Regarding the WSM final ideas, I think instead of the same stone off for each group it's instead randomised for each one and not known beforehand. That way you keep the drama of the 1v1 but the event could be anything. And also make the pool of possible events be higher than the number of groups. This ensures no one can hold back to go through on a known banker event
Really enjoying the talks you're putting out there. I'd love to see some strong woman come on too. Can't wait to see you back at a giants live. I'll keep tuning in with questions when the lives pop up on my feed
True, but Thor won't ever do a WSM again. He can't stand them. Just another reason why WSM is getting dusted by Arnolds, Strongest Man on Earth and now Rogue. If Thor is active and competing any major show without him on the roster loses credibility. He literally did Arnolds, SMOE and will do Rogue in a couple months. He specifically wants no part of the corrupt WSM. It's truly pathetic watching them screw up so many things. No competition gets so much wrong in regards to fans and athletes.
This was great!! Thanks to both of you to take the time out to do this episode. BRING BACK MURDER BALL LOL!! Like to see some older events make a comeback
Having the same events for everyone in the WSM qualifiers is the right move. However, they need to get rid of groups and just have the top 10 in points go through. No stone-off for the top 10. It's not fair that some of the top strongmen can't get through because of who they're placed against and/or if they aren't the greatest at stones. There's too much emphasis placed on stone lifting at WSM. Maybe WSM could add two slots for 12 in the finals and make them wildcards or something.
I like the wildcards for top 2 in points out of all of the 3rd places in the heats (2014), or... take 3rd from each heat and have them compete in 3 events on the day in-between the heats and finals. Top 2 from that group goes to finals making it 12 instead of 10 competitors
i think now with so many athlete's involved there needs to be a proper qualification system. none of this just inviting athlete's so they can have their 15th wsm appearance. top 10 from the year before get an invite former wsm can come if they decide as well. then the rest all have to qualify through the year. and just get rid of the stone off nobody likes it
@@Cambidude i think as a fan its just very confusing why some athletes don't get invites and a good example this year was rongo not being picked to compete. it just feels guys are handpicked sometimes. overload of brits and Americans. plenty of other comps where guys win or come top 3 but dont get an invite because it wasnt a giants live event.
3 years for a livestream..... LMFAO.. WSM will continue to fall behind. If you're so set on December for Europe viewing, then just schedule the damn WSM in December. It's not rocket science. Then add a Live Stream on top of the the Dinosaur broadcasting that is currently going on. It's truly embarrassing how little WSM cares about fans or athletes.
@@Cambidude Been there done that. They don't give a shit. LOL. That is the problem. My hope is more and more athletes like Thor tell WSM to pissoff, the more that stop supporting them the better. It will continue to be devalue their shit product and then they will either pull their head out of their asses or disappear. Either way, it would be better for Strongman as a sport and for fans/athletes.
WSM sells more to causal fans not die hard and always will be. My parents will watch WSM at Christmas but have zero idea what any other contest is. TV revenue will always be a higher revenue stream than a live stream. Say it’s $3m. There was 23k watching rogues free stream. Say even half pay for a live. That’s a $250 each cost. Can’t see sponsors making up much of that cost either.
@@benjoyce2383 Again, easy fix is to simply do the actual show in December. Offer live stream and the dinosaur Broadcast they do after the fact. It keeps the tradition of the "casual" fan and it addresses filling a need/request of the "hardcore" fans. Literally the best of both Worlds. It dumb as hell to know 6-8 months ahead of time who the winner is. This would eliminate and/or shrink that period of time to days and weeks. Honestly, I don't think many would miss the actual organization that is WSM. They are being left in the dust in many ways by the other comps and with more options comes competition. Hell, if I was another comp I'd take Christmas time and literally steal it from them. To assume the sport won't continue to grow and get more competition would be a mistake by WSM. What has happened in just the last 10 years has been big. After the next 10 years, we might be saying "Remember that old show WSM? What ever happened to them?" The answer will likely be, "Well they treated athletes and fans like crap and they NEVER changed while other competitions blew by them." It's already happening. As long as an active Thor isn't going to do WSM (because they are corrupt), they won't really be able to say they had the best lineup. He is literally doing the other big 3, but refuses to WSM again. That is a BIG deal even if WSM tries to act that it isn't. Other athletes also declined invites to WSM this year. So, they can continue to talk broadcast rights and think they are untouchable, but that is truly their biggest flaw. Arrogance and pride have taken down many people and companies over the years. If I'm wrong, I'll come back a decade from now and happily admit that. Because, if I am wrong , that would mean WSM got better and actually listened too and took care of fans/athletes.
@@Cambidude It might be ok as long as the gap between a PPV and TV series is small. So as suggested have the comp in Dec, hardcore fans get the PPV to see everything, and then a couple of weeks later the TV series airs. It would actually have all the qualifying Giants Live shows be in order for the relevant WSM then, unlike now where we'll see the qualifying ones for 2025 shown before the 2024 one instead.
@@Cambidude thanks for the response. To be honest this is the first video I’ve seen from your channel. Even still how can you talk about deadlift work champs without Thor.
Great podcast. Always a good time when Brycey is on. Guy is one of us, loves the sport to the core
Regarding the WSM final ideas, I think instead of the same stone off for each group it's instead randomised for each one and not known beforehand. That way you keep the drama of the 1v1 but the event could be anything. And also make the pool of possible events be higher than the number of groups. This ensures no one can hold back to go through on a known banker event
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Really enjoying the talks you're putting out there. I'd love to see some strong woman come on too. Can't wait to see you back at a giants live. I'll keep tuning in with questions when the lives pop up on my feed
Thanks brother man!
If Hafthor gets his pressing power back to something like his best he will provide a very good steel to sharpen Mitch & Tom
True, but Thor won't ever do a WSM again. He can't stand them. Just another reason why WSM is getting dusted by Arnolds, Strongest Man on Earth and now Rogue. If Thor is active and competing any major show without him on the roster loses credibility. He literally did Arnolds, SMOE and will do Rogue in a couple months. He specifically wants no part of the corrupt WSM. It's truly pathetic watching them screw up so many things. No competition gets so much wrong in regards to fans and athletes.
No mention of space cowboy?
Chatted about it in the last episode
This was great!! Thanks to both of you to take the time out to do this episode. BRING BACK MURDER BALL LOL!! Like to see some older events make a comeback
Soon
Having the same events for everyone in the WSM qualifiers is the right move. However, they need to get rid of groups and just have the top 10 in points go through. No stone-off for the top 10. It's not fair that some of the top strongmen can't get through because of who they're placed against and/or if they aren't the greatest at stones. There's too much emphasis placed on stone lifting at WSM. Maybe WSM could add two slots for 12 in the finals and make them wildcards or something.
I like more slots in the funaks but the groups stage is part of what makes WSM great
I like the wildcards for top 2 in points out of all of the 3rd places in the heats (2014), or... take 3rd from each heat and have them compete in 3 events on the day in-between the heats and finals. Top 2 from that group goes to finals making it 12 instead of 10 competitors
Solid idea
Great chat
It is good for the sport to have different styles of comps.
Would like to ask why the heavy favouring of a max overhead as been that way for last 4 years for log, flintstone, dbell, maxel
Because max OH are the best!
@@Cambidude they are cool but I like variety plus I’d love to see more squatting even just in the heats
i think now with so many athlete's involved there needs to be a proper qualification system. none of this just inviting athlete's so they can have their 15th wsm appearance. top 10 from the year before get an invite former wsm can come if they decide as well. then the rest all have to qualify through the year. and just get rid of the stone off nobody likes it
Giants live and osg is not proper enough qualification system?
@@Cambidude i think as a fan its just very confusing why some athletes don't get invites and a good example this year was rongo not being picked to compete. it just feels guys are handpicked sometimes. overload of brits and Americans. plenty of other comps where guys win or come top 3 but dont get an invite because it wasnt a giants live event.
3 years for a livestream..... LMFAO.. WSM will continue to fall behind. If you're so set on December for Europe viewing, then just schedule the damn WSM in December. It's not rocket science. Then add a Live Stream on top of the the Dinosaur broadcasting that is currently going on. It's truly embarrassing how little WSM cares about fans or athletes.
Bring it up with Endeavor
@@Cambidude Been there done that. They don't give a shit. LOL. That is the problem. My hope is more and more athletes like Thor tell WSM to pissoff, the more that stop supporting them the better. It will continue to be devalue their shit product and then they will either pull their head out of their asses or disappear. Either way, it would be better for Strongman as a sport and for fans/athletes.
WSM sells more to causal fans not die hard and always will be. My parents will watch WSM at Christmas but have zero idea what any other contest is. TV revenue will always be a higher revenue stream than a live stream. Say it’s $3m. There was 23k watching rogues free stream. Say even half pay for a live. That’s a $250 each cost. Can’t see sponsors making up much of that cost either.
@@benjoyce2383 Again, easy fix is to simply do the actual show in December. Offer live stream and the dinosaur Broadcast they do after the fact. It keeps the tradition of the "casual" fan and it addresses filling a need/request of the "hardcore" fans. Literally the best of both Worlds. It dumb as hell to know 6-8 months ahead of time who the winner is. This would eliminate and/or shrink that period of time to days and weeks. Honestly, I don't think many would miss the actual organization that is WSM. They are being left in the dust in many ways by the other comps and with more options comes competition. Hell, if I was another comp I'd take Christmas time and literally steal it from them. To assume the sport won't continue to grow and get more competition would be a mistake by WSM. What has happened in just the last 10 years has been big. After the next 10 years, we might be saying "Remember that old show WSM? What ever happened to them?" The answer will likely be, "Well they treated athletes and fans like crap and they NEVER changed while other competitions blew by them." It's already happening. As long as an active Thor isn't going to do WSM (because they are corrupt), they won't really be able to say they had the best lineup. He is literally doing the other big 3, but refuses to WSM again. That is a BIG deal even if WSM tries to act that it isn't. Other athletes also declined invites to WSM this year. So, they can continue to talk broadcast rights and think they are untouchable, but that is truly their biggest flaw. Arrogance and pride have taken down many people and companies over the years. If I'm wrong, I'll come back a decade from now and happily admit that. Because, if I am wrong , that would mean WSM got better and actually listened too and took care of fans/athletes.
@@Cambidude It might be ok as long as the gap between a PPV and TV series is small. So as suggested have the comp in Dec, hardcore fans get the PPV to see everything, and then a couple of weeks later the TV series airs. It would actually have all the qualifying Giants Live shows be in order for the relevant WSM then, unlike now where we'll see the qualifying ones for 2025 shown before the 2024 one instead.
Didn’t hear much discussion on hafthor. Too bad Colin burned that bridge by consistently favoring the British athletes instead of the best athletes.
Watch my last one, we chatted about Thor a bunch ep.61 - towards the end
@@Cambidude thanks for the response. To be honest this is the first video I’ve seen from your channel. Even still how can you talk about deadlift work champs without Thor.
@@Jjunclejj maybe because Thor isn't competing 😂😂
@@spokeen6249 he’s the best deadlifter on the earth right now though, might be worth mentioning