END of CONTROVERSY. Thomas L. Jennings vs Paul Bogle.

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
    @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +147

    Thank you for watching!
    ➡ To support our research and video making - please use Patreon:
    www.patreon.com/jamaicawithirie
    ➡ To learn more about the JENNINGS family - please read this excellent book: "America's First Freedom Rider"
    www.amazon.com/Americas-First-Freedom-Rider-Elizabeth/dp/1493041347

    • @keithcampbell2579
      @keithcampbell2579 11 месяцев назад +6

      Thanks for your help and hardworking vlog, but proud of you in Jamaica 🇯🇲 ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @Stewy-xw9fz
      @Stewy-xw9fz 11 месяцев назад +4

      Paul Bogle took this photo at the same studio as George Washington Gordon. If you locate George Washington Gordon picture, you will know the studio because it’s written on his picture.

    • @normanhenderson7300
      @normanhenderson7300 11 месяцев назад +3

      I saw that picture on someone's cellphone a black person he was. He did not know who it was. I went to school in Jamaica and used a textbook, showing that picture along with the other so called heroes of Jamaica. Well Marcus Mosiah Garvey is tops in my book.

    • @fanshawcoke764
      @fanshawcoke764 11 месяцев назад +2

      😅

    • @indextreknet7205
      @indextreknet7205 11 месяцев назад +7

      Excellent journalistic work!! Wow!!! You have me glued to the monitor!

  • @mekhalia
    @mekhalia 11 месяцев назад +597

    As a Jamaican, I thank you immensely for clearing this up. Thought the government would have tried to clear up the misinformation but they're too busy with nothing. I appreciate you for doing such intense research and bringing the truth to life.

    • @JW-ux4ey
      @JW-ux4ey 11 месяцев назад +28

      The government is no historian. That's why she is doing it. Would you like the governement to use taxpayers money to employ a researcher to fund such a research? If it did, would you be comfortable with that? This should be the work of a historian. Besides, that's why they have a national library with archives with historian documents.

    • @mekhalia
      @mekhalia 11 месяцев назад +52

      @@JW-ux4ey yes, the government should use taxpayers money to clear up this NATIONAL issue because they use taxpayers money to do menial, unnecessary nonsense. Moreover, majority of the information she provided came from OUR national archives.

    • @JW-ux4ey
      @JW-ux4ey 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@mekhalia hence forth anyone can do it. The newspaper did it also. How did that go over with the Americans?

    • @mikmowmil
      @mikmowmil 11 месяцев назад

      Why would the government clair it up? It's not Thomas Jennings, and it can not be 100% confirmed as Paul Bogle. The government knows it would open a can of worms.

    • @tutnine-dd3cu
      @tutnine-dd3cu 11 месяцев назад

      You are not Jamaican stop the cap u wierdo

  • @jadeemh.1663
    @jadeemh.1663 11 месяцев назад +393

    One can’t help but admire the meticulous work put into this video. Irina you are definitely a standout in Jamaican journalism.

    • @christinewalker1680
      @christinewalker1680 11 месяцев назад +8

      So true. Makes me more proud to be Jamaican

    • @christinewalker1680
      @christinewalker1680 11 месяцев назад +6

      Thanks for the historical contents you provide. I am still learning about my beautiful country

  • @Ahmiseysoh75
    @Ahmiseysoh75 11 месяцев назад +182

    The Americans should also thank Irina for researching Thomas Jennings and educating the world about his life, work and family.

    • @kurzeful
      @kurzeful 11 месяцев назад +7

      🤣 I agree 100%. No free work around here.

    • @mikegreen8938
      @mikegreen8938 11 месяцев назад +5

      Thomas Jennings is one of many black Americans that have had innovations and creations across America. Thank her for what? You typed this like as if everyone is clueless lol

    • @robertgrant5372
      @robertgrant5372 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@mikegreen8938there you go with that high and mighty attitude, humble yourself

    • @ladytreasure8208
      @ladytreasure8208 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@mikegreen8938 did you not watch the video? She highlighted alot of inaccuracies not only about Paul Bogle but about Jennings.

    • @josefelite7013
      @josefelite7013 10 месяцев назад

      @@mikegreen8938you’re the reason the world hates Americans, coming from a black American smh

  • @dminzie
    @dminzie 11 месяцев назад +55

    I now get pissed watching the local news channel… You are the gold standard for investigative journalism. Thanks.

  • @carlaj4175
    @carlaj4175 11 месяцев назад +312

    In a world of misinformation and mistrust, you did a great job with this story. Love your work.

    • @siversurfern1
      @siversurfern1 11 месяцев назад

      Maybe so, but she said Paul Bogle fought for qoute "fair treatment of all Jamaicans" which definitely incorrect. Don't believe me then read Paul Bogles book. Yes he wrote and was calling to arms all black people in the spectrum of who know today as black people. Not sure if he also included mixed race, mulatto or whatever they tended to call children born to the slave owner or white overseers. Remember Bogle lived after the freeing of black slaves and there was a pronounced cast system. Remember a lot Indians and Pakistanes wirked in the coloniall administrational systemy of commerce. Here's a qoute from his book "Skin For Skin". "Every black man must turn out at once, for the oppression is too great; the white people are now cleaning up they guns for us”. Now correct me please if I'm wrong.

    • @Tropicaya
      @Tropicaya 11 месяцев назад

      That guy she was talking to, Jerry was using a GREEN SCREEN.
      All smoke and mirrors. All lies.

    • @derrickglass4183
      @derrickglass4183 10 месяцев назад

      I don't give a damn about Jamaican or Jamaica

    • @NewaccountNumber
      @NewaccountNumber 10 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@derrickglass4183your comment dont make sense.

    • @GwendolynWilliams-e1m
      @GwendolynWilliams-e1m 10 месяцев назад

      Yet you click and post here/ how dumbfounded are you
      ​@@derrickglass4183

  • @Selfullme
    @Selfullme 11 месяцев назад +79

    I'm Jamaican so I'm definitely grateful for you to clear this up and preserve our history. I'm also happy that you exposed how great and important Mr. Jennings is. He is definitely much more phenomenal than Americans have been giving him credit

    • @inmythoughts718
      @inmythoughts718 7 месяцев назад

      Because a white woman says its soooooo... that's is truth.. we just don't know - How is she preserving our history, whites have destroyed our history

    • @vicksie1010
      @vicksie1010 28 дней назад

      Facts🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

  • @jackochan
    @jackochan 11 месяцев назад +195

    You need an award for journalism and an Order of Distinction from the Jamaican Government

    • @LookingupinJA
      @LookingupinJA 11 месяцев назад +9

      Please write a letter requesting this

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@LookingupinJA For what? The Philosophy and Opinions of Marcus Mosiah Garvey is not even required reading in the high schools of Jamaica and you want to bestow her with an order of distinction for her elementary research on Mr. Jennings. CHO!

    • @LookingupinJA
      @LookingupinJA 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@ColtanFree Therefore, YOU could write a letter requesting same….on a side note : i teach Marcus Garvey at the Primary level and I use that book as a resource book to give examples of his teachings to my students.

    • @LookingupinJA
      @LookingupinJA 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@ColtanFree her getting an award is certainly not for this research but her work on a whole…..

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@LookingupinJA And you still have a job? You're engaging in subversive teaching mon. Did they lift the ban on Walter Rodney's work yet? 🤫

  • @Ahmiseysoh75
    @Ahmiseysoh75 11 месяцев назад +44

    Irina, not only are you an excellent journalist but you are a meticulous researcher. As Jamaican living in the diaspora I do so appreciate your channel. May you one day be rewarded for your hard work. God Bless you🙏🏽

    • @cinnamonstar808
      @cinnamonstar808 11 месяцев назад

      no she isnt How come she doesnt know both groups are mostly BLACK native Europeans? if you see "X" like this🇯🇲 and stars and bars like this -🇺🇸 = its black Europeans
      She just move to go live with her former masters ____🤴🏼 🤴🏽 🤴🏾 🤴🏿 👸🏽 👸🏾
      THE REASON WHY EUROPE an NORTH AFRICA became white is because they all took Ukraine wives.
      Ukraine women are the ones who open the door to upward mobility in Europe. because i twas a closed society. The marriage is what allow white inside those castles.
      You need to understand why 🇺🇦 Ukraine is important to the white identity in Europe.
      These 2 [🇮🇪 🇷🇺Russia are hardcore "gatekeepers for the old world power " and the flank the European continent. Scandinavian + Poland are at the top still holding court.
      if they are not in NATO : they are still holding court. 🤙🏾 🤙🏿 its the same whites America banned from immigrating in the 17ths century. they still bend the knee to black rule in Europe.
      in the end its not a thief : ✦ ✧ they are one of the same. and America knows this
      The Jamaican accent like the Gullah from North Carolina is from Britannia.
      Paul Bogle learned African language when the Africans were brought into Jamaica.
      🤴🏽👸🏾 💬 "bend the knee" The high lords of Europe became the slaves. Their own serfs gave them back their slave name. new world, new rulers.
      karma 💅🏾
      dont wait on her to KNOW your history; look it up yourself.
      you and black Americans are in a diaspora. See Dr Marie Charles who is unearthing all of Europe's real history.
      **THIS IS WHY YOUR JAMAICAN ACCENT IS NO WHERE IN AFRICA.
      GB is obsessed with Jamaica and the Bahamas because all of the 🤴🏾 🤴🏿 👸🏽 👸🏾true high borns and royal bloodline where dropped off their 1st. 100% of Montserrat is native Irish.
      the white german: who are loyal to QUeen Charlotte family in German: they got dropped off in Jamaica with you
      the white irish, the white scottish and everyone from wales ; also go dropped off int he new world. the rest they dump in Sierra leone.
      Wales is kin to yoruban + Ibo: they are the dragons of the 🐲east [China] and the 🐲west Wales
      🇳🇬when you see Nigerians in UK or China they are going back to their old kingdoms
      When you see Caribbean people in the UK they are going back home.
      when you see the moors in Europe ; they went their to DEFEND 🦁👑] [🏰👑] 🦄 🐲] all of these noble families that rule that land.
      because they made a pack in ancient Egypt. all the black royals are in a pack. Hawaiian royals wrote to Africa when they got invaded.
      America knows they all know each other. because that is the old world power they are fighting.
      ***************** This photo is nothing. this is petty when they are living in your damn castles and pretending to be you ************ and keeping your surnames andyour language and your culture as theirs.
      WAKE UP

  • @CondiBeans
    @CondiBeans 11 месяцев назад +138

    As an African American I truly appreciate you for posting this truth and appreciate your research. Thank you very much.

    • @cinnamonstar808
      @cinnamonstar808 11 месяцев назад +3

      they are the same people: and that is what you should leave with
      both have the same DNA and same family tree.

    • @MrJamChin
      @MrJamChin 11 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@cinnamonstar808wtf are you talking about, did you go to school for fun?

    • @CondiBeans
      @CondiBeans 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrJamChin I don't understand your question

    • @roylle6346
      @roylle6346 11 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂​@@MrJamChin

    • @ivovi8061
      @ivovi8061 10 месяцев назад +1

      ● TIME WASTING ●
      *Yawdman dem naw reed nutten dred*
      》Do a lewd immoral song & dey mite reeSawch.
      Sign: Yuh Zeet😢

  • @racyahnadab5589
    @racyahnadab5589 11 месяцев назад +51

    We are so grateful for this type of unbiased journalism that awakes the minds of our ppl. We truly appreciate your dedication to unravel and any misconception that is out there about any story. I truly believe that those of us that are not patrons and are dedicated subscribers to press the like button and share this video so that the message can quickly spread and Irene can be compensated. This type of work also need to be highlighted on our TV stations here in Jamaica so that the diaspora can get to know about Irene. Thank you for choosing 🇯🇲

  • @jasoncummings7052
    @jasoncummings7052 11 месяцев назад +116

    Who wants to share with me and raise a 1000 cheers for this outstanding level of research and well presented material for the benefit of the Jamaica people and others who shares their interests.

  • @peteryoung1461
    @peteryoung1461 11 месяцев назад +35

    My children and I are absolutely indebted to you, Irina, for your tenacity and commitment to clarify this issue; at least for clarifying that Jamaica did not plagiarize Thomas Jennings' photo and claim it to be that of our national hero, Paul Bogle.

    • @marjiecoleman5002
      @marjiecoleman5002 2 месяца назад +1

      @peteryoung1461 In most things Jamaicans do tend to try and claim without doing full and proper research, smh

    • @Rose-d1m
      @Rose-d1m 2 месяца назад

      Maybe you and your children should incorporate critical thinking in your lives and quit depending on others you clearly believe are superior.

  • @janicemorris3444
    @janicemorris3444 11 месяцев назад +109

    I am so ashamed to think that some Jamaicans would even consider that the government was lying to us in the use of that Paul Bogle picture thinking that the America picture was correct. it goes to show you how much we can disregard our own value thinking that anything foreign is always better. I thought by now Jamaicans would have had more sense than that.

    • @Ahmiseysoh75
      @Ahmiseysoh75 11 месяцев назад +13

      Yes, I agree. But the silence from the Jamaican government was really disturbing to me. I just wanted to hear something from the ministry of culture or somebody. They need to publicly thank Irina for doing this research.

    • @janicemorris3444
      @janicemorris3444 11 месяцев назад

      @Ahmiseysoh75 I understand, but most of them from both parties are bonehead. They are not concerned about history, only how to enrich themselves and hold power.

    • @TAITRAVELVLOGS
      @TAITRAVELVLOGS 11 месяцев назад +5

      Silence is the best weapon if they know it’s true they don’t need to clear nothing up. That’s like a little baby trying to pick a fight with your grown ass and you hitting the baby back 😂. They have better things to worry about than a picture

    • @jadenromell1458
      @jadenromell1458 11 месяцев назад +8

      ⁠@@TAITRAVELVLOGSyh but keeping silent won’t really help…that would just lead to more misinformation being spread. Thank god for Irene

    • @TAITRAVELVLOGS
      @TAITRAVELVLOGS 11 месяцев назад

      @@jadenromell1458 that’s why it needs to be put out in the public eyes, that the states and uk lied on him and trumped up fake charges to lock him up to silence him because of his vision and impact on black people at that time. That person is just talking nonsense because most people that aren’t Jamaicans and even Jamaicans believe these accusations against him. Just a few people on the internet that’s telling the truth about what really happened which is why they are trying to get him pardon by Biden. They don’t have these things in Jamaica history books. Just like how they took Paul bogle picture and says it someone else, same thing they did Marcus but it’s the CIA/FBI which was the FBI first black agent that sold Marcus and the black people progress out which he was up against not bloggers.

  • @surafelalemu7098
    @surafelalemu7098 11 месяцев назад +22

    It is a random RUclips video for me, I'm not Jamaican or American, but I'm completely amazed by your work of journalism and mainstream quality presentation. Well done, Irina

  • @ricardohenry8306
    @ricardohenry8306 11 месяцев назад +106

    THANK YOU Irina and for all you do for our Country and our Culture ❤

  • @l_st_a_johnson2610
    @l_st_a_johnson2610 11 месяцев назад +23

    Thank you, Irena for clearing this up. Because, as a jamaican living overseas, and to see this, my blood was boiling what people would do for a buck.

  • @russellt1925
    @russellt1925 11 месяцев назад +59

    This is journalism, job well done, much respect

  • @stevereid5615
    @stevereid5615 11 месяцев назад +18

    Happy for the research. So many people were saying the US was right and Jamaica wrong

    • @vicksie1010
      @vicksie1010 28 дней назад

      They were and are WRONG.
      Silence can mean consent
      NONE excluded .

  • @RElse-fu2or
    @RElse-fu2or 11 месяцев назад +92

    Your dedication to truth and thoroughness minus the sensationalization that drives other bloggers of Jamaican contents make you a standout among many. Your work on behalf of all fair-minded Jamaicans has only just began. Keep up the good job, Jamaica needs you!

  • @tamarafrancisriley-dunn4485
    @tamarafrancisriley-dunn4485 11 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you so much for this! We Jamaicans must do something about this!

    • @Tropicaya
      @Tropicaya 11 месяцев назад

      Like what?

    • @kurzeful
      @kurzeful 11 месяцев назад +1

      Like a national award or something

  • @lsalmon907
    @lsalmon907 11 месяцев назад +255

    Thanks Irina, your research into the Jamaican culture and history is inspiring to me a Jamaican. Honestly, I am feeling so worthy for the first time in my life. The negative reports above slavery and everything else about my people was a heavy burden on my psyche for many years. Your body of work is taken seriously by EVERYONE. ❤

    • @sharonfearon3263
      @sharonfearon3263 11 месяцев назад +9

      Indeed

    • @user-barrcnslt
      @user-barrcnslt 11 месяцев назад +11

      Are you afraid to know your history before slavery that you should be proud?

    • @afiaalkebulanfood528
      @afiaalkebulanfood528 11 месяцев назад +11

      Like the man says Check your history it will show. ... our history did not start with slavery. Without going too deep. One can start at 332 BCE. One love.

    • @user-barrcnslt
      @user-barrcnslt 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@afiaalkebulanfood528 Start at 10,000 BC because it starts before 300,000 B.C. RastafarI!

    • @Lifeisinside
      @Lifeisinside 11 месяцев назад +3

      Smmfh

  • @crumble7598
    @crumble7598 11 месяцев назад +68

    You are more Jamaican than me who was born and raised here 😂. Excellent research, I'm truly impressed. I smell another viral video.... Gonna share this now

    • @annmariebusu9924
      @annmariebusu9924 11 месяцев назад +14

      She is not more Jamaican she is a better researcher than you. She is a journalist.

    • @Fari-100
      @Fari-100 11 месяцев назад +2

      Stop telling her that, wtbc 😖

    • @ivovi8061
      @ivovi8061 10 месяцев назад

      ● TIME WASTING ●
      *Yawdman dem naw reed nutten dred*
      》Do a lewd immoral song & dey mite reeSawch.
      Sign: Yuh Zeet😢

    • @marjiecoleman5002
      @marjiecoleman5002 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@ivovi8061 Yessss that is Exactly true😅😅😅😅

    • @gabbyeden5741
      @gabbyeden5741 2 месяца назад +1

      Identity theft an American trademark 😂

  • @RuelBrown-r3g
    @RuelBrown-r3g Месяц назад +2

    I not only salute you with heartfelt thanks of gratitude , but I must tell you that this is the first time that I've ever seen or heard you along with the works that you have done and continue to do in re: of our history...and I sincerely love you for your great contribution...considering the fact that you came here all the way from Ukraine. ONE LOVE my UKRAINIAN SISTAH....again I say to you...ONE LOVE ❤😊😊

  • @derrhewitt
    @derrhewitt 11 месяцев назад +76

    Thanks again Irene for doing a fantastic job. As a black man and a school teacher I always get annoyed with "copy and paste" or slapped any picture beside a written assignment. Those who have written on black history constantly made this error; mixing up all sorts of pictures, arts, and portraits in their works. I am annoyed.

    • @sharonfearon3263
      @sharonfearon3263 11 месяцев назад +3

      Plagiarism……. .

    • @treetop1491
      @treetop1491 11 месяцев назад +2

      Black American History

    • @mikegreen8938
      @mikegreen8938 11 месяцев назад

      You claim to be a black man and a teacher, then you should know how these mix ups happen. Some are innocuous and some is intentional. What exactly are you doing to correct it Mr. Annoyed...

    • @Zimaala
      @Zimaala 10 месяцев назад

      Very intentional in the continuing confusion of one history and identity.

    • @marjiecoleman5002
      @marjiecoleman5002 2 месяца назад

      So true.

  • @doreenmorgan7000
    @doreenmorgan7000 11 месяцев назад +25

    Irena, maximum respect. Ukraine's loss is Jamaica's gain. Please stay with us. We need you.

    • @Rose-d1m
      @Rose-d1m 2 месяца назад

      Worthless mindset. No wonder you shall forever be under foot. Her work is what journalism is about, but because you people are lazy and backwards in thought, you believe this is phenomenal. Smh. A people who are use to NOTHING is impressed by anything.

  • @lamindy
    @lamindy 11 месяцев назад +66

    Brilliant work Irena (as usual)! How have you not yet been given a medal of honour by Jamaica!? I feel compelled to research the process of adding someone to that list because you certainly deserve an award for all the good that you have done to bring cultural awareness to a very wide audience.

    • @icclc-fe3sy
      @icclc-fe3sy 11 месяцев назад +4

      Indeed! I love that she ( Irena) gives a positive contribution to my country #Jamaica. A worthy resident
      #JamGirl1

    • @mystic7579
      @mystic7579 11 месяцев назад +4

      Why should she be given a Medal of Honor by Jamaica?!

    • @lamindy
      @lamindy 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@mystic7579 if you have to ask that question then I won’t waste my time telling you the obvious! Show us what YOU have done for Jamaica!

    • @Rose-d1m
      @Rose-d1m 2 месяца назад

      You mean a medal for doing what you dunce sl@ves can never do? Disgusting.

  • @jadinebullock5947
    @jadinebullock5947 11 месяцев назад +9

    Thank you so much for your thoroughness in clearing up this situation. You are doing superb journalism. We, Jamaicans, appreciate you.

  • @newtings7063
    @newtings7063 11 месяцев назад +34

    Great research ,I was wondering why the Jamaica Govt was not rebutting this foolishness..Thank you .

    • @craigmillington1258
      @craigmillington1258 11 месяцев назад

      They can't because those people are like thier slave master

    • @chev1450
      @chev1450 10 месяцев назад +1

      If it ain’t making them money they don’t care

    • @NewaccountNumber
      @NewaccountNumber 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@chev1450You're a hypocrite, you are not even subscribed to this channel.

    • @ellieedwards9906
      @ellieedwards9906 10 месяцев назад

      What!!!

    • @Rose-d1m
      @Rose-d1m 2 месяца назад

      The government is filled with DUNCE people,. How can they give a rebuttal to what they don't know?

  • @PC-zg3eo
    @PC-zg3eo 11 месяцев назад +19

    What a great contribution you have made to our historical data. I do hope you’ll be able to glean more information from your audience and that you’ll be recognized for your body of work.

  • @sharonlewis5966
    @sharonlewis5966 11 месяцев назад +27

    Thanks for sharing. I live in Atlanta Ga and went to a black museum and saw this same photo of Paul Bogle and was confused because it was labeled Thomas Jennings. Thanks for clearing this.

  • @Jessdel2012
    @Jessdel2012 11 месяцев назад +6

    WOW. As a researcher, I applaud your thoroughness. I often wonder about this. Thank you so much.

  • @kivi2059
    @kivi2059 11 месяцев назад +34

    Why do I smile from ear to ear watching your contents? I usually find anything remotely close to a documentary, the least bit entertaining, but not when you do it. 😂 I respect your thoroughness and how you go about all your researches and I especially love that it is all about Jamaica 😊. I remember being sent this controversy recently by my sister who is living in America, and I was telling her I never believe anything on the internet especially if it's controversial because by my nature I would want to do some extensive research myself the garner my own opinion. Here we are today with Irena, making it easy for us😂😂😂 Thank you. What a truth-seeker you are.

  • @JohnJohn-rz7tn
    @JohnJohn-rz7tn 11 месяцев назад +75

    The same way ,they take Paul Bogles image, and turn him into the laundromat man, they take Marcus Garvey character and turn him into a villain.

    • @sashaeltekeh2618
      @sashaeltekeh2618 11 месяцев назад

      African Americans were jealous of the influence and power Mr. Garvey had and it still shows in all the so called documentary they put out about him. mi nah figet how dem betray Garvey

    • @christopherstephens1992
      @christopherstephens1992 11 месяцев назад

      That always been the mindset of the white men anypart of the world they are.

    • @andrenefinn704
      @andrenefinn704 10 месяцев назад +4

      Bingo

    • @Jader83
      @Jader83 10 месяцев назад +4

      I remember and was so upset. Disney did it in an episode of the "Proud Family"

    • @mellads86
      @mellads86 7 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂

  • @marlongibson9076
    @marlongibson9076 9 месяцев назад +1

    As a very proud jamaican living in the United states I would love to take this opportunity to thank you for the immensely important work that you've embarked on which is to shine a bright light on our culture, our history our people and who we truly are. You may have been born in Ukraine but my dear you are a jamaican and you'll continue to have our support and our love. Please continue the good work - IRIE LOVE

  • @ma001eb
    @ma001eb 11 месяцев назад +22

    This really goes to show the danger (of faux news‼️), and the impact ❤

  • @triciarichards8038
    @triciarichards8038 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you Irina for putting out the correct information for our Jamaican history and misinformation and identity of our National hero Paul Bogle. Irina big up your nice clean self. Much respect.

  • @ronisley3001
    @ronisley3001 11 месяцев назад +17

    As someone who has both black american n jamaican parentage i find this video very informative

  • @Almina1120
    @Almina1120 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hello Irina has a Jamaican living abroad i appreciate your research and proof about the photo. I literally got into a argument on Facebook with a black American blog about them stealing our Jamaican national hero's image and they tried to argue with me and said all kind of false information about the image. So thank you so much.

  • @hamil73brenda15
    @hamil73brenda15 11 месяцев назад +43

    This shows the importance of being responsible when giving or passing information.

  • @stephencoates1771
    @stephencoates1771 11 месяцев назад +20

    This deserves to be on mainstream TV. Excellent research work!

  • @Porscheman1
    @Porscheman1 11 месяцев назад +149

    The amount of research work, history and culture that you bring to the rest of the world about beautiful Jamaica, is simply amazing! I have always said that you do more for Jamaican Tourism, than the Gov't of Jamaica. Thank you for all that you do! Much Love, Ocho Rios/Toronto Mike!

    • @doreenwilliams2018
      @doreenwilliams2018 11 месяцев назад +8

      Journalists in Jamaica is lazy !

    • @gloriarobinson1869
      @gloriarobinson1869 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@doreenwilliams2018 not only lazy, but incompetent, not able to step up and represent their people and country in a positive way. One cannot be a Journalist and bow to outside forces, and have pride in self.

    • @doreenmorgan7000
      @doreenmorgan7000 11 месяцев назад +8

      I totally agree with you about Irena's contribution to tourism and believe she should be given a national award. So, Mr. Tourism Minister, please take note and offer Irena's name for a national award.

    • @racheljones4561
      @racheljones4561 10 месяцев назад

      you are crazy. nobody works harder than Ed bartlette.

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@doreenwilliams2018 Not only the Journalist. Its the entire educational system in Jamaica that mis-educates and does not value history.

  • @carlajordon4540
    @carlajordon4540 11 месяцев назад +10

    As a Jamaican an almost 60 years,, AS A CHILD WE KNOW THIS PHOTO AS PAUL BOGLE, Jamaican national HERO

    • @marjiecoleman5002
      @marjiecoleman5002 2 месяца назад

      Can't always believe everything you hear, need to do your own investigation.

  • @hyacinthrussell3756
    @hyacinthrussell3756 11 месяцев назад +25

    Yes yes the truth must be told

  • @jujuray913
    @jujuray913 11 месяцев назад +7

    Irina, your passion and committment to truth and education is intriguing. I am always informed and entertained by your content. We are blessed to have you in Jamaica. One love❤

  • @valciak1qyriley136
    @valciak1qyriley136 11 месяцев назад +32

    Thanks Irina, not just for this well researched expose but for all the wonderful work you have been doing regarding Jamaica and the many reasons we have to be proud as Jamaicans. Bless you.

  • @misslou3624
    @misslou3624 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this video. God sent you for Jamaica people. I hope someone is sued for misrepresenting Paul Bogle

  • @8js4s10
    @8js4s10 11 месяцев назад +11

    I really appreciate this lady's work and time she devoted to bring forth this clarification to this story .

  • @patriciareynolds7921
    @patriciareynolds7921 11 месяцев назад +14

    I love you just like how you ♥️ my country Jamaica 🇯🇲

  • @heatherlawson1450
    @heatherlawson1450 11 месяцев назад +8

    I truly appreciate all the hard work you put in to inform and educate all , keep up the fantastic job 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @rohanstephenson5642
    @rohanstephenson5642 11 месяцев назад +22

    Wow amazing Job Irina, even us as Jamaicans didn't even know a lot of what you shared in this video, hats off to you my sister.

    • @roylle6346
      @roylle6346 11 месяцев назад +1

      I just knew in my guts it was Paul bogle 😂

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 10 месяцев назад

      The reason is that the educational system tun we inna fool. History is not valued. Stop talk bout dem ole time sumhing dem seh. CHO!

  • @wheeliewellington1138
    @wheeliewellington1138 11 месяцев назад +4

    Really appreciate the clarity. As Jamaicans we need to be more interested in our history & always do our best to preserve it...thanks a lot

  • @stevenmclean2755
    @stevenmclean2755 11 месяцев назад +56

    Man this is groundbreaking stuff. You're like a modern-day Frank C. Cundall, both not originally from Jamaica, yet both of you have made significant contributions to uncovering the history of the land of my birth. I only wished more of my country men and women would have that same deep appreciation for our rich history. Thanks

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +15

      Thank you. I've found some really good works by the Jamaican historians and other Jamaican academics, it's just that they are not media people, so we don't see them much. However, I am hoping to include them in the full documentary on Paul Bogle!

    • @sadikihall4466
      @sadikihall4466 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@JAMAICAWITHIRIEWhen will this full documentary be available? Also did you hear some people claiming to be Jennings Family were planning to sue the Jamaican Government for the picture?

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@sadikihall4466 I'm hoping to finish the research in 2024 and publish the documentary then. Aiming for October 2024, but we'll see how the research goes. As for the Jennings family - these claims are false, as there are no members of Jennings family, no descendants survived, so the information about them planning to do anything cannot be true.

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 10 месяцев назад

      You all need to begin by correcting the myth about Queen Nanny...She was not a Jamaican. She was born in West Africa . Stop claiming her as a Jamaican. CHO!

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ColtanFree A lot of Jamaicans are the descendants of Africans. At the time when Queen Nanny lived there was no country called "Jamaica", yet she lived and operated on the island that is called Jamaica today and her descendants also lived in Jamaica. If Queen Nanny and other people who came or were forcefully brought to Jamaica are not Jamaicans, who is then?

  • @MarB26
    @MarB26 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you!! As a born jamaican I've had countless arguments with my American friends about this photo, now dem ca chat to me!!

  • @vaneitaadams4790
    @vaneitaadams4790 11 месяцев назад +17

    Wow Irina I was mesmerized by your video. How dare anyone want to steal our picture of our Paul Bogle. You did an amazing job with this video. Thank you.❤

    • @berthonpowell7366
      @berthonpowell7366 11 месяцев назад

      They stole us from Africa so.....

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 10 месяцев назад

      Hypocrites.....Yuh all value a picture but nuh tek heed to the struggle of Paul Bogle. The same system of oppression and exploitation still exist inna Jamaica. CHO!

  • @carlsmith4815
    @carlsmith4815 10 месяцев назад +3

    I appreciate your effort in bringing this truth to everyone's attention. The true story has allowed our Hero Paul Bogle 's 29:17 image to shown around the world for his greatness

  • @kattahb4103
    @kattahb4103 11 месяцев назад +52

    This NEEDED to be researched and addressed!❤

  • @chicacaribe1587
    @chicacaribe1587 11 месяцев назад +5

    Impressive investigative journalism Irina! Well done, and thank you! 👏🏽

  • @granvillejohnson5842
    @granvillejohnson5842 11 месяцев назад +24

    Hi Irena, thank you for yet another great informative video. This video was very informative for me and I sincerely hope that the controversy of this photograph will be settled soon. I did know about this person Thomas Jennings. I thank you for enlightening me and I am sure millions more. I feel this is not the end of this story with you, so I am looking forward to any updates you may have in the future. As a Jamaican, I am very proud of you for the great things you are doing in Jamaica. Take care.

  • @Weislawa
    @Weislawa 11 месяцев назад +5

    Irinaaaaaahhhhh. You did it Again!!! Thanks as always for your Brilliant work and Research!!! Big up the Kingston Library! Big Up the lady there that helped you with the research. Any and Everyone that did. Period! It's rare that I applaud for a video, solely by myself. This one I did! Big Up yuhself Irina! If mi love yuh one more time 😘💗

  • @dmac3053
    @dmac3053 11 месяцев назад +18

    Well done Irina, hats off to you. As a student of history this video is not only important but very special . You continue to do what others fail to, you are simply amazing 👏🏿 ❤️.

  • @shania784
    @shania784 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm really appreciative of the work you have done. I myself have seen this photo of Thomas Jennings as a Paul Bogle and was wondering why is this so, but now I can understand the fullness of the situation. Thank you for going the extra mile in giving Jamaica a closure on this.

  • @sharonfearon3263
    @sharonfearon3263 11 месяцев назад +12

    Irina Irina. Great researcher. You are phenomenal. You left no stone unturned. Thank you for restoring our National hero. Paul Bogle’s picture authenticity. A lot of people think of Jamaica as a third world country. They forget that this was a British colony and that things like photography and indoor water and electricity was present in Jamaica ages ago. Even though these things wet for the rich only it was there

  • @kimerriobaugh77
    @kimerriobaugh77 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you so much, this video is well needed. I hope we finally get to verify this photo.... things is getting more interesting.
    I love your style of journalism

  • @Jay10-rf3uh
    @Jay10-rf3uh 11 месяцев назад +14

    I hope this goes viral. Thank you for your thorough research Irina.

  • @Cleo1John
    @Cleo1John 11 месяцев назад +3

    Very interesting. I’ve just sent this video to a researcher to watch. It’s be great to get to the bottom of the picture. Respect Jamaica

  • @Blacobee
    @Blacobee 11 месяцев назад +14

    Thank you Irie for ur outstanding and remarkable research in cleaning up this controversy. U r one the best in ur field and u have opened the eyes of many Jamaicans with ur brilliant work. As Jamaicans, we r lucky to have u. Nuff thanks and Blessings!

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much for all the support! ❤

  • @SAG1028
    @SAG1028 11 месяцев назад +4

    Irie thank you for doing in-depth research and ultimately revealing the truth to everyone. As Jamaicans we appreciate your efforts.

  • @bamartist4437
    @bamartist4437 11 месяцев назад +7

    I love your work. I am a Jamaican born. now living in the beautiful Ireland. and I am very happy that you dig deep and found out the real history about our Jamaican Paul Bogle. Fare play to you. I follow your channel a lot. Keep up the good work.

  • @brotherbbyron
    @brotherbbyron 11 месяцев назад +2

    Irina irie Jamaica, you are a Star 🌟 to Jamaica and Jamaicans in your wonderful works you are doing for Jamaica. Thanks for bringing the truth about the photo of Paul Bogle

  • @nelliecurrie5625
    @nelliecurrie5625 11 месяцев назад +8

    Again I was glued to the screen stopping to replay at points. Big thank you for your research into this National hero. It answered quite a bit but there are still unanswered questions. There's no doubt. This is not Thomas Jennings!

  • @annettejarrett7505
    @annettejarrett7505 11 месяцев назад +9

    Hi Irena. You did an awesome job! This was informative and outstanding. I love history and began researching my family history.about five years ago.

    • @berthonpowell7366
      @berthonpowell7366 11 месяцев назад

      St James Parish??
      Who is Jarrett Park named after??
      There is music in your bloodline smile😊

  • @chayden1402
    @chayden1402 11 месяцев назад +8

    Wow you are a "BEAST" when it comes too journalism 👏 👏🏽👍🏾my goodness why hasn't the jamaican government given you a award yet. Excellent job

  • @chantalprendergast6298
    @chantalprendergast6298 11 месяцев назад +3

    This was very good research and delivery. I hope your viewers will be able to help authenticate the photo

  • @chestermorris1911
    @chestermorris1911 11 месяцев назад +9

    outstanding piece, thanks so much for shedding light on this subject. As a Jamaican I grew up believing that the picture was of Paul Bogle. Thanks for clarifying the circumstances of the controversy around it being displayed as Mr. Jenning as well. Well done.

  • @BillyOsborne-z9y
    @BillyOsborne-z9y 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for this, Irina. I know that real effort went into this work. I appreciate you.

  • @soniastewart7696
    @soniastewart7696 11 месяцев назад +16

    Thank you, Irina, for clearing up this cloud of doubt that has been lingering over this story of Paul Bogle and Mr.Jennings.we truly appreciate your work

    • @mariotater1310
      @mariotater1310 11 месяцев назад

      That is not Paul boggle sorry in a tailored suit with gold watch in suit think
      Noway

  • @gfs45
    @gfs45 11 месяцев назад +5

    Well researched, thorough and fascinating. The search continues. We must verify this photograph. Thank you for an excellent documentary Irina. This should be on every TV station in Jamaica and should go international as well. I will be sharing to my facebook and Linked in pages.

  • @troymckenzie8361
    @troymckenzie8361 11 месяцев назад +9

    IRIE, you are a great resident of our beloved homeland Jamaica

  • @josephroach
    @josephroach 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for clearing this up. I’m surprised NO ONE in the US has pulled this misinformation.

  • @jentrelyfrankson6829
    @jentrelyfrankson6829 11 месяцев назад +25

    We need hold America accountable and Jamaica government suck up everything American do wrong to our culture. An it’s not the first things like this going on.

    • @phyllisthompson4207
      @phyllisthompson4207 11 месяцев назад +3

      I think this is why this research is done to clarify! If people or Government “ suck up” then what would be the purpose of this!!

    • @sarahcovintong1699
      @sarahcovintong1699 Месяц назад

      🤨it could be an honest mistake just getting blowed up you have a lot of blacks American history stuff that you trying to turn around and make it about everybody know black American paid the price for a lot of people from other countries to come here but do we get credit for it no we don't as black Americans 🇺🇲❣️✅💯🤔 so we leave that alone why can't you they don't come over here and thank us been living off the glory we pay the price we got the hoses put on us do they come and talk about that story know they don't airtime to find one little wrong thing to play it to the hilt you play it to the hilt and you want to blow it out of proportion one little incident then you come and try to Rob us of our black history

  • @EmmyMzz
    @EmmyMzz 11 месяцев назад +3

    I thoroughly enjoyed this video!! Thanks for clearing it up for those who don't know. I was always peeved by seeing this picture being misrepresented. Keep it up!!!!

  • @howardbjackson
    @howardbjackson 11 месяцев назад +17

    Fantastic work! I had no idea this kind of forensic work was possible. Thank you so much for investing the time into researching this issue.

  • @derikirie9853
    @derikirie9853 11 месяцев назад +5

    Has a Jamaican I was feeling down about this mix up with our national hero thanks a million for the clarification.

  • @nevamadourie8791
    @nevamadourie8791 11 месяцев назад +13

    Thanks much for the effort you put into this research. I was greatly disturbed when I saw the video about Jennings a few years ago, so hat's off to you, for giving clarity ❤

  • @Grenadier1976
    @Grenadier1976 11 месяцев назад +4

    Irina, we are blessed to have you in Jamaica.
    Thank you for another excellent bit of research.

  • @aivaenednew
    @aivaenednew 11 месяцев назад +19

    Irina! I appreciate you for this video! All the work that went into this research to break ground on that photo is phenomenal! Jamaican history is extremely rich and I love that about my country but there was a reason Edna Manley didn’t use the photo for the monument even though she knew about it, I’d also go as far to say there were doubts before the first release of the photo which is the reason for the delay and the fact that the original is now missing is mind blowing to me.
    I do hope you receive responses from others with similar backgrounds in the photos for a follow up. This could just be the pivot needed for future generations learning about the national heroes accurately.

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +7

      Thank you so much for sharing this comment 🙏 Well, I've been actually doing the research on this photo for almost 12 months now. The video here just shows the tip of the iceberg. So far the evidence shows that this photo might be very much connected to Paul Bogle - it's either him or somebody who was close to him or his family. This project is still in progress. Once we finish the research, we'll be making a full documentary about Paul Bogle.

    • @ivovi8061
      @ivovi8061 10 месяцев назад

      ● TIME WASTING ●
      *Yawdman dem naw reed nutten dred*
      》Do a lewd immoral song & dey mite reeSawch.
      Sign: Yuh Zeet😢

  • @oneilhayle359
    @oneilhayle359 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was the first person to bring light to this subject and is glad to see the amount of attention...❤️❤️❤️💯.
    Thank you..

  • @KenChang-i1w
    @KenChang-i1w 11 месяцев назад +15

    Thank you, again Irina, for another Blockbuster documentary and research. You are an asset to all Jamaicans. Well done! I have learned a lot about Jamaica's history. 👍

  • @squadypetez
    @squadypetez 11 месяцев назад +2

    Much respect for putting this controversy to rest, Irina! I truly admire your research acumen! Well done 🎉

  • @orvillebennett5931
    @orvillebennett5931 11 месяцев назад +22

    Wow !! Thank you Irina for the time and effort you input in this detailed research. You have exceeded your already excellent standards with this project. On behalf all our proud Jamaicans, we salute you for your passion, committment and desire to do a deep dive in this matter to find the truth and bring clarity. Thank you. Now, go celebrate by having a wonderful Christmas.

  • @TheSleightDoctor
    @TheSleightDoctor 11 месяцев назад +4

    Reading through all the appreciative comments from Jamaicans on this vid, brought a tear to my eye! You've done a true service with your diligent research in restoring their national history, and I agree with others that you should be bestowed a special honour from the Jamaican government for all this unpaid work.
    That even Jennings' story has been misrepresented and his contributions downplayed in America, is shocking. Thank you for telling this important story.

    • @racheljones4561
      @racheljones4561 10 месяцев назад

      America should thank her. The Jamican goverment had the right information, they have nothing to thank her for.

  • @gloriarobinson1869
    @gloriarobinson1869 11 месяцев назад +7

    Good day Irie, must say when you undertook your" Investigative Journalism Study" you were being prepared by Higher Powers from above, to pursue this work in Jamaica, only, you knew it not then.
    Recently when I saw on the internet a photo of Paul Bogle being circulated from US claiming him to be one Jennings of America, I blinked twice😂😂, exclaiming 'what', 'who', 'noooh way is he an American. Bogles' picture and achievements has been taught to us in School, how is he now being portrayed as an American, but I was confident in myself knowing exactly who he was, so I was not upset. Your thorough research and professionalism brought him back to his rightful place. Thank you for your hard work, and thank God for transporting you to Jamaica to continue in this wonderful work you are doing. Have a happy holiday, you and your family.

  • @thejamaicanorthodoxmission
    @thejamaicanorthodoxmission 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is absolutely the best video addressing the controversial issue surrounding the photo of Jamaica's National Hero, Paul Bogle. It is not only informative but also thought-provoking. A lot of effort was put into thoroughly investigating this matter. Thank you very much. I will be sharing this video. (Moses)

  • @rachelannlowe
    @rachelannlowe 11 месяцев назад +16

    Thanks Irie, you did a wonderful job. I recently met Paul Bogle’s great granddaughter who is a singer from England. Her name is Janet Kay Bogle born of Jamaican parents Clifton and Monica Bogle. She was awarded 2 months ago at an award ceremony in Miramar Florida along with other accomplished Jamaicans, including Rory from the sound system “ Stone Love “ She resembles the photo of who we Jamaicans know as Paul Bogle . I think you should research and contact them for more accurate details. Stay blessed and continue the good work you’re doing for Jamaica 🇯🇲.

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +13

      Thank you for sharing! Kindly note, the living descendants of Paul Bogle cannot possibly have last name Bogle, because all of them are descendants of Paul Bogle's daughter, whose last name via marriage was Clarke. So, if you see a person who has last name Bogle - it's almost guaranteed they are not directly related to Paul Bogle. They might be related to his brother - Moses Bogle or most likely they come from a different line of Bogles.

    • @donnawalker8937
      @donnawalker8937 11 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for clarifying that Irene. People share all kinds of misinformation because they do not know the facts. We are doing research into one branch of our family tree and we have gotten as far back as 1892 and still working through the historical documents. This kind of research does take time

    • @lorrainenelson2484
      @lorrainenelson2484 11 месяцев назад

      Paul Bogle had a son. Janet Kay Bogle is the great great great granddaughter of Paul Bogle.

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +6

      @@lorrainenelson2484 Paul Bogle had 2 children. Cecelia Bogle (born in 1841) and William Bogle (born in 1845). William was hanged in 1865 together with Paul Bogle. However, William had a son, Nathaniel Bogle (grandson of Paul Bogle). However, the only descendant who survived after Nathaniel was Phillip Bogle, who died in 1990s. That's it. No more Bogles from the side of Paul Bogle's son.
      However, Paul Bogles daughter had many descendants, because her son had 13 children, all had last name Clarke. The land that belonged to Paul Bogle still belongs to a person named Felix Clarke, who was the grandson of Paul Bogle. Felix died a long time ago, but the title for the land is still in his name I have the title for his land and I have the original documents from RGD for ALL Paul Bogle's descendants. There are no more living direct descendants of Paul Bogle with last name Bogle. There are lots of people with last name Bogle who came from a different line of Bogles though and also there might be some after Paul Bogle's brother, Moses Bogle.

    • @070707SAM
      @070707SAM 11 месяцев назад +2

      I am impressed with your thorough research. You really are a “irie” journalist. Nuff respect. Keep up the good work.

  • @lucanjam
    @lucanjam 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for your hard work and dedication.This piece is a gem, you are truly an asset to Jamaica .

  • @Melaninlia21
    @Melaninlia21 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m watching this video because my UWI lecturer is using it as part of the course and I must thank you for your easy going explanation!! It will make doing the assignment so much easier! As a Jamaican student I thank you, Ms Irina 🫶🏽🇯🇲

  • @howardjessica7704
    @howardjessica7704 11 месяцев назад +13

    As Bob said, they (Babylon and its children ) are “Confused with Confusion” . We must always stand up for ourselves and to their foolishness while staying out of these lost people’s way, because if, You wrestle with a pig you only end up getting dirty, nobody wins. Amazing amazing job as usual Irina. ❤👏👍

  • @mumtofourhearts
    @mumtofourhearts 2 месяца назад +1

    Your journalism skill is truly magnificent. Thank you for all your research. Jamaica has finally got a professionally qualified journalist.

  • @kingnaldo4058
    @kingnaldo4058 11 месяцев назад +18

    In 2011, I began noticing this picture being associated with the Jennings guy on Facebook posts, which drives me nuts then. I literally got into several arguments defending this pic of Paul Bogle. But I am happy Irine got to the bottom of this nonsense. 👏 👏 👏

    • @JAMAICAWITHIRIE
      @JAMAICAWITHIRIE  11 месяцев назад +10

      Ah, great to hear! Well, I hope you would LOVE this video, as there will be so many more tools to use to defend the image in future :)

    • @tjc2824
      @tjc2824 11 месяцев назад

      Why is she trying to pit us all against each other!!!!! Damn!! What she needs to do is tell everyone who's bringing in all the drugs and guns and how this murder rate is ugenics in action!!
      Love from the north!❤

    • @aaronsteven8961
      @aaronsteven8961 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@tjc2824 ignorance is bliss😢😢😢😢

    • @doreenwilliams2018
      @doreenwilliams2018 11 месяцев назад +1

      Take your meds according to the doctor's orders.

    • @tjc2824
      @tjc2824 11 месяцев назад

      @doreenwilliams2018 You think it's crazy to question why our commuities are flooded with guns and drugs? You'll need more than adhominem attacks for this!