The Only Plane You May Ever Need!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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Master Guitar Craftsman, Gary Rizzolo, opens the box on a Luban Low Angle Jack Plane and discusses why this may be the only plane you'll ever need...
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Excellent video . I have the Veritas which has the side screws for holding the blade centrally but this plane looks very well machined.. Great explanation sir.
This was the first serious plane i bought after being disappointed in a stanley nr3 baileys which really still feels cheap & plastic (made it into a scrub-plane, thanks Paul Sellers). Loved it so much, the adjustment of the opening sometimes hurts your hand when seriously planing, but apart from that it was my favorite until i bought a no7 also from luban. Now i find i don't use it that much anymore, mostly for endgrain and crossgrain really. When planing difficult patterns, tear-out with the LA is actually more of an isue compared to the bevel-down.
@@DavesRabbitHole
The advantage of a bevel down plane is that you don't have to mess with grinding different angles etc to get it to work. Re setting the cap iron will make it suitable for any situation. Leave the bevel up stuff to where they do best. Endgrain.
I couldn’t agree more the handles on Qiangsheng Luban planes are very comfortable especially compared with Stanleys.
Thank you so much for sharing. You explain everything so well. Love your accent and enthusiasm!
Cranky grain! WHAT A PAIN!!! Great video Sir
Thank you for explaining :)
I just got that as my first hand plane ^^
Fresh out of the BOX ;)
Very good info! Sir! Thank you!!!
It's a bevel up plane. If you add the bed angle of 12 degrees to the bevel angle on the blade of 25, and then add a secondary bevel of 5 degrees, you get 42 degrees. A bench plane (bevel down) has a bed angle of 45. If you put a tertiary bevel of another 3 degrees, they present exactly the same angle to the wood.
Bob Levittan but the way force is applied is different no?
The bed angle of 12 plus 25 deg blade is 37 deg . I have never added a secondary or tertiary bevel . NO NEED . there is a VAST difference between the 37 deg LA and 45 DEG ordinary plane . Plus the LA is way superior for chuting as it ihas less cap iron getting in the way . .
The main reason that these "low-angle" planes work better in certain scenarios is not because of the angle of the cutting edge, but because the blade itself is more "behind the attack". This and the fact that you can adjust the mouth opening will reduce vibration which is the main cause of tearouts. Also these "low-angle" planes usually comes with a thicker blade, which also helps to reduce vibration.
@@738polarbear why would you not put a secondary bevel - isn't it mainly to speed up sharpening?
Just got one of these from Lie-Nielsen, beautiful craftsmanship, super sharp, ready to go right out of the box.
Don't throw away all your planes for this one. Rabbet planes, block planes, router planes etc. all have their specialized uses which this plane can't replace.
As a power tool guy, my low angle jack plane is the only one I feel like I "need", but I do find my block plane and router plane come in handy.
Nice plane. Here in the US they sell for about the same price as the Lie Nielsen and Veritas Low Angles which are better planes.
In Aus and UK the Lie Neilsen is neatly three times the cost, You Americans are spoiled for choice.
I could NOT agree MORE with you .
@@iamrocketray Veritas is CANADIAN
@@iamrocketray not really...
The trump tariffs made it 100% more expensive.
Veritas 269 euro
Luban 169 euro
I went for the veritas, as they have other blades available.
So it was worth the extra 100, to me.
Good video. However, the continuous back ground music, while pleasant, is very distracting and conflicting for those of us with hearing impairments to try to follow the informative dialog on the plane.
Thank you.
Michael O.
Alabama
USA
But was this fresh out of the box? 😋
Cheers for the video though guys
Is it fresh out of the box?
At 350USD it will definitely be one I MAY NEVER NEED.
It looks you are a luthier, can you use it as a fore plane to prepare the joints of the soundboard?
You never did explain why it may be the only plane you'll ever need.
He doesnt care, got the clicks xd
Because with different blades it can do it ALL . Roughing smoothing veneer prep shooting . The works really It's about a pound lighter than most modern jack planes but heavy enough and SHARP enough to get virtually ANY. Job done
"Running sweet ass" haha!
Uhm, the frog looks like it's rather rough milled aluminum. Please tell me it doesn't have an aluminum body.
No - definitely not milled aluminium - machined cast-iron. It must be the lighting that makes it look a bit different.
Stupid question.
machined alu....? come on the chinese are more savvey than that
I take from the comments that this is a Chinese copy of Lie-Nielsen's N0. 62. Don't mess with copies. Get the real thing.
Your comment is a fair one, depending on the quality of the copy and the nature of your budget. In this case, its not quite as open and shut as you suggest.
@@timbeconaus Try to buy Western manufactured items to ensure their survival to say nothing of research, jobs and conditions of those employees. Give it all to the East and we'll have nothing left.
Yes, "the East" are the enemy and they deserve to live in poverty forever while we continue to push them down for being what exactly? Those terrible Asian people are really mean because they want to steal our high standard of living so they can feed their families.
Rather than putting up tariffs to protect us from "them", why not be like Veritas and innovate and produce high quality items that people desire? I am not sure that the guys at Lee Valley need protecting from the Asian invasion of products.
Thanks for your message @@mrstandfast2212 . Your concern is understandable, but we can assure that our range of products comes from all over the world. We have tools and equipment that come from factories and workshops in Great Britain, Germany, China, Taiwan, The United States, Australia, Canada - and more. Interestingly, some of the companies within the scope of the western world with whom we wish to grow and with whom we wish to do business do not make the task of dealing with them very easy - despite our growth, our sales and our excellent reputation in business.
Our staff members hail from different parts of the world and as we grow our team will no doubt become even more multicultural and cosmopolitan. Timbecon does not believe in drawing those lines in the sand, Stephen. We engage with businesses all over the world. The products we purchase, develop and pass on to our customers are woodworking products that enable makers to make. Facilitating that is our mission statement - everything to get wood working.
Here in the US the Lie-Nielsen is only 20 dollars more than this Chinese knockoff. You can't compare the fit finish or the customer service you'd get from LN.
Sharpen that up and hear the difference!
A common stanley 5 will do everything that this plane will do, but more if you learn to use the cap iron. I realize the title is a bit clickbaity, but these planes were made to work butcher block type surfaces and were not popular when users were professionals. They're attractive to beginners because the setup is simple, but less productive than a common stanley 5 in the long term.
They're also outright terrible for anything other than fine work.
Agree with you David - people should have various options, and while it would be ideal to have both, in some cases it may only be possible to have one. Certainly for beginners this would be a good choice for them to use.
I have both planes. Since I have the Luban, I haven't touched the Stranley. The #62 can do all the things the #5 can do and much more. The blade is much thicker, so no vibrations like the much thinner #5 blade. The front of the sole is much longer, so much easier use on end grain wood. The mouth opening can used with a small gap for fine work, like the #5, and a bigger gap for tough work. But thats my opinion. ;)
A well tuned "common stanley 5" will indeed provide sterling service for most people, on most timbers,and most joiners will surely manage fine with one all their working lives. It is though, when faced with more exotic and uncooperative grain, the bevel up comes into it's own. The very term low angle is misleading. What we have is a variable angle plane, and it is the higher angles that are effective in dealing with tear out. Hone the iron at a chosen angle, add 12 degrees for the working angle. Invest in a few spare irons and you have a most versatile tool. You can of course hone a back bevel on the bailey iron, but you will need to invest in one or more upmarket irons, as the common bailey blades are made from corned beef tins. Even with a good thick iron, the bevel down plane is far more prone to chatter, than the low angle jack. I can't see where you're coming from advocating the No 62 for beginners, the fact that the mechanism is a simple one, means rather more experience is required in setup.
Spoken like a true amateur woodworker . You are of course welcome to your opinion albeit that you are wrong . A Stanley #5 is not as good as a modern LA Jack . For one it has far less mass . Not to mention its inability to be held properly when chuting .
Wow, everything you said, with the exception of the easy set up for beginners, is incorrect/misguided.
Only one ? are you sure sir ..
Dump the music. Why do people seem to think they HAVE to put music over everything? You might have had something to say but I'll never know. I won't sit through the noise.
Won't break the bank hey, haha
Are you Albert Einstein twin sibling?
No Axel....He IS Albert Einstein...at least when it comes to making beautiful guitars. He's a genius!
Sorry, Sir i don't agree with you ,why throwing away other planes , that why this world is in such waste competition ; Is nothing wrong with a Stanley no4 or 4 1/2 with good sharpen blade you can do what ever is needed .I can't believe you comment, please people at Timbecon fix this gaffe in future and try to respect manufacturers who have been in business for over 100 years Regards Robert
Stanley still has the same name.
But doesnt have the same quality as they had. Even the new sweetheart line is of lesser quality compared to a stanley 1950 tool.
You look like Einstein
He IS Einstein! At least when he makes guitars, Muhammad! There is a theory of relativity in that for sure!
I only lasted maybe 5 seconds maybe due to the"music" This needs to just stop. Also, If people want to promote a product or tool just say so in such a way and get on with it already.
What have we come to when listening to your interesting dialogue is not enough that we have to have loud music also. Should we have a big bowl of popcorn as well then we can truly blot you out.
you never said why this is " the only plane you may ever need!" Waist of time. Its obvious your simply trying to sell something and not inform. Probably why your channel is struggling so much.
We're struggling? News to us.
Gary's explanation of the uses of this plane make it clear that for many, this plane may be the only one that many woodworkers might need. But if you found it to be a waste of time, we can only recommend you move on to other channels.
Just a copy of something else. A want-to-be Veritas but without all the quality and less expensive.🇨🇦👍👨🦳