if you're onsighting 12a you could be climbing 14a routes at least if you spent enough time on it, or if you trained hard you could knock out 14s left and right
nice job, good footwork - and no hang dogging after that missed dyno near the top...what happened, not enough slack? some pretty tiny crimpers on that route, well done again
- you must be exceptionally tall? It seemed like a series of dynos to big pockets then a couple of crimpers but plenty of foot holds throughout ....no diss on you man - just a lot of new routes I see are graded a tad harder than thirty years ago when climbing in the 12s was really something special.....check out "cobra crack" up at Squamish in Canada...Good job anyway...definitely a hard route to be sure but in the 12s ??? just my opinion
A 12 is a 12. Height, reach, weight and strength affect all climbers differently. He is tall as he states in the description which certainly makes a difference but overall consensus says it is still a 12, it's just a bit easier for him.
8:32 the classic "Why is all this chalk caked on these shitty holds?" experience from the RRG!
Looking strong Seth!! Thanks for another good one.
Looks like a super fun route
So easy & so hard at the same time! Great job! :)
I climbed this route, very nice & interesting
looks super fun, gives me some hope that I can climb 5.12 outside at some point
if you're onsighting 12a you could be climbing 14a routes at least if you spent enough time on it, or if you trained hard you could knock out 14s left and right
It's usually if you onsight 12a you can send 13a, etc
nice job, good footwork - and no hang dogging after that missed dyno near the top...what happened, not enough slack? some pretty tiny crimpers on that route, well done again
Nice climbing! Which shoes are those by the way?
way to bleed. good work
Maybe 12a for a shorter climber.
- you must be exceptionally tall? It seemed like a series of dynos to big pockets then a couple of crimpers but plenty of foot holds throughout ....no diss on you man - just a lot of new routes I see are graded a tad harder than thirty years ago when climbing in the 12s was really something special.....check out "cobra crack" up at Squamish in Canada...Good job anyway...definitely a hard route to be sure but in the 12s ??? just my opinion
badnews feel free to jump on it and give it a more accurate assessment.
Cobra Crack is a solid 5.14. Comparing any 12 at The Red to a 5.14 finger crack in Squamish is apples and oranges.
A 12 is a 12. Height, reach, weight and strength affect all climbers differently. He is tall as he states in the description which certainly makes a difference but overall consensus says it is still a 12, it's just a bit easier for him.
Mike Doyle called it 14.b, so it's not that easy. Doyle is pretty good.
bitch you can't send it