Roland Jupiter-X | First Impressions & Sounds From Scratch
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Just got my hands on the new Roland Jupiter-X and I wanted to get a jump on some videos right away, so here's my first impressions and some sounds from scratch using the included Jupiter-8 engine and some of the built-in effects.
There's lots more worth touching base on that I hope to cover in later videos, but for now, know this thing is a TANK. It's a serious upgrade over the System-8 build quality-wise and the keys are some of the best I've ever played (which is very important to me! {duh!}).
Otherwise, keep in mind this is essentially a pre-release unit and as such I don't have a manual, or any drivers so I'm just sort of figuring it all out as I go, but that being said I will be spending a lot of time trying to figure this thing out and get to the bottom of it all-- So let me know if you have any specific questions I can answer for you.
I played this one in a shop, Trust me its a beast. The raw sound of this thing lets u just play with the presents and be in awe of it all!
Man I love your videos bra', your playing here is just beautiful, thanks for not riffing all lover the place which I'm sure you can do no prob! I'm so getting one of these bad boys, been hovering around 1k mark for analog poly but gonna save some more and splash on one of these, thanks in large part to your videos so thank you! 🙏
Who's still listening to this in 2020? Lol, just kidding. Great demo!
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Thanks for these first impressions. I've been holding off buying a poly synth until this come out. Its sounds good, and certainly looks to be a very feature packed synth, but I'm wondering if that comes at the cost of ease of use? (You turned on Aftertouch with a lot of button clicking, and that 7 segment LED info display looks nicely retro but maybe its hard to decypher?). Sure, please line it up against your originals, but please also consider comparing to a synth at the other end of the design spectrum (but around the same price?), like the Sequential Prophet 6 or OB6.
Citizen Synth I think the important stuff is all there but there’s no doubt it’s very dependent on the menu for deeper editing. I started to figure it out pretty quick so it’s not too tragic. I’ll have as many vids as I can make coming out in the next few weeks!
What an awesome presentation. I swear, we should be allowed to click the like button more than once for some videos.
Caid Johnson you are too kind my friend! Super appreciate it
Your cat wants to be with you, but wants to be next to your heater more. :)
gsmac1969 it’s a sad truth but I forgive her for it!
At the very least, it’s got that Roland sound, that’s for sure.
definitely!
Great sound! Yeahh!) Coul'd you tell me please, how it sounds in mix of instruments in live group or live concert?
Just bought one from Sweetwater. Can’t wait to get it. Great review. Cool cat.
How do you like it after a year. Spend a lot of time with it during Covid?
@@elissitdesign I actually never got it. There was a snafu in Sweetwaters inventory and I did not want to wait. I picked up a Roland Fantom 8 instead. It’s awesome but heavy as a brick house. I’m going to be using it exclusively for my studio and using a Yamaha CP88 and my Korg GrandStage for gigs. I’m mostly playing jazz with a female vocalist so the acoustic grand pianos are what get used the most for me. Best of luck!
Does it sound the same as the System-8 Jupiter? I noticed in demos i've heard the JP08 tone sounded nowhere close to the real Jupiter 8 but the System 8 sounded much closer. Is the System 8 using same Jupiter 8 plugin from Roland Cloud. So many Jupiters!
Awesome sounds. I also like the dog bark samples on board 😀
I should make a song featuring that dog bark
MR TUNA, have you ever missed the lack of aftertouch on the Jupiter X? Do you consider it a real drawback for that synth?
Jupiter-X definitely has aftertouch! (system-8 does not tho!)
@@MRTUNA I'm sorry - velocity is what I meant. The lack of velocity on Jupiter X.
I’d like to know more about the XV5080 modeling. That’s what I currently use for bread and butter stuff and it would be cool to see how replaceable it is with the Jupiter X.
that's where things start to get into the menu but it looks pretty straight forward.... I'm not sure how much I'll ever use the XV engine but it's worth a deeper look for sure
The Juno DS 61 has the xv 5080 parameters including the 10 structures which are missing on the X/XM.
I do hope they put in to the JUPITER-X the oscillator sync & cross/ring mod sounds like the early Jupiters had please and sliders where the knobs are please just like the Jupiter's +Juno's please thank you regards Clive
Nice, thanks for showing us this demo - does it have Seamless Patch switching (seemed to?). Cats are so curious aren't they? My 2 are always checking out my latest grooves and gear 🙃 (Ed: read cupboard love ....!). 🖐😷🎹🎶🍻👍
Great machine. Exactly the same as the Xm except for the different case and keyboard. Presets are the same too.
JD73's World the aftertouch and extra performance controls are really welcome but it’s an 11/10 keybed on this bad boy
I have a Jupiter 80 and love it! What are your opinions between the the X and the 80 (considering if you have used the 80)?
I remember seeing the Jupiter-80 in the store when they first came out and not 'getting it' and passing it by for more hands-on synths. Then my bother got a 50 and I saw the beauty of the supernatural sound engine (I love having the acoustic emulations on the JP80 and the piano sounds are the most beautiful I've heard on a synth with serious nuance). So I ended up buying an 80, and it is my main master controller. They keybed is 11/10 and the build quality is too (same as on the JPX), but it makes an amazing master midi controller and is very easy to set up and split multiple layers across the 76 keys or however you choose, the d-beam is hilariously fun and the synth sounds are huge on it. Editing is a chore unless somehow you have access to the old iPad app (which would be soooo awesome to have {and doubly awesome if they want to make one for the X}). I love it though.
The Jupiter-X does 'synth' way better. WAY better. its way more playable as a synthesizer than controller and its very fun to make sounds and even play with the built in speakers. it will not replace my 80 as a master controller, or for its piano/acoustic sounds. but you can load some comparable sounds in there if you needed to. its something a lot more akin to the jp8 in name but with all the capability a modern Jupiter should have. people have been skeptical about it not being ACB but most of the response shows a lot of people prefer the sound to ACB even.
The bass on this is awesome too. Previous emulations I've heard were really missing that.
Sweet! This is a beast of a synth.. thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Roland has some magic for me, I had JP6. I have JP4, SH2 etc. But for this price I find Nord Wave 2 and UDO 6 far most versatile. It is strange that I think it is sounding better than Xm. Maybe better DA converters because of this price range? Or better software version?
Usually they put better dacs in the upper models , theyve been doing this since the jx10/mks 70 , so you defenitely get more detail in the sound
You’re killing me bro. Great vid
I love your videos. Very deep reviews and you really know your stuff.
Kord Taylor trying not too sound too clueless sometimes- I really need to start writing scripts but so long as I can keep the flow going it usually works out! Glad it’s getting to you
@@MRTUNA No scripts. Real time is great and the way a lot of media is going. You don't really ramble much.
Just bought a JupiterX. Not alot og videos on How to build Sounds from initialized tones on each model. Please make a video building classic juno106 patches from scratch. ❤
I"ll try to do that this week!
@@MRTUNA that would be truly amazing 🤩
@@MRTUNA for reference I have been trying to translate the juno106 sounds from Phill Presketts video to the Jupiter-x. How do I get the unison mode sound?? 10:40 min. Into the video: ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxEqJjZlGLke0koHvYhsoEQEZAbmTb0BEY?si=UpoMxr16SjHUfYHL
Also this sound I can’t seem to get right, but I will love to hear your take on programming the Juno model also of course. ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx3E5rjWbHkczLYewJcE5GoS-PczBZZfOA?si=6_WpRwjdll6okpU_
@@findmads I had already made a video yesterday before I saw this but I ll make **another** one that does unison sounds very soon !
ruclips.net/video/GlhMMT74wFs/видео.html
A very helpful demo. The version 1.4 firmware allows pulse width control from OSC3 slider and cross mod from OSC4 on the Jupiter model. There is a quirk on mine that allows dropping the cross mod to zero when gently pushing the OSC4 slider to the right! It can be used rhythmically. Sounds great :)
Do a vid on the cr78.drum sounds please.roland (or behringer)need to remake that machine.
I wish there was CR-78 sounds in the TR-8, but now that I have a 707 I have those sounds covered.... and the Jupiter-X as well. I'll do a drum run down in a few days
Thanks that would be great.i didn't know the 707 had those sounds.ill have to check that out now.good vids by the way.
I just ordered one! Its supposed to arrive on Tuesday! So stoked!
and?
Got one two weeks ago. Absolutely beast. Inspiring as hell. Only bad point: some of the knobs dont work on many sounds. So you cant adjust every sound to the fullest. But as a prod. i have some workarounds
I would like a full review of your cat please
Me too :D
you probably dont care but if you're bored like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my gf lately :)
@Emmitt Keaton yup, have been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :D
Did I hear stepping when you swept the filter COF?? Very UN Jupiter... (very un- Roland) Filter sweeping is a REALLY important performance function and should be smooth rather than digitally stepping through the values. Your thoughts?
The JPX and Xm filters and resonance have 1024 digital steps as compared to the usual 127 steps on most VA's, the System 8 filter has 256 digital steps I think?. I have the Xm, the filters are smoooth!
I bet it’s an update thing. This Jupiter STEPPPSSS... or jumps rather when you are doing fast sweeps. It’s a pre-release model though and I don’t have any drivers or updates or manual so I’m hoping the first update will give me MX-1 compatibility and fix the filter sweeps
@@MRTUNA Interesting, the Xm's filters are very smooth, I hope they update the X before release?
Richard Bates I emailed Roland about this today but I bet they will
Richard Bates When I got the Xm in November (with the first OS), the controls were adjusting as a 128 step offset (in Scene Part Edit) rather than the higher res filter setting of the synth itself. That was fixed in the first update, and I suspect these prerelease Xs have the old setting
Can't wait for the comparison with the System 8! Is it just me or the Jupiter X emulations actually sound better than the older ACB?
I also have a system 8, and I can't help but notice that the same thing is that the Jupiter x sounds much better.
How is this possible, I wonder? The ACB is more accurate in emulation than the zen-core. Who understands us?!?
The effects are killllller on the JPX so that might make a difference but I bet the base oscillators are a little “meatier” as they are sample based not VA
according to roland it's doing calculated VA oscillators for the models and for full zencore when osc is set to VA.
I have used the xm and I have a System-8. The System-8 behaves more like the classic analog synths but the Jupiter-xm did not. If you play a single note on the xm you would not notice but I noticed that there was some phasing or flanging when you play the analog emulation/models with a longer release and repeated the same notes on the xm. You get the same effect on the Gais, also the SH-201, and JP-8000 and Vsynth. I have had all of those in the past too. The System-8 and even the boutiques so not behave like those. So I notice there is a difference between the ACB of the System-8 and what the Jupiter Xs uses, ABM.
@@troypol343 which we spent time looking in to when it was raised on gearslutz and there was a simple fix because the ACB doesn't layer voices for a repeated same note. The xm defaults to layering it (voice assign=limit") but it could be set to work like ACB via "voice assign=single".
In 2020 there's a lot of highly desirable synths out there, so thanks Mt T for exploring JupiterX. I did a bit of exploring of my own and uncovered a shocking fact (or not, depending on your opinion). One of JupiterX's banks of waveforms is identical to those in JD-XA. It gets worse! They are in a different order, which to me suggests trying to make this less obvious, unless you're a nerd like me. It took me ages to tick off the waveform names, one-by-one, but eventually the truth emerged. I'm wondering if any other of these "building blocks" are duplicated, such as in other waveform banks or in other products?
I think there is a lot more similarities to the JDXA and the JP80 than Roland hopes people let in on, but it really does come together quite nicely for a synth based on tech a little short of bleeding edge.
@@MRTUNA Recycling is a good thing. We all need to recycle more! I'm less sure about re-cycling audio waveforms and code in a synth manufacture's product lines. Go too far down that road and all you get with a new synth is pretty buttons and a cool case.
That's pretty good news, depending on how you look at it...
Like I have a JDXA and I'd be really tempted to sell to part fund an JPX if its got all of its waves built in...
How many JDXA waves does the X actually have - is it all 450? I mostly just use the D50 bell and JD800 airy type stuff.
@@MRTUNA Yeah diving through the JDXA manual and it does look like it's a JP80 in a smaller, cheaper shell.
There's a lot of depth hiding behind that little 2 line LCD.
@@MakeMagic I really don't have time to go through all of JupiterX waveform banks, but there's probably more duplication of waveforms than those I laboriously compared. E.g. organ and stereo paired waveforms, which are in different banks on JupiterX. Code for many effects cound be identical too. I will keep my JD-XA because of the 4 voice analogue, as this is my first true analogue synth. Maybe less character than others, with limited MOD matrix, but still analogue, unlike JupiterX.
Best Roland synth in decades, sounds awesome....:-)
muzikman2008 , sounds like every synth made in last 30 yrs
LOL... it's a joke synth made for idiots who are impressed by the badge/case. GET THIS it's LESS GOOD than shit they already released that wasn't even THAT GOOD (System 8/cloud). Their last interesting synth was JD-XA, their last big synth was V-Synth , their last characterful synth was JD-800... THis "jupiter* touches none of them on sound.
@@quarkyzarky you are wrong
Finally! Someone who actually uses it as I would use it; as a SYNTHesizer. What's your verdict on this for using it primarily as a synth (in the traditional sense). Capable of saving patches? Mod Matrix? Sorry to ask of all places but I have specific questions and can't seem to find the answers within all the marketing hype and regurjitated jabber on other youtube channels about this synth. Thanks
First impression, I like the built quality, big knobs, overview... But about the preset sounds... (There's something missing , textures, more life in general) ... It's a matter of taste. I must try this synth and see what I can do to make my own sounds and also feeling the keys. Maybe after that I change my mind about the Jupiter.
You know this is on the top on my want list! Thank you so much for making the this video. You've just confirmed for me that it sounds awesome. If this is on RUclips and it sounds that good then hearing it in real life would be even greater! Take care, Sam over here across the border. :)
It really does sound good-- I'm not even sure I do it justice in this video, because there's lots lots more to cover. I was playing with the JX8P patches afterwards and they were beautiful. Glad you like it!
got mine last week mach!!!
Please what is better fantom or jupiter x for solo
Dang it!! Awesome video. Thanks!
I guess I’m gonna have to order one now.. 🤗
Lobotomy or just bad hearing?
excellent intro to the Jupiter X in very capable hands
Man - I was totally onboard with the X until this video:
* No DCB connector
* No Massive Heat Sink on the Back panel
* No XLR outputs
* No Programmer Option
Don't know how the hell a person could use such a machine, where did Roland think people were going to use these things? A recording studio?
My CASIO VL-TONE blows this thing away!
Seriously Great Demo the X sounds real good, thanks for the Demo, I don't think the cat is too fond of the JP-X at the moment...
Can't wait for the X shootouts with the other cool Roland gear you have over there!!
Artamus Longfellow it does have the XLRs! The others leave a bit wanting though!
Oh man I should've never watch this video. Gonna be dreaming of owning one of these for the rest of my life now...
I cannot emphasize enough how insane the build quality is on this thing. it is proper heavy duty. I've only had it for a day and its been enough just to behold it. Thanks for watching the vid (even if you shouldnt have)!
@@MRTUNA Yeah I can tell by just looking at it. I've been waiting patiently to finally see what this new board does and I'm not dissapointed at all. I need it.
that screen looks the same size as the one on the Xm, which is ok for the Xm but on that beast I think I’d want it front and centre. And there’s no sequencer, right?
I felt the same way, but I'm just excited at how amazing it sounds! I can't wait to hear it for myself. :)
Andy Sweetman like the Xm, the X has a 64-step per Part note sequencer for custom user patterns. It’s part of the I-Arp feature, and the user pattern overrides the auto-generated I-Arp pattern for the Part(s) where it’s used
Robert Saint John I think I just don’t get how it works yet tbh
Haven’t spent any time with the step sequencer but RSJ says it right!
The big digi-screen is pretty handy for reference most of the time
Do some layering of the JX-8 model with itself if you can to emulate the JX-10 and MKS-70.
This is a truly killer synth. Thanks to Roland so we don't have to spend as much as on a Lexus to have a few classic Roland polysynths in our arsenal.
FFS just grab the cloud VSTis from Roland that already sound better than this without the $2k you're paying for the metal and jupiter badge. They've done a real number on the public with this I see, everyone even experienced synth heads like Tuna are buying into it. IT SOUNDS SHIT. 10 year old soft synths sound better than this. Do you really want a Jupiter 8 (real one) so badly that you'll cough up 2 grand on a placebo in a stupid case just to pretend you have one, even with worse sound than system 8, when you could spend that cash on a REAL analog with great sound like Prologue 16 or OB-6? Some people....
@@quarkyzarky Perhaps you should play what you like and keep away from instruments that drive you insane like this one.
It looks and sounds pretty great but i've noticed the bank of lights on the right flashing on off during a number of your posts and i'm thinking that would drive me crazy in about 5 minutes and make me hallucinate like i was watching the exorcist part deux ! Than can be toggled off I hope ?
When available to buy?
Well Mr tuna. I ordered a Jupiter x. How's the learning curve? Best resource to get all the nitty gritty details? (I can't imagine it's a Roland manual but maybe they've changed?) Lol.
Can you save the sounds you create? Thanks.
how'd you get it so early? stores leaking them?
A month ago people were complaining that there were no Jupiter-X videos. Now Roland gets pre-release loaner units out to artist partners like Truman and Gattobus to make videos like this, and people still complain lol
@@RobertSaintJohn How am I complaining lol, I asked a question
@@TommyVarekai I think dude was just giving you an explanation with his own two cents thrown in
Tommy Varekai The dude has zero reading comprehension. A -D - D maybe.
Glad you got this video out there as I haven't seen much. I would like to vote for an extensive ACB v ACM comparison. The System 8 has been on my watch list for so long, but I never pulled the trigger because it was plastic, had no aftertouch, and only had 49 keys that some have described as "short-travel" or whatever. It seemed to me a better investment in that price range would be the DSI Rev 2 and others that have better quality. But I pre-ordered the X already because it has all of those things, so I REALLY want to know how it sounds comparatively, both solo and in a mix, with the S8. Also, one of your other viewers stated the differences might have to do with the settings... putting the voice assign limit to "single" rather than "limit"...
"simple fix because the ACB doesn't layer voices for a repeated same note. The xm defaults to layering it (voice assign=limit") but it could be set to work like ACB via "voice assign=single". .... maybe that will help the filter issue?
Thanks for this video! Yes as you mentioned for suggestions, I would like to see a comparison with the System 8 for JP8 and Juno 106 sounds. So it would be a look at the ACB vs Zen Core technology. I'd assume that there would little or no sonic difference, other than the increased polyphony on the JPX...
Yes and I have to wonder if the ACB is on the way out as it's so CPU intensive.
Ronnie Esteban I am a huuuge ACB guy, I just think it’s as good as analog or better even in the right circumstance- so I’m realllly going to put them through their paces to compare. I bet the ACB will stand out... but by how much? And if it’s really even noticeable will be interesting
@@MRTUNA Thank you very much for that. I get that the X is more workstation-like but yeah I want it more for the synth side. Also I guess there is no way to message you?
Is there a pan-spread option or something like this?
Any idea how to sync the arpeggio to Logic?
This sounds really nice - but I imagine that little screen off to the side males it a pain for original sound design?
Seems a bit of a bottleneck compared to the big central touchscreen im used to on the V-Synth GT. At least the Jupiter Xm has the screen centrally placed...
Did you find reaching over to the left corner to select waves, edit parameters etc on that screen was a little uncomfortable / slow?
well I feel like the jupiter x is really a touch and feel instrument... not exactly menu diving. so the screen is kinda 2nd in command. lol
Great video keep doing ya thang playa
Does the xm sound this incredible.? Wondering if I should get this instead
geetarRamblin Exact same engines. X is obviously larger and it has a better keyboard with aftertouch, but Xm is capable of the same sounds
@@RobertSaintJohn plus xm can bring to performances much easier
Great demonstration of the Jupiter X. It sounds great, but Roland made some strange design choices: The old-school/hard-to-read LED display in front of the keyboard, the tiny programming screen, the menu diving required to get to pulse width mod, the "belt & suspenders" wobble stick & pitch/mod wheels... For a price tickling $3,700 US I would expect the UI to be more elegant. On a side note: I dig the Tuna Cave Cat.
The Jupiter X sounds incredible in this video. VA or not it will work wonders in a mix. Great demonstration Truman. Looking forward to hearing more of what it can do
Luke Kage I’ll have lots more coming out soon!
What is better here than the system 8, apart from an extra octave and aftertouch? And the system 8 has loads more it can do?
the build quality for one is leagues ahead of the system-8, but it has 32x the polphony and you can stack 4 synths on top of each other than just going bi-timbral on the s8 (which is 4 voice each). it also has a really punchy drum track built in as well with all the classic Roland sounds. I still love the System8 for its incredible authenticity and the extent of its sound designing capabilities with the knob-per-function mentality.
@@MRTUNA If you had to pick one for analog emulations only, would you take the System-8 or Jupiter-Xm? They are the same price and I don't care about the difference in keyboards - just the sound and programming
enjoyed that - thanks!
RIP Peaches 🐈
so, does it have it's 'own' sound engine, like the system 8 does? Or is it all emulations of classic synths?
Dave G yes. It’s called ZEN-Core
Dave G , yes as MF confirms here, there is a “model” mode called JPX which is structurally similar to the XV5080 model and what debuted on the AX. The difference is that it also introduces some very nice VA oscillators and filters to use as partial sources (up to 4 per Tone). I think that once users get a chance to dig deep into this engine, this is where the really amazing sound design possibilities will start to become apparent
@@RobertSaintJohn . I like the parameters of the models but they dont have any boosters in the structures just sync, ring and xmod. The real xv5080 had 10 structures that are missing from the xv5080 model parametes. I'd also like to see the super square waveform from the system 1 and 8 in the Jupiter X. From what I read only the xv5080 model can use the 2 lfos simultaneously. It sounds great though.
Used System-8 vs. Jupiter X for making Juno and Jupiter sounds. Which would you buy?
The menu diving vs. some great knobs puts me off.
For making sounds? System8 because no menu diving it’s all 1/1 with very little exception
Roland cloud VSTis (cheap and exactly the same sound as System 8 but without the cost of the plastic :/) save your hardware money for REAL analog.
@@quarkyzarky i get what you're saying- and Roland cloud sounds so very very good- but I really like the control and the layout of the system-8. the sequencer (that I never ever use) is super useful, and it makes a great and versatile cv controller. it's also good for processing external gear with its effects section. Mostly I just like it a synth though because it really is fun to be in front of
@@MRTUNA That I appreciate, and S8 didn't cost so much anyway so if it's inspiring... cool. But this Jupiter X is just weird... so much money going into the top of the line build quality, materials, keybed but with a sub-par sound engine. How any can justify spending that cash on that sound is beyond me. S8 sound even would have been something but it's clearly NOT even as good as S8 sound! S8 actually makes a lot more sense now after Jupiter X showing how much Roland could have ripped people off if they really tried. I get that it LOOKS the part (aside from those stupid lit buttons) but no way is it worth the asking price for a sound that's sub-S8... no. way!. Anyway, I know you've just got it to demo and can't say much either way but I'm seeing people selling genuine good synths to buy this and its so sad... ah well...
Looks amazing also adorable cat
the cat (Peaches) is mostly a barn cat and its rare that she comes inside so it was nice timing for the vid!
You should call her Patches :)
that cat is camouflaged with that couch !
its best natural defense!
don't know why they include piano sounds with a Jupiter. I don't play a Jupiter for piano sounds. I have QL Pianos for that.
Having a JP80 I wonder how they compare sonically?... sounds good in this video... looking fwd to the next one... Thanks for sharing.
Simon Tucker JP80 has the supernatural sound set and it’s so so so playable and fun for those acoustic sounds like piano and trumpet.... I also a much more capable and easy to use master controller for all my other synths. The X does synth sounds farrrr better and farrr easier than the 80 but still has some very usable piano and acoustic sounds
I had a Jupiter-80 and 50 too. As mentioned the Jupiter-80 is based on the Supernatual synth and acoustic sound engines. The new Jupiters can actually achieve better emulations of the classic Roland synths. After I got a System-8, I sold the Jupiter-80 and 50 because I decided I wanted more of a classic analog sound than what they could give me. The New JupierXs are improved in that area (along with more physical controls) but the ACB in the System-8 (and boutiques) I believe is still superior in recreating not just the characteristics of those old synths but the way they behave.
@@troypol343 Does J80 sound better then J50 ? How much ?
Rafał Zastawny the sound engine is identical but the Jupiter-50 has half the polyphony and it has three parts not 4 parts like the Jupiter-80.
@@troypol343 Yes, I known that but I mean DA converters...
The Jupiter x sounds much better, more anolog!
How is this possible? The ACB is more accurate in emulation than the zen-core. What do you say Mr Tuna?
Olofoniq I’m still getting to “know” the sound, but on the surface the effects are better and the control aspects are better....... I know in my heart my System8 has the more “authentic” sound and experience but I notice it most in the filter section
Of course I understand, but if the final yield is still higher than that of the System8, I don't think it matters much the accuracy produced by a Virtual Analog that performs many calculations and algorithms, but that in fact remains very incisive, don't you think Mr Tuna?
To my ears the System 8 still beats the Jupiter-x for analog synth sounds, including as a Jupiter emulation. To my eyes though, the Jupiter-X wins. Aftertouch is super dope too
It seems as long as you avoid using distortion type sounds it sounds great , there is a difference in sound to a real analog but for a wide palet of sounds there seems to be nothing that korg or dsi can put against at this level
Did they give a shipping date, I have heard April?
I have a preorder with Sweetwater. Second or third week of April is what they’re telling me.
Artamus Longfellow that’s what I’m hearing too
genX They said it’s releasing April 3rd but shipment a week later
Lordtunes Piano Reviewer, even better! My account rep told me in September when I preordered it.
genX They’ve changed it cause I preordered too they said April 3rd which is a Friday
classic sounds
Loved the video but I kept watching what the cat was doing. The cat sure loves the parabolic space heater.
This synth is definitely my next synth. Now all I have to do is sell my Xm and my JDXA in order to afford this.
Why not buy a proper/real analog synth? Why chase after 'analog' with sub-par sound. Is it the casing and jupiter badge making people act so stupid? Serious question. You can get BETTER than this sound right now with Roland's VSTis (system 8 ITB basically), Jupiter X sounds awful... so flat, brittle and cold. That's not analog, not even close. Go buy a Prologue 16 or Ob-6 and get some genuine experience of what good VCO analog sounds like (FTR I've also owne JD-XA and it pales next to OB-6/Prologue so don't base your analog experience on that), am trying to help you here btw. Roland is pulling a marketing stunt here and it pains me to see people being ripped off for a flashy placebo. Should be made illegal in fact! Give korg your support for giving us a genuine 16 voice analog poly and NOT charging the earth for it! So under-rated that synth.
Play more, cool demo, he cat must be the your sound engineer 😎
That tiny screen tucked away to the left is atrocious enough on the Xm. On this is unforgivable
First notes played nearly with slightly less delay sounds like Duran Duran save a prayer 🙏
Buying this keyboard soon, but can't stay focused on your demo because your cat is MORE impressive.
Truman is the King!!!!
Jerel Damon 🤴🤴🤴🤴🤴🤴
did i hear this right, ? you have to scroll with the knob to select patches ? if so that is archaic. cannot the many buttons be used to select patches/performances/scense ? like other roland keyboards, as for me if you cannot access a lot of patches instantainiously with dedicated buttons then the synth would be useless for me. also he was doing dozens of multiple pressing of the menue button so meny times to get to his desired parameter to me that would also precude me from buying this synth no matter how good it sounded. far to long winded to select the desierd paameter. cant understand why roland would make such a keyboard ? or who would buy it, ? certanly not me.
Sounds great. Is Mr Tuna you or the cat?
thanks! I am MR TUNA and the cat's name is Peaches!
“i can press a button a whole bunch of times here” click click click click click click click click......someone give roland a user interface designer, and make them the BOSS of the software designer.
It looks like a supreme collation of technology, and it seems to contain so much kit, making it excellent value for money. There's only one issue, the deeply flawed System 8 still sounds better.
You think the System 8 Sounds better? It only has 256 vs 1024 in the encoders. No stepping. Also, I find how it loads the different sound banks annoying on the 8. But I trust your judgement, I'll have to listen to some comparison demos.
I prefer the look of this board and it's UI far more than the System 8s futuristic green design.
@@elissitdesign The X is without doubt a fine looking piece of equipment. It is also a marvel. The things it can do, and all contained within one relatively small unit, make it a technological masterpiece. It also has a beautiful key-bed, making it a delight to play. However, the System 8's ACB sound technology, in my opinion, sounds fuller, thicker, warmer and phatter than the X. also in my opinion, Roland just needed to re-make the System 8 with the same high quality 61 key-bed of the X, give it 16 voice polyphony, and there you would have had a synthesizer capable of challenging any other synth, currently in manufacture, for sound quality.I spoke to a Roland expert at my local music store, which houses a Roland Planet section within it, and he agreed that the 8 does sound better, on the whole.
Even the default preset is the same as the Xm. It’s identical as engine
Music Fed you can trade patches I understand same with the MC707
strangely there's no way to export our own patches though yet (on the xm) - other than a full backup/restore. We can import zencore tones made on other devices though.
What about DA converters ? The same ?
@@rafazastawny1629 I recall seeing someone from roland saying the internals were identical - but I can't find where I saw that now. Roland ceo Jun-ichi Miki said of the XM: "It’s the same synthesizer specification as the larger JUPITER-X; almost like a module version which for convenience includes a premium compact keyboard, computer Audio Interface, integrated high quality monitor speakers, and even battery operation! "
Love the cat
2:12 That's a pretty steppy sweep! You'd think that by now staircasing would be a thing of the past. Sounds great otherwise!
Payt Laros it’s fixed now! Can’t hear the stepping at all
@@MRTUNA Ok cool.. was there a firmware update or something?
Sounds really great. In a mix you probably won't tell the difference.
You will, if you have ears and a soul. This synth is a joke.
@@quarkyzarky Uh... No. I've listened to hundreds of Jupiter -8 demos. SO I definitely have ears and a soul.
Please do a Zen core demo!
Alex Darsen working on it!!
Sounds good. They should drop $500 off the pricetag though.
Sign me up!
C minor 4everrrrr
Take a listen to this C-Minor Bach Organ piece. It's one of my favorites! I also want this synthesizer (Pipe Organ), but it won't fit in my place. :(
ruclips.net/video/nVoFLM_BDgs/видео.html&ab_channel=FFRPianist
Lol I just spent 2 hours sequencing and noodling in c minor and said something very similar with some added emphatic expletives... happy I finally got my new sequencing setup running! Cheers!!
Trying hard to move into other keys, but I don’t know all my scales yet :(
love ur cat
me too!
@@MRTUNA i like that sound bro... like warm sound same the old jupiter to me
Roland Jupiter X Nr 1 PLANET TERA Best Creator SECRET. piano sax brass panflute sinth etc........
Best Synth 🔥👍🎸🎧
Man you must have led a very sheltered synth life if you think this is anywhere near 'best synth'. Remove the jupiter placebo case and you have a sub-par soft synth ALREADY beaten on sound by Roland's own System 8/VSTs Jupiter or Diva/repro. This is the most woefully misjudged product Roland have made in a long time. I would piss myself laughing if I walked into a serious studio and saw this waiting for me. Best current ANALOG synths are OB-6 and Prologue 16. Fact.
Is it just me or am I hear some stepping in the filter control under manual movement. Say 8 was brilliant when it came to smooth control. I think it sounds good otherwise. If the sys 8 had 5 octaves I wouldn’t even think about it. Well played Roland.
Pernett Media i waaaaasnt going to mention it and I was wondering if anyone was going to notice it! It has 1024 steps of control on the filters I think it’s just trying to keep up to the sweep (I definitely feel the jumping when I go looking for it) tested on the System8 and it does not do it at all. I wish the System8 was in this body with 16v, aftertouch and 5 octaves but 🤷♀️
Pernett Media that being said this is a pre-release model so it hasn’t had any time for updates or anything yet. That might be solved upcoming
One thing to look out for is that you may find you’re adjusting an offset (-64 to 63) rather than directly adjusting the high-res setting and its full 1024 range. My Xm defaulted to this behavior before the first firmware update (now fixed), so this may be an X pre-release issue
So, r u impressed?or, not that much?
ingoodmusic give me a few more days to get to the bottom of it but sound genuinely good and the build quality is like a real Jupiter should be. I am still trying to figure out the menu the easiest way though!
ACB or this new technology?
love the cat
me toooo
2K price tag WoW, ill need a second mortgage lol. Some awsome sounds coming out of this kit though!
John Williamson I was pretty impressed once I started digging into it
nah, it's total shit sound. Stop being fooled by the damn jupiter placebo casing!
Give your kitty some attention. Lol
demo the vocoder please!
deal!!
@@MRTUNA Does the jupiter x work with original patches from the jupiter? Or other synths it has on there?
@@codebus yes it has recreations of most of the JP8 original patches
@@MRTUNA Sorry I should clarify... does it support using original patches... For example... the D05 is really really close to the D50, and you can use patches or custom patches for the original D50 on the D05. The Ju-08 however couldn't.
!OMG!
Roland isn’t reissuing analog gear for a reason. They have taken digital to heights no one has seen before.
Yeah... right up to the BASE RUNG of the ladder already mounted by Sequential and Korg with OB-6 and Prologue. Digital will not replace analog. This sounds shit.
@@quarkyzarky Do you spend all your time ranting about this instrument on RUclips?
Sounds the same as analog, offers way much more versatility.
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i think i see... a CAT!