PSA: marni rotation is NOT the best there is. The best orc grinders all do 9+12, aka the village rotation across the ravine from the node manager plus extension. People are getting closer to/almost 40k trash there. The rotation is also better money/h because it has many more wizards, which results in more void seeds. However, the only people who can grind it efficiently are gearlords with a minmaxed demihuman damage setup and an optimal orcs class (read: maegu or nova).
Even on my awaken warrior I can do that and I hit ap cap already and I’m only 289/381. You don’t have to be a gigagearlord to make a bil an hour at orcs. Plus orcs is just a tad over rated imo. I made 1.6 bil an hour for 3 hours straight at Elvia rhutums, and you don’t have to move anywhere, you just sit at the same spot.
@@kurrgal7691 the way the spot works, there’s a version of the mob with like “violent” or something above their name, you kill them and some crates spawn, you just sit in the same spot killing waves of enemies, at the end you break the crates, so you don’t have to move anywhere
Thank youuu! Would you also upload a raw footage of your grinding sessions? just 1 hour of whatever spot you are grinding in each of this analysis videos and mention in the video description what gear you were using(main gear, season "standard" or season "cheat" gear).
Hello friend, I have big issue with my guardian on this spot. Followed your guide with gear, all consumables, buffs and still those big boiz are slaughtering my guardian mommy. I have full tuvala gear. I have not finished all quests to get perma bonuses to my characters, also another difference is that i have 61 lvl. Can you share your links to gamroth profiles?
Im just going to assume they nerfed shard drops since this came out because even on a 1b hour I only get 9-12 Shards. One time I got 15. and its the same or worse at Biraghi.
I don't know if I am doing something wrong but I can barely get that many 3m and 10m trash pieces to drop that much. Idk I hit AP caps and get around the same trashloot but the other pieces are a rarity for me or something
Hello, I would like to know if you will be a guide for Olukitas, in acolitos with the guardian. Thank you very much for your guides, I really like how you use the guardian, I can't go that fast T.T I hope the translation is good. luck
good stuff. I have 308 aap and when i have that lotml ap buff i have 309 ap and the best i managed was 36.5k trash with awa guardian but usually, the most i pull is between 34k to 35.5 k trash. I rarely get lower than that and rarely get above that. I use all possible buffs, i use tent buff, 50 mil tent buff, i use both church buffs and i use furniture buff + 15 ap and i usually use frenzy drought combined with either the 20 ap buff or the accuracy perfume, depends but numbers are similar and garmoth says i make between 1.3 to 1.5 bil per hour.
21:00 is it worth activationg a lvl 1 loot scroll for the 100% drop rate for timefilled stones or tent buff? edit did 1h 1min at polly marni and got 1136 time filled (this includes the season region quest max 180 timefiled stones for the 2 quest rewards for kills)
Because sheet ap doesn't affect your damage to monsters, the video takes you through how he calculates his actual ap against orcs (9:20) and is close enough to the cap to have a reasonable grind at orcs.
thank you for making videos and explaining like this! do you think that scholars can come and grind here in season gear? i've heard they have low pve damage at certain points
ruclips.net/video/0dYZ8-NuDFE/видео.html for some classes it matters cuz it makes skills go out faster = more grinding speed for me on guardian i suspect from 60-165 i would get MAYBE 5-10% more speed which i am willing to live without xD
@@joshn2390it shouldnt count as silver per hr. This is the kind of bs this community always does. It should be separate and be very pointed out its separate. But 1bil, silver gets the views I guess.
@@Anomalyy666 slower classes or ones with less aoe, so like succ striker, succ nova etc Edit: you can still farm viably on almost every class, it’s just a spot where high mobility + aoe (like awake sage or awake guardian) give NOTICEABLY more trash/hr
never tried it , i did 1h on jade after the guardian pve buffs a few weeks ago and got like 30 or 31k trash on stream out of marni and deemed it good enough and moved on , i should return with the new class cuz of her faster pack to pack movement she could do very well there o-o
Exquisite cron is better if you are ap capped because it gives % damage. Also why are you using tachros stone if youre not grinding for xp. Thats a waste 😢
Do you know that you can grind 10 minutes in marni room while you have a weapon buff. And as soon as it drops you jump out to normal rotation and that way you grind as much as you want.
I mean gl sustaining spot in same channel if you just pop in and out of marni like this. Unless you are very confident in your dfs abilities@@HaPKoMaTo3
Tuvala Maegu Succession here with an average of ~26,000 trash per hour with L2 and 300% drop rate. I'm confused about how you manage to get around 20 shards per hour. I usually get an average of 12 shards per hour, despite having the same trash output and drop rate as you.
ruclips.net/video/0dYZ8-NuDFE/видео.html according to this yes , on some classes more than on others cuz skills go out faster on guardian from my own experience it feels a bit snappier but not huge , i predict 60->165 for me is like 5-10%
ppl with this logic genuinely confuse me , its like saying calpheon elvia is trash cuz the despair is a "cup item" yet it gets a pass cuz it doesnt need to be combined , or the flame from jade forest should be worthless cuz u cant sell a flame unless u have 100 of them , or valuing pity pieces cuz u can sell inf potions , or the turos flame too , or even combinable shards for tungrad rings , i know u can conveniently just sell them but my point is cups are money , ppl should just learn to have some patience instead of instant gratification o-o with 20 shards/h or even 25/h u can do 5h biraghi 5h orcs and in 10h u got a 5bil cup to sell , most bdo players can grind 10h a week so its not a big ask , its jsut so strange how everyone wants instand liquid silver and everything else has no value in their eyes
If you were to farm Stars End, for 4 hrs, get 3 distos, smack them together get a duo. Would you include that as part of the silver/hr average. Just curious. Its the same concept as shards value.
Shouldn't have said "uncapped" cuz while i removed my own self FPS cap the game was still capped to my monitor's 165hz refresh rate , still better than last time's 120fps , and yes i had 1 pack missing cuz 10/10 server xD Maybe i should cheat and start WITH a weapon or WITH lights popped so ican get 35-36k trash o-o BTW remember to get Marni Stones , this time i didn't point it out but i did buy and turn in marnis for every hour , 5-6 of them every hour so 5-6 shards extra P.S. I noticed i keep saying "weapon" cuz the buff used to be named elvia weapon but nowadays thats just the "Elvia buff" or spirit buff or smth like that so ... just so u know , weapon is elvia buff.
I don't understand how some people click "dislike" button for this kind of videos... OF course this will increase people in the spot, but I highly doubt that everyone watching this video is able to achieve 1,5 billion/hr... Average human can do maybe 1 - 1,2 billion/hr
330 if you're grinding on a regular server (300 from regular buffs, 20 from black shrine buff and 10 from node), 380 if on arsha. Castle buff would add another 50%, but the hard cap is 400%.
I tried so many times at Elvia Orcs, but I make more money at Centaurs which is on average 600 mil per hour I think. Maybe BDO is retarded and nerfed me only, but this is why I quit BDO. Too much work for little rewards or gains.
Maybe bad rotation or idk i cant say the class is bad , i can easily do 31-33k nowadays on main gear guardian , idk if u AP capped the spot either , that is important , to hit that ap cap . Also having 3 elvia buffs/h so 30mins/60. 18k is just too low but again im not u so idk what u are doing wrong :/
@@Duodecil must be the ap cap im not hitting i think or my acc my be low hmm ill figure it out thanks for the fast reply plus im doing the marni rotation
I get 29.8k trask (Marni) with yellow and agris on the ogres ( with not so many ogres spawns iam around 29.2k). 283 ap 367 DP , only with simple cron and giant draught. The class is not the best for orcs but its decent enough ( for me) with agris coin i got 44.7k trash haha just fun to do from time to time
@@svenbezemer5383bro I do 25k on awak musa 288 ap😢 I dont have lightstone combo and a midtier crystal. Do you think those Will make a difference? Or am I just bad😂
@@samuelrobitaille8009 yes they wil make a difference! specialy those back attacks wil hit alot harder. Maybe you can watch other awa musa grind orcs, think the class is perfect for other rotations instead of the marni, but i can be wrong.
Duo used to be the top BDO content creators in the best moments of BDO now he comes back woot woot. A true Passionist.
Your work helps me so much, honestly I am deeply grateful!
as always very informative and accurate, thank you for the hard work you put into these videos.
Came back to the game after 3 years and I'm glad too see you're still at it. Thx for all the great vids.
PSA: marni rotation is NOT the best there is. The best orc grinders all do 9+12, aka the village rotation across the ravine from the node manager plus extension. People are getting closer to/almost 40k trash there. The rotation is also better money/h because it has many more wizards, which results in more void seeds. However, the only people who can grind it efficiently are gearlords with a minmaxed demihuman damage setup and an optimal orcs class (read: maegu or nova).
Facts
Even on my awaken warrior I can do that and I hit ap cap already and I’m only 289/381. You don’t have to be a gigagearlord to make a bil an hour at orcs. Plus orcs is just a tad over rated imo. I made 1.6 bil an hour for 3 hours straight at Elvia rhutums, and you don’t have to move anywhere, you just sit at the same spot.
@@xKalxElx could you explain that?
@@kurrgal7691 the way the spot works, there’s a version of the mob with like “violent” or something above their name, you kill them and some crates spawn, you just sit in the same spot killing waves of enemies, at the end you break the crates, so you don’t have to move anywhere
@@xKalxElx I will give it a try thanks
Omg Duo I'm glad ur alive and well thanks for the hard work you do
finally a good place to grind for me, thanks for the content duodecil.
I come back to BDO after 2 years and I was sad when you don’t make videos and now you’re back!
Thank youuu! Would you also upload a raw footage of your grinding sessions? just 1 hour of whatever spot you are grinding in each of this analysis videos and mention in the video description what gear you were using(main gear, season "standard" or season "cheat" gear).
2 videos in a row? MAAAAANNNNN
Dude nice to see you are bacc! Hehe
The season project looks pretty cool!
Hahahah😂😂. Your capt pet. Mr. Rapolas. Love it hahaha
Hello friend, I have big issue with my guardian on this spot. Followed your guide with gear, all consumables, buffs and still those big boiz are slaughtering my guardian mommy. I have full tuvala gear. I have not finished all quests to get perma bonuses to my characters, also another difference is that i have 61 lvl. Can you share your links to gamroth profiles?
Great video! I'm interested to see what I can do at orcs with my new season Scholar!
By far the best content creator.
welcome back bro
Im just going to assume they nerfed shard drops since this came out because even on a 1b hour I only get 9-12 Shards. One time I got 15. and its the same or worse at Biraghi.
Perfume of Swiftness is the real MVP
I don't know if I am doing something wrong but I can barely get that many 3m and 10m trash pieces to drop that much. Idk I hit AP caps and get around the same trashloot but the other pieces are a rarity for me or something
Your a dope dude, respect
bruh ur guides are carrying me so hard. I was killing themon my striker in the same gear like fuck ur a based blessing
love ya vids duo !
Orc camp video? Ah shit, here we go again....
Time to watch the new video about this spot again I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yup , its like a ritual at this point , gotta have my yearly "Orcs is STILL Broken" video xD
Engagement confirmed
I like the video have your free engagement. Thankyou.
was wondering if anyone had class suggestions for orcs?
With succ woosa 291ap i barely pulled over 14k trash, not sure exactly what im doin wrong.
Helo, do u think ur consumables would work on Warrior too?
How much exp you get per 1h from 64 lvl to 65 and with what % buffs exp? thx
Hello, I would like to know if you will be a guide for Olukitas, in acolitos with the guardian. Thank you very much for your guides, I really like how you use the guardian, I can't go that fast T.T I hope the translation is good. luck
rn Awe Guardian is better then succ?
I only do around 23000 on awk Nova with a yellow scroll. 293/381, any tips? I don't grind often so it could just be experience I guess.
im about the same with 301 ap, probably need proper crystals for demi human damage and proper artifacts for demi human as well
awk nova should replicate Pawelbdo
Watch Pawel.
@Nesot @qowkerf thanks guys!
I'm glad i went to every stream and ask when yt when yt when yt guardian xd
good stuff. I have 308 aap and when i have that lotml ap buff i have 309 ap and the best i managed was 36.5k trash with awa guardian but usually, the most i pull is between 34k to 35.5 k trash. I rarely get lower than that and rarely get above that. I use all possible buffs, i use tent buff, 50 mil tent buff, i use both church buffs and i use furniture buff + 15 ap and i usually use frenzy drought combined with either the 20 ap buff or the accuracy perfume, depends but numbers are similar and garmoth says i make between 1.3 to 1.5 bil per hour.
Is succ zerker good at orcs?
@@Anomalyy666 Ridiculously GOOD
Why do you have mobs in Marni-Realm behing the castle ( North-West) and i only have a little grp in the east?
21:00 is it worth activationg a lvl 1 loot scroll for the 100% drop rate for timefilled stones or tent buff?
edit did 1h 1min at polly marni and got 1136 time filled (this includes the season region quest max 180 timefiled stones for the 2 quest rewards for kills)
where can i get those crystals of Carnage?
How is shards of furious night valued at 24 mil ?
its 280 AP recommended, how do you grind there on full season gear?
Because sheet ap doesn't affect your damage to monsters, the video takes you through how he calculates his actual ap against orcs (9:20) and is close enough to the cap to have a reasonable grind at orcs.
“Engagement”
Yellow or blue is the same thing, only duration is different.
YEASSSSSSSSS!
i will be nice if u put all these gear and buff in link for these type of videos
How the hell you are getting avg of 20+ shard for the cup while i get roughly 10 for 24k trash on avg with consistent 300%
marni stones can be exchanged for them, i can usually fill about 4-5/h each is another cookie
@@TheIgni oh i totaly forgot those, thanks for brining it up
Liked, commenting, engaging....
Can you do this with seasonal gear on other classes than guardian
You can't really value shards that high, cuz for half of the cup u need to grind on spots where the money is much worse.
Long time no see, Boss! All fine? :)
I need yall help I do only 25k at 288 kutum, is it normal?I dont have lightstone demihuman damage only full ap one
when new life skills , G50 + ...etc....not much to do if ur a lifeskiller...
They dont GAF about us man. Its so bad. Lifeskills need a total rework for fun and profitability
hello, can you give some link to your rotation and addon?
thank you for making videos and explaining like this! do you think that scholars can come and grind here in season gear? i've heard they have low pve damage at certain points
TY
Engagement !!!
engaging
Huge
i love uowrk
self AP buff and Rapture stacks bro :)
E buff and Rapture dont , they overwrite each other , or at least E overwrites Rapture
@@Duodecil
they are two different buffs: monsters and all ap, in the my stat tab I see them both and in fact I see two icons on the screen
U have combo guardian awk video?
you grind Orc with season gear... is this just guardian or other classes as well.
Dehkia Thornwood video when ?
Hey, what does it change to have more fps, i mean i'm at 120 cauz my monitor is fixed at that, is it still better to have more ?
ruclips.net/video/0dYZ8-NuDFE/видео.html
for some classes it matters cuz it makes skills go out faster = more grinding speed
for me on guardian i suspect from 60-165 i would get MAYBE 5-10% more speed which i am willing to live without xD
This is my end of the deal I didn't sign for but nevertheless I feel like I'm agreeing with :)
With season gear u will get one shot dead
i make 26 or 27k with gold ls and after sell is only 600 or 700 mil where garmoth put 1.4 or 1.3 bill??
Shards are a large chunk of the value due to cups and garmoth values them, but you have to not just grind orcs to make them.
@@joshn2390it shouldnt count as silver per hr. This is the kind of bs this community always does.
It should be separate and be very pointed out its separate. But 1bil, silver gets the views I guess.
I need to change my build, i can't make more than 19k with 290 ap /370 dp
Orcs is def a spot where some classes aren’t great at it
Could be any # of things, just figured that was worth mentioning
@@crunkledorewhat classes aren't good at it?
@@Anomalyy666 slower classes or ones with less aoe, so like succ striker, succ nova etc
Edit: you can still farm viably on almost every class, it’s just a spot where high mobility + aoe (like awake sage or awake guardian) give NOTICEABLY more trash/hr
@@crunkledore I'm a suc zerker. Is he good?
@@Anomalyy666 succ zerk is one of the best grinders in the game, you’re good to do whatever your gear lets you 🫡
Pog
How did you get those crystals?
i assume u mean the demihuman crystals , sadly they are a relic of the past , deleted , removed.
wich font do you use?
I wonder jade forest is crazy good in marni 🤔
never tried it , i did 1h on jade after the guardian pve buffs a few weeks ago and got like 30 or 31k trash on stream out of marni and deemed it good enough and moved on , i should return with the new class cuz of her faster pack to pack movement she could do very well there o-o
@@Duodecil pleaseeee try it
@@Duodecil would be interesting to see 👀
Exquisite cron is better if you are ap capped because it gives % damage. Also why are you using tachros stone if youre not grinding for xp. Thats a waste 😢
Can i go there with 274/275 331 dp as sage/ musa?
it not great money at that gear Im 278/341 dp musa and I kill kinda slow tbh
@@trevoncarter6571 ye though so
Awk guardian is so op ?
orcs out of marni=dfs
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Do you know that you can grind 10 minutes in marni room while you have a weapon buff. And as soon as it drops you jump out to normal rotation and that way you grind as much as you want.
Hmm? What do you mean exactly, the buffs drop you jump into normal rotation for…another weapon buff?
I don't get it either, what are you saying exactly. I don't think you can avoid the weapon buff cooldown.
@@2munir no, you don't avoid weapon coold down, you just grind regular rotation with out it. Waiting for CD.
I mean gl sustaining spot in same channel if you just pop in and out of marni like this. Unless you are very confident in your dfs abilities@@HaPKoMaTo3
Tuvala Maegu Succession here with an average of ~26,000 trash per hour with L2 and 300% drop rate.
I'm confused about how you manage to get around 20 shards per hour. I usually get an average of 12 shards per hour, despite having the same trash output and drop rate as you.
i include marni stones too , which is 5-6 per hour , the rest is rng i suppose xD
How the fk do i get there bro
I pull 26k with my main gear... rip 730gs
But biragi with season gear is impossible, all the mobs are purple
Just because its seasonal gear doesn't mean you shouldn't be 62 or higher. that helps with elvia
Primal giant please
what is the preferred DP on this spot? I'm an archer 360 DP currently, too squishy
Pretty much in same situation...
Also archer... Too scared to even try it atm.
Does FPS affect your TL?
ruclips.net/video/0dYZ8-NuDFE/видео.html
according to this yes , on some classes more than on others cuz skills go out faster
on guardian from my own experience it feels a bit snappier but not huge , i predict 60->165 for me is like 5-10%
99 percent of people are not doing orcs with slightly better then season gear
So you included cup crafting as silver per hour?
Thats how this spot gets inflated to 1bil. Got it. Its not 1bil.
ppl with this logic genuinely confuse me , its like saying calpheon elvia is trash cuz the despair is a "cup item" yet it gets a pass cuz it doesnt need to be combined , or the flame from jade forest should be worthless cuz u cant sell a flame unless u have 100 of them , or valuing pity pieces cuz u can sell inf potions , or the turos flame too , or even combinable shards for tungrad rings , i know u can conveniently just sell them but my point is cups are money , ppl should just learn to have some patience instead of instant gratification o-o
with 20 shards/h or even 25/h u can do 5h biraghi 5h orcs and in 10h u got a 5bil cup to sell , most bdo players can grind 10h a week so its not a big ask , its jsut so strange how everyone wants instand liquid silver and everything else has no value in their eyes
@@Duodecil gets a pass cuz it can be sold.
You need 3 different shards too, to even sell one profitable cup.
And because cups have to be farmed in 3 different areas, the silver/ hr portion of the cups, should be divided by 3.
If you were to farm Stars End, for 4 hrs, get 3 distos, smack them together get a duo. Would you include that as part of the silver/hr average. Just curious.
Its the same concept as shards value.
please include addons
6:18 , yw o-o
wow i dont think i make 600 mill/hr here lol..
i make 34k/35k on awk sage and i make 1.2/1.3bill per h
HAH i grind slower but get blessed with better RNG xD
Or u just had less drop rate o-o
sussy boy ❤@@Duodecil
Shouldn't have said "uncapped" cuz while i removed my own self FPS cap the game was still capped to my monitor's 165hz refresh rate , still better than last time's 120fps , and yes i had 1 pack missing cuz 10/10 server xD
Maybe i should cheat and start WITH a weapon or WITH lights popped so ican get 35-36k trash o-o
BTW remember to get Marni Stones , this time i didn't point it out but i did buy and turn in marnis for every hour , 5-6 of them every hour so 5-6 shards extra
P.S. I noticed i keep saying "weapon" cuz the buff used to be named elvia weapon but nowadays thats just the "Elvia buff" or spirit buff or smth like that so ... just so u know , weapon is elvia buff.
just do it
I don't understand how some people click "dislike" button for this kind of videos... OF course this will increase people in the spot, but I highly doubt that everyone watching this video is able to achieve 1,5 billion/hr... Average human can do maybe 1 - 1,2 billion/hr
your numbers on season gear is very sketchy. There's no way youll getting 25-27K per hour using season gear bro. Inflated numberzzzzzzzz
What is the max. drops rate that u can stack? I had the idea that 300% was but im not sure
330 if you're grinding on a regular server (300 from regular buffs, 20 from black shrine buff and 10 from node), 380 if on arsha. Castle buff would add another 50%, but the hard cap is 400%.
I tried so many times at Elvia Orcs, but I make more money at Centaurs which is on average 600 mil per hour I think. Maybe BDO is retarded and nerfed me only, but this is why I quit BDO. Too much work for little rewards or gains.
i have no idea how youre getting 22k plus on season gear, when im at 282ap 281 aap and im getting like 18k lol on a succ lahn
Maybe bad rotation or idk i cant say the class is bad , i can easily do 31-33k nowadays on main gear guardian , idk if u AP capped the spot either , that is important , to hit that ap cap . Also having 3 elvia buffs/h so 30mins/60.
18k is just too low but again im not u so idk what u are doing wrong :/
@@Duodecil must be the ap cap im not hitting i think or my acc my be low hmm ill figure it out thanks for the fast reply plus im doing the marni rotation
I wish I could try this on DK.
To bad the only self-buff she gets is 10% attack speed, she doesn’t get any AP buffs outside of her “Z” buff.
I love dark knight especially now with the awakening buffs
I get 29.8k trask (Marni) with yellow and agris on the ogres ( with not so many ogres spawns iam around 29.2k). 283 ap 367 DP , only with simple cron and giant draught. The class is not the best for orcs but its decent enough ( for me) with agris coin i got 44.7k trash haha just fun to do from time to time
@@svenbezemer5383bro I do 25k on awak musa 288 ap😢 I dont have lightstone combo and a midtier crystal. Do you think those Will make a difference? Or am I just bad😂
@@samuelrobitaille8009 yes they wil make a difference! specialy those back attacks wil hit alot harder. Maybe you can watch other awa musa grind orcs, think the class is perfect for other rotations instead of the marni, but i can be wrong.