The BEST "class" in BDO - UNKILLABLE & VERY Easy - 21 Grind Spots Tested , Combos & DMG Numbers.

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
  • 📌 ~~~ Description ~~~ 📌
    Probably the most fun i had in a long time from just trying a new class , i will say i like Succ Tamer too , i will eventually play more of that but i just got addicted to HEILANG pretty fast once i saw it CAN work xD
    It made me actually look forward to trying spots like Crypt / Dehkia Ash / Dehkia Oluns / Dehkia Turos and more just because now i don't need to ever stress over CCs or breaking my crystals :p
    Timestamps :
    00:00 MOUNTED Tamer Guide!!!
    00:16 Topics
    00:31 You're welcomed
    00:51 Heilang
    01:36 Where i took Heilang
    01:44 Dehkia Turos
    02:43 City of the Dead
    03:08 Trolls
    03:42 Dehkia Oluns
    03:30 Rhutums
    05:02 Gyfins
    05:20 Dehkia Ash
    06:15 Dehkia Thornwood
    06:39 Dehkia Cyclops
    07:14 Dehkia Hystria
    07:32 Jade Forest
    08:03 Orcs
    08:26 Saunils
    08:55 Elvia Hexe
    09:28 Giants
    10:37 Biraghi
    10:59 Darkseekers
    11:24 Padix
    11:44 Crypt
    13:09 Dehkia Pila Ku Jail
    13:29 Dehkia Sulfur
    13:45 Summary
    13:54 Armor breaking & Resummons
    15:05 Elixir Rotation on Heilang
    15:30 Heilang's HP & Tankiness
    16:38 Rage & AP Buffs
    17:20 Heilang's Skills & Skill DMG
    21:02 ALL Combo Variations
    21:53 DMG per Combo & DPS
    23:11 Time per Combo for Heilang,Guardian,Tamer
    25:06 Heilang DPS
    26:32 Guardian Awakening DPS
    27:37 Tamer Succession DPS
    29:26 Addons
    30:10 Ending Thoughts
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    📝 ~~~ Notice ~~~ 📝
    ➭ This is all done from my own perspective and with my own opinion of Black Desert , if there are any aspects of this topic that i missed or got wrong then please leave a comment below as other people may see it and benefit from the extra information , ty.
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Комментарии • 160

  • @Duodecil
    @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +25

    IMPORTANT : SKILL ADDONS do NOT work anymore on heilang , recent patch (june 19th) ... :/
    - Didn't expect this to take me 3 days to edit BUUUUUT i made MAGIC , managed to cut this down from 46 to 31mins xD
    - IT JUST CLICKED , the reason the "SHORT" combo was 7:86 then 8:22 when did twice in a row , its because shiftF is 8sec cd so there is a tiny dead time gap before u can recast it , so i guess the dmg for the SHORT combo is a tiny bit higher , shouldn't have averaged the time >.>
    - Looking back , i didn't even mention that i am considering getting the Roaring Armor (20acc questline chest) to use on heilang for some more free accuracy since DP doesn't matter a whole lot , i said in the video it DOESN'T but i think to some degree it still does , just not enough to truly matter if i have a bad chest piece or not.
    - Heilang does need accuracy crystals , depending on the spot 1-3 of them since sRMB has literally 0% built in acc sooo the roaring chest would help for some spots.
    - I spammed wRMB in cooldown in so many spots looking at those clips now , i kinda look forward to come back and try again some of those spots >.>
    - Is this BROKEN speed ? no , is it super chill to grind on with decent speed ? yes , that's the tldr

    • @Dekoan01
      @Dekoan01 Месяц назад

      Is this playstyle still viable?

    • @denizpellny
      @denizpellny 29 дней назад

      @@Dekoan01 you can still make around 1bil/h at hexe with capped gear t2 loot and agris but other classes almost double your trash

  • @GameruRc
    @GameruRc 3 месяца назад +43

    The true definition of enjoy the game, bless the Heilang enjoyer \o/

  • @chewbaccarampage
    @chewbaccarampage 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for all your work. This was really enjoyable to watch a scientific approach to this analysis.

  • @kevinvdb6
    @kevinvdb6 3 месяца назад +24

    Thank you, perfect timing to have something to watch during maintenance :)

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +2

      didn't even realize its maint , i saw my game freezing earlier while i was trying take SS for the thumbnail and wondered if my pc / game crashed for the 10th time cuz having this opened in an editor + the game + chrome is capping my ram so pc chokes xD

    • @quentincaldway
      @quentincaldway 3 месяца назад

      @@Duodecillol 😂

  • @guidocolombo8751
    @guidocolombo8751 3 месяца назад

    t
    hank you, perfect timing to have something to watch during maintenance :)

  • @JackJGX
    @JackJGX 2 месяца назад +8

    Ive been looking for a class that only requires 3-4 skills in its rotation for 2 weeks now, everytime I've asked on the discord I just get told there isn't any like that and finally I see this. I don't care if its 20% less efficient than some classes for me its all about how comfortable it is to play. Thanks for this I will be leveling a tamer tomorrow.

    • @uglyheadass1459
      @uglyheadass1459 Месяц назад

      Berserker only takes a few skills unless you’re end game

  • @eappelros7021
    @eappelros7021 3 месяца назад

    I am convinced! Went and tagged my tamer for times when i just cant be arsed to focus as much 😂

  • @walterdimmick653
    @walterdimmick653 2 месяца назад

    great video, will try for sure

  • @PracticalOrganics
    @PracticalOrganics 3 месяца назад

    Great work. Thanks

  • @IcewolfBrett
    @IcewolfBrett 3 месяца назад

    I love this! Thanks.

  • @fortuenii
    @fortuenii 2 месяца назад

    Interesting findings, appreciate the effort. I won't ever try it myself though.

  • @Shadow_Dragon55
    @Shadow_Dragon55 3 месяца назад

    You did it aaa thank you daddy ♥️

  • @fafibdo
    @fafibdo 3 месяца назад +12

    i've been playing succ tamu for quite a long time and altho i do think mounted heilang is a meme (and i wouldn't advocate it as a default for most anyone considering how strong succ tamers kit is in of itself)...... i think a lot of ppl who might hate on the concept of this video (i.e. getting something about our class nerfed, or causing it to become fotm etc) forget that there's a lot to be said about the viability of this for people who may have disabilities or just want something easier to grind on. you're definitely not going to clear as fast as you would off of heilang, but i'm sure there are a lot of people who just want to press fewer buttons or worry less about dying who will really love this, and i appreciate you taking the time and effort to make this. thanks duo!!!!!
    p.s. i've been subbed to u forever ty for always giving back to the community with ur thorough testing and kind demeanor xoxo

  • @DiaborMagics
    @DiaborMagics Месяц назад

    Ive been trying it and its so chill. Just... chill as fck. Mind you I always play squishy classes and often the bad grinder known as succ ranger (no WoTW spam, cause I dont like playing like that, I want to actually pew pew, otherwise i could just go awak instead) , but this is just super chill. Crazy. Sadly, cant mount heilang in black shrines. big sad. I dont like doing black shrines xD was hoping to make those less of a chore.

  • @Avoxon53
    @Avoxon53 3 месяца назад

    Hi you catched my interest on that type of playing, any new infos on how she is at lower gyfin, i mostly grind there atm, maybe i soon go to Hexe
    Tbh i see mysefl maining this if they give Heilang a slight buff
    And things like being able to repair while mounted and using rage while mounted etc

  • @asados_8345
    @asados_8345 2 месяца назад

    Good video. And so nice to see everyone still call him heilang and not Heuklang. Heuklang sounds off

  • @derfloh93
    @derfloh93 3 месяца назад +1

    making mounted tamers happy :D

  • @TheLilPorkChop
    @TheLilPorkChop 3 месяца назад

    im Awa Tamer, and this is nice and cursed. thank you for this content :D

  • @Esotericspirits
    @Esotericspirits 3 месяца назад

    Leveling a Tamer now :)

  • @BiscuitDelivery
    @BiscuitDelivery 3 месяца назад +4

    Finally a guide on how to mount your Tamer! Er, Heilang

    • @Coyes_
      @Coyes_ 3 месяца назад +1

      FBI Open up!

  • @mumupingu
    @mumupingu 3 месяца назад

    Finally ma lovely helpless class

  • @mayazus1
    @mayazus1 3 месяца назад

    Very interesting. I thought tamer was a dead class. 🤩

  • @user-th5vl6ef1l
    @user-th5vl6ef1l 3 месяца назад

    Finally 😊 ty

  • @Muux1408
    @Muux1408 3 месяца назад

    Mr Decil Master of sleeping while grinding

  • @quiknik22488
    @quiknik22488 2 месяца назад

    Just made a Succ tamer on season earlier this week xD

  • @nnem5550
    @nnem5550 3 месяца назад +8

    it would be very interesting to have a dps calculation for every class xD

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +3

      would be , maybe someone made an excel for that somewhere out there xD
      It's a good topic for a big project someday maybe but i would need to have every class , or make them as trials and then someone tell me how to do their combos , or just ask for clips from ppl who play them , who knows , maybe someday

    • @stardawggunrocks5152
      @stardawggunrocks5152 3 месяца назад

      I've had some luck extracting the data from screenshots of tooltips using ChatGPT and whatever the script was that it used seemed like it would be easy enough to apply in batch to all tooltips for a given class. I once scraped the XML files from BDO codex too (or something, been a minute) but it wasn't very well structured so I gave up on parsing it to get these numbers. Recording the duration of each skill is probably the easiest part, but this would be really interesting in PvE and PvP. I think once you get that, calculating the frames saved by cancels and hit acceleration would also be needed since a lot of classes like Awake tamer, succ Ninja etc. really rely on that to spike DPS and it definitely matters a lot at back attack spots like Darkseekers where if you can get that last bit of DPS out before they turn the whole pack dies for e.g.
      For a long time I've wanted to see a leaderboard for Marni's realm at each spot, with some mediocre epeen rewards for the most mobs killed in that 1h5m per class/spec every week for the most mobs killed. It would be good to just have a baseline for clear speed that would make not just the top level performance but also the range a bit easier to think about.

    • @dellehave7235
      @dellehave7235 3 месяца назад

      @@Duodecil let me help with that
      succ nova bad
      rest of the classes acceptable.
      done thank me later

  • @Angel-ij4bk
    @Angel-ij4bk 3 месяца назад

    As a cooked Tamer main thanks for this vid 🤗 I won't disrespect Heilang anymore and try to grind on him. About the guardian dmg she has access to self buff and rage so I think she gets a bit of an advantage vs mounted there

    • @martinh7204
      @martinh7204 3 месяца назад +1

      Guardian has an advantage over every other class there due to the gigantic aoe's she has :P

  • @berathen8940
    @berathen8940 3 месяца назад +2

    It is time! Finally the hours of hours after watching it on stream, now we have the video.

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад

      The nightmares i will have , spent 3 days just to edit this and record the missing clips and such , too much time @.@

    • @berathen8940
      @berathen8940 3 месяца назад

      @@Duodecil worth it

  • @NAHKbs
    @NAHKbs 2 месяца назад +1

    Decided to make a pve tamer gonna do it all mounted simply to avoid paying for armor for another character lol ty for thid

  • @CosyComfyDan
    @CosyComfyDan 3 месяца назад

    hi!! really nice video! Does heilang benefit from buff, like elvia and blue/red/purple from gyfin, while mounted ? Or is it like the awak witch invocation problem ? or is it just for DP buff ?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +2

      he does , u do more dmg with elvia buffs or the gyfin color/butcher buffs on.
      DP might also work but i just think it is a very ... how do i put it , when u are mounted your char takes maybe 5% of the dmg its supposed to while heilang is the main one being hit so i suppose DP makes YOU tanker but heilang has the same scaling like , i think when u SUMMON him he gets a very tiny bit of your DP if any at all....
      Let me rephrase this , YOU deal dmg , its not pet dmg , but HEILANG is being hit , so more AP = u do more dmg and buffs work but since your char doesnt TANK the dmg then DP buffs are kinda irrelevant.

    • @CosyComfyDan
      @CosyComfyDan 3 месяца назад

      @@Duodecil thx !

  • @prizm09
    @prizm09 21 день назад

    Is this farming still good enough as in the video after the recent changes to evasion, DP and accuracy patch from June?

  • @anwar5792
    @anwar5792 3 месяца назад

    SUPER, GOODJOB BRO

  • @Pazzlack93
    @Pazzlack93 Месяц назад +1

    Hello what crystal setup did you use?

  • @maximumplayer8849
    @maximumplayer8849 Месяц назад

    What about centaur ? with max stamina artifact and lightstone set

  • @LippyluluBDO-zt8on
    @LippyluluBDO-zt8on 3 месяца назад +7

    When I started BDO, I also grinded on Heilang, but everyone gaslighted me into thinking it's super bad. XD

    • @haze6015
      @haze6015 Месяц назад

      the inventor

  • @DEMONSPIKE
    @DEMONSPIKE 2 месяца назад

    is it still possible to grind on heilang or is it nerfed or so im a new player and i just want to have a chill class to climb up the rng ladder, with having fun etc

  • @balrock2764
    @balrock2764 Месяц назад +1

    Crystal Setup plz

  • @archanegelous2600
    @archanegelous2600 3 месяца назад

    As the most underrated chillest class in the game THANK YOU. Mounted tamer is the Most new player friendly. Most relaxed boss killer. Most fun to drive up a mountain and jump off with no damage. Easiest to undergear and still play Anywhere with friends. Oops,did you lose your horse? No problem. Tamer is just fun. I even created a guild for those tamer minded people that actually want to just have fun. I can always tag the latest meta class for 8-thumb grinding, but,meme or not, mounted tamer is just different. Thanks for the brief spotlight before the 'experts' dissect this.

    • @lionheart619js
      @lionheart619js 3 месяца назад

      what do you do for boss kill? i want to do it fast i dont have time to keep dying lol

    • @emeukal7683
      @emeukal7683 3 месяца назад

      How does tamer compare to meta like witch or nova?

  • @nuclearwinter4816
    @nuclearwinter4816 2 месяца назад

    the awakening guardian issue with the dps is that the combo is actually "hold shift, Q-R-LMB-RMB then s-rmb" and holding appropriately for flows, and repeat :P

    • @RyudenTamarashi
      @RyudenTamarashi 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm so confused by your comment. what exactly are you saying the skill order is? R does nothing, unless you're using R for rupture? and no sLMB att speed buff? Im very doubtful this is even close to the dps of either of the ones up there....

    • @nuclearwinter4816
      @nuclearwinter4816 2 месяца назад +1

      @@RyudenTamarashi sorry i meant shift-f not r, however youre absolutely correct its nowhere close, it is a brainless infinite meme rotation though :P

  • @RinFutakashi
    @RinFutakashi 2 месяца назад

    how do you keep urself from falling constantly?

  • @jonimohni
    @jonimohni 3 месяца назад

    "Crypt" 👏 SPOT 👏 REVIEW when? c:

  • @jivkoivanov7721
    @jivkoivanov7721 2 месяца назад

    Crypt mob has knockdown animation but dont have down attack modifier

  • @Antarctican
    @Antarctican 3 месяца назад

    Have you tried Heilang at highlands or tungrad ruins? Also just to double check, you get near 100% crit rate on S+RMB because add-ons (30%), level 5 (18%), and innate 50% crit on ability? Does the innate 50% crit also always apply even when on CD?

    • @boneylockz3967
      @boneylockz3967 3 месяца назад +2

      I'm a Succession Tamer Main. I can take my Tamer to Tungrad Ruins and see how Heilang does, but I won't take it to Highlands since I know for a fact Heilang will do poorly there since DPS is top priority at Highlands and if you have low DPS, you're losing out on LOTS of silver / loot per hour. And Heilang does 1/2 to 3/4 of Tamer's damage depending on the spot, how fast you can get back attacks, and less self buffs or debuffs since Heilang has his own set of self buffs and debuffs from Tamer herself. But from when I _did_ use Heilang a while back at Tungrad Ruins back when it was new, it took me pretty long to kill the mobs on him AND the mobs pretty much shredded his HP. Tungrad mobs do over 10k+ HP damage in 1 combo and can 1 shot you if you're CC or Back Attack. So if you were to take Heilang to Tungrad... from old experience...
      Pros: Can practice to see how the mobs skills look and see how they react to players to learn them better, and to see how tanky the monsters are and to figure out their mechanics if there are any.
      Cons: At high end spots, monsters typically have more Accuracy and Damage than low and mid end spots, so trying to face tank everything without actually dodging will result in Heilang dying or you losing DPS, Loot, or Time having to resummon and mount him and a chance of dying in terms of him dying and immediately after he dies, a mob uses a combo and now you're dead too.
      In conclusion, if you just wanna play a lazy class for high end and better damage and more HP and Self Buffs and Heals, you're better off playing Shai, Witch, or Wizard than Heilang on Tamer. 😂
      Remember this is coming from a 3 year old Tamer main.
      Edit: Did a hour of Tungrad this morning, and at my last 5min i decided to waste it on Heilang. And turns out i was correct. The mobs move much too fast so can't get many back attacks, and Heilang attacks too slow, so can't keep Tungrad mobs CC'd long enough before they realize they don't need a leader to lead then. lol Seems like it takes Heilang 2-3x as long to kill a pack of Tungrad mobs than it does Tamer to do so. I can shred the mobs as Tamer even if i forgot my buffs(Which i did in the first 4min of starting) and still hit the mobs harder than Heilang. Also, you might already be familar that some classes can initiate a quick CC on the weird skinny guy rendering a green buff to melt the minions faster. Welp, Heilang doesnt have enough DPS to CC the guy fast enough which means he need to manually kill each pack the slow casual way, which will result in a HUGE disadvantage and lost in silver/buff time. Still didn't try Highlands yet, but i still believe it isn't worth it since Highlands is all about speed and high DPS. But i'll try it real quick to see how Heilang does killing the legs, and then see if he can kill the body fast enough.
      Edit 2: Just took Heilang to Highlands, and i was right again, lmao
      Did a quick Core melt to see how he fares. I didn't have a Perfume, but i did have a Draught, and i gave Heilang Z Buff and Absorb Buff. Per each leg swipe, he did about 15-20% of it's HP in damage to the leg. And Did not Overload the Core at all.
      So i was curious and since by Draught buff just ended from Tungrad, all I had was Church, Food, and Tent buff left for Tamer, so I killed the leg and Core with her. Took her about 2-3 Leg swipes(Could have been 2 swipes but he auto swiped after swapping to Tamer from heilang) and i got the Leg to 50% HP per swipe with no buffs except the usual 1hr. buffs. lol As for the core, i managed to also Overload it, with no buffs as well. So seems like Heilang is good if you wanna be lazy and grind slowly, but Tamer is still the way to go OR actual meta classes that surpass her while still using less effort. lol
      Hope this helped you. xD

    • @Antarctican
      @Antarctican 3 месяца назад

      @@boneylockz3967 Oh I know heilang tamer is bad since it doesnt have ranged knockdown for the visionary or enough range dps to kill the legs quickly at highlands. I just want to know how bad in terms of trash per hour. Though they are changing tungrad ruins soon so maybe heilang will do slightly better than it can now. Despite knowing how much better tamer on foot is, I just like the idea of riding a mount into combat.

    • @boneylockz3967
      @boneylockz3967 2 месяца назад

      @@Antarctican Idk, me and my guild discussed the Tungrad Changes, seems more like a nerf than a buff to me. Feels like it has 3 nerfs and only 1 buff being that the skinny dude dies as 30% HP instead of 20% HP now lol
      I'll probably have to re-read it xD

  • @1felllikeaduck305
    @1felllikeaduck305 20 часов назад

    How fast is Heilang in terms of movement? I kinda wanna use this class with Heilang for chill Hystria grind.

  • @wildanfurqon73
    @wildanfurqon73 3 месяца назад

    is it work on yzrahid grind?

  • @imlambo7380
    @imlambo7380 2 месяца назад

    Attackspeed doesn't do anything in addons?

  • @PJ-zy4wo
    @PJ-zy4wo 26 дней назад

    If I had to chose between Succ Tamer or Succ Zerk to keep in perma season to grind which would you recommend?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  22 дня назад

      succ zerker is faster so that one , zerker train is unbeatable in season speed , maybe a pro awaken nova can match it or do better for WAY more effort so , zerker

  • @Noobster22
    @Noobster22 Месяц назад

    gona try this meme :D just need that 1 marni even start, i use this class just to ride around never try hard so gona tag it level up and set up for TAG event when it came

    • @Haze404
      @Haze404 Месяц назад

      Dont bother. From global labs it looks like its getting well nerfed. Unless you plan on grinding at mid game spots that you are already at the AP Limit.

  • @ACAZ030
    @ACAZ030 3 месяца назад

    Yzrahid Highlands grindable?

  • @gta246810
    @gta246810 2 месяца назад

    Hi man noice video do you have try to grind at Yzrahid ?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  2 месяца назад +1

      sadly i did not , i meant to at some point then delayed it and eventually forgot , i dont expect heilang to shine there since most of the speed gains come from the leg kill speed , maybe he could pull a decent 34-35k trash idk

    • @gta246810
      @gta246810 2 месяца назад

      @@Duodecil okey thanks :)

  • @Ginger2Rocker
    @Ginger2Rocker Месяц назад

    i tested this out at tungrad ruins, and the mobs there kill the doggo pretty fast

  • @sirvere4840
    @sirvere4840 3 месяца назад

    Duo, i have a question, you mentioned special deals and i do know what that is from back in the day however i have no idea how you go about turning it on today, so how do you turn special deals on? where is the option for it, are there new requirements for it?

    • @Venzie_AF
      @Venzie_AF 3 месяца назад +1

      You have to be in a party and click the cog wheel in the party list, you’ll see the two check boxes with 1M and Not Yet Set options. The silver option sells everything above that value on the CM, but the item grade option works a bit better if you’re trying to sell everything green grade and up. Just make sure one box is checked.

    • @sirvere4840
      @sirvere4840 3 месяца назад

      @@Venzie_AF thanks

  • @loky73
    @loky73 2 месяца назад

    any skills are locked ? ty

  • @Chaytona
    @Chaytona 3 месяца назад +3

    Yay finally something to link whenever the noobs come into the class discord asking about mounted pve! Im not an advocate for grinding on mounted but i do see a niche for it problem is that you have to pump your ap and spend less on dp and rush endgame spots because midgame cant be even remotely viable. I will say that normal succ in pve is quite good and to someone who knows the class they will find pve to be just as safe and easy as on mounted so honestly after a while i dont think mounted is viable but i can see a lot of lazy grinders swapping to it only to swap off bc they already have played pve tags like the casters. If pa decides to nerf it i wouldnt even care lol also bolt has no dmg falloff while jolt loses the crit only

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +1

      u sure ? i know bolt has no dmg reduction but on jolt it does say "less dmg in cooldown(pve)" in the description , is it rly full dmg but with no crit ?

    • @Chaytona
      @Chaytona 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Duodecil correction: jolt has a 45% dmg reduction on cd theres a spreadsheet for it

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +2

      @@Chaytona good to know , ty :o

    • @stardawggunrocks5152
      @stardawggunrocks5152 3 месяца назад +1

      was gonna say the same thing, really simplifies gear progression to just get more AP brackets and so many new players agonize over the decision to focus AP vs. DP, and when to switch back and forth to target the next tier of grind spot. This is super useful info. Also the shade throw at the start with "experienced tamers ALL say this isn't viable! Hold my shortsword, losers..." to paraphrase the beginning of the video is a great hook lol. Definitely got my attention!
      Definitely for a Tamer that is already good with the kit it's not a viable alternative, but it takes a long time to get to that point and maybe more ppl try Tamer from this. Great video man, ty

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +4

      @@stardawggunrocks5152 even for myself , i DO enjoy succ tamer's kit , i played it a bit here and there and definitely before i discovered heilang , im just barely a casual at it to a point where i get the same speeds for more effort atm , for me atm succ tamer is not rly faster other than gyfins where i did pull 30-32k on her . At some point i will put more hours into that but for now coming from awakening guardian , heilang is just so chill and easy to use that i cant help but love it . Just did 1 more hour today at trolls , pushed it to 9.2k trash now from the 8.6-8.7k in the video , its all about killing the first 3 adds faster and optimizing a bit more heilangs small aoes , im having fun on it and at the end of the day thats all that matters , i enjoy the game :)

  • @NAHKbs
    @NAHKbs 2 месяца назад

    BTW what song is this

  • @TethoSama
    @TethoSama Месяц назад

    Will you be doing another one due to the DR and Eva changes?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  14 дней назад +1

      most likely no , it was a one time thing , done , they even removed addons so sadly this is now even more of a meme than before , even less relevant on high end spots with uncapped ap , still works the same for stuff that's capped like calph elvia trolls but if u go to some 1.1k ap spot ... well , rip

  • @kristinafire5300
    @kristinafire5300 Месяц назад

    @Duodecil Hi! Still work after last patch?

  • @user-if4hz9pk4p
    @user-if4hz9pk4p 3 месяца назад

    "when it works, then it works"

  • @giraffesofluffy8070
    @giraffesofluffy8070 3 месяца назад

    I haven't played BDO in years how would tamer be for restarting?

    • @archanegelous2600
      @archanegelous2600 3 месяца назад

      Use her all you want as you ease back into the game. Mounted is like an easy button...or 4 buttons in this case. Don't expect to brag about your numbers to the meta classes, but your fingers will thank you. Lol.

  • @nagylevente5965
    @nagylevente5965 3 месяца назад

    I don't play any guardian or tamer, so I don't know the skill details, but the damage difference could be made back if guardian has high crit rate and accuracy on skills

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +1

      i forgot to bring it up , with the correct crit addon and lvl 5 crit heilang had 100% crit rate on the whole combo i do , guardian is 100% too and same for the tamer combo i showed , so crit isnt an issue .
      You can argue guardian has more crit dmg when she has her E buff up so that may make up a bit but honestly its mostly the big aoes , guardian just hits a lot at once so in many spots that's enough.
      I recently (past 2 weeks) went to Elvia Trolls and i can pull 8.6k-ish on both AW Guardian and Heilang so they seem pretty matched in a spot where mobs dont die too fast and u need back attacks and a combo.
      There may be more variations like some classes getting back attacks more reliably or enough accuracy to not need any acc crystals and such but still , im happy with this outcome , it proved what i kept telling ppl on stream over the past month or 2 , that in MOST cases heilang seems to be 10-20% slower and your normal grinder , regular classes , good tradeoff if u wanna turn off your brain and never worry about dying xD

    • @Kryforest
      @Kryforest 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Duodecil guardian also gets 10% crit dmg from her passive so that's gonna bump her numbers up by like 5%, tho it's still pretty close.

    • @Kryforest
      @Kryforest 3 месяца назад +1

      oh, also, heilang isn't affected by attack speed at all and you're not using BSR a lot of the time so your average dps decreases based on that.

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Kryforest forgot about the class passives to account for guardian, didnt even know she has crit dmg passive xD
      also yeah i know att speed doesnt work on heilang , neither does movement speed , it's why i made the 2 test with and without bsr buff , i just averaged them to have a somewhat fair comparison since in most high end spots u dont have 100% bsr uptime.
      With that say 5% more dmg o nguardian i can see her matching heilang in dps , its just her aoes are bigger so that helps

  • @jonasjp22
    @jonasjp22 3 месяца назад

    Every time when someone ask me "Tamer Succ or Awk?", I answer Heilang Succ

  • @joshuaneu4106
    @joshuaneu4106 Месяц назад

    Hey ho is that true that the skill add ons for heilang are not worked anymore after the new patch on global lab i try it and i dont get any skill add ons if i grind with heilang ?

    • @Haze404
      @Haze404 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah currently on global labs. You can't proc addons while mounted. There is no option to select mounted skills for addons. And even if there was the ability to select mounted skills for addons, you then miss addons for succ skills. Massive Mounted Tamer Nerf.. Rip

  • @zozia5105
    @zozia5105 3 месяца назад

    I thought that every class can be more easy if their AP and DP more than 300 AP ++ and 400 DP ++.. especially have triple Deboreka.. like yours.. which the problem is while the AP and DP lower than 300 AP and 400 DP and doesnt have Triple Deboreka... what will you do..

  • @TheFangs922
    @TheFangs922 3 месяца назад

    wow, now im gonna share this to my tamer friends, will they die at playing it "wrong"

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад

      kinda happy i did the dmg numbers for tamer too , at least i get some confirmation that YES tamer is supposed to grind faster than heilang , for me personally i didn;t bring it up in the video but other than Gyfins where i got 34k trash in a VERY rng carried hour or 30kish usually , everywhere else i took succ tamer for a brief session here and there she did the same as heilang speed wise , and i just wrote it off as too much effort to MAYBE be faster , i know she can be but i guess i suck at it atm xD

  • @ykcasual
    @ykcasual Месяц назад

    make a shortcut for tent repair, you dont have to dismount

  • @DiaborMagics
    @DiaborMagics Месяц назад

    I think I fail hard at orcs; I hear everyone getting such high numbers and with 301 AP Meagu I got at most.. I think 18k? With lvl 2 loot scroll and I think even agris, as short as that lasts anyway. Absolutely dog dung numbers. Been a while since I've last been there, but my numbers sucked with all 3 classes I tried there so I just do stuff wrong I guess xD
    Got 316 AP now.. and what am I grinding? Weaker Elvia Serendia spots because I still need my cups lmao. Only have the neck one.
    (Yeah I know that prob plays a part in my grinding efficiency as well, but c'mon it's orcs. 301 AP with a couple BIS and couple decent pre-loml pve crystals and triple pen blackstar and tent buff should be plenty right... They're pretty weak. I just do terribly there. Don't think capped 60 fps with some dips is a good excuse either xD I just suck)

    • @victorgallet3174
      @victorgallet3174 16 дней назад

      do you got T4 /T5 pets? at this point, that's the bottleneck.

  • @iTsTiTz
    @iTsTiTz 3 месяца назад +1

    Ur tamer looks like Micheal Jackson 😂

  • @seltsamerkerl9808
    @seltsamerkerl9808 2 месяца назад

    Just play shai on any dehkia spot. Buff up every 60 secs and hold rmb in between

  • @almightysun7407
    @almightysun7407 3 месяца назад

    After this video PA for sure will nerf tamer pet or make him not mounting :D

  • @emeukal7683
    @emeukal7683 3 месяца назад

    So looking at all the praise, caj succ tamer unmounted really compete with the s-tiers? Heilang is competing with suck zerker number's 😂

  • @user-gi6hd5ol6f
    @user-gi6hd5ol6f 3 месяца назад

    This is somehow, both pathetic and amazing at the same time, and it makes me smile... Truly
    I think its nice that you can do this to a degree where you're enjoying the game, but I think this exercises one of the biggest problems with BDO as a game. There is way too much stuff that goes under the radar
    Well whatever, if it aint broke, dont fix it. If it dont need fix... don't break it

  • @ACAZ030
    @ACAZ030 3 месяца назад

    reroll incomming

  • @zoltanvince3094
    @zoltanvince3094 3 месяца назад

    This spec is still unfinished with too many Qol problems. Skill buffs/debuffs not working. U cant interract with objects which kills all elvia spots. Clunky movement/pozitioning combined with unfinished/nerfed heilang command skills kills this spec.
    The only spot i was intrested is Gyfin; just to see how u manage movement.
    The only skillbuff is working is on Trample/space(20% crit), any reason for not using it?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад

      bad dmg and the crit buff is useless , as long as u have lvl 5 crit and 30% addon u have 100% crit rate with 1 skill being at 98% , not worth using space unless u need to cc the city of the dead wizard

    • @zoltanvince3094
      @zoltanvince3094 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Duodecilok, thx

  • @frootytoot
    @frootytoot 3 месяца назад +1

    Tamer is like sm better unmounted tho 😭😭

  • @thanhhieu9756
    @thanhhieu9756 2 месяца назад

    make clip all time to grind 1h on Crypt and Ash dehkia with this style, and get 16k at Crypt and 11k at Dehkia Ash sir :))))

  • @ThomasPlaysYT
    @ThomasPlaysYT 3 месяца назад +1

    should we expect nerfs now @duodecil?

  • @AdamNisenziSpisak
    @AdamNisenziSpisak 3 месяца назад +5

    watch em gut tamer in coming months bcs ppl are noticing the heilang is actualy viable

    • @Finnyzation
      @Finnyzation 3 месяца назад

      im trying it tomorrow in hexe xd

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 3 месяца назад +1

      The cool thing is they put this guide in the launcher

  • @Haze404
    @Haze404 Месяц назад +1

    Any new viewers watching this video. Mounted tamer is looking to be nerfed when the new evasion / dr update comes out. Unless they add Heilang Skills to the addon skill screen. Mounted skills will no longer proc the corresponding skill addons. Which is a huge nerf. Rip Heilang.

    • @DiaborMagics
      @DiaborMagics Месяц назад

      Oof that sucks. In 2016 I made Tamer first because of Heilang but it was underwhelming beyond belief so I swapped classes. I've been seeing Tamers around a bit more and it seems a lot more fun now so I was gonna try to get into it again. Right before a big nerf though? Ugh... >.< So many classes and specs I like are meh... (prime example being succ Ranger)

    • @Haze404
      @Haze404 Месяц назад

      @@DiaborMagics my first Two classes I made were ranger and tamer hahahaha that's crack up. Yeah it's a big mounted tamer L. But won't know for sure till patch goes live... 🤞

    • @user-ri2ce5cu4w
      @user-ri2ce5cu4w Месяц назад

      I trust you bro, but could you post a link to the source for that? I tried looking at the global patches for the rework but I didn’t see that mentioned. Been thinking if I should try tamer cause of this so I don’t wanna invest if they do nerf lol

  • @dellehave7235
    @dellehave7235 2 месяца назад

    me slow cuz BDO break. mandatory strim when comment and also mandatory Still better than succ nova comment.
    hope your well tho.
    also maybe use branding on armor and weapons if you got some of those for free might help with the gear break

  • @rodcon75025
    @rodcon75025 3 месяца назад +1

    This is why I have 3+ Tamer alts. Shes good for boss fights too and requires minimal gear. I ran my main tamer at ash forest primarily when my hands were tired or I wasn't able to pay full attention to the grind. Shes slower than my main grinder by a good 20-30%

    • @emeukal7683
      @emeukal7683 3 месяца назад

      Do U tag meta classes too sometimes? How does tamer compare?

    • @rodcon75025
      @rodcon75025 3 месяца назад

      @@emeukal7683 my current tag is woosa + witch, I change them around and really got into tamer after a tag event and realized I couldn’t die. I stopped playing tamer as a tag when I left ash forest. It was easy to just chill and get Debo drops when I barely had the gear to be there. I was just on the edge of the reqs. Now at 310 ap and still use tamers as boss kill alts. I was considering brining my tamer tag back when this video popped up. Duo is way better at it than I was so I’m definitely testing his combos and build out next time I swap my tags… problem is like he said the AOE is small and a lot of spots really benefit from massive AOEs. So tamer would always be something I’d run if I wasn’t trying to push it very hard. I played valk for about 4 years so I’m used to being at the bottom of the meta. I’m pretty sure I could pull more trash on my valk. But yea if you did a lot or your hands hurt from grinding it’s really nice. Plus no one messes with me tamer.😝
      Tamer is my slowest grinder except succ nova

  • @psvpl
    @psvpl 3 месяца назад

    Heilang is not called heilang anymore. ;)

  • @giao211
    @giao211 Месяц назад

    Heilang Skill Addons not working

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  14 дней назад

      nope , they got removed , although after 3 weeks i imagine u figured that out on your own xD

  • @ketzertv
    @ketzertv 2 месяца назад +1

    - Heilang: Void Lightning - All defense increase effects deleted
    - Heilang: Throat-Burn - All defense increase effects deleted
    - Rain Curtain - All defense increase effects removed
    - Flow: Soaring Strike - All defense increase effects deleted
    - Legendary Beast Dance: Echo - All defense increase effects deleted
    - Legendary Beast’s Claw - All defense increase effects deleted
    - Prime: Void Lightning - All defense increase effects deleted
    - Horror Slam, Resonance - Magic defense increase effect removed
    cya Tiger baby :(

  • @AnglerAdventure77
    @AnglerAdventure77 2 месяца назад

    Killed bosses while mounted. I play tamer since its release on console and played her only since.

  • @jmane1916
    @jmane1916 3 месяца назад

    Does your ap matter to the wolf or no?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад

      yes it does , that's why i use elixir rot , so go ap monkey with 1 elkar or more if u need more accuracy , i run 1-3 acc crystals depending on spot and then the rest full ap

    • @jmane1916
      @jmane1916 3 месяца назад

      Also can you carry more loot while on it or you still have to empty time to time?

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад

      @@jmane1916 a little , u don't get overweight slow down effect on the first stage but after 125% i can no longer dash or do skills so u still have to rely on maids or the horse

  • @Esoteric52
    @Esoteric52 3 месяца назад

    Who is Pavel? :-?

  • @MarcusJohhansson
    @MarcusJohhansson 2 месяца назад

    im returning player my ap/dp is 269/336 succ maegu where should i go grind ?

  • @grimcatzsaltmaster6195
    @grimcatzsaltmaster6195 18 дней назад

    so sad that this got nerf seem to be enjoyable

  • @maximumplayer8849
    @maximumplayer8849 Месяц назад

    They nerfed our addons bro they nerfed :( We can't get addon buff on heilang now.

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  14 дней назад +1

      BDO hates fun , if u have too much fun they nerf it o-o

  • @gabrielemilione4557
    @gabrielemilione4557 2 месяца назад

    trash hour dark seeker?

  • @excederus7001
    @excederus7001 2 месяца назад

    BDO players when Shai can grind Hexe without DP because of stiff: NOOOOO. Shai is broken. Nerf Shai. You shouldn't be able to grind Hexe with season Gear. - BDO players when Tamer can grind Hexe without DP because of Heilang: Haha Tamer still worst class.

  • @konjikitakanashi9562
    @konjikitakanashi9562 3 месяца назад

    Succ nova is better >:3

  • @risu028
    @risu028 3 месяца назад +1

    tamer is not meta class , but whenever she got a buff, the class just getting better everytime

    • @Duodecil
      @Duodecil  3 месяца назад +4

      true , in fact I pray they buff tamer , cuz every heilang skill scales off of tamers main skills so if they buff tamer it may indirectly also buff heilang xD

  • @juanpablomenesespinto6810
    @juanpablomenesespinto6810 3 месяца назад

    Bro to have 1570 days and you have that gear?

  • @Doomtrain609
    @Doomtrain609 3 месяца назад

    and just like that, tamer is gonna get nerfed again