Defending the WORST: Sawk and Throh Origins! | Gnoggin

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  • @gustavju4686
    @gustavju4686 3 года назад +860

    They removed the horns from the two because they didn't want them to resemble the Forces of Nature trio. It was mentioned in the interview which revealed they used to have horns.

    • @adrigl3371
      @adrigl3371 3 года назад +40

      01:59 I guess he was right about that then heh

    • @veledwin1
      @veledwin1 3 года назад +67

      I like them just fine without horns but that's a shitty reason. Horns wouldn't make them resemble the Nature trio even if they wanted them to

    • @gstellar96
      @gstellar96 3 года назад +39

      They look nothing like them, it definitely would have helped them since their regular designs are so meh compared to Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee

    • @marmitetempest2699
      @marmitetempest2699 3 года назад +24

      Tornadous was also red at the time and not green, or so I heard

    • @gustavju4686
      @gustavju4686 3 года назад +36

      @@veledwin1 Think it's more that they didn't want 5 oni in a single gen, so they toned down the fighting duo's oni bits. But, yeah, is pretty silly, well assuming that the real beta designs weren't more similar to the trio than what we got.

  • @lunasolaris6813
    @lunasolaris6813 3 года назад +170

    I hope this “defending design” series sticks. I think it would help really make sense of the really misunderstood designs of both Pokémon and other series. I always wondered about Shok and Thro

  • @ultimatex1334
    @ultimatex1334 3 года назад +710

    Sawk earned my respect after carrying me through a lot of the Unova gyms.

  • @leftygurl
    @leftygurl 3 года назад +155

    hot take: i actually like these two, my sawk was a key player on my black team, and throh just kinda soaks up the appreciation by association.

    • @jrlaps521
      @jrlaps521 3 года назад +11

      He’s pretty bulky and still has decent offenses compared to Sawk

    • @hixel1268
      @hixel1268 3 года назад +5

      I really like them as well

    • @beanslinger2
      @beanslinger2 Год назад +1

      @@jrlaps521 *clicks Vital Throw*

    • @skull_solder59
      @skull_solder59 Год назад +1

      Sawk is legit my favourite Pokemon ever

    • @aguywithsocks
      @aguywithsocks 11 месяцев назад

      sawk was good in 2d throh was alright both were DESTROYED by 3d

  • @SkimBee
    @SkimBee 3 года назад +886

    Lockstin is the only youtuber I’d be fine with doing a whole video on decorating a ball

    • @pika_link49
      @pika_link49 3 года назад +11

      The struggle will be hilarious

    • @crisismoon880
      @crisismoon880 3 года назад +9

      I wouldn’t even mind watching him draw some Pokémon

    • @daweaselgeek1430
      @daweaselgeek1430 3 года назад +7

      Did you not see the monstrosity that was created?

    • @mewho8993
      @mewho8993 3 года назад +5

      Ya lol

    • @mewho8993
      @mewho8993 3 года назад +3

      Nice he is my fav.

  • @MrcreeperDXD777
    @MrcreeperDXD777 3 года назад +80

    A dog, a monkey, and a pheasant
    wait a minute... *looks at Stoutland, The Simis, and Unfezant*
    oh yeah, its all coming together

  • @no_0riginality937
    @no_0riginality937 3 года назад +713

    Pokémon: *gets accused of being Satanic*
    Shin Megami Tensei: Thank you for saving my back bro

    • @WEXgamers11
      @WEXgamers11 3 года назад +38

      I hope he does a SMT video one day

    • @yaboyrenkuji5342
      @yaboyrenkuji5342 3 года назад +85

      Pokemon: We make pocket monster, not demons
      Shin megami tensei: Wanna see me doing another lucifer design again?

    • @spacialwanderer9552
      @spacialwanderer9552 3 года назад +1

      @@WEXgamers11 he won’t 😊

    • @fool8304
      @fool8304 3 года назад +16

      Well they have wildly different demographics. Parents didn't get mad at SMT because their kids weren't playing it

    • @SoloWing88
      @SoloWing88 3 года назад +5

      @@fool8304 even on the snes?

  • @deadhalo2581
    @deadhalo2581 3 года назад +205

    Petition to get lockstin to make an “every president’s Pokémon team”

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +6

      @GABRIEL GONZALEZ This channel is lacking Mystery Dungeon Content.
      Much so.
      I mean, Theorys, Lore, Designs, and open questions,
      all that could be discussed.
      Also, the Pokemon there have, in the City, specific
      personality (that players of the games will forever remember, in
      fact), so WHY do these specific pokemon have those specific
      personalitys and quirks? Thats just the first
      specific Topic for a video i can think up.
      Right?

    • @BioniclesaurKing4t2
      @BioniclesaurKing4t2 3 года назад +3

      William Henry Harrison would have a Politoed with Drizzle and Pokérus and nothing else. It's only Move is Perish Song.
      Too soon?

    • @Ockto_
      @Ockto_ 3 года назад +4

      A Braviary is needed for every team

    • @Dani-Claw
      @Dani-Claw 3 года назад

      @@BioniclesaurKing4t2 "too soon" 😆

    • @majorhoolahan
      @majorhoolahan 3 года назад +1

      At least a highlight reel for the more prominent or well known presidents, top ten maybe.

  • @unluckychucky3979
    @unluckychucky3979 3 года назад +947

    I’d like to see more Lockstin arts n craft.

    • @Scrippyy
      @Scrippyy 3 года назад +22

      Lockstin and Craftin'

    • @timuryeldiren9104
      @timuryeldiren9104 3 года назад +13

      Next time by Art Attack: watch lockstin glueing eyes on a key

    • @nethmagdadaro1991
      @nethmagdadaro1991 3 года назад +4

      He used an avocado for sawk's nose

    • @unluckychucky3979
      @unluckychucky3979 3 года назад +3

      Neth Magdadaro that shows of his creativity.

    • @muddledwhitemage
      @muddledwhitemage 3 года назад +1

      Seriously, the cold/craft opening is great

  • @elphor_l4
    @elphor_l4 3 года назад +35

    I can't get over Lockstin pronouncing Ulysses as "You-Sillys"

  • @Scrippyy
    @Scrippyy 3 года назад +842

    "What is this Bert and Ernie garbage in my pokemon game"
    Lockstin 1/15/2021

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 года назад +3

      ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear criwn

    • @MightyAverage
      @MightyAverage 3 года назад +16

      “Maybe there’s more to these muppets, I mean monstrosities, I mean Arlo.”

    • @michaelmunoz8014
      @michaelmunoz8014 3 года назад +1

      They're actually based off of elmo and grover.

    • @morgiemango6242
      @morgiemango6242 2 года назад

      Its literally all i see when i look at them 😭😂

  • @SlurpyTheDog
    @SlurpyTheDog 3 года назад +168

    Fun fact: “If you ever say “this won’t be the last time I’m wrong” and then die, a paradox is created

    • @OGrupxe
      @OGrupxe 3 года назад +11

      Nah, it's easier to rip through space and time to violently kill my grandfather before he even gets to meet my grandmother.

    • @niello5944
      @niello5944 3 года назад +12

      No, because "this won’t be the last time I’m wrong" would be wrong.

    • @apenguininthemist855
      @apenguininthemist855 3 года назад +5

      @@niello5944 However, it would rather literally be the last time one was wrong, barring any sort of afterlife shinanegans. Thust the paradox is born. It both is and is not at the same time.

    • @SlurpyTheDog
      @SlurpyTheDog 3 года назад +6

      @@niello5944 Yeah, exactly, it is indeed “wrong” that you would do more wrong things in life, because you died.
      But because it now IS wrong, you were actually correct in the first place that it wouldn’t be the last time you are wrong
      Paradox

    • @SlurpyTheDog
      @SlurpyTheDog 3 года назад +1

      @@OGrupxe My favorite activity

  • @soniaegg9669
    @soniaegg9669 3 года назад +260

    I think Sawks name is based off socking somebody, like in a fight cause he's kind of in a fist position, same with Throh. Hes gonna throw you.

    • @tornamo7007
      @tornamo7007 3 года назад +39

      Impossible I thought it was based off a sock and throh having no throat

    • @virtual__
      @virtual__ 3 года назад +33

      What no way are you suggesting they're based off of material arts or something

    • @switchblade6
      @switchblade6 3 года назад +9

      I actually didn't understand Sawk's lmao. I did get Throh because duh but Sawk never clicked with me

    • @flare_63
      @flare_63 3 года назад +3

      @@switchblade6 I think his name is based on the old toys "Sock n' Boppers" or whatever they are called

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 года назад +2

      @@flare_63 SOCKER BOPPERS, SOCKER BOPPERS, MORE FUN THAN. A PILLOOOW FIGHT!
      They played that commercial on the cartoon channels a lot when I was growing up

  • @gat0rcrazzi
    @gat0rcrazzi 3 года назад +161

    Ngl, I don’t have a problem with most of the “bad” gen 5 designs.

  • @slavmonke9069
    @slavmonke9069 3 года назад +193

    I remeber that one scene in the anime where sawk just got incredibly buffed out of nowhere

    • @SM-be5dh
      @SM-be5dh 3 года назад +49

      It used the move bulk up not out of nowhere lol

    • @Argent_Void
      @Argent_Void 3 года назад +28

      That was Sawk using Bulk Up. I don't remember its trainer's name, but he was one of Ash's main rivals.

    • @7shaz790
      @7shaz790 3 года назад +7

      @@Argent_Void Stephan I think or something like that

    • @emperorarkoos2919
      @emperorarkoos2919 3 года назад +18

      @@SM-be5dh stephan had a bulk up addiction

    • @milkyjuice646
      @milkyjuice646 3 года назад +16

      and Bianca was apparently a pokephile

  • @Oh_liv_ee_AY
    @Oh_liv_ee_AY 3 года назад +17

    The oni story is so adorable I aspire to be blue oni

  • @toast4248
    @toast4248 3 года назад +148

    Sawk and Throh are Sesame Street characters that hit the gym

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +2

      Hey.
      Random, yeah, but i wanted to tell you:
      I reported harmful and/or racist and/or sexist
      and/or sexual content on RUclips for years now.
      But youtube needs higher numbers of report
      to act, now. Higher than ever before.
      So i made a Wiki, where i drop Links so people can
      report Racists, Bullies, Mobber and whatnotelse.
      I confirmed those Links to lead to people who
      are toxic in one way or another, as well as content
      that just does not belong on RUclips; age-restricted or not.
      So i made a Wiki and filled it with Links. So people can report;
      so youtube can become a better and more heatlyh community.
      Sorry for the random comment, but if youre interested, just tell me.
      Wanna fight Baddies and help the plattform? I know exactly how (though
      more ways, that i didnt thought of yet, would also be something i want to hear.)

    • @Mattno.777
      @Mattno.777 3 года назад +5

      @@slevinchannel7589 dude. Please stop

    • @cyrus8886
      @cyrus8886 3 года назад +2

      @@slevinchannel7589 bruh stop get some help

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +1

      @@cyrus8886 I am literally asking around for help, you genius.
      I literally am asking for help.
      If the concept is too complex, just dont say anything, but dont embrass yourself by getting rude all of a sudden.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +1

      @@Mattno.777 Why?

  • @lizarrrrrd795
    @lizarrrrrd795 3 года назад +12

    Honestly I’ve always liked their designs, and they aren’t bad Pokémon to use in a play through. Especially Throh! He takes hits really well and dishes them out like nobody’s business!!!

  • @yulian511
    @yulian511 3 года назад +1098

    Am i the only Pokémon fan who doesn't complain about like, most designs?

    • @MrMetal-xe8lg
      @MrMetal-xe8lg 3 года назад +147

      You're one of the few, and I'm right there with you.

    • @xero1134
      @xero1134 3 года назад +99

      There is only one line I will actively dislike.
      A lot of less appealing mons grow on me over time in general, so almost all mons I like

    • @ricardodamacenafilho4049
      @ricardodamacenafilho4049 3 года назад +28

      Yes, the only one, the special, masuda's favorite child

    • @pb-cup6061
      @pb-cup6061 3 года назад +10

      I know right

    • @ducklett01god6
      @ducklett01god6 3 года назад +7

      Same with you

  • @sirpibble
    @sirpibble 3 года назад +3

    An important detail
    sawks face is a reference to a story about famous karate man mas oyama. He went into the mountains to train in solitude but he started to lose his resolve and wanted to return to civilization. So he shaved off just one eyebrow as it would be embarrassing for anyone to see him in that state
    and that's what motivated him to continue training

  • @Galarticuno
    @Galarticuno 3 года назад +52

    The WWII propaganda really helps to explain why they are in Galar
    Also I believe in an interview or something, GameFreak stated that they removed the horns for they thought the two resemble the Forces of Nature trio to closely

  • @LifeofaMissouriTeen
    @LifeofaMissouriTeen 3 года назад +6

    To be honest, who wouldn't want Bert and Ernie as a Pokemon?
    Also I like that the story of Momotaro also lends some inspiration for the Lillipup line, Unfeazant, and the element monkeys all being from the same region as Sawk and Throh.
    And a final thought, that oni story is the most wholesome thing to come out of Japanese folklore I've ever heard.

  • @BlutwoAnimations
    @BlutwoAnimations 3 года назад +124

    one of the many aspects pokemon does love is lore. I'll give them that.

  • @lemonthelemoncake9790
    @lemonthelemoncake9790 3 года назад +7

    Lockstin when he tapes some cardboard and an avocado to a blue ball: *arteest*

  • @ProfessorAlexSilver
    @ProfessorAlexSilver 3 года назад +252

    I must be in the minority liking Sawk & Throh's design 😂

    • @Sohlihno
      @Sohlihno 3 года назад +11

      Here to but. But I'm always minority.

    • @russellmuffinxp364
      @russellmuffinxp364 3 года назад +13

      I like their design too

    • @superior2096
      @superior2096 3 года назад +4

      Me 3.

    • @NU121493255
      @NU121493255 3 года назад +24

      While not one of my favorites, they're not bad. I get why people don't use them in their teams, but I don't get why people bash them so much.

    • @MrMetal-xe8lg
      @MrMetal-xe8lg 3 года назад +2

      Me 6

  • @Robochuck
    @Robochuck Год назад +1

    Came here from your preview of the Scarlet Violet DLC video.
    Your audio has improved a lot in two years ! Wow I don't think I had noticed before

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar 3 года назад +183

    I'd type in a more elaborate comment about how the Fighting Type needs more non-humanoids and that's why I love Crabominable so much but my cat is on the desk and she makes typing hard.

    • @rhysowens1
      @rhysowens1 3 года назад +29

      I would love an anthropomorphic pile of dirt for a fighting and ground type pokémon

    • @nathamiell
      @nathamiell 3 года назад +27

      @@rhysowens1 palossand but with fists instead of castle turrets

    • @rhysowens1
      @rhysowens1 3 года назад +5

      @@nathamiell Yeah I think that would be perfect.

    • @theburgerking1236
      @theburgerking1236 3 года назад +16

      Yeah fighting types could get more out there with their designs like emboar kind of. I guess. We could also use less monkey Pokémon

    • @theburgerking1236
      @theburgerking1236 3 года назад +6

      There is so many monkies

  • @MagusAgrippa8
    @MagusAgrippa8 3 года назад +3

    There's also the trope of Red and Blue Oni, which deals with a pair of characters expressing opposite traits. The Red Oni character is commonly viewed as more aggressive or abrasive, willing to take action without thinking. The Blue Oni character is commonly viewed as more calm or strategic, preferring to wait it out before taking action. A good example of this would be classic duos like Ichigo Kurosaki and Uryu Ishida in Bleach.

  • @AngryTheChipmonk
    @AngryTheChipmonk 3 года назад +139

    Me: Where's the Arlo joke
    Lockstin: 1:18
    Me: Ah...perfect.

    • @intrepidhero
      @intrepidhero 3 года назад +5

      After the Arlo joke, I could help but picture Arlo saying "Arlo, Arlo" over and over in my head.

    • @c4d3._.68
      @c4d3._.68 3 года назад +1

      Does lockstin run arlo?

  • @evillecaston
    @evillecaston 3 года назад +38

    "If they don't want Pokemon taking off their clothes, they probably shouldn't give them clothes"
    I mean, you're not wrong, but...

  • @preachermantv2347
    @preachermantv2347 3 года назад +174

    i actually liked S & T. I was surprised when i found out that they were disliked by the fanbase

    • @firstnamemclastname5035
      @firstnamemclastname5035 3 года назад +20

      I think theyre not the worst but they arent the best either so I dont hate them

    • @zerokura
      @zerokura 3 года назад +1

      I like the horns because a Y and other eye brow face i dont understand them.

    • @robertmelgar4119
      @robertmelgar4119 3 года назад

      Hi

    • @JazzyKazzyCat
      @JazzyKazzyCat 3 года назад +1

      I like them

    • @dasawkem
      @dasawkem 3 года назад

      Same!

  • @ostensiblyaverage5576
    @ostensiblyaverage5576 3 года назад +9

    Lockstin: Begins telling the story of the Red and Blue oni
    Re:Zero Fans: Do not cite the deep magic to me witch.

  • @elilopez6260
    @elilopez6260 3 года назад +102

    So Sawk and Throh have extremely good lore but their designs failed to convey 90% of it.

    • @sws212
      @sws212 3 года назад +11

      Eh, red and blue are common colors in competition like karate and taekwondo, especially since they're wearing Karate Gis plus they look like rock em, sock em robots. The oni mythology is definitely there but this video take the scenic route a few too many times to drive the point home.

  • @colesilaggi7619
    @colesilaggi7619 3 года назад +13

    I actually don’t mind them that much. They’re pretty cool

    • @jrlaps521
      @jrlaps521 3 года назад +1

      In Black and White, you can get them right before Nacrene City’s gym and they’re so good early game

    • @hixel1268
      @hixel1268 3 года назад

      I like em a lot as well

  • @captainnum7575
    @captainnum7575 3 года назад +37

    The man finally released this vid

  • @musix3197
    @musix3197 3 года назад +5

    *They wanted to avoid looking satanic*
    Giratina : well hello there

  • @Dispencerhere
    @Dispencerhere 3 года назад +57

    Dog, monkey and fezant? Looks like whole gen 5 was based on that story

    • @apex2000
      @apex2000 3 года назад +6

      So America is the island full of Oni.

    • @mr_hands
      @mr_hands 3 года назад +5

      Sorry to be that guy but *pheasant lol

    • @k-fey6642
      @k-fey6642 3 года назад +3

      Peasant

    • @Ditidos
      @Ditidos 3 года назад +2

      Lol, you get a monkey and your rivals each get a dog and a pheasant respectively, right? Well, technically everyone gets a monkey but at the point where you can find wild Swaks and/or Throts each one just have one on their teams.

    • @ohivonmenisunuoya
      @ohivonmenisunuoya 3 года назад +2

      @@Ditidos which pokemon is the dog?

  • @condorello3746
    @condorello3746 3 года назад +1

    I always thought that they were red and blue to represent the robots in boxing games, so it furthermore justifies their fighting type

  • @CarbonMalite
    @CarbonMalite 3 года назад +15

    Next time I use Sawk I'm naming it Arlo

  • @thunderhammerx2966
    @thunderhammerx2966 3 года назад +2

    I had a Throh on my original playthrough of BW, and it was awesome. He picked up and tossed all the mons all over the place.

  • @cintronproductions9430
    @cintronproductions9430 3 года назад +34

    I was gonna write a Bert and Ernie joke but Lockstin himself beat me to it. XD

  • @inactive234
    @inactive234 3 года назад +1

    I always find the layers behind a Pokémon design super fascinating. Thanks for making these kinds of videos; I'll never get tired of 'em

  • @henrysierra7512
    @henrysierra7512 3 года назад +52

    Literally no one:
    Lockstin in the intro: I'm CrAfTy

  • @DrowSoldier33
    @DrowSoldier33 3 года назад +2

    Wow...you actually made me want a Throh so I could call it Roosevelt.

  • @fatiyahe
    @fatiyahe 3 года назад +127

    Sawk looks like a smurf. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

    • @brethebird3148
      @brethebird3148 3 года назад +4

      EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!

    • @Sungura_Kaiser
      @Sungura_Kaiser 3 года назад +4

      You've gotta be Smurfing kidding me!

    • @SamualN
      @SamualN 3 года назад +2

      you're right, they're both blue which means they're basically identical

    • @fatiyahe
      @fatiyahe 3 года назад

      @@SamualN mhm squirtle is a smurf too

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад

      Bonjour and HI.
      Random, yeah, but i wanted to tell you:
      I reported harmful and/or racist and/or sexist
      and/or sexual content on RUclips for years now.
      But youtube needs higher numbers of report
      to act, now. Higher than ever before.
      So i made a Wiki, where i drop Links so people can
      report Racists, Bullies, Mobber and whatnotelse.
      I confirmed those Links to lead to people who
      are toxic in one way or another, as well as content
      that just does not belong on RUclips; age-restricted or not.
      So i made a Wiki and filled it with Links. So people can report;
      so youtube can become a better and more heatlyh community.
      Sorry for the random comment, but if youre interested, just tell me.
      Wanna fight Baddies and help the plattform? I know exactly how (though
      more ways, that i didnt thought of yet, would also be something i want to hear.)

  • @hedgie_doll2314
    @hedgie_doll2314 2 года назад +1

    Honestly this duo feel like filler in the same way basculin was specifically made to fill out the unova pokedex

  • @MrMetal-xe8lg
    @MrMetal-xe8lg 3 года назад +4

    Bro, the boys are just doing their best. They aren't ugly.

  • @h4zaya558
    @h4zaya558 3 года назад +1

    The reason why Throh is the red oni and Sawk the blue one can be linked to 2 oni story, where the blue oni attacked the village (therefore Sawk being the "offensive" one) and the red oni defended the village (and thats why Throh learns a lot of defensive moves).

  • @ThunderToast97
    @ThunderToast97 3 года назад +5

    Well, now I understand that story in Re: Zero a little better.

  • @TeHappyHippo
    @TeHappyHippo 3 года назад +1

    You should do a series of videos going REALLY in depth into all of the pokemon origins in pokedex order! I would LOVE that!

  • @ThunderLandVT
    @ThunderLandVT 3 года назад +78

    Am I the 1% that actually likes Samurott’s design

    • @niapurdue230
      @niapurdue230 3 года назад +13

      I do too buddy

    • @kchgamer1788
      @kchgamer1788 3 года назад +14

      Samurott is one of my favorite Pokémon overall. It’s a simple but effective design and looks awesome

    • @creightonofmirrah2479
      @creightonofmirrah2479 3 года назад +12

      No. I love it too

    • @MrMetal-xe8lg
      @MrMetal-xe8lg 3 года назад +11

      Dude, his built in swords are so awesome

    • @rotciv557
      @rotciv557 3 года назад +10

      I...Don't see many people who dislike Samurott, honestly. Oshawott and Dewott, perhaps, but Samurott I've never seen being bashed for it's design

  • @hunterbruce6972
    @hunterbruce6972 3 года назад +2

    Can we get a series of what each US President’s pokémon team would be? Seems like you’re off to a good start already

  • @slavmonke9069
    @slavmonke9069 3 года назад +6

    Fun fact!
    George Washington had a suvire case of hemoroids!
    For instance this caused him to not be able to ride a horse plus he was carried in a waggon multiple times :)

  • @topazcuppa-scorpio1313
    @topazcuppa-scorpio1313 3 года назад +1

    "it's not because a design is resourced and inspired that it's a good one" definitely applies to a lot of pokemons. for me, it mostly happened in gen 8

  • @blazusyt3056
    @blazusyt3056 3 года назад +41

    You telling me people dislike throh and sawk when there's pokemon like hitmonlee and hitmonchan? These gen wunners i swear

    • @toumabyakuya3498
      @toumabyakuya3498 3 года назад +6

      I mean, I agree, but is exactly because those exist why people dislike Throh and Sawk.

    • @blazusyt3056
      @blazusyt3056 3 года назад +8

      @@toumabyakuya3498 compared to those pokemon sawk and throh are wayyy better and less bland looking

    • @spectralburst5258
      @spectralburst5258 3 года назад +12

      Hitmonlee is pretty cool, idk what to say about hitmonchan tho. Actually kinda like sawk and throh tbh.

    • @Ditidos
      @Ditidos 3 года назад +3

      Well, I do dislike the four of them, though. I mean, Hitmonchan doesn't have a proper head and Hitmontop is more novel and better-looking so I actually like him.

    • @rayraffiki1856
      @rayraffiki1856 3 года назад +1

      I'm still trying to figure out why hitmonlee doesn't have a head

  • @pkmntrainermark8881
    @pkmntrainermark8881 3 года назад +1

    Honestly, applying Momotaro to the War was pretty clever.

  • @carlac8560
    @carlac8560 3 года назад +23

    Something I noticed is that the things on their faces resemble an “S” and a “T” for Sawk and Throh. Creativity amiright

    • @victzegopterix2
      @victzegopterix2 3 года назад +1

      No, sawk's face thing isn't like a "S", it's like a "Z".

    • @rj_0401
      @rj_0401 3 года назад +1

      @@victzegopterix2 it is Z until he looks into a mirror

    • @schmarzel8342
      @schmarzel8342 3 года назад +1

      also throh has 2 while sawk only has 1 just like their designs when they still had horns

  • @Roshiyu
    @Roshiyu 3 года назад +1

    .... That end song deserved some Sawk x Throh x Ditto time. XD

  • @mr.mcmeme2638
    @mr.mcmeme2638 3 года назад +19

    “Pokémon were accused of being satanic” sooo a cute little tadpole and a little fox or dog thing? (Evee) are assisted with Satan? Okay.

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 3 года назад +6

      The franchise was new, people made religious connections, and the Catholic church got triggered.

    • @realsalu634
      @realsalu634 3 года назад +2

      Giratina

    • @Sungura_Kaiser
      @Sungura_Kaiser 3 года назад +2

      Uri Geller's infamous whining about Kadabra

    • @namenotimportantdontask4372
      @namenotimportantdontask4372 3 года назад +5

      I honestly see where they're coming from to be honest and this is coming from a fan of Pokemon who also happens to be Christian. You have weird creatures that can do basically magic and follow your commands can very easily be connected to stories of people who can summon demons to do their bidding and all that crap. There's also some Pokemon such as the Abra line (and especially Alakazam) that do contain satanic elements in their design and I have found some very creepy fan art created by people who also seem to have picked up on that and brought it out to the surface. Don't even get me started on the fact that a 10 year old is supposed to be able to capture "god" and keep him in their back pocket at their back and call. Don't get me wrong I do still mostly enjoy this series, and i get why you would too but those parts definitely put a sour taste in my mouth personally.
      Tl;DR A closer look at the series and you can see where people are coming from even with the "harmless" cartoony exterior. It doesn't mean your worshipping Satan just because you play (again, coming from a fan whose also Christian) but it's not as far fetched as you would think.

    • @realsalu634
      @realsalu634 3 года назад +2

      @@namenotimportantdontask4372 i do mean there are Pokemon ano are based in demons

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 года назад +1

    7:37 One of my personal favorite quotes from that movie is "Best way to avoid punch: No be there."
    ...Or was that the first sequel? I forget, it's been way too long.

  • @Saviarai-Dravolika
    @Saviarai-Dravolika 3 года назад +11

    RUclips: 10 Comments
    Me: Can I see them?
    RUclips: No.
    Me: Why I can't?
    RUclips: _It's the law._

    • @Sleepygarr
      @Sleepygarr 3 года назад +1

      The ten that you originally couldn't see, were probably flagged for review. Possibly spam, bots, etc.

    • @atuna7579
      @atuna7579 3 года назад

      Ik it happens

  • @fooddude5885
    @fooddude5885 3 года назад +1

    I had a friend who loved this Pokémon, now there one of the most memorable Pokémon to me because of how much they talked about, now matter how much I hate the Pokémon I will always remember them

  • @Decachad
    @Decachad 3 года назад +15

    The ad I got before this was literally an ad for boxing😂

  • @paytonjarrett9595
    @paytonjarrett9595 3 года назад

    the sad music and zoom in on the eyes and crushed nose at the en slayed me

  • @KayCray875
    @KayCray875 3 года назад +7

    Is it just me or does throh heavily resemble grilled meat

  • @marc0s158
    @marc0s158 3 года назад

    Nice to see the red&blue oni story getting more publicity. Its a classic

  • @kaiceecrane3884
    @kaiceecrane3884 3 года назад +4

    I love both of them, I didn't realize people had issue with them, they are some of my favorite

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 3 года назад +2

    Bert and Ernie are one of the few pokemon from Gen 5 I like. I just like the idea of karate muppets. (and yes I get the Oni reference)

  • @crumbrbx8009
    @crumbrbx8009 3 года назад +9

    What do u need to protect swak n’ throh about they’re PERFECT on their own
    I LLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVEEEE THHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEMMMMM

  • @Rarest26
    @Rarest26 3 года назад +2

    I remember those evenings where I would sit on the sofa and watch the Pokémon anime after doing some Judo. And funnily enough, the Unova season aired at that time. Good times.

  • @anautilus2004
    @anautilus2004 3 года назад +9

    TBH I've always liked these guys. I used Sawk on my team for my first playthrough of SwSh and he put in some serious work.

  • @mettatonsagent7541
    @mettatonsagent7541 3 года назад +1

    8:21 legit all I remember from my 8th grade Social Studies class is that Roosevelt was, in fact, a chad

  • @tanglekelp1857
    @tanglekelp1857 3 года назад +5

    Ok, before I watch this, I'm 100% sure he's gonna talk about Momotaro
    Edit: knew it :)

  • @navlisking
    @navlisking 3 года назад +2

    no joke, sock and throw are two of my favourite pokemon of all time....so much so that if i were to make a fakemon world. they'd have regional variants in it
    there i said it

    • @mynamejeff2436
      @mynamejeff2436 3 года назад

      I feel like their weird designs would make them great candidates for Pokémon that get regional variants, I would’ve loved Alola forms that gave them a wooden texture and Hawaiian shirts

    • @Zakatakamime
      @Zakatakamime 18 дней назад

      Throh is a very fun design.

  • @JMalaby89
    @JMalaby89 3 года назад +3

    Damn, I actually like Sawk and Throh's designs. To each their own I guess.

  • @maruku4445
    @maruku4445 2 года назад

    1:03 LMAO! Not a minute into this and you make the running Bert and Ernie joke.

  • @dewotm8
    @dewotm8 3 года назад +4

    I always liked sawk and thro I always thought they were cool.
    (Also whenever I got a sawk I named it master onion :p.)

    • @aztecklover69
      @aztecklover69 3 года назад

      I havent used obe but if i did; ai would name mine Sokkem

  • @slots777
    @slots777 3 года назад +1

    Anyone else think that Sawk effigy looks like Mr. Robinson from Gumball?

  • @erika8737
    @erika8737 3 года назад +5

    Not gonna lie, when Lockstin said "gen 4 monstrosities" I was doing something and stopped in my tracks and had to regain my composure

  • @zacharyabrahamson5287
    @zacharyabrahamson5287 3 года назад +1

    i still don't understand why anyone disliked them... Throh is one of my favorite pokémon of all time, such a unique looking Pokémon

  • @michaelmatasso4477
    @michaelmatasso4477 3 года назад +5

    Waste of a perfectly good avocado...

  • @bobalinx8762
    @bobalinx8762 3 года назад +1

    The reason their horns were removed is because they looked too similar to Thundurus, Landorus, and Tornadus at the time.

  • @Adam.bomb97
    @Adam.bomb97 3 года назад +4

    the whole time sawk and throh are on screen it looks like they're waving to me and honestly its pretty wholesome

  • @ndoggydogable
    @ndoggydogable 3 года назад

    Man you made me so happy even mentioning Master Trias. He actually trained my direct Sensei so thank you for paying homage to Shuri-Ryu.

  • @digisalamander2726
    @digisalamander2726 3 года назад +5

    I though their colors come from the Korean flag. Red and blue. As they are base on judo and hapkido that are Korean martial arts

    • @ericriley1985
      @ericriley1985 3 года назад +1

      Judo is Japanese. And Sawk is based on karate which is also Japanese (Okinawa specifically).

    • @digisalamander2726
      @digisalamander2726 3 года назад

      @@ericriley1985 really. I thought it has some roots in Korea

    • @ericriley1985
      @ericriley1985 3 года назад +1

      @@digisalamander2726 Nope, Judo's origins have nothing to do with Korea at all. In fact, its the other way around: Hapkido was heavily influenced by Judo.

    • @digisalamander2726
      @digisalamander2726 3 года назад

      @@ericriley1985 really, interesting. Learn something new every day

  • @aidenbeyer9260
    @aidenbeyer9260 3 года назад +2

    Lockstin could convince me that my lamp is actually my biological mother and how it ties back to history

  • @slavmonke9069
    @slavmonke9069 3 года назад +4

    Question!
    Do you think sawk and throh are rippofs of hitmonlee and hitmonchan?

    • @squidbro6635
      @squidbro6635 3 года назад +1

      Considering the whole "Gen 5 was a soft reset" theory, I guess.though I would say more of a revamp

    • @Argent_Void
      @Argent_Void 3 года назад +1

      Yes, but no. They are theoretically not because they don't look similar at all. But technically they are, because they are supposed to take the same role as Hitmonlee and Hirmonchan.

    • @pricelesschess
      @pricelesschess 3 года назад +1

      No, because they look nothing like each other. Sure, they have a martial arts theme, but so do a lot of Fighting types.

    • @MeMyselfI__
      @MeMyselfI__ 3 года назад

      No, They do Share Martial Arts Themes but Almost All Other Fighting Type Pokémon also Share that Theme As Well and I just like S & T more

  • @an8-bitbatty907
    @an8-bitbatty907 3 года назад +1

    I actually like Throh, I have a Throh called "Rite" as one of my OCs, and it's purely based on it's physiology & method of fighting

  • @williamswonderland3636
    @williamswonderland3636 3 года назад +12

    i liked sock and throh when i first saw them.

  • @daltonlefler892
    @daltonlefler892 3 года назад

    The closing shot was pure art

  • @bifee9471
    @bifee9471 3 года назад +9

    I’ve always liked sawk and throh designs, and now that I know they are anti-USA I like them even more

  • @anthonyreuter5077
    @anthonyreuter5077 3 года назад +1

    I’d love to see a video on how you think all the gen 5 Pokémon relate to America, similar to how you did with gen 8 and the UK.

  • @jeffhirsh5722
    @jeffhirsh5722 3 года назад +5

    Sawk and Throh don't deserve the hate.
    do you know how OP Sawk is in competitive.
    just have a level 1 Sawk with the sturdy ability make it hold berry juice. give it the moves toxic and pain split then your set. basically the only way to defeat it is entry hazards and toxic or will o wisp or multi hit moves.

    • @doozsromhacks
      @doozsromhacks 3 года назад

      Oh wow only entry hazards and status? The most popular things in 6v6 singles? Wow! Sounds like a garbage gimmick

    • @jeffhirsh5722
      @jeffhirsh5722 3 года назад

      @@doozsromhacks dude if your on showdown then yeah. but if your just casually playing online your probally going to be up against 9 year olds who have only attacking moves and don't know wtf they're doing so you just need to know who to use it against.

    • @doozsromhacks
      @doozsromhacks 3 года назад

      @@jeffhirsh5722 LMFAO nice then
      It also works for like any sturdy mon so yeah

    • @jeffhirsh5722
      @jeffhirsh5722 3 года назад

      @@doozsromhacks no it's much more efficient because it's not one use it's infinite use. like a level 1 focus sash rattata can take out one opponent while a level 1 Sawk will take out all 6

    • @doozsromhacks
      @doozsromhacks 3 года назад

      @@jeffhirsh5722 I'm not talking about Fear. I'm saying any pokemon with Sturdy pain split can do it. I believe Aron is the go-to choice, since it's immune to Sand damage.

  • @adrigl3371
    @adrigl3371 3 года назад +1

    You made me appreciate the inspiration and backstory of these Pokémon and it makes me sad that all of that was misrepresented with these bad designs, they are still the ones I most hate and if I could I would delete them from existence.

  • @adamnaameeazim6365
    @adamnaameeazim6365 3 года назад +9

    Yikes, Arlo isn't gonna be happy about that comment. Pretty sure that comparison is a bit racist.

  • @Flip-a-dip-dip
    @Flip-a-dip-dip 3 года назад

    OK this is exactly why I love this channel. I hated these two Pokémon with a passion but now you’ve made me reconsider. Thanks for the fresh perspective my guy.

  • @jorgejugar8693
    @jorgejugar8693 Год назад +1

    Watching post sv dlc announcement. Momotaros friends are mighty familiar, eh?

  • @Mag4Elf
    @Mag4Elf 3 года назад +1

    Lockstin seriously looking at the camera while making Sawk, going "I'm not doing anything weird."

  • @jvbon646
    @jvbon646 3 года назад +1

    They took away their horns so that they wouldn't look too similar to the Forces of Nature / Genie Trio / 3 buff dudes sitting a cloud

  • @StormlordOG
    @StormlordOG Месяц назад

    5:32 I just realised that that Dog Pheasant and Monkey were the Loyal Three