Jack genuinely described the way u feel about this perfectly. Im just shocked so fucking shocked ( EDIT.. I DIDNT MEAN TO START A WHOLE WAR IN THE COMMENTS 😭)
@susieeeworld buddy, I don't think the way its being used rn is hurting anyone. Also, it's honestly not the time either to be focused over someone cursing when this topic is literally about domestic abuse. It was completely unnecessary. Respect you tho, mate. Stay safe out there
A sad fact about abuse is that the abuser can just be completely normal with all their friends besides the person they’re hurting and then the friends are just completely confused and feel bad. Go support Shelby! I hope she smiles today and gets better!
@@meh_81 Wilbur literally confirmed that he was the abuser? There are so many people who confirmed and supported this with their stories. Along with this look at Wilbur's actions in the past, he is strangely violent and bites cameras often too. Biting is abuse, it's painful, really fucking painful. If Shelby screaming in pain doesn't count as abuse then you need a reality check. Support Shelby and everyone else who was abused by Will.
Tommy trusts everyone and likes everyone, and Wilbur became a pillar for him to grow (since at only 16yo, he needed someone older to support him), which he calls his brother. I can't imagine what this is going to do to him...
@@adalon378I know, man. I feel bad for everyone in this situation, especially Shelby and Tommy. At least Tommy still has people like Schlatt and Slimecicle and his girlfriend and other people, but that has to be a total shock. I feel so horrible for Shelby, nobody deserves to go through anything like that. It’s fucking sick. Wilbur helped me through a very hard point in my life so being a fan finding out about all of this is tough, too. I fully support Shelby and Tommy and everyone, and I’m really hoping they’re ok.
Imagine being friends with a twitch streamer and then a few years later, it just revealed that he's a damn bastard. I feel bad for Phil, Tallulah, ranboo, Tommy and the others. It's such a pain in the ass to see one of your friends turn into a bastard.
Imagine finding out you best friend was an abuser 😐 I just want to hug Jack and Tommy. Edit: any other streamers apology on not speaking about this situation is better than his own one, and he didn't even make a video, no he TWEETED out saying he didn't mean it 🤦
Yeah, this is why I don’t like the people pressuring everyone into saying something right away… they gotta have time to process and work on how to support the person who was hurt by him
How did Jack apologize better than wilbur even though he didn't have anything to do with it. He perfectly describes how I assume a lot of people feel it breaks my heart to see him so betrayed
@@BunnuDrawsWell wilbur had a ex named shelby which Is a popular streamer and was close to wilbur he had feelings and he would send letters then he starts bitting her in her arms then it got bruises so he just keeps bitting her legs and he was filfthy she used her just for laundry and paying stuff like their food or something then he would get abusive but then he apologized which he didnt he just victimize him self Instead of apologizing to shelby
Shelby is the sweetest being this earth has ever seen, and I thought that Wil ur and her would be a cute couple, and at first, maybe they were, but what Wibur did. Makes me sick he used to be one of my favorite youtubers, and now I wipe him off the list of people I watch. Shelby, I love you. You're one of my childhood youtuber. I hope you feel better now that it's over ❤❤❤
i think in one of his music vids it i think it says i love u don’t leave me or something like that then there’s a like a slaping sound which i’m pretty sure girls would normally slap men for doing something i mean like even my mom slaps my dad not ebijg s3xist i’m female too woman are diffent(sorry i can’t spell corrtly)
you can see how hard this hit him. I hope he, Tommy, Phil, tubbo, and the rest of the gang are able to get through this…same with Shelby. I only wish her the best and hope she can recover from what Wilbur did.
All these "Dream SMP" youtubers drama started after Technoblade's death, or atleast came to light further and gained more popularity. Techno was really the one holding that era of Minecraft community together. Rest in peace.
You’re right. There’s so much controversy about Dream being a groomer and Wilbur being a biter and Shelby’s toxic fanbase doxxing children, yadda yadda yadda. I feel like Techno’s death just broke so many people in so many ways, that they changed.
I’m a victim of abuse, and… Honestly it’s looking like Shubble lied. Call me mental or tell me I need help, I’ve heard it all already. I have proof and you don’t. 1. Shubble forgot her story after telling it without forgetting everything. 2. Shubble lied about some things like wearing long sleeves and long pants to hide bruises, and she said that she bruises easily so she can’t hide it with makeup 3. there’s a leaked audio clip of Shubble hitting Wilbur and him screaming 4. this is the third ex she’s accused of abuse(ParkerGames, Speedyw03) then Wilbur) 5. Wilbur never admitted to abuse, only biting which both confirm is consensual: “I am shocked by the allegations of abuse, especially in the form of biting” 6. She said Wilbur locked her out of his house, but at the time, he lived with his parents She broke 5 laws: Article 188 - Libel (administrative violation) Article 189 - Insult inflicted in a public speech, or in a printed or publicly displayed work or in the media (administrative violation) Article 203-1 - Illegal actions regarding information about private life and personal data (administrative violation) Article 353 - Unlawful acquisition of computer information(Wilbur’s personal data) (administrative violation) Article 355 - violation of the rules for operating a computer system or network(administrative violation) 7. Shubble’s cousin recently posted on how they met Wilbur, and he was a sweet soul. Which is the Wil we all knew, and Shubble’s cousin also made it seem like Shubble was the abusive one. You can go check out that response as well 8. Wilbur’s closest friends(Tommy, Phil, etc.) responded to this whole thing and they mentioned NOTHING about him. People will say that they’re just trying to get this all about Shubble and that’s exactly what she wants. 9. Now, let’s think away from attacking, and more of the defense side. I’ve said this before Wil apologized and I think I was correct. WilburSoot, the guy who spent hundreds and thousands of his personal time and money for his fans. That kind of evidence is impossible to fake. “Wilbur treats his fans like shit, and only wants fame and money” Let’s take a look at this. Summer of 2021, during a stream on Wilbur’s twitch. He donated to a charity in the UK Lovejoy tour of 2023, Wilbur offered to pay for a group’s water because of how hot the venue was He was editor for Soothouse and Sorry Boys. His friends wanted to help but he was stubborn and did it all himself He payed for the Disneyland vlog Bought his friends a lot of stuff. Cotton candy(Disney land vlog) donated bits on twitch, and souvenirs Producing his merch, which is obviously incredibly expensive Production of his music videos, which in one stream from a couple years ago, he talked about his Soft Boy was incredibly expensive And so much more So, if he didn’t do all that for his fans, what else could it be for? Let’s not even talk about the thousands of hours he spent streaming for us. When he was sick, when he was severely anxious/depressed, when he wasn’t at home, and so much others. He shared the most difficult parts of his life with us, so you know how vulnerable that makes him? 10. Shubble multiple times have disrespected mental health, she made fun of it and doesn’t care about all the lives lost because of her. MINORS killed themselves over this shit. 11. Wilbur has proof. Shubble doesn’t. Everyone is following Shubble blindly. 12. Now, I’d like to talk about Dream and Aimsey. Dream got allegations and said to always ask questions, but he never asked questions about the Wilbur situation. And Aimsey, Aimsey always follows so called victims blindly, but not every victim, only the girls. She never said anything about Freddie Badlinu. When she got allegations, she said to never follow someone blindly. It seems they’re both hypocrites. There is so much I’m leaving out but I think this is long enough. Goodbye, and have a good day.
( more information that proves will is the victim of the relationship ❤) Shelby has accused all of her previous exes (Parker and speedy) of the same exact thing, and now she is trying to frame Wilbur aswell, and ruin his career. There are no bruises seen on Shelby during their relationship, as she wore very revealing clothes (short sleeve shirts and skirts, etc) and no, she didn't cover them up. Based on the way she was describing them, it would be very hard to cover them up and Shelby has also said that she bruises easily. She has disrespected multiple people by saying that 'depression is not an excuse for abuse', it might not be an excuse but it is for sure a reason. Depression is different for all people, and it's not just being really sad, it is an actual mental health disorder. Wilbur has been seen having bruises on his arms and neck at the time they were together. And now, in the last stream which he appeared in, which was Tommy's 'if I annoy will, the stream ends', Wilbur has been seen very weak, very thin and pale. This was after their relationship. Shelby did not say these things to "bring awareness" but to ruin her ex boyfriend's career when he was finally reaching success.
He knows, he can't even speak on it yet, poor lad is recovering from a surgery and still hasn't recovered from Techno emotionally, this is a low blow, I don't expect him to be active for a while
@@Stella.22g at this point I don't know if 2024 will be a good year, we are 3 months in and we have seen so many things already, aside from this that indeed is a very personal blow, he did look up to wilbur, and turns out he abused one of his friends
just took all lovejoy and wilbur soot songs of my playlist. i listened to lovejoy for the last time and it fucking hurts because it’s so good but i can’t morally listen to it. i hate this. i hate everything.
@@lusyfox You cannot separate the art from the artist when actively listening to the art is supporting the artist financially and allowing them to continue abusing their power. In Ranboos words; “listen to a different fucking song”
I stand with Jack on his opinion. I totally feel shocked. Sometimes you just make an image of someone and when something you never thought that it would go into the real image is just... Shocking.
@@hookie-h1b Of course! It’s great to find more supporters in comment sections! I’m not a large Shubble anti tho, I’d rather express my interests then hate on other people’s :)
I still cant believe whats going on i dont know how to feel wilbur had always been my comfort streamer now i dont know what to say i 100% support shubble fully for coming out and saying this
PIN THIS! Guys i found a comment screen shotted onto twitter/X saying that shelby has a past issue of accusing her other ex bf AND IT RUINED HIS LIFE and then they found out shelby was lying wnd called her out so shelby disappeared for a time
where's the solid evidence? her and MunchingBrotato decided long distance wasn't for them, so that was a respectful break up. her and speedy broke up on good terms, while they where dating the only people who made problems were the Wilbur x Shelby shippers. and parkergames didn't have his life ruined cause a year after the break up he gained half a million in just under 4 months. though there being not much about him, digital footprint is a thing and it would be granted you would find prove of any accusations. (proof that was actually made 3 or 2 years ago and not a post form a couple months ago)
TBH, I think we should probably keep a more neutral view for now. Because we have evidence for both sides- multiple people saying Wilbur bit them, but also Wilbur having visible bruises in several vods. And I’m not saying we should support Wilbur’s actions, especially not if he _is_ guilty. But he’s still fairly young and people can change. So if we get a clear ‘yes Wilbur is an abused’ then we still need to be open about his growth as an individual.
I'll help you out, Wilbur's closest friends knew him the best, much longer than shelby. They still took her side. Wilbur made a statement saying that He was the one she was talking about on his Twitter. Also stating that her feelings were valid...then completely downplays the situation as simply 'I didn't know, it was only consensual, I have proof' and then prosceeds to not show said proof. I know it's hard to wrap your head around the whole thing. Like Wilbur seemed to be friendly, but turns out that was his facade. Believe me when I say that his friends are unanimously taking Shelby's side for a good reason.
@@CoolestEditzz after digging for a while I think I am too. Just feel like there is more proof that the #WilburSupportSquad has showed then Shubble supporters.
If you’re hearing about just now, my advice is to research into both sides (if you wanna get into it). It’s incredibly annoying and frustrating for both sides when you support someone with no reasoning and evidence. Personally, there’s more evidence against Shvbble so for me it’s #wilbursupportsquad Idc who you support, respect others for they are (hopefully) respecting you. Have a great day!! :)
I know this might not change your opinion on this situation but, Wilbur only admitted to being slobbish and selfish. He did not admit to the consensual biting. When they were dating, Shelby posted a lot of pictures with him and her. She weared very revealing clothes and there was no bruises. Even if she covered them with makeup, Shelby's cousin actually told that Shelby abused Wilbur. She said detail by detail. Also, if you look in those photos, Wilbur looked miserably and he had lots of bruises. Wilbur just doesn't l really try to manage the situation. I don't really know why. Shubble only takes advantage of this situation to get more followers.
Bro..wilbur was my goddam childhood..and seeing himd o this shit just breaks my heart. I always thought, that man was so kind and would never hurt a fly...but goddamn my heart is now just..broken more than ever
This is horrible I was a big fan of will back in 2022 and 2023 and hearing that breaks my heart he was so genuine I’ve never watched Shelby but she doesn’t deserve that nobody does I feel so sorry for her she deserves all the support she’s getting
Jack is clearly trying to do the right thing but not completely send angry mobs after Wilbur like most would instead of getting him to learn from his mistakes. I dknt watch his stuff but it's sad to see someone realize what they're friend did, know it was wrong, but not escalate the situation further. I hope everything goes right for everyone involved.
I feel just as shocked as Jack tbh… it’s so heartbreaking because I’ve loved both Wilbur and Shelby for years… their content and humorous personalities have always brought me so much joy… And then I go see this? I just… I didn’t even know him personally but seeing Wilbur do that, I looked up to him. And now I’m realizing I looked up to somebody who is literally acting like my worst nightmare.
@@s1Lv3rb3e Well it's not tho. WILBUR ADMITTED! What's not clicking?? You're going to believe some random cousin over the accused who confirmed the accusations to be true? Wilbur abused Shelby. THAT is the fact. Ask Wilbur, not some cousin of Shelby's
As soon as I found out about the whole situation I genuinly nearly threw up and nothing as ever made me feel that way I have never felt as if I would physically throw up due to a situation I support Shelby and Wilbur needs to help himself
I honestly used to live Willbur and his songs but now I can’t listen to his songs or even thinking about him makes me sick and idk what to do bc I used to look up to him but all I feel is shame
@@mikas_pub1314 So if you haven't seen already. Basically, he made an intagram post saying something along the lines of: "Stuff was said about me, but I am going to ignore it, and promote my band. xoxo" (Again this wasn't word for word, but it basically summrized how it felt like) I dont have insta but someone did post it on youtube. Needless to say, it didn't make him any less guilty than he already is in the eyes of the community.
Me trying to find a comment that isn't talking about Wilbur's apology being "shit": AM I JUST BLIND OR IS THIS COMMENT SECESSION SHIT? Y'all are saying his apology was shit but all he did was say he was trying to get help and that the abuse allegations shocked him he only admitted to the consent biting and nothing else and you guys are acting that he didn't say shit from his point of view
@@mrantfrost5808 Not everything about the things happening have to be about her. He was saying his point of view not yours not mine and defiantly not Shelby's
not saying Willbur didnt do wrong, but 9 out of 10 times when everyone who knew the abuser for a very long time and never even noticed even slight signs theyd abuse people, and then people come out saying they abused them, the victims are hiding a large part of the information. For example, often they called on it partially or had many chances and times to stop it and just never did. Neither the agressor or the victim is without blame in these situations. If Will was that bad, his closest friends like Jack wouldve seen signs before the abuse even started.
I’m so shocked… with Dream, he showed evidence and defended his side and was proved innocent. And with Will… it’s just so shocking… he hasn’t showed proof at all…
Dream took months to make a video explaining the truth. Im hoping wilbur will do the same in a couple months. It takes time to come up with enough evidence.
Jack apologizing for how long it took for him to talk about it upsets me because he should have to feel like he needs to talk about how he found out his friends is not a good person, immediately after he finds out
I wonder if Tommy is going to address the situation at all, its so dissapointing what Wilbur has done, and I know he and Tommy were close, I cant imagine what tommy’s going through, but yeah support Shelby all the way.
“He’s done some bad stuff” it’s criminal abuse. Don’t sweep it under the rug. 5000 bucks says all of these guys are doing content with Wilbur again by the end of the year
I know I’m gonna get ppl from both sides yelling at me but I’m gonna say this I really am unsure about both sides because we have little to no proof of anything I believe Shelby but I’m not sure how to feel about Wilbur but his apology was horrible I feel as though we need to hear from both sides and to be honest this probably should’ve been talked about with the whole dsmp and any members associated with the situation in private
I support Wilbur and Shelby since I felt confused after hearing both sides of the drama so I’m not gonna argue who’s the abuser and stuff but I just feel a little disappointed knowing Wilbur did it months ago and Shelby never really said anything about it, Also Wilbur abusing her.
Despite everything he helped shape me to who I am today. And I’ll never get rid of that just because my idle ended up doing something horrible years ago. I’m proud of myself and love myself and that’s what matters
Wilbur admitted to abusing Shelby (Shubble) in an apology which was basically “I’m sorry you felt that way” after people figured out that she was talking about him when she talked about what happened with an ex.
@@mrsxp0tt3h “During our relationships final months, I regrettably became slobbish, disrespectful and selfish” he admitted to his bad behavior. Just because HE doesn’t consider it abuse, doesn’t mean it wasn’t abuse. He basically said “I did do everything she said but I don’t consider it abuse” even if you ignored the biting aspect.
(Lovejoy basically is wilbur btw) also i feel bad too but i think people need to back off wilbur abit yah know sending death threats and all that, also i think hes got some mental issues he needs to sort out
no but i think they fact that even before she came out and all this happened many people said how he gave them bruises and also how many other people have talked about the fact that they witnessed this even people who were working/friends with lovejoy showing pictures of the bruises is so vulnerable and shouldn’t be something she has to do there is more then enough evidence proving this is true between clips and the fact that everything in her story lines up and based off his response and responses of others
The fact that jack apologized better than Wilbur despite having done nothing wrong is so sick tbh
Wilbur's apology was literally "don't let this ruin my career
And the fact that it was the last little bit at the end and not even to Shelby
@@5hroom_His whole statement was about him its just sick.
@@xochitldiaz7528 Fr
@@xochitldiaz7528he made it about himself and his “healing.” an apology is not the time to talk about yourself
It broke my crippled little heart to see Jack so confused and upset that he couldn’t even last five minutes. Betrayal hurts like a b1tch.
The amount of likes actually made me cry. Thank you so much and massive respect to everyone supporting Shelby, love you all x
@@SamStaveley-li6gn What??
@@SamStaveley-li6gndo you know what Wilbur did?!
watching the stream it was really sad to see Jack so upset about it he couldn't continue the stream. #supportshubble
@@Th3_SUNNI3 💀
Jack genuinely described the way u feel about this perfectly. Im just shocked so fucking shocked ( EDIT.. I DIDNT MEAN TO START A WHOLE WAR IN THE COMMENTS 😭)
@@susieeeworldbbh spotted
@@susieeeworld ok c
@crochet_by_lyda how am i in the wrong fandom?..
@susieeeworld buddy, I don't think the way its being used rn is hurting anyone. Also, it's honestly not the time either to be focused over someone cursing when this topic is literally about domestic abuse. It was completely unnecessary. Respect you tho, mate. Stay safe out there
@@ballerjuike sorry then :(
A sad fact about abuse is that the abuser can just be completely normal with all their friends besides the person they’re hurting and then the friends are just completely confused and feel bad. Go support Shelby! I hope she smiles today and gets better!
a sad fact about this whole situation is that people have the ability to lie. shelby could be lying. the others could be lying. we don't know.
@meh_81 why would so many people collectively lie when he's also admitted to the biting
@@mochees he's admitted to biting, not to it being abusive. for the collective lying, there can be numerous reasons, but it happens.
I hope she stops the people sending CP of wilbur and telling him to kill himself, she's just as horrible.
@@meh_81 Wilbur literally confirmed that he was the abuser? There are so many people who confirmed and supported this with their stories. Along with this look at Wilbur's actions in the past, he is strangely violent and bites cameras often too. Biting is abuse, it's painful, really fucking painful. If Shelby screaming in pain doesn't count as abuse then you need a reality check.
Support Shelby and everyone else who was abused by Will.
i feel so bad for tommy right now, mustve been a buge shock
Tommy trusts everyone and likes everyone, and Wilbur became a pillar for him to grow (since at only 16yo, he needed someone older to support him), which he calls his brother. I can't imagine what this is going to do to him...
@@adalon378I know, man. I feel bad for everyone in this situation, especially Shelby and Tommy. At least Tommy still has people like Schlatt and Slimecicle and his girlfriend and other people, but that has to be a total shock. I feel so horrible for Shelby, nobody deserves to go through anything like that. It’s fucking sick. Wilbur helped me through a very hard point in my life so being a fan finding out about all of this is tough, too. I fully support Shelby and Tommy and everyone, and I’m really hoping they’re ok.
@@lxvleycorpse Tommy really couldnt catch a break recently
Imagine being friends with a twitch streamer and then a few years later, it just revealed that he's a damn bastard.
I feel bad for Phil, Tallulah, ranboo, Tommy and the others. It's such a pain in the ass to see one of your friends turn into a bastard.
@@RanceVarronACruz fr i feelbad for him
Imagine finding out you best friend was an abuser 😐 I just want to hug Jack and Tommy.
Edit: any other streamers apology on not speaking about this situation is better than his own one, and he didn't even make a video, no he TWEETED out saying he didn't mean it 🤦
Yeah, this is why I don’t like the people pressuring everyone into saying something right away… they gotta have time to process and work on how to support the person who was hurt by him
Has Tommy responded yet? I feel so bad he has to go through something like that because the two of them were basically brothers
And phill
@@papyrus_thebest248 yep :(
@@Roach4 he tweeted out saying sending love to Shelby or smt
I love how other streamers are speaking out about this as well
How did Jack apologize better than wilbur even though he didn't have anything to do with it. He perfectly describes how I assume a lot of people feel it breaks my heart to see him so betrayed
Because Wilbur’s statement was a statement not an apology.
Why does Jack look like Eminem. But seriously what Wilbur did was fuck up
(Edit I started a war)
Not as fucked up as SkyDoseMinecraft but still fucked up
@@FunAngelo2005what happened?
@@BunnuDrawsWell wilbur had a ex named shelby which Is a popular streamer and was close to wilbur he had feelings and he would send letters then he starts bitting her in her arms then it got bruises so he just keeps bitting her legs and he was filfthy she used her just for laundry and paying stuff like their food or something then he would get abusive but then he apologized which he didnt he just victimize him self Instead of apologizing to shelby
@@FunAngelo2005 Don't compare bad things.. 🤦
@@puzzled3071 they are still fucked up, but it chould have been worse
Shelby is the sweetest being this earth has ever seen, and I thought that Wil ur and her would be a cute couple, and at first, maybe they were, but what Wibur did. Makes me sick he used to be one of my favorite youtubers, and now I wipe him off the list of people I watch.
Shelby, I love you. You're one of my childhood youtuber. I hope you feel better now that it's over ❤❤❤
Sweet? She supports the death of my people.
Wilbur is just a little freaky. (based)
yeah i’m pretty sure wilbur’s the vitcim in at least one of these statments
i think in one of his music vids it i think it says i love u don’t leave me or something like that then there’s a like a slaping sound which i’m pretty sure girls would normally slap men for doing something i mean like even my mom slaps my dad not ebijg s3xist i’m female too woman are diffent(sorry i can’t spell corrtly)
you can see how hard this hit him. I hope he, Tommy, Phil, tubbo, and the rest of the gang are able to get through this…same with Shelby. I only wish her the best and hope she can recover from what Wilbur did.
The wattpaders have seen through Wilbur a long time ago, don't you think?
Yeah we did but we didnt epxect it to be true we just made up a character than turned put to be actually right its just heart breaking …
@@Dont_ask_questions0-0 well there were early signs but none of us thought it would be real, well anyway i don't know what will happen now
@@asheranywhere nobody does but Oh Well it is what it is and we cant change it
Yeah but.. I think that was partially all of us desperate weirdos (I'm assuming you mean the yandere fics)
@@asheranywhere well said!
All these "Dream SMP" youtubers drama started after Technoblade's death, or atleast came to light further and gained more popularity.
Techno was really the one holding that era of Minecraft community together.
Rest in peace.
good observation.
You’re right. There’s so much controversy about Dream being a groomer and Wilbur being a biter and Shelby’s toxic fanbase doxxing children, yadda yadda yadda. I feel like Techno’s death just broke so many people in so many ways, that they changed.
I’m a victim of abuse, and… Honestly it’s looking like Shubble lied. Call me mental or tell me I need help, I’ve heard it all already. I have proof and you don’t.
1. Shubble forgot her story after telling it without forgetting everything.
2. Shubble lied about some things like wearing long sleeves and long pants to hide bruises, and she said that she bruises easily so she can’t hide it with makeup
3. there’s a leaked audio clip of Shubble hitting Wilbur and him screaming
4. this is the third ex she’s accused of abuse(ParkerGames, Speedyw03) then Wilbur)
5. Wilbur never admitted to abuse, only biting which both confirm is consensual: “I am shocked by the allegations of abuse, especially in the form of biting”
6. She said Wilbur locked her out of his house, but at the time, he lived with his parents
She broke 5 laws:
Article 188 - Libel (administrative violation)
Article 189 - Insult inflicted in a public speech, or in a printed or publicly displayed work or in the media (administrative violation)
Article 203-1 - Illegal actions regarding information about private life and personal data (administrative violation)
Article 353 - Unlawful acquisition of computer information(Wilbur’s personal data) (administrative violation)
Article 355 - violation of the rules for operating a computer system or network(administrative violation)
7. Shubble’s cousin recently posted on how they met Wilbur, and he was a sweet soul. Which is the Wil we all knew, and Shubble’s cousin also made it seem like Shubble was the abusive one. You can go check out that response as well
8. Wilbur’s closest friends(Tommy, Phil, etc.) responded to this whole thing and they mentioned NOTHING about him. People will say that they’re just trying to get this all about Shubble and that’s exactly what she wants.
9. Now, let’s think away from attacking, and more of the defense side. I’ve said this before Wil apologized and I think I was correct. WilburSoot, the guy who spent hundreds and thousands of his personal time and money for his fans. That kind of evidence is impossible to fake. “Wilbur treats his fans like shit, and only wants fame and money” Let’s take a look at this.
Summer of 2021, during a stream on Wilbur’s twitch. He donated to a charity in the UK
Lovejoy tour of 2023, Wilbur offered to pay for a group’s water because of how hot the venue was
He was editor for Soothouse and Sorry Boys. His friends wanted to help but he was stubborn and did it all himself
He payed for the Disneyland vlog
Bought his friends a lot of stuff. Cotton candy(Disney land vlog) donated bits on twitch, and souvenirs
Producing his merch, which is obviously incredibly expensive
Production of his music videos, which in one stream from a couple years ago, he talked about his Soft Boy was incredibly expensive
And so much more
So, if he didn’t do all that for his fans, what else could it be for? Let’s not even talk about the thousands of hours he spent streaming for us. When he was sick, when he was severely anxious/depressed, when he wasn’t at home, and so much others. He shared the most difficult parts of his life with us, so you know how vulnerable that makes him?
10. Shubble multiple times have disrespected mental health, she made fun of it and doesn’t care about all the lives lost because of her. MINORS killed themselves over this shit.
11. Wilbur has proof. Shubble doesn’t. Everyone is following Shubble blindly.
12. Now, I’d like to talk about Dream and Aimsey. Dream got allegations and said to always ask questions, but he never asked questions about the Wilbur situation. And Aimsey, Aimsey always follows so called victims blindly, but not every victim, only the girls. She never said anything about Freddie Badlinu. When she got allegations, she said to never follow someone blindly. It seems they’re both hypocrites.
There is so much I’m leaving out but I think this is long enough.
Goodbye, and have a good day.
YES #WILBURSUPPORTSQUAD
@@CoolestEditzz I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE-
@@CoolestEditzz wait a minute I’m subbed to you
@@XFadedXSunX Really that’s so cool! I’m gonna sub to you rn
Best thing I’ve read in a while #WILBURSUPPORTSQUAD
I feel so bad for poor Tommy
( more information that proves will is the victim of the relationship ❤)
Shelby has accused all of her previous exes (Parker and speedy) of the same exact thing, and now she is trying to frame Wilbur aswell, and ruin his career.
There are no bruises seen on Shelby during their relationship, as she wore very revealing clothes (short sleeve shirts and skirts, etc) and no, she didn't cover them up. Based on the way she was describing them, it would be very hard to cover them up and Shelby has also said that she bruises easily.
She has disrespected multiple people by saying that 'depression is not an excuse for abuse', it might not be an excuse but it is for sure a reason. Depression is different for all people, and it's not just being really sad, it is an actual mental health disorder.
Wilbur has been seen having bruises on his arms and neck at the time they were together. And now, in the last stream which he appeared in, which was Tommy's 'if I annoy will, the stream ends', Wilbur has been seen very weak, very thin and pale. This was after their relationship.
Shelby did not say these things to "bring awareness" but to ruin her ex boyfriend's career when he was finally reaching success.
Imagine when tommy is going to find out
He already knows? Ay cmon at this point there is no way he doesn't
He knows, he can't even speak on it yet, poor lad is recovering from a surgery and still hasn't recovered from Techno emotionally, this is a low blow, I don't expect him to be active for a while
@@Stella.22g at this point I don't know if 2024 will be a good year, we are 3 months in and we have seen so many things already, aside from this that indeed is a very personal blow, he did look up to wilbur, and turns out he abused one of his friends
just took all lovejoy and wilbur soot songs of my playlist. i listened to lovejoy for the last time and it fucking hurts because it’s so good but i can’t morally listen to it. i hate this. i hate everything.
This is why I separate art from the artist. It's sad but alot of good things came from bad people.
@@lusyfox You cannot separate the art from the artist when actively listening to the art is supporting the artist financially and allowing them to continue abusing their power.
In Ranboos words; “listen to a different fucking song”
@@lusyfox yeah but i don’t even enjoy it anymore knowing what wilbur did
@@ariellas I mean….not if you listen to them illegally.
@@BananaBoy570 That’s valid. You got an artist you would like to reccomend?
Jack says this so calmly and respectful, ❤
I stand with Jack on his opinion. I totally feel shocked. Sometimes you just make an image of someone and when something you never thought that it would go into the real image is just... Shocking.
The fact jack apologized better then wilbur did. I feel so bad for him,and the others. I was there for that stream and i wanted to hug him so bad.
I am really scared for Tommy to talk about this because I remember, he said once that Wilbur was a brother to him..
Here we are a couple months later finding out it’s consensual, my heart aches for all his friends who suffered over those few months 💔💔
what does consentual mean?
@@hookie-h1b mutual understanding
Consent WAS there
@@Super_Weirdo okay thankss!!! do you support wilbur? i do! since the start!
@@hookie-h1b Of course! It’s great to find more supporters in comment sections! I’m not a large Shubble anti tho, I’d rather express my interests then hate on other people’s :)
@@Super_Weirdo yeah same!!
He sounded so sad and confused the whole time…. betrayal hurts man😞
I still cant believe whats going on i dont know how to feel wilbur had always been my comfort streamer now i dont know what to say i 100% support shubble fully for coming out and saying this
PIN THIS!
Guys i found a comment screen shotted onto twitter/X saying that shelby has a past issue of accusing her other ex bf AND IT RUINED HIS LIFE and then they found out shelby was lying wnd called her out so shelby disappeared for a time
where's the solid evidence? her and MunchingBrotato decided long distance wasn't for them, so that was a respectful break up. her and speedy broke up on good terms, while they where dating the only people who made problems were the Wilbur x Shelby shippers. and parkergames didn't have his life ruined cause a year after the break up he gained half a million in just under 4 months. though there being not much about him, digital footprint is a thing and it would be granted you would find prove of any accusations. (proof that was actually made 3 or 2 years ago and not a post form a couple months ago)
WHAT NOT WILL WHY MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIEEEEEEEEEEE
No it is not or maybe? Idk anymore 😢😮😅
Guys chill it's just a streamer who was faking a personality online and is actually bitch irl
@@Lizzy_Lopez366it is Wilbur?? He literally admitted to it and everyone else has commented on it, a bunch of people saying how manipulative he is
TBH, I think we should probably keep a more neutral view for now. Because we have evidence for both sides- multiple people saying Wilbur bit them, but also Wilbur having visible bruises in several vods. And I’m not saying we should support Wilbur’s actions, especially not if he _is_ guilty. But he’s still fairly young and people can change. So if we get a clear ‘yes Wilbur is an abused’ then we still need to be open about his growth as an individual.
"Pierced through the heart but never killed" -taylor swift
Some of her lyrics are too true
I agree with jack 100% I’m just so confused & shocked 😢
This is so hard to listen to all Wilbur's friends go to Shelby's side. (I am neutral so no hate ofc) I don't know what to believe tbh.
I'll help you out, Wilbur's closest friends knew him the best, much longer than shelby. They still took her side.
Wilbur made a statement saying that He was the one she was talking about on his Twitter. Also stating that her feelings were valid...then completely downplays the situation as simply 'I didn't know, it was only consensual, I have proof' and then prosceeds to not show said proof.
I know it's hard to wrap your head around the whole thing. Like Wilbur seemed to be friendly, but turns out that was his facade. Believe me when I say that his friends are unanimously taking Shelby's side for a good reason.
I personally am team wilbur
@@CoolestEditzz after digging for a while I think I am too. Just feel like there is more proof that the #WilburSupportSquad has showed then Shubble supporters.
Aged well now that he’s proven innocent, welp, false friends go, and the real ones stay.
If you’re hearing about just now, my advice is to research into both sides (if you wanna get into it). It’s incredibly annoying and frustrating for both sides when you support someone with no reasoning and evidence. Personally, there’s more evidence against Shvbble so for me it’s #wilbursupportsquad Idc who you support, respect others for they are (hopefully) respecting you. Have a great day!! :)
I know this might not change your opinion on this situation but, Wilbur only admitted to being slobbish and selfish. He did not admit to the consensual biting. When they were dating, Shelby posted a lot of pictures with him and her. She weared very revealing clothes and there was no bruises. Even if she covered them with makeup, Shelby's cousin actually told that Shelby abused Wilbur. She said detail by detail. Also, if you look in those photos, Wilbur looked miserably and he had lots of bruises. Wilbur just doesn't l
really try to manage the situation. I don't really know why. Shubble only takes advantage of this situation to get more followers.
FR FR SHE EVEN SMIRKS IN HER STREAMS WHEN SE TALKS ABOUT THAT SOMETIMES
Bro..wilbur was my goddam childhood..and seeing himd o this shit just breaks my heart. I always thought, that man was so kind and would never hurt a fly...but goddamn my heart is now just..broken more than ever
This is horrible I was a big fan of will back in 2022 and 2023 and hearing that breaks my heart he was so genuine I’ve never watched Shelby but she doesn’t deserve that nobody does I feel so sorry for her she deserves all the support she’s getting
I jate wilbur so much now, not only did he abuse people but he also made his friends so confused and hurt. Theres a special place in hell for him
There is no excuse for what's he's done.
there really isint.
Jack is clearly trying to do the right thing but not completely send angry mobs after Wilbur like most would instead of getting him to learn from his mistakes. I dknt watch his stuff but it's sad to see someone realize what they're friend did, know it was wrong, but not escalate the situation further. I hope everything goes right for everyone involved.
Seriously guys, HOW HARD IS IT TO RESPECT CONSENT?? Speaking from experience ITS NOT VERY HARD, ITS A YES OR NO QUESTION, CMON
Poor Tommy just got surgery a few days ago has a tour in a month and now this. Poor guy only 19 as well recently has been tough
Thank god people are talking about this. Thanks for being a Shelby supporter, aimsey.
I cant imagine how the other member are taking this,they know eachother more than any of us fans..😢❤
Still broke my heart after finding out about Wilbur did,he was my childhood RUclipsr still sad :(
But like jack saying it’s not like Will to be doing anything like this is kinda saying something 🤷🤷🤷
You can see the shock on his face and in his voice
I feel just as shocked as Jack tbh… it’s so heartbreaking because I’ve loved both Wilbur and Shelby for years… their content and humorous personalities have always brought me so much joy…
And then I go see this? I just… I didn’t even know him personally but seeing Wilbur do that, I looked up to him. And now I’m realizing I looked up to somebody who is literally acting like my worst nightmare.
The fact that shelbys cousin finly told everyone that wilbur wasnt the abuser it was shelby herself 🤨
He admitted, what are you defending?
he admitted to it-
@@sakusasmaskisanti_romantic jut a fact tho💀
@@OreosWithOnions ^
@@s1Lv3rb3e Well it's not tho. WILBUR ADMITTED! What's not clicking?? You're going to believe some random cousin over the accused who confirmed the accusations to be true? Wilbur abused Shelby. THAT is the fact. Ask Wilbur, not some cousin of Shelby's
As soon as I found out about the whole situation I genuinly nearly threw up and nothing as ever made me feel that way I have never felt as if I would physically throw up due to a situation I support Shelby and Wilbur needs to help himself
Bro Wilbur fr was one of my favorite Ytbers.. 😢
I don't even know anymore, like biting is abuse?? But i support wilbur alr
He looked like he was going to cry. I feel bad for him
I hope things can turn back to normal for everyone effected it’s sad to see so many people upset
I support wilbur
The fact that Jack apologized better than Wilbur did and Jack didn't even fucking do anything wrong...
Idc why does he look like slim shady
honestly the fact that jack apologized more than wilbur did was so sad
Hope that Phil and Tommy are doing ok because first Techno died and now Wilbur is called abusive must be hard for them
I never realized just how much jack looks like Eminem
I honestly used to live Willbur and his songs but now I can’t listen to his songs or even thinking about him makes me sick and idk what to do bc I used to look up to him but all I feel is shame
Wilbur is now back..buckle up everyone
wait, where did he show up?
@@mikas_pub1314 So if you haven't seen already. Basically, he made an intagram post saying something along the lines of: "Stuff was said about me, but I am going to ignore it, and promote my band. xoxo" (Again this wasn't word for word, but it basically summrized how it felt like)
I dont have insta but someone did post it on youtube. Needless to say, it didn't make him any less guilty than he already is in the eyes of the community.
Me trying to find a comment that isn't talking about Wilbur's apology being "shit": AM I JUST BLIND OR IS THIS COMMENT SECESSION SHIT?
Y'all are saying his apology was shit but all he did was say he was trying to get help and that the abuse allegations shocked him he only admitted to the consent biting and nothing else and you guys are acting that he didn't say shit from his point of view
The severe lack of "I'm sorry" and making it about him instead of Shelby is telling
@@mrantfrost5808 Not everything about the things happening have to be about her. He was saying his point of view not yours not mine and defiantly not Shelby's
@@Sleepyinnit_the_therian An apology shouldn't be him telling things from his POV.
@@mrantfrost5808 Then That Would be a Statement Right(?),
@@Project_Arcadeinlight Public statement yep, idk why all these Wilbur fans are declaring it an apology when it's just a PS
not saying Willbur didnt do wrong, but 9 out of 10 times when everyone who knew the abuser for a very long time and never even noticed even slight signs theyd abuse people, and then people come out saying they abused them, the victims are hiding a large part of the information. For example, often they called on it partially or had many chances and times to stop it and just never did. Neither the agressor or the victim is without blame in these situations. If Will was that bad, his closest friends like Jack wouldve seen signs before the abuse even started.
Jack looks so confused and sad that it really hurt my heart.
Why can't we just grow up with watching RUclipsr or Streamers without them turning out to be awful ppl
The fact that Jacks apology was like 100× better than wilbur hits
**ahem** ……….evidence please
I’m so shocked… with Dream, he showed evidence and defended his side and was proved innocent. And with Will… it’s just so shocking… he hasn’t showed proof at all…
Dream was innocent?
Tbh I don’t know if it’s true or not this has happened before.
shelby never showed proof either
He showed proof he was guilty
Dream took months to make a video explaining the truth. Im hoping wilbur will do the same in a couple months. It takes time to come up with enough evidence.
He’s not an abuser
He is bro
Omg im shocked tbf i loved him like probs 2 and a half years ago but i had no clue my heart goes out to shelby
Im not wilbur’s side nor shelby’s but I believe and support both her and niki 100% I hope wil gets the help he needs
Am i the only one realizing that everything went bad after technoblade death
He was carrying the world on his shoulders and when he died it all came crashing down.
@@HashemElbad ik
Jack apologizing for how long it took for him to talk about it upsets me because he should have to feel like he needs to talk about how he found out his friends is not a good person, immediately after he finds out
Bro I just want to hug Tommy and jack and honestly tubbo as well ❤ turns out that Tommy’s lifelong “brother” ended up being an abuser #shelbysupport
I wonder if Tommy is going to address the situation at all, its so dissapointing what Wilbur has done, and I know he and Tommy were close, I cant imagine what tommy’s going through, but yeah support Shelby all the way.
It’s always the Minecraft RUclipsrs
I don't support none nor Wilbur nor Shelby i don't like Shelby or Wilbur and theres not enough proof of Wilbur abusing or Shelby abusing
Honestly this is the real opinion I can agree on.
“He’s done some bad stuff” it’s criminal abuse. Don’t sweep it under the rug.
5000 bucks says all of these guys are doing content with Wilbur again by the end of the year
I know I’m gonna get ppl from both sides yelling at me but I’m gonna say this
I really am unsure about both sides because we have little to no proof of anything
I believe Shelby but I’m not sure how to feel about Wilbur but his apology was horrible
I feel as though we need to hear from both sides and to be honest this probably should’ve been talked about with the whole dsmp and any members associated with the situation in private
I feel sad that he made a better apology than will did
I support Wilbur and Shelby since I felt confused after hearing both sides of the drama so I’m not gonna argue who’s the abuser and stuff but I just feel a little disappointed knowing Wilbur did it months ago and Shelby never really said anything about it, Also Wilbur abusing her.
fair enough
slim shady??
PFF-
I used to love wilbur and wanted to be like him so I decided to grow my hair out 2 years ago likw his. today I chopped it all off.
Despite everything he helped shape me to who I am today. And I’ll never get rid of that just because my idle ended up doing something horrible years ago. I’m proud of myself and love myself and that’s what matters
Can someone explain the whole thing I’m really confused
I still have no idea what is going on, i stopped watxhing after techno died, and dream smp ended. So i have no idea what is happening.
Wilbur admitted to abusing Shelby (Shubble) in an apology which was basically “I’m sorry you felt that way” after people figured out that she was talking about him when she talked about what happened with an ex.
@@marissam3176he didn't admit to abusing, he only admitted to biting her
@@mrsxp0tt3h “During our relationships final months, I regrettably became slobbish, disrespectful and selfish” he admitted to his bad behavior. Just because HE doesn’t consider it abuse, doesn’t mean it wasn’t abuse. He basically said “I did do everything she said but I don’t consider it abuse” even if you ignored the biting aspect.
Thanks Jack for support the victims and apologizing but you did nothing.
Jack looks like a Walmart Eminem
i feel terrible for wilburs friends, especially lovejoy, i don't know what lovejoys gonna do about this or if they're even gonna say anything.
(Lovejoy basically is wilbur btw) also i feel bad too but i think people need to back off wilbur abit yah know sending death threats and all that, also i think hes got some mental issues he needs to sort out
I swear after techno died,evrything went downhill.. I guess techno really carry the team ...
Amazing way to handle that
This man is the 🐐
I mean im shock that wilbur also did that i mean i feel bad that jack is apologizing for Wilbur
this channel is milking so much off of this situation 😭
I'm so sad and confused and don't know anymore I'm very conflicted all my favourite streamers are at war because of this not defending anyone
Jacks going less bald yay
Has Shelby ever had photos of her bruises?
no but i think they fact that even before she came out and all this happened many people said how he gave them bruises and also how many other people have talked about the fact that they witnessed this even people who were working/friends with lovejoy showing pictures of the bruises is so vulnerable and shouldn’t be something she has to do there is more then enough evidence proving this is true between clips and the fact that everything in her story lines up and based off his response and responses of others
"oh god! I was just bitten to the point where I am bleeding! Gotta post this on the gram"
@@mrantfrost5808#bitten
Once again, your just clickbaiting Wilbur. Put Shelby in the title at least. #supportshubble
He even shown that he is violent in his first irl video with Tommy by hitting the what 15 or 16 year old
Is it just the biting, or is there more?
Shelby only talked about biting, but knowing what abuse is like firsthand, there is most likely more under the surface.
Shubble talked about biting, emotional distancing and lying but she said there was more that she didn't want to go in to
Shubble talked about biting, emotional distancing and lying but she said there was more that she didn't want to go in to
"Guys... I was horribly abused... My ex was a little freaky in the sheets and would bite me!!! Please donate to Palestine..."
@@Elizabean1984he was biting hard enough to draw blood and didn't stop when she told him to. That isn't "a little freaky in the sheets"
I'm honestly shocked, and disappointed in Wilbur. I hope you're all doing alright.
(Sorry, i really dont know what to say)
No longer baled