Hey can u see about making a video on fitting SPACE GODZILLA in the monsterverse? Maybe a dormant Godzilla rested in the crystal area in gvk where the skulls are and with the waterfall where suko was shown?
He was more durable due to having more armor and being a tank. But he's the same physical strength. He's also a lot slower than he was in 07 due to extra bulk. This and his huge new cannon weighed him down.
It wouldn't make sense. His body is clunky, unbalanced and still damaged. Megatron is at his healthiest here so out of the main trilogy, 07 megatron should be the strongest
@martianmetal I said the exact same thing as you said, but was left wondering by those who I debated with... If he is unbalanced, how was he doing wall flips, a 360° spin kick at Optimus, even shown running faster than his 2007 form. There really is no evidence nor confirmation that he still sustained injuries in RoTF, wouldn't make sense for the very thing that sustained their entire race would leave him crippled still. I do believe 2007 Megs is the stronger in terms of combat effectiveness due to agility and combat experience in that form. But physically speaking, I see 2009 Megs being stronger and more durable . There is even a Titan tie in book for the ROTF movie where it stated that 2009 Megatron was "upgraded and deadlier than ever"
@Kingofmenaces I hearby am using the arguments presented to me by those I debated with. - 2007 Megs needed two hands to throw Optimus who wasn't nearly as aggressive. While 2009 Megs did it with one arm. - the only scene when the cannon "seemingly" weight him down was when he got hit by Grindor's rotor. In every other scene he was swinging it fine without needing two hands. -he was heavier, but he did wall flips, 360° spin kick just fine. He even "seemingly" ran faster than his 2007 form. - the Titan book that was a tie in to the ROTF movie stated that 2009 Megs was "upgraded and deadlier than ever" -when 2007 Megs kicks Optimus, the mask was intact. But when 2009 Megs kicks him in the same spot, the mask shattered
@@TomfooleryBuster Optimus wasn't holding back, that's outdated and just a cope argument. Anyway, it's worth noting that Megatron could throw Optimus at greater distances in 07 and way more often. Thanks to his speed that he had before but lacked now. And if you look closely you can see that Megatron in rotf used his other arm when throwing Optimus, I paused it at the right time and saw him using his cannon arm for support. So he did in fact use both arms. We also see when Megatron swings and hits Optimus with his cannon arm and it goes down he goes from upright to hunched over. Sources with official backing do also say his cannon weighed him down and he was weaker. People misunderstand when it's said he was slower they think it means Megatron is slow in general. Megatron has always been fast, but his combat speed was slowed down. In 07 Megatron was going so fast he was nearly out maneuvering Optimus but in rotf he couldn't get a single hit till he had back up because he couldn't keep up do the extra armor and leg bulk. So he was slower than his 07 body but he wasn't slow in general. Megatron in 07 also never had a need to run so it's not like we could see it, but given how fast he was moving in battle, it's safe to assume he was a fast runner. The book is not Canon, however it is worth noting that the early forest battle drafts had Megatron dominating Optimus like in mission city in the forest. Megatron was also gonna be a triple changer in this version, but both ideas were scrapped. So Megatron got weakened and didn't become a triple changer. Things were constantly changing in rotf due to the writers strike so Megatron becoming weaker came later in production but the book was already made and too late to change.
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Hey can u see about making a video on fitting SPACE GODZILLA in the monsterverse? Maybe a dormant Godzilla rested in the crystal area in gvk where the skulls are and with the waterfall where suko was shown?
You said that Megatron was weaker in RoTF
But I have heard arguments that physically speaking, Megs is stronger and more durable in RoTF.
He was more durable due to having more armor and being a tank. But he's the same physical strength. He's also a lot slower than he was in 07 due to extra bulk. This and his huge new cannon weighed him down.
It wouldn't make sense. His body is clunky, unbalanced and still damaged. Megatron is at his healthiest here so out of the main trilogy, 07 megatron should be the strongest
@martianmetal I said the exact same thing as you said, but was left wondering by those who I debated with...
If he is unbalanced, how was he doing wall flips, a 360° spin kick at Optimus, even shown running faster than his 2007 form.
There really is no evidence nor confirmation that he still sustained injuries in RoTF, wouldn't make sense for the very thing that sustained their entire race would leave him crippled still.
I do believe 2007 Megs is the stronger in terms of combat effectiveness due to agility and combat experience in that form. But physically speaking, I see 2009 Megs being stronger and more durable .
There is even a Titan tie in book for the ROTF movie where it stated that 2009 Megatron was "upgraded and deadlier than ever"
@Kingofmenaces I hearby am using the arguments presented to me by those I debated with.
- 2007 Megs needed two hands to throw Optimus who wasn't nearly as aggressive.
While 2009 Megs did it with one arm.
- the only scene when the cannon "seemingly" weight him down was when he got hit by Grindor's rotor.
In every other scene he was swinging it fine without needing two hands.
-he was heavier, but he did wall flips, 360° spin kick just fine. He even "seemingly" ran faster than his 2007 form.
- the Titan book that was a tie in to the ROTF movie stated that 2009 Megs was "upgraded and deadlier than ever"
-when 2007 Megs kicks Optimus, the mask was intact. But when 2009 Megs kicks him in the same spot, the mask shattered
@@TomfooleryBuster Optimus wasn't holding back, that's outdated and just a cope argument. Anyway, it's worth noting that Megatron could throw Optimus at greater distances in 07 and way more often. Thanks to his speed that he had before but lacked now. And if you look closely you can see that Megatron in rotf used his other arm when throwing Optimus, I paused it at the right time and saw him using his cannon arm for support. So he did in fact use both arms.
We also see when Megatron swings and hits Optimus with his cannon arm and it goes down he goes from upright to hunched over. Sources with official backing do also say his cannon weighed him down and he was weaker.
People misunderstand when it's said he was slower they think it means Megatron is slow in general. Megatron has always been fast, but his combat speed was slowed down. In 07 Megatron was going so fast he was nearly out maneuvering Optimus but in rotf he couldn't get a single hit till he had back up because he couldn't keep up do the extra armor and leg bulk. So he was slower than his 07 body but he wasn't slow in general. Megatron in 07 also never had a need to run so it's not like we could see it, but given how fast he was moving in battle, it's safe to assume he was a fast runner.
The book is not Canon, however it is worth noting that the early forest battle drafts had Megatron dominating Optimus like in mission city in the forest. Megatron was also gonna be a triple changer in this version, but both ideas were scrapped. So Megatron got weakened and didn't become a triple changer. Things were constantly changing in rotf due to the writers strike so Megatron becoming weaker came later in production but the book was already made and too late to change.