tet extinguishers (with labels on) that were completely full of liquid

  • @matthewphillips9083
    @matthewphillips9083 Год назад

    Just seen a full one of these at salvage store in the adelaide hills if you're interested! Was a 'Pyrene' brand, they also had a halon detector there which was random

  • @matthewduke4233
    @matthewduke4233 4 года назад +4

    Hey! I have been a long time chem fan, and I just started college to become a chemistry major. Im wondering if I will learn enough to be where you are or if you spent way more time personally pursuing this hobby or what.

    • @WarMarsM
      @WarMarsM 7 месяцев назад

      How'd the degree go?

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 4 года назад +9

    I seem to remember carbon tet as a general solvent handy for cleaning around the home. Am I mistaken?
    Also, is it related to trichloromethane? I met a girl in 1980 who had a hamster called "trike". I asked where his name came from & she moistened her scarf from a little bottle & said "Inhale through this, I'll hold you close while you breathe in once, deeply."
    I didn't, but on looking at the bottle the hamster's name was a shortened version of "trichloromethane".
    Is that in the same group of chlorinated solvents?

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley 4 года назад

      Yeah halocarbons are a fun bunch.

    • @chromecrescent
      @chromecrescent 4 года назад +1

      I think trichloroethene is a common house cleaning agent, not carbon tetrachloride

    • @SerumCRM114
      @SerumCRM114 4 года назад +1

      Yep, trichloromethane is also known as chloroform. Both where often abbreviated as Tri or Tetra.

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley 4 года назад +1

      @@chromecrescent yes, TCE is still a widely available degreaser, but it is very not human friendly.

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 4 года назад

      @@SerumCRM114 Thank you! That explains a *whole* lot! 😋

  • @nicholasmcintyre4166
    @nicholasmcintyre4166 4 года назад +2

    Watching you play with dangerous chemicals is making me subconsciously avoid touching my face and is giving me a urge to wash my hands😅

  • @SgtMantis
    @SgtMantis 4 года назад +1

    Dude. Please. What Geiger counter was that and what types of radiation does it detect? I've been looking to obtain a handheld model that is fairly full spectrum.

  • @shottysteve
    @shottysteve 2 года назад +15

    at 5:00 when it says carbon tetrachloride, i felt that

  • @blubb7711
    @blubb7711 4 года назад +24

    Methane, Chlorine and some UV light would do the trick....
    Engage safety squints!

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 4 года назад +7

      Overengineering
      Even better:
      Chloroform, Chlorine and some UV

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb 4 года назад +2

      Raises hand - Methane, Chlorine, and overhead fluorescent lights work too!

  • @artusicam3
    @artusicam3 4 года назад

    Great vids man new sub earned!

  • @jawspwnsu
    @jawspwnsu Год назад

    I have one question, where did you get your CT007F from? It's only listed as sold by retailers on the site and the ones I found online are sold out :(

  • @SuperSqwiggy
    @SuperSqwiggy 4 года назад +4

    It's still a date... now I'm off for a toastie and a distillation, bye

  • @firehoax9230
    @firehoax9230 4 года назад +4

    Mix with NaN3

  • @LASERFACE_G
    @LASERFACE_G Год назад

    Seriously great choice of music

  • @tonyhenley8284
    @tonyhenley8284 4 года назад +1

    FYI carbon tetrachloride can still be found in old fire extinguisher grenades. Usually between $25.00 and $80.00. There are still quite a few around.

  • @gordonlawrence4749
    @gordonlawrence4749 4 года назад +10

    Just do something interesting with a little bit of it as long as it's not "Yellow Chemistry". LMAO