Small detail… I love the way the senior executive stares at him blank faced until the second he sticks out his hand for a congratulatory handshake. Nice direction by Benton.
This was really NOT a hard decision for those two men. Of COURSE they wanted to hire him. They knew he could do the job (and do it well), the work needed to get done, and he was willing to take a pay cut. Of COURSE hire him immediately before he goes, elsewhere. It was a no brainer even if the way it was handled was unorthodox and unprofessional on Kramer's part.
@@paulcolburn3855 I gave a thumbs up, but in reality, in most cases they would ask him why he left his previous employment. It's kind of an oversight in the film, but at the same time, it makes sense that if they were in a kindly holiday mood, they on some level could have chosen to give him the benefit of the doubt (as I wish more employers would in such cases; often, their go-to approach is to grill an applicant and force them to explain, show why they should be given a chance, especially if it's obvious they've become unemployed for some unstated reason). The scene is, in fact, more subtly wonderful in this sense: you can see how otherwise hard-nosed executives (the one called in from the celebration at first says, rather gruffly, "okay, you've got ten minutes" as if annoyed from being dragged away from the party) are warmed by the holiday spirit. If that hadn't been a factor, the job application could easily have gone the other way. They obviously preferred giving a desperate guy a job during the holiday to sending him home devastated. When you think about it, the gruff guy was about to go on vacation: could a normal person enjoy that vacation after ruining another person's holiday? Or reading in the paper his interview, rather than taking the elevator, jumped off the roof after being rejected? I think you're right it was a no-brainer decision, but vastly more so because of the holiday context.
I’ve noticed Dustin Hoffman is at his best when he’s doing scenes where he’s agitated. He really sells the struggle of the character he’s playing to the audience.
@@sqsp Yes, I’ve seen Chef, which is one of my favorite movies to watch. Dustin Hoffman has a small part to play in that movie, but he makes the conflict Jon Favreau is up against in having a boss that isn’t listening to what he’s capable of doing and only wants him to cook what’s on the menu in the restaurant he owns believable.
That “one time offer” was the only line I remember after seeing this movie over forty years ago. I have always wanted to use it during job interviews, but just couldn’t. Thank you for posting it.
Great movie. For those who haven't seen it yet or don't remember, his divorce attorney said that if he didn't have a job there would be no chance he would get custody of his son.
A true gentleman, and a real man, he did not play the victim card. He didn’t involve his divorce or his personal problems. He did not say anything to anyone.
You’ve just said what I posted on here a while ago, myself! I went through the same thing, but it didn’t stop me! I did what it took to hold on. Then I got hired into the civil service. A safety net!
You forgot to mention drugs, quickie office sex, dangerous dares, and embarrassing-border-line illegal sexual misconduct. It's truly amazing to think just how "politically incorrect" MOST of those parties were ....for several decades.
I like how he's left out in the party to wait uncomfortably to see if he got the job. How many of us have felt that way in just ordinary social situations.
The two guys that were the bosses had a hard exterior but you could tell at the end they were really kind and genuine people and were willing to help another person in need wish more execs were like those two.
Never say, "I need a job" during an interview. Of course you need thw work or you wouldn't be applying. You're trying to sell them on the idea that they need you, not the other way around.
@BigBri550 , That may be true but in this case, Ted Kramer was desperate for a job right away so he was thinking what he had to say right then and there. It would have been different if he had been employed right then and wanted to change jobs.
I saw this movie in high school when it first came out and it was depressing, I remember thinking I'm never gonna make it as an adult. Boy, was I right.
That acting was brilliant by Dustin Hoffman. He was determined to get a job in 24 hours, from putting pressure on the unemployed agent to being firm with the bosses at his interview. It goes to show that sometimes you need act tough to get what you want. I think the bosses were giving Ted a secret test of character to see if he was worth joining & his determination proved that.
It's a freakin movie! This wouldn't happen in a million years. Not that it couldn't, mind you. But this is a movie and it makes for entertaining drama.
@ralphmacchiato3761 It happened to Steve Jobs, who as a kid had the guts to find the head of Hewlett- Packard in the phone book and land a job that way with the firm. He even got some free HP parts.
Even though he’s a white-collar professional, he still has bills to pay, just like everybody else. Not all of them have thousands in savings. He took it on like a boss to get the job and didn’t schmooze or beat around the bush, he got it done! And it’d look bad on him if he was collecting unemployment while fighting for custody of his son.
@@moreme40 The movie is ruined by the fact that it is never mentioned whether Joanna payed alimony for her son after she left him and her husband. It is only mentioned that she even took money from their savings when she left....
"If you could just look in your card catalogue... I'll take anything." "Wellll, They're auditioning for male strippers down at the Ramrod Club.." "Ok..I'll take ALMOST anything..."
Notice how he's sitting among all those people right in the middle of that office Christmas party and he's the only one who's not in the mood for it at all. If you've ever been through the crap his character went through you'll understand...I know I do. When your parental rights as a father hang in the balance, your life is no carnival. The way Hoffman played the part clearly revealed the struggle of it all. He was brilliant.
MANAGER : "Mr Kramer, could we talk privately for a moment ?" KRAMER : "Sure >TO EXEC< Would you mind waiting outside ?" MANAGER : "No I meant could me and HIM talk privately..."
What you don't see here is his DEEP fear of going before the custody judge, after the holiday, still unemployed. This is why he's so desperate. What really seals it is his insistence for an immediate hire or denial. It shows his employers confidence and also makes them think if they don't hire him now they'll regret it later.. Brilliant.
@@fredflintstone2234 No, it shows he has balls. Higher ups are used to having their butts kissed and their orders obeyed without question. A guy like Kramer makes them look twice and realize he is something special. Heck, he may even be cut from the same cloth!
A great movie will always walk the delicate line between FICTION/FANTASY and REALITY. This scene is well-filmed and acted. Kudos to all involved. Is this a slice of reality? NO.
Very memorable scene. Exquisitely written and acted. One problem - that would NEVER happen in real life. Getting a same day interview the Friday before Christmas? No way.
I think it can happen. That’s not too much problem. I don’t believe someone gets a job or a right way answer once they tell you “ let me think about it”
The way he crosses out the ad while walking in the first scene is a bit cheesy, but the way that he suddenly and aggressively hands to phone to the employment agency guy is very good.
I want to think that something unspoken was apparent to the two gentlemen, something that said it is the right thing to do to hire Dustin. Maybe because of Christmas, maybe a slight hint of desperation in his voice, whatever. And yes, saving a little $ didn't hurt, either!!
@@kaitiscarlett9022 All the above....plus being a real go-getter who didn't shy away when told him they'll think about it etc...most people would've gave in, but he didn't cave. If only majority of the job seekers in the real world would show this kind of confidence when faced with desperation, they'd get hired on the spot also!
Probably not, when they could get that level of talent on the cheap. He'd probably be off the board and handling major accounts within 18 months. Plus having talent like that, land in your lap, from a major competitor was a coup. The thing IS though, he doesn't get that answer, unless he has the goods.
Here's a tip on divorce ex wives and lawyers! Stand up to a bullying ex who uses the kids to hurt you. Walk away from lawyers and family courts and let the step dad do all the work !!
What he accepted would be the equivalent of a $21k annual pay cut today. It's not unprecedented, he should easily be able to prove his worth within a year or two at most, and get himself back up to his previous salary.
@monkeyb1820 in the novelization of the movie, if I recall, he took the new job for $24.5k. Which is about $103k in today's money. So yes, 20% is about right.
Smoking, drinking, physical contact, laughing, dancing…. Boy this office parties days are long gone. Today everything is PC, offensive, sexual harassment, DEI …
It wouldn't work then; he'd be seen as way too desperate and difficult, and they would certainly ask about his previous employment, why he left, and why he's be so eager to take a lower paying job. And unfortunately, there really is no right answer for that.
@@ericnelson9100 I agree. "Why did you leave your last job?" "I was fired." So here's your chance to get quality work for a bargain price, but it's a one-time offer, because I'm desperate. By the way, I'll leave as soon as a better offer comes along. I never listen to anyone who says "One time offer".... salesman, company, employer, etc...at least not without some research/vetting. To me that's a red flag.
honestly, this is how people got their foot in the door in the mid-70s 80s, and early 90s, it's not "what you know" but who you know and how-to-ask-for-it. Bullet points are in the pudding bub.
That’s a man pulling himself up by his bootstraps! He lost his advertising job, but didn’t feel sorry for himself and got a new job less than a few days, even though it was a salary cut. He was willing to do whatever it took to support his son, and show the court he had a job. He had a newspaper and employment agency help him, nothing else! No networking, he did it on his own like a boss and went alpha on the bosses demanding the job!
As a 60 year old seriously under employed highly qualified man who has tried everything I can tell you this is as Hollywood as it gets. If only it were THIS easy.
How true this explanation is I don’t know, but I’ve heard it was because The Deer Hunter had literally just won Best Picture, and they thought that the country needed a break from being reminded of the horrors of Vietnam.
@@patrickc3419 If true, then it's the worst possible reason of all. Because (1) they based their decision on something other than the merits of the film itself (which is the ostensible purpose of the awards in the first place) and (2) it's highly-presumptuous of them to decide unilaterally whether the country as a whole "needs a break" from _any_ one type of movie. Speaking personally, I could use a break from all the dumb comicbook superhero films we've been bombarded with the last 10 years for example, but I wouldn't presume to try to dictate that preference onto the rest of the country.
1979's NYC was beautiful, both here and in Woody Allen's "Manhattan". I know it was a dangerous place back then, but I miss the old huge American cars, the fashion, music, the twin towers...😢
@jonathanbirch2022 Who used illegal measures to throw elderly people out of rent controlled apartments, but unfortunately was only reported on by small newspapers like The Village Voice. There was such an article from 1979 where he tried to claim that an 80 year old woman had not paid her rent while in the hospital; she had receipts to back up her claim but still had to go to court to fight that evil bastard.
It was also very dirty, as pollution was a huge problem. Not just that, but litter, people not cleaning up after their dogs; there was also a very big real estate crash from 1975 to 1980, as fewer and fewer people wanted to live there. As far as the Twin Towers, that was a huge eyesore on the skyline, just a bland ugly sight; the tragedy of 9/11 doesn't change any of that.
I've never seen this movie, but remember that it's about a couple getting divorced. After seeing what a jerk Dustin Hoffman's character is in this 1 clip, it's no surprise his wife wants a divorce.
She leaves him and their young son and then decides she wants custody. He loses his previous job because he's trying to raise his son alone. He needs another job fast or he risks losing custody of his son. Hence his pushiness.
Watch the movie. He’s not being a jerk. This is a father fighting for his son. Some things are worth putting it all on the line for. As a father, your son is definitely one of those things.
@@joemoore9248 It was a joke. He goes to great lengths and shows tremendous determination to get a job and then does something that could get him the sack nowadays.
@@joemoore9248 Oh, FFS... I'm putting it in the context of what would happen today. It was a joke. You are hard work. Something tells me you're on the spectrum...
And when he was taller, he did not have kid son who knew how to make breakfast better than him. And of course he did not have fancy well paid job and he was quite against marriage and family in general.
Well JT, we have absolutely no other candidates for this job and it’s Christmas, what do u think? Let’s let him sweat and second hand smoke for 15 minutes.
Small detail… I love the way the senior executive stares at him blank faced until the second he sticks out his hand for a congratulatory handshake. Nice direction by Benton.
This was really NOT a hard decision for those two men. Of COURSE they wanted to hire him. They knew he could do the job (and do it well), the work needed to get done, and he was willing to take a pay cut. Of COURSE hire him immediately before he goes, elsewhere. It was a no brainer even if the way it was handled was unorthodox and unprofessional on Kramer's part.
@@paulcolburn3855 I gave a thumbs up, but in reality, in most cases they would ask him why he left his previous employment. It's kind of an oversight in the film, but at the same time, it makes sense that if they were in a kindly holiday mood, they on some level could have chosen to give him the benefit of the doubt (as I wish more employers would in such cases; often, their go-to approach is to grill an applicant and force them to explain, show why they should be given a chance, especially if it's obvious they've become unemployed for some unstated reason). The scene is, in fact, more subtly wonderful in this sense: you can see how otherwise hard-nosed executives (the one called in from the celebration at first says, rather gruffly, "okay, you've got ten minutes" as if annoyed from being dragged away from the party) are warmed by the holiday spirit. If that hadn't been a factor, the job application could easily have gone the other way. They obviously preferred giving a desperate guy a job during the holiday to sending him home devastated. When you think about it, the gruff guy was about to go on vacation: could a normal person enjoy that vacation after ruining another person's holiday? Or reading in the paper his interview, rather than taking the elevator, jumped off the roof after being rejected? I think you're right it was a no-brainer decision, but vastly more so because of the holiday context.
The subtle detail of him leaving his portfolio on the desk so he would get back in.
I noticed that as well. He wanted a path back in.
@@keithm9337or the opportunity for them to review his work again
yup, glad you noticed it
good eye.
They could have given him his bag back and told him to fuck off
I’ve noticed Dustin Hoffman is at his best when he’s doing scenes where he’s agitated. He really sells the struggle of the character he’s playing to the audience.
100%. If you've yet to see it, his performance in the movie Chef was incredible, in my opinion.
@@sqsp Yes, I’ve seen Chef, which is one of my favorite movies to watch. Dustin Hoffman has a small part to play in that movie, but he makes the conflict Jon Favreau is up against in having a boss that isn’t listening to what he’s capable of doing and only wants him to cook what’s on the menu in the restaurant he owns believable.
Straight time would be another good example
Yes, yes, the overplayed neurotic Jewish guy.
Tootsie... 😅
That “one time offer” was the only line I remember after seeing this movie over forty years ago. I have always wanted to use it during job interviews, but just couldn’t. Thank you for posting it.
I immediately thought of the job interview scene in Trainspotting
I always wished I had those cojones to do an interview like that
I would be suspect of someone that pushy, who offered no explation as to why he was so pushy.
@@keithm9337 - He could only pull that off because his work was top of the line.
@@johnnyohanian4237 that’s why this is a movie
Great movie. For those who haven't seen it yet or don't remember, his divorce attorney said that if he didn't have a job there would be no chance he would get custody of his son.
A true gentleman, and a real man, he did not play the victim card. He didn’t involve his divorce or his personal problems. He did not say anything to anyone.
A very wise man.
You’ve just said what I posted on here a while ago, myself! I went through the same thing, but it didn’t stop me! I did what it took to hold on. Then I got hired into the civil service. A safety net!
I like the continuity detail with the clock in the foreground.
Wow I never noticed that detail but that's genius the representation of time running out for him...
Yes me too
Now thats a man willing to grab the entire world by the throat for his son.
Prefer much more a father who would grab the world by its balls for his son
Women trying to steal their kids from fathers for a very long time
I was thinking the same thing. That's the irrepressable force driving him. Well said.
Cigarettes, alcohol, physical contact flirting... office parties were off the chain back in the 70s.
They were like that in the '90s too, sans the smoking but otherwise. '80s office parties also had the smoking but less so
You forgot cocaine for those in the loop.
You forgot to mention drugs, quickie office sex, dangerous dares, and embarrassing-border-line illegal sexual misconduct. It's truly amazing to think just how "politically incorrect" MOST of those parties were ....for several decades.
So what it was great times
is that all you can say about this clip? good lord, what a waste on you.
Saw this movie when it came out and I was 18 years old. Many scenes made me cry. Divorce is HARD.
Just watched this again recently after seeing it in the theater all those years ago. It certainly has stood the test of time..great movie!
I like how he's left out in the party to wait uncomfortably to see if he got the job. How many of us have felt that way in just ordinary social situations.
Today, it's landing the interview and with an actual human.
The two guys that were the bosses had a hard exterior but you could tell at the end they were really kind and genuine people and were willing to help another person in need wish more execs were like those two.
are you serious or being sarcastic because in my view the execs were heartless bastards who saw a great money saving opportunity by hiring him
@@johnwest194 But he came to them.
Never say, "I need a job" during an interview. Of course you need thw work or you wouldn't be applying. You're trying to sell them on the idea that they need you, not the other way around.
Interesting. I did not see it that way. I thought they were taking advantage of another person in need.
@BigBri550 , That may be true but in this case, Ted Kramer was desperate for a job right away so he was thinking what he had to say right then and there. It would have been different if he had been employed right then and wanted to change jobs.
Now, I'd like to talk about a raise.
😁
Lol
I really like the shot at 3:34 where he sits there all serious waiting for the decision, amidst all the party goers
Longest 30 seconds of his life...
When you ask for the sale, the first one who speaks loses.
It's always weird walking in to apply for a job, looking around at all the strangers who might soon be your co-workers.
Hoffman is telling you how happy they are and hiding his sadness at he might loose his son if doesnt get the job
Great contrast of moods. Everybody's so happy oblivious to how serious it is for him
I saw this movie in high school when it first came out and it was depressing, I remember thinking I'm never gonna make it as an adult. Boy, was I right.
That's why you aren't making it as an adult.
Because you never thought you could.
@@1tommyday That's very deep, thanks. Luckily I inherited a lot of money.
But you did make it!
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Debatable.
@@embossed64 you’re also honest hang in there dude.
That acting was brilliant by Dustin Hoffman.
He was determined to get a job in 24 hours, from putting pressure on the unemployed agent to being firm with the bosses at his interview.
It goes to show that sometimes you need act tough to get what you want.
I think the bosses were giving Ted a secret test of character to see if he was worth joining & his determination proved that.
It's a freakin movie! This wouldn't happen in a million years. Not that it couldn't, mind you. But this is a movie and it makes for entertaining drama.
@ralphmacchiato3761 It happened to Steve Jobs, who as a kid had the guts to find the head of Hewlett- Packard in the phone book and land a job that way with the firm. He even got some free HP parts.
Even though he’s a white-collar professional, he still has bills to pay, just like everybody else. Not all of them have thousands in savings. He took it on like a boss to get the job and didn’t schmooze or beat around the bush, he got it done! And it’d look bad on him if he was collecting unemployment while fighting for custody of his son.
Three days before Christmas yet Central Park is still summertime green.
...and the sun is shining as if it was noon but not 4 o'clock in the afternoon in winter.....
@@habovay3 that’s called the Magic of Hollywood.
@@saulchapnick1566 No magic required when shooting a Christmas scene in the summer. Simply frame the shot to exclude Central Park.
Don’t ruin the movie 😊
@@moreme40 The movie is ruined by the fact that it is never mentioned whether Joanna payed alimony for her son after she left him and her husband. It is only mentioned that she even took money from their savings when she left....
"If you could just look in your card catalogue... I'll take anything." "Wellll, They're auditioning for male strippers down at the Ramrod Club.." "Ok..I'll take ALMOST anything..."
Notice how he's sitting among all those people right in the middle of that office Christmas party and he's the only one who's not in the mood for it at all. If you've ever been through the crap his character went through you'll understand...I know I do. When your parental rights as a father hang in the balance, your life is no carnival. The way Hoffman played the part clearly revealed the struggle of it all. He was brilliant.
The Major from 3 Days of The Condor
This is the Major.
@@narosser What is your designation? What level...level of damage? Are you on a company line? You're in violation of secured communication procedures.
@@borromini63 Hello Major. Tell me, is it safe?
wasn't he also in all the presidents men? fbi agent
I never noticed that, thanks for sharing!
Timeless movie. Just humans being human.
they dont make them like this anymore but where are the actors now like Hoffman Redford Niro etc
@@genesis1765 fortunately, the three of them are still alive. But they’re up in age and can’t do what they used to.
Never seen so many people like each other in a single office.
It's a company party; all differences are put aside, no matter how much they may hate each other.
@@ericnelson9100 I agree. It happens but sadly, everyone goes back into hate mode once the holidays are done :(
MANAGER : "Mr Kramer, could we talk privately for a moment ?" KRAMER : "Sure >TO EXEC< Would you mind waiting outside ?" MANAGER : "No I meant could me and HIM talk privately..."
God was definitely on Ted's side
That was handled with true confidence. He and they knew he was the best choice.
I've done this, successfully, and later made the company know it was the best decision they ever made.
cool Marc. cheers.
What you don't see here is his DEEP fear of going before the custody judge, after the holiday, still unemployed. This is why he's so desperate. What really seals it is his insistence for an immediate hire or denial. It shows his employers confidence and also makes them think if they don't hire him now they'll regret it later.. Brilliant.
He takes command of the interview. Risky, but smart move
He also has nothing to lose, as you note it's pointless to wait until after the holidays, it's all or nothing.
It shows that this is a movie. Aka fiction.
@@fredflintstone2234 No, it shows he has balls. Higher ups are used to having their butts kissed and their orders obeyed without question. A guy like Kramer makes them look twice and realize he is something special. Heck, he may even be cut from the same cloth!
@@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 right. Try this in corporate America and see what happens
It's almost like an offer they could not refuse!
An absolute master class in acting and life.
A step down? I dont give a s**t. I dont have a chance in my custody battle if you dont make this fking phone call.
Luke, too bad they didn't have you to write the script! Lol
@@mjacobsable That's how personal a custody battle would get to me.
The subtle dissolve shot of the clock at 2:45 was nice.
Couldn't help noticing that it began at "4:20"...
"I'm an excellent copywriter."
Can anyone imagine landing a job with lines like "because I need the job" unless you're Dustin Hoffman? 😂
In today’s world he would have been fired for forcibly kissing a coworker just seconds later.
A great movie will always walk the delicate line between FICTION/FANTASY and REALITY. This scene is well-filmed and acted. Kudos to all involved. Is this a slice of reality? NO.
really appreciate the news flash champ, I bet you are a ton of fun at a party
Very memorable scene. Exquisitely written and acted. One problem - that would NEVER happen in real life. Getting a same day interview the Friday before Christmas? No way.
I think it can happen. That’s not too much problem. I don’t believe someone gets a job or a right way answer once they tell you “ let me think about it”
You left out him kissing the women at the party! 😆😆
@femgoo: In 1980, they would say, "Well, that's ok, it's just his personality."
But in 2024, they would say, "BYE BYE JERK!!"
Right lol sexual harassment Right after getting hired 😂
OMG. Are we really going there? Are people that blind to a celebratory action??
@@LukeLovesRose ?
Doesn't give u the right to grab and kiss someone
"U MAKE A DECISION. RIGHT. NOW!..BEAST MODE
Hollywood always inspired me. It is like Christ and His 45s sometimes, giving hope when I needed most.
Hoffman is then immediately fired for sexual harassment after kissing a party guest on his way out. Hired and fired in under a minute 😂
😂😂
Just like George Costanza
“Is that felt?”
😂
Not in 1979.
A much better time.
One day offers are a special thing
Aw! You cut out the part where he kisses the girl afterward!
Sometimes you just cannot take no for an answer! Way to go, Dustin!
The way he crosses out the ad while walking in the first scene is a bit cheesy, but the way that he suddenly and aggressively hands to phone to the employment agency guy is very good.
Jess Osuna with the glasses...Passed...A teacher at HB Studios......Not the most easy going individual but he taught me a great deal
I LOVED this film all my Life...💙💙💙
Blooper - same guy walks by at 3:34 then 3:47
This is Dustin Hoffman's best role. Hands down.
I beg to differ. His role as Raymond in Rain Man was the most difficult to play and he absolutely nailed it, better than he did this role.
Real world: "Ok, if you have to know right now, the answer is NO. Good luck to you, Mr. Kramer."
Not sure they knew they were saving $4800 they had to got him right there
I want to think that something unspoken was apparent to the two gentlemen, something that said it is the right thing to do to hire Dustin. Maybe because of Christmas, maybe a slight hint of desperation in his voice, whatever. And yes, saving a little $ didn't hurt, either!!
@@kaitiscarlett9022 All the above....plus being a real go-getter who didn't shy away when told him they'll think about it etc...most people would've gave in, but he didn't cave. If only majority of the job seekers in the real world would show this kind of confidence when faced with desperation, they'd get hired on the spot also!
Probably not, when they could get that level of talent on the cheap. He'd probably be off the board and handling major accounts within 18 months. Plus having talent like that, land in your lap, from a major competitor was a coup.
The thing IS though, he doesn't get that answer, unless he has the goods.
If I remember correctly, however, having a job wasn't enough to win him the custody case. Didn't he lose the case?
Love his confidence
🕎🕍✡️😆💯
Dustin is worth every dime he earns 😅wonderful in any story ❤️
Dustin Hoffman has the best smile
Love his aggression lol
True, but employers would see him as way too desperate and would probably need references.
Here's a tip on divorce ex wives and lawyers! Stand up to a bullying ex who uses the kids to hurt you. Walk away from lawyers and family courts and let the step dad do all the work !!
What he accepted would be the equivalent of a $21k annual pay cut today. It's not unprecedented, he should easily be able to prove his worth within a year or two at most, and get himself back up to his previous salary.
But moreso I'd be curious as to the percentage paycut he took. I'd assume it was around 15-20%.
@monkeyb1820 in the novelization of the movie, if I recall, he took the new job for $24.5k. Which is about $103k in today's money. So yes, 20% is about right.
@@paul16451 it's a big paycut, but in a pinch, for the quandry he was in, it's do-able.
great scene ....but they left out the part when he is leaving and kisses the girl !!
Smoking, drinking, physical contact, laughing, dancing….
Boy this office parties days are long gone.
Today everything is PC, offensive, sexual harassment, DEI …
I can't believe how young Hoffman looks
The era of unhappiness. Not necessarily depressed...just unhappy,
This would not work today 😂 😂 😂
I agree. I miss the way it was.
This could work. The portfolio would have to dictate the ask. What would you be sacrificing making an offer now versus then?
It wouldn't work then; he'd be seen as way too desperate and difficult, and they would certainly ask about his previous employment, why he left, and why he's be so eager to take a lower paying job. And unfortunately, there really is no right answer for that.
This could work if you are known in your field. He was. Today, then, and in the future. But not for an unknown.
@@ericnelson9100 I agree. "Why did you leave your last job?" "I was fired." So here's your chance to get quality work for a bargain price, but it's a one-time offer, because I'm desperate. By the way, I'll leave as soon as a better offer comes along. I never listen to anyone who says "One time offer".... salesman, company, employer, etc...at least not without some research/vetting. To me that's a red flag.
honestly, this is how people got their foot in the door in the mid-70s 80s, and early 90s, it's not "what you know" but who you know and how-to-ask-for-it. Bullet points are in the pudding bub.
"Say, are you related to Cosmo Kramer?"
That’s a man pulling himself up by his bootstraps! He lost his advertising job, but didn’t feel sorry for himself and got a new job less than a few days, even though it was a salary cut. He was willing to do whatever it took to support his son, and show the court he had a job. He had a newspaper and employment agency help him, nothing else! No networking, he did it on his own like a boss and went alpha on the bosses demanding the job!
These are the types of movies that meant something back in the day. They were genuine and authentic, and men acted like men...
As a 60 year old seriously under employed highly qualified man who has tried everything I can tell you this is as Hollywood as it gets. If only it were THIS easy.
Today, they just ghost you electronically.😂
This movie always makes me cry
Mr Kramer wanted an interview
FUN FACT: ANYONE who watches this scene 1st time will SMILE at end.
Morning light over central park at FOUR PM on 22 DECEMBER?!??! 😀😀😀
Damn that bass line is grooving!
“If you really want me, you’re going to have to let me know right now!”
I tried that on my wife once. It didn't work.
@@ktcolo1 Yep, that's what wife's sisters are for.
To this day I still can't believe this sappy soap-opera film won Best Picture instead of "Apocalypse Now."
How true this explanation is I don’t know, but I’ve heard it was because The Deer Hunter had literally just won Best Picture, and they thought that the country needed a break from being reminded of the horrors of Vietnam.
@@patrickc3419 If true, then it's the worst possible reason of all. Because (1) they based their decision on something other than the merits of the film itself (which is the ostensible purpose of the awards in the first place) and (2) it's highly-presumptuous of them to decide unilaterally whether the country as a whole "needs a break" from _any_ one type of movie. Speaking personally, I could use a break from all the dumb comicbook superhero films we've been bombarded with the last 10 years for example, but I wouldn't presume to try to dictate that preference onto the rest of the country.
@@MrPGC137
IKR??
Another one where they really dropped the ball was when Shakespeare in Love won over Saving Private Ryan.
Office parties ain't like they were in the 70's!
I think a lot of places would have beer in the kitchen fridge even until the early 2000s...
2:59 If I was the guy making decisions about who to recruit and an applicant came in and said that to me, I'd give him the job right there.
HR has destroyed company parties.
This is a one-time offer Love it
My, we ARE a hotshot, aren't we?
Yes we are.
I like how he was more impressed than anything
🎶Slappa da bass🎶
good for him
45 years ago
Want ads in the newspaper, the way it should be.
I love that movie
Father rights!
1979's NYC was beautiful, both here and in Woody Allen's "Manhattan". I know it was a dangerous place back then, but I miss the old huge American cars, the fashion, music, the twin towers...😢
And the rule of law, where real criminals went to jail, and the city was not used for Political lawfair.
@@greggergen9104 aww, is the little boy sad that trump finally was convicted for one of his many crimes?
@jonathanbirch2022 Who used illegal measures to throw elderly people out of rent controlled apartments, but unfortunately was only reported on by small newspapers like The Village Voice. There was such an article from 1979 where he tried to claim that an 80 year old woman had not paid her rent while in the hospital; she had receipts to back up her claim but still had to go to court to fight that evil bastard.
It was also very dirty, as pollution was a huge problem. Not just that, but litter, people not cleaning up after their dogs; there was also a very big real estate crash from 1975 to 1980, as fewer and fewer people wanted to live there. As far as the Twin Towers, that was a huge eyesore on the skyline, just a bland ugly sight; the tragedy of 9/11 doesn't change any of that.
I've never seen this movie, but remember that it's about a couple getting divorced. After seeing what a jerk Dustin Hoffman's character is in this 1 clip, it's no surprise his wife wants a divorce.
She leaves him and their young son and then decides she wants custody. He loses his previous job because he's trying to raise his son alone. He needs another job fast or he risks losing custody of his son. Hence his pushiness.
Watch the movie. He’s not being a jerk. This is a father fighting for his son. Some things are worth putting it all on the line for. As a father, your son is definitely one of those things.
I can tell that these guys are impressed with Ted. Maybe Ted will move on up in the company later
I wish my father had loved me as much.
Wish it was that easy for me. I’ve been trying to get a job for over twenty years!
I'd hit up the buffet on my way out.
Hurry up and wait
Excellent
He can also count cards
I would have hard passed because his desperation is a red flag. Who knows what kind of drama he would bring into the office.
Then he leaves the room, kisses a random woman at the party and gets fired for sexual harrassment...
@@joemoore9248 Yes, although I don't know why you chose to phrase it that way.
@@joemoore9248 It was a joke.
He goes to great lengths and shows tremendous determination to get a job and then does something that could get him the sack nowadays.
@@joemoore9248 Oh, FFS...
I'm putting it in the context of what would happen today.
It was a joke.
You are hard work.
Something tells me you're on the spectrum...
Kramer is much shorter than when he lived across from Jerry.
And when he was taller, he did not have kid son who knew how to make breakfast better than him. And of course he did not have fancy well paid job and he was quite against marriage and family in general.
I noticed that too.
Well JT, we have absolutely no other candidates for this job and it’s Christmas, what do u think? Let’s let him sweat and second hand smoke for 15 minutes.
But if we wait until the new year we don't have to pay him a Christmas bonus for being with the company for twenty minutes.
Great scene
What is the song playing at the Christmas party?
Christmas music
I tried this once but it didn't work.