Small correction: CdawgVA isn't the VA of Black Butler guy, he did a very good impression and people watched him prank call others with that impression.
The guy who built the substandard sub Stockton Rush, deserved it all. It's just sad others died with him. He gambled with other peoples lives and was arrogant asshole. Deep in the Ayn Rand type delusion that he was so exceptional that the rules don't apply to him. And he barely did anything except be born rich to an influential family.
The vibe is 2 daughters discussing thingies with their dad, Syd’s the first born, and brodin is that weird uncle that occasionally drops by to banter and disappear lmao
When people say eat the rich they aren’t talking about the mark Cubans of the world. They are talking to the Elon musks and Jeff bezos. They are talking to the pharmaceutical companies that make medication outrageously overpriced. They are talking to the corporations that overcharge for products but then outsource their work to third world countries because it’s cheaper to pay and allow for poor working conditions. It’s for the politicians who make laws to support themselves rather than the majority. those who don’t have to pay their taxes. It feels as though scarra is coming from a place of fear somewhat like saying “when will I be next to get hate for being rich” the average person won’t hate you for building a successful career and making money from your hard work. Especially if your working honestly ethically and not making it harder for others to live and survive. It’s once you make negative impacts on the overall of society that’s when you get hate. People don’t hate billionaires people hate greed
agreed, a lot of what they were saying seemed to be coming from a place of privilege as well. I was expecting them to talk about the points you mentioned since those points are very obvious and no brainer. It was a bit out of touch because "f the rich" and the submarine were covered very surface level.
I do think Cuban fits the bill. Cheaper medication is a bandaid on the problem of there not being universal healthcare in the USA, and he makes money off that. Same goes for the other discount pharmacies and affordability programs. A sick person should focus on being healed or stabilized rather than needing to search around for ways to be able to afford help
Agree, feels like they didn't quite pick up on the hate for billionaires is due to the insane amount of power money has over politics, laws, general publics lives, not just because they have more money than everyone else. The hate for the sub situation felt overblown but I get where the anger comes from
I think the other thing that is easy to forget, whether you are rich or not, is that "eat the rich" mostly really applies to billionaires and not so much millionaires. It's easy to forget how much a billion is and there is still quite a big gap between a millionaire and billionaire. 1 billion is 1,000 times greater than 1 million. Mark Cuban's estimated worth (according to google) is about $5 billion dollars. Zendaya about $20 million. Put into perspective, Mark Cuban is monetarily worth about 250 Zendayas (if my math is right). Google is telling me that Elon is worth $250 billion (holy heck). So then Elon is monetarily worth i think 50 Mark Cubans or 12500 Zendayas!!! That is wild!! So for these streamers who maybe are low to mid millionaire status like Zendaya (especially if they get a big deal), eating the rich is not really about them still (even though a lot of people will be confused and think that it is about them). They are kinda just like us but get to live a more physically comfy life. We have to get it in our head that "fuck the rich" is primarily about people who are billionaires who have way more money than they could ever need or even know what to do with, and who overall are keeping that wealth to themselves or a very small specific subset of people. They are human, yes, but a lot of them are so out of touch and full of greed or entitlement and use their wealth to hoard more wealth and work to mostly benefit themselves. Yes there are decently big gaps between poverty and millionaires, even between the middle class and millionaires, but the cost of living is going up and being a millionaire is not worth as much as it used to be. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a few millions in order to live a way more comfortable life than I do now. But to have billions of dollars?? Billionaires do not have the same monetary struggles as millionaires, I'm pretty sure. Also kind of a side note: my understanding is that of the rich people on the submarine, only 1 was a billionaire and the other 4 were millionaires. So if we did want to totally lack empathy and apply a "fuck the rich" mindset in that situation, it really only applies to 1/5 of the people on that sub.
Just cause I follow him and so everyone gets proper credit, Connor isn’t actually the English voice actor for Black Butler, he only used to imitate the actual voice actor and do prank calls for RUclips, which made him really popular back when Black Butler first came out. The actual va is J. Michael Tatum. Obviously this probably would be cleared up some day in the future, but I was confused about it when I first started following Cdawg so I want to spread what I know when I can 😁
This is one of the best episodes I’ve watched on the podcast. The transition from bread to liver pills to 4th of july, so funny and natural discussion. 😂
The rich people in the sub chose to do something so risky they had to sign a waiver before doing it. They also wouldn't have known a thing. Maybe a creak or two then instant death. For us over in Europe the news of this was juxtaposed with the news of a boat full of desperate migrant children (and their parents) sinking in the sea, which passed out of the news cycle instantly and no one gave a shit. In fact many people thought to themselves 'Good!' because they don't want immigrants in their country at any cost. So I can understand the public finding little empathy for the Titan sub people.
Also I find it hard empathizing with people who have used other people (and their lives) for their monetary gain. Humans who have hogged and collected a f-ton of money will not be able to do it ethically in this world we live in. Take Ama*on. The amount of news about alleged poor working conditions and people's lives perishing on site (allegedly) have been manifold FOR YEARS. Do any of these rich people give a flipping f about that? Where is the empathy there? While I do find the argument of "every human life is important" absolutely important, the overall tone of this conversation came across as tone-deaf to me. In this particular case, it's about looking at all sides... and the side of the rich was heavily focused on, since you guys are, indeed, rich. When the submarine news broke, the Italian government decided to put a German woman to jail for 20 years. Why? Because she helped bringing refugees to Italian ports safely (most people don't make it out alive because hundreds of people are cramped up inside a boat, floating on the Mediterannean Sea for God knows how long, hoping for a better life in Europe) or otherwise they would have all perished. But here we are with nobody giving a damn about that either.......
I think most people here in Europe know and care about the boat though. Then again, narcissistic billionaires committing expensive suicide is just fascinating
Wouldn't have known a thing? Like they didnt know they were running out of oxygen? Days of not knowing if they're going to see their families again? You really think they didnt know what was coming the entire time? The death was not instant, the method of their demise was days and days long with a fast and total ending. There's a significant difference. Not like they're just going about their day completely normal and get instantaneously crushed... no they would definitely have imagined every single way they could die before it happened.
@@unou588 It's my understanding that the sub imploded within hours of departing, while still descending. That is why we heard nothing from them for days. All that time they could have theoretically been alive with their supply of O2 and the search effort went on, they were already dead. So yes, they wouldn't have known a thing - an implosion at those kind of depths would have crushed them within milliseconds. No days of running out of oxygen. No knowledge anything was even wrong.
Loved this episode. Flustered Mom Syd explaining "ran through" to Scarra was the highlight for me. I needed that laugh so much. Thanks for making my crappy week much better!
No disrespect; might be a good time to learn more about how much money influences politics, wealth inequality, and how much their effects are hurting the country. Not saying people should just want billionares to die, but most people are not upset at rich people who happen to have more money than them, its usually tied to the influence the ultra wealthy have. Still enjoy these pods overall
I think the problem is that the game is so very skewed that the ultra rich rarely ever get to where they are without having ruined or exploited someone to get there. Scarra being worried that someday people are gonna look towards him next, but I'd say most entertainers aren't making their wealth off the backs of other working class people. A lot of them can be assholes sure, but that's a lot different from running businesses unethically, fucking up the environment, underpaying workers, and generally ruining the lives of anyone who gets in their way. It's easy to "stay in your lane" when the problems don't spill into it, where you get to work on your terms and know you'll make it regardless.
It also touches a bit about the KICK contract matter. As, Scarra said having 100 million on the table will make it difficult to turn down a offer even when they know that those money come from dubious sources. That shows how shortsighted people are when it comes to money and why we assume that most of the ultra rich have to have done something unethical to get to where they are.
I understand Scarra's views, but it really seems like the only reason he has them is that he is stuck in an influencer rich people bubble. Like if he talked about this with anyone who personally understood why people hate uber-wealthy people, I truly don't think he would believe any of these things. I don't think anything said was super offensive or anything, but it was so clearly out of touch.
Yeah, I think he just saw a shirt that said "eat the rich" and didn't bother thinking any further on the topic. He really seemed to be talking without the basic information of the subject. Probably confused billionaires with millionaires and got defensive
really appreciated everyone's respectful conversation around the sub! i think a bigger cause for some of the hate towards the titanic tragedy was the disparity between it and the migrant boat in greece. there was an obvious lack of proper publicity for the hundreds of people that were found dead/remain missing from taking a risk deemed necessary. on the other hand, the whole world blew up about five people who willingly went on a risky tour of one of the world's most infamous graves. i totally agree that we should be respectful of our shared humanity, yet there's also a lot to be said about how we, as extreme consumers of entertainment/news, divide our limited attention/care. amazing episode as always
overall I agree but I think people misunderstand where to target their anger. Media only reflects what people cares about, and even though I think media has some social responsibility to always make important topics like the struggles of migration more visible, inevitaby people will decide if that's relevant or not, and the sad reality is that people just don't care enough because for many europeans immigrants dying in the mediterranean it's an uncomfortable topic they DECIDE to ignore, that's the core of the problem! Now, imagine being the family of the father and the son who died reading all the stuff, like what is the point? Does that help someone? It's just evil! Human empathy shouldn't be selective, then it becomes just a football match where is "us" vs "them", it's immature and opens the window to justify any type of attrocities just because is so easy to blame someone
@@Kabra2012 that’s a great point, there are a lot of people using the comparison as a scapegoat to solely complain about the rich rather than actually learn about the migrants’ background and what kinds of conditions drove them to take such a risk. using the lives of all those people to only jump on the titanic hate train is just as bad as disrespecting those five deaths!
@@itsederrengifo yeah, that’s exactly what i mean- in a technological era where we can access headlines immediately and educate ourselves with so many different sources, it’s also easier for us to bury our heads in other content and shy away from politically motivated and/or generally unsettling stuff. our influence on what is popularized is exactly what created the disparity in coverage; people are more interested in more compact, unique stories, and the preexisting tragedy around the titanic itself had a lot of appeal as well (like what otv said abt submarine games/the titanic movie trending). i just think it’s sad that, as far as i know, there’s not much that can be done to sway people’s priorities when it comes to some things that deserve the attention
@@itsederrengifo 'Human empathy shouldn't be selective, then it becomes just a football match where is "us" vs "them".' but billionaires have 0 empathy for other humans, or they'd use their billions to change that and they'd "only" have hundreds of millions of dollars. they already made it an us. vs them. maybe if they see people laughing at billionaire deaths they'll consider trying to use their money to make the world a better place instead of just hoarding their riches
my problem with empathizing with the submarine case was not just a "haha f the rich" thing, it was more a "you're super rich and you still chose to go in the most unsafe submarine of ever just bc you wanted to save some cash?" type of thing...
the irony of it is that most of the ultra rich are people who got rich by abusing these unsafe conditions for their workers and causing worker deaths and writing it off, and then they die because of the exact same thing. we laugh because it is deserved and the lower class has already lost so much to fill the pockets of these rich people and it feels like the karma that we never got. I wouldn't ever feel empathy for those in the submersible because they treat the lives of those below them as expendable
@@everlastingray4366 agreed. billionaires have literally never showed any empathy to other humands, or they'd use a fraction of their money to drastically improve the world instead of hoarding aun unfathomable amount of money (seriously, does anyone NEED more than 500 million dollars?) people who don't show empathy don't deserve it.
@@litapd311 You don't have to be rich to not do the right thing. Plenty of our fellow "poor" will vote no to unionize cause they are "doing fine". Plenty of non rich people willing to vote against things they would never even be personally be burdened by that would help others. I think empathizing with someone who is hurt or killed is just part of being a sane normal person. Where as others just want to justify their own acts of cruelty and hate with weird rationalizations.
@@newtakn156 do you think putin deserves empathy? i ask this in good faith. because i genuinely don't think he does, if i heard that he had a painful heart attack tomorrow i'd be cheering. if you think he does, fair enough. if you don't, then i ask what's the difference between him (someone who ruins thousands of lives) and billionaires (people who ruin thousands of lives)
Really like this trio for the podcast but that segment about billionaires and eat the rich was painful. Economic/wealth inequality is arguably the biggest problem people face in the US with low wages, astronomic healthcare costs, awful housing markets and generally higher cost of living. When billionaires and mega corporations start paying their fair share of taxes maybe we’ll get somewhere. So let’s not act like people are upset purely out jealousy or something. Streamers start making money and quickly get out of touch it seems.
Incredibly painful. I love this podcast but it was the worst take on such a topic. They really need to research and do some fact checking if they're going to dive into topics like these. I really hope they don't stray away from subjects like that due to the critique, especially since most the comments were nice about it. But man, would it have been nice to have someone like Hasan on it to tell them everything that we've been saying lol
Honestly, it's good to know their somewhat unfiltered opinions on the topic of money and how it affects the general population. Because it kind of also hints at how out of touch they are from the larger population.
like when they bring up the drugs thing afterwards... the CEO's of those companies are the billionaires we mean, scarra pointed out a very real world situation that is 100% helped by billionaires not being able to exist.
I think some nuance was missed on the topic "we hate the rich". I agree with Scarra that we should positively reinforce people to strive to be a millionaire (or wealthy). The problem is often there are laws in place that "punish" or the deter people with fines (money). There's so many arbitrary rules around those fines as well. So for the rich, $500 fine for parking in the wrong spot. It will never hurt you them way it would a poor person. There also seems to be an idea that the in order for the rich, they have to steal money or steal opportunities from others. It goes back to the US vs THEM.
I prefer to seperate the rich into categories, Got rich because they were a trustfund kid, God rich off of exploiting loopholes in labor laws, Got rich from becoming famous, Got rich from Property Investment etc. It's how they made their money, that is where I draw the line between "These rich people are ok, and then these rich people are evil, predatory leeches. So when most leftists say "fuck the rich" we mean fuck the rich who profited from using morally bankrupt methods, the methods may not be illegal but we have to remember the Government makes laws that benefit the rich because THEY are ones who have bought stock and shares from these corporations owned by the rich 1%.
There are a few countries (like mine, yay) with the concept of a day fine, where the amount you're fined depends on your income. You could get like 20 day fines as your punishment and the judge knows approximately how much that's gonna hurt, no matter if you're rich or poor. That is why every now and then I hear about 10k+ speeding tickets. I know that sounds low still if you're a mega billionaire, but we don't really have as much of those here as some other places.
@@Pingviinimursuthat's a great idea, I wish it was that way here. But the rich have so much political influence in the United States it will never happen.
There is also the issue of costs rising for EVERYTHING while wages for normal everyday people have been lagging or stagnant. And there is nothing being done to fix those issues because the solutions would hurt the wallets of the obscenely wealthy.
@@slapdatbutton8931 Well, that's not the whole truth. It's difficult to raise the purchasing power of the average citizen. If you collectively give everybody a raise to match inflation, prices will go up even more. But just because it's difficult doesn't mean nobody should try.
this is in no way ill intentioned but there is a lot of nuance that was missing on the topic about billionaires and the people on the sub that it was frankly very painful to listen to. On "Eat the Rich"- Even the difference between a Zendaya (net worth- $20 million) and a billionaire is astronomical. You would need 50 Zendayas to get to a billion, and that is simply just ONE billion. You would need 2,000 Zendayas to get to how much Musk spent on Twitter. There is no way someone can accumulate that much wealth in an ethical way, and so billionaires resort to unethical methods of accruing wealth. For example, there is mass exploitation of the Earth and its natural resources. The Dakota Access Pipeline protests have been going on since 2016. Big energy companies headed by the same billionaires that people are so spiteful towards are directly responsible for the destruction of land, the mass extinction of animals, the exploitation of poor peoples and their labor, and even contribute significantly to the deaths of many. I get that it can be hard to relate to someone as a streamer sitting comfortably in your chair in the heart of LA. However, someone who is DIRECTLY affected by these massive corporations cannot simply "Stay in their own lane". Their lives are getting destroyed by these billionaires, all for higher and higher profits. Billionaires ACTIVELY hurt the Earth as well as the animals and creatures that inhabit it. The Earth is actively in decline because a few billionaires sitting on the board of a super mega corporation try to increase their profit margins. "Eat the rich/k1ll the rich" sentiment is so beneficial because it UNITES people who otherwise own NO social or financial power, establishing a common enemy that actively decreases their living conditions. Anti-rich sentiment causes people to democratically hold the rich ACCOUNTABLE to the atrocities that they are committing- take the WGA/SAG strikes for example. A few ultra rich people deciding on whether the people they exploit get healthcare or not. Because of so much political power against the rich, people are unafraid to take action against these billionaires, and fight for their wages, living conditions and the value of their labor. It is the exact same sentiment as "not seeing race"- NOT paying attention to it is in itself contributing to the decline of lives and the environment. I know ya'll don't really do politics, but I think a lot of people (most everyone in the comments LOL) would appreciate having someone with an educated, nuanced and intelligent opinion on issues such as these to come on and talk about them, such as Hasan. Anti-billionaire sentiment is so strong right now not because it is trendy, but because billionaires have managed to cause SO MUCH harm that people cannot HELP but take notice. Yes, human life is valuable. But if someone came to my town, poisoned our water supply, cut down the forests that was revered by my culture, and paid me 8 dollars an hour to work at a sweatshop that was the only available source of income for a 50-mile radius, why would I not rejoice at their demise?
I think scarra even points out why he finds it so weird, he only kinda defends billionaires because he thinks one day his bracket will be the target. I don’t think millionaires will ever be the target, but like logistically you could never say that somebody works a billion times more than somebody else, they are making that profit because they are thriving off the people who are underpaid and overworked. Im not defending the jokes about ppl dying in the submarine but there is a disconnect from millionaire streamers and ppl who literally cannot pull themselves out of poverty because the billionaires keep spreading that gap. Like even at the base level where minimum living wage is nowhere near what you need to survive in most places. No hate to scarra, loved the pod but it always be hard for a person in your financial status (I also don’t know how well off their families were when growing up) to relate to the majority of ppl who don’t have the money to deal with the decisions that the rich make
I really don't agree on their thoughts about the "eat the rich thing". As someone who lives in a third world country, it's so hard to get by even of you have a decent job. The government tax the poor while their tax laws barely grazes the pockets of those billionares. And no one gets to that level of rich without doing questionable things. I for one have no ounce of pity for those guys. I'm just disappointed how shallow the members' pov is regarding these topics. They can't even look deeper as to why people feel this way about the deaths of those billionaires. I guess they can't sympathize because they don't feel how badly the world is suffering because of socio economic equality.
It depends. in my opinion, the middle class is much worse. I am ethiopian. Our political or economic situation is not very favorable. One of the reasons for that is we had greedy bastards running our country for 27 years. We didnt do anything about it. Most individuals just wanted to go through life day by day and not get involved into anything political. We outnumber both the lower class or the 1 percent. But noone wants to sacrifice part of their life for the betterment of others. It just doesnt make sense for me to have a go at the people who made my situation worse if i am not gonna be there on the ground to change and shake the system they have put up. I am not blaming anyone who doesnt do those things but if you dont do those things then you should really just live your life quietly.
@eleonarcrimson858 well i do those things you said and actively trying to make a difference in the streets (not american, btw) so i guess that's why i'm a bit disappointed.
@@eleonarcrimson858 "It just doesnt make sense for me to have a go at the people who made my situation worse if i am not gonna be there on the ground to change and shake the system they have put up" that doesn't make any sense. you shouldn't blame the people oppressing you because you aren't willing to put your life and future on the line to fight a losing battle? does that mean slaves shouldn't have been mad at slave owners because they weren't willing to participate in rebellions? billionaires actively make lives worse for everyone else. why shouldn't you have a go at them? they're having a go at everyone else. and they literally make it harder to fight against them because they control the media and financial wellbeing of so many people.
@@litapd311 let me rephrase that. You should be putting more effort in fighting those "losing battles" than sitting down and tweeting ur hate against them. Maybe this is just the difference between westerners and us. We either fight the losing battle or go on our day to day hence my mention of our country's situation.
I think the submarine jokes mainly stem from the fact that the CEO had no regard to other peoples' lives, skipping so much safety protocol when building the submarine. For example, If you're voluntarily driving a car on the road with your eyes closed, i'm not gonna feel bad if you die.
1:11:53 that's the thing, zendaya isn't a billionare, she's not even remotely close to a billionare. she's closer to a person with 0 net worth than she is closer to a billionare by a collosal margin. Jodi absolutely doesn't understand the weight of "a billionare", it is quite literally impossible to get that rich without exploiting humans en-masse. saying people hate billionares because they make more money than you is the most ignorant thing she's said for sure, it's like saying oh people are upset at the school shooter because he took revenge on society or an easier example for twitch people to understand is saying people are upset at the gambling crypto rug pull streamer because they're not as popular as them
agreed, they seemed really out of touch. not surprising considering they're all millionaires who can fly around the world on a whim and never have to worry about money again. i think they forgot that billionaires literally kill millions of people a year by perpetuating class systems that have no regard for human lives if they're poor.
As much as I love OTV as a whole, the way they compared a corporate billionaire to a laborer such as an actor as if they are even remotely comparable in accumulation of wealth, was sad. Zendaya is closer to being homeless than she is to being a billionaire.
I worry that Scarra thinks hes still invested in twitter. Hes so out of touch with his own investments that he doesn't know Elon bought out all the twitter stock and took the company private. Reminds me of the Graham Stephan episode where scarra doesn't even know how to log into his investment account. Makes me worry for him in the long term.
the titan convo was pretty tone deaf cuz these billionaires have abused and oppressed so many ppl to get where they are so ofc everyones gonna make jokes about them💀 they didnt earn that shit, they hurt so many ppl to get there. which is why ppl say fuck the rich. ppl are more saying fuck the billionaires not the millionaire streamers, youtubers, musicians and actors who worked to get there. thats not what anyone's saying. there is no such thing as an ethical billlionaire
while i think the whole "kill the billionaires" movement is over the line, i think people that arent mad at billionaires have never done the quick math to know how much money they actually make. its not something you do ethically. An example: Lets say you are 50 years old and just made your very first billion. you started working at 20 years old, so you have been working for 30 years. That would mean you, on average, made 641.025,61$ every week. A house every week, for 30 years. And if you are jeff bezos, are 59 years old and have like 200 Billion dollars, if we assume you started working at 20 aswell, that means you made 14 million dollars every DAY! i dont want them to die, but im not gonna be sad if they do. especially with the submarine story.. like, last month, a refugee ship sank and 78 people drowned. i bet most people reading this havent even heard of that. People fleeing their country in hopes of safety died and no one gave a fuck... but some rich folk voluntarily cram into a submarine and its on every news show for days with fuckin oxygen timers on it.
no bc i love scarra and his anime takes but i was so 😭omgggg enough time has passed that ppl think connor imitating j michael tatum's fake british accent in skit calls meant that he was officially associated w black butler like i feel SOOO old but also it's so funny?? ^^; they'll prob figure it out at some point if they bring it up in convo again (maybe??)
I think that all the animosity that people had about the titanic that you all don’t feel is that people are struggling so hard right now just to survive. With inflation and greedflation from the companies that are making billions of dollars plus regular folk are hurting. So in your position you aren’t really feeling it too much but for people making 30k and haven’t gotten a raise since the pandemic started and now everything is going up in price we are all angry because the source of our problems is greed from the ultra rich. They don’t wanna pay their workers more but charge people more money for basic necessities and are making record profits of billions while everyone else is struggling to survive. And the more money you make the less you actually feel it which is why y’all have more empathy and compassion because you don’t feel what 70% of the population feels because you are in a higher class. Which is what also makes your feel nervous because you aren’t far away from being on the chopping block of hate of things get worse and then you all go back to being like the rest of us when stocks drop and people can’t afford to sub etc. 🤷🏽♂️.
And this ladies and gentlemen is what we call class solidarity. The argument is that no just society would have to rely on Mark Cuban to sell medicine "at cost" and still be able to turn a profit.
imo the difference between a fine average joe rich person and a rich person I find to be so far detached from the reality of the everyday person is as simple as this: how did you accumulate your wealth? Did everyone working under you get the fruits of their labor that they are (imo) entitled to? Are you paying taxes or avoiding doing so by hiding wealth in nontaxable assets? etc. etc. I dont think any of the uber rich need to die, they need to be far more heavily regulated, etc. etc ty for coming to my Ted Talk
Really enjoyed this episode! Great discussion on social media, and perceptions of wealth and class. Scarra doubling down on Syd’s pool party had me dying 😂
I understand their POV on the "eat the rich" thing and how distasteful how people made fun of what happened. But I hope they would also try and learn more about the whole thing. Billionaires can solve problems from poverty to reversing the use of fossil fuel but they choose not to and continue to profit off of people's lives and the world's resources without a scratch. Billionaires don't even get taxed the way they should be. This whole "eat the rich" thing is more than just hate and is a part of a bigger movement for equality, wealth redistribution and stopping of over-exploitation of people and planet. It was kinda sad that they played it down to people hate billionaires because they make more money than actually the rest of the world. Regardless, I still love them and I wish they would try and look more into it :)
scarra "i feel disconnected from my viewer base" 1:19:08 yeah no shit dude u want on a rant for 10 mins talking about how u shouldn't hate on rich people and how nice some of them are
Guys you are very privileged to live in first world country, and not being from finically struggling family. Because rich people drain money out of poor people and thats why we hate so much rich people and laugh when they arrogantly make mistakes. I am not trying to justify it but explain that poor people know who taking advantage of them every day and are not stupid, people want blood…!
1:22:24 Lmfao Connor does do VA work but he didn't voice in Black Butler he just made prank call videos mimicking Sebastian's voice and also did other anime impressions, he even did a collab with the actual VA of Sebastian and they prank called fans
I agree, fireworks shows are fine, but I HATE neighborhood fireworks. people in my area do it for weeks, and we'll into the middle of the night/early in the morning. it's the worst.
Outside of the Kick talk and the money talk, this was a good episode, but oh boy, were they out of touch on those topics. Yes, Scarra, you are out of touch. Yes, you are following the same fearmongering on millionaires to billionaires as some people do with tax brackets aimed at the top 5% to everyone else. I understand you were looking at it through the lens of some rich people dying, but the majority of people in that case aren't celebrating the deaths, just don't care. On the internet, there are SO many other things that are more deserving of empathy from most angles. Why spend that limited emotional energy on people who you will never find relatable, doing something that they know is risky. P.S CdawgVA isn't the Black Butler VA.
i love listening to them learn about sanrio LOL i used to watch hello kitty's furry tale theater as a kid so i've always been aware of the sanrio characters. same as scarra, chococat was my favorite since i was a kid. he wasn't very popular so they stopped selling/pushing his toys/merch. but recently he had a comeback in the us! so now i'm happy to see him everywhere!
even with all the foresight in the world i would never have expected scarra, in the final minutes of the podcast, to ask what "being ran through" means
I really hope Scarra host the podcast everytime, or in the podcast most of the time, I really enjoy listening to Scarra story and topics, same goes Jodi and Syd, all are amazing! Big scarra fans! :3
i always really enjoy all of your vlogs, i wish i could see what was cut however i realize not everyone is down for it, thank all of you so much for sharing all that all of you do
These guys are kinda outta touch now. Maybe the reason Scarra feels disconnected is because he lives in LA only interacting with people of a similar income.
Referencing Velocipastor is a W. Watched that in college 2 years ago, was a masterpiece. Never found anyone else that's seen the movie before this podcast!
It's so frustrating to continuously hear people tell us how we should feel. They missed a lot of the intricacies of being poor in a society where people are touting their wealth in whatever manner they might. But OUR response to people acting foolish and haphazardly doing dangerous things is NOT for you (a fairly wealthy guy, Scarra) to critique. It was tragic, yes, but it symbolized so much more for the working class. For those who are living paycheck to paycheck only for more welathy people to be like "Shame on you" when in reality they didn't give a fuck about the HUNDREDS of refugees who lost lives trying to find asylum. There are countless examples of how "policing how the poor act" is just another way to maintain a hierarchy inherent to our society. Do better, read more, listen to our comments. This was a disappointing podcast to listen to.
Me and Jodie are so alike with the food stuff. I am also a sandwich eater, I also like to eat like a bird, I also eat to live... THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE LIKE ME!! I can't wrap my head round being a foodie. I'm too basic for that way of life. I genuinely look like a foodie though haha! Carrying extra here and there 😫
I think the jokes about the submarine were mostly because it was getting way too much coverage in the news. It felt like it was because they are wealthy and, therefore, more important than all of the poor people. Poorer people who are dying, often due to the greed of the more important rich people.
I am not too passionate about making fan dead rich people, or people in general because of their status, but boy you need to be checked if you have the money to take this trip but you chose the literal budget option that is notorious for being unsafe.
Loved this episode, but I feel like Scarra missed the mark with the billionaire stuff. Yes, maybe having a strong resentment to rich people isn't always great. They are humans, and we shouldn't be celebrating their death, nor any human. The issue is THE SYSTEM that allows the super rich to exploit the working class. I wish someone brought that up.
Yeah the submarine thing wasn’t about them being wealthy , it was about doing something so clearly reckless and ignoring tons of red flags basically for clout.
Great podcast, friendly discussion of random BS and behind the scene stuff. What I come for. Coincidentally this is what I sometimes put on while I cook
Man I love OTV but I really felt the disconnect this episode. I guess once you start making an above average amount of money you just cant relate to us average people. Yall felt really oblivious to the problems in the US and the wrongdoings of the rich. I agree we shouldn't ve making jokes about their deaths, but the people on those subs also have no regard for the lives of any of us or for any of the lives they destroy and have destroyed on their way to wealth. I feel little empathy for real life villains.
Them thinking Connor voices the butler in Black Butler is hilarious, no he just had a really good impression and girls thirsted over that lol (I watched him in his Black Butler RUclips era for his prank calls).
They put themselves in the submarine if they have that much money maybe they should take a class on informed decisions? Also many rich people don't do anything for charity unless its a tax write-off and it should be scaleable if you make an unfathomable amount of money then donating the same as an average person does not cleanse your soul xoxox
To me RUclips offers a healthy balance whenever it comes to Platforms You can Live Stream. Upload Videos and Shorts all on the same Channel. Which makes RUclips more versatile than Kick and Twitch Combined that is the advantage that RUclips Has.
I personally don’t go as far as to make jokes about the people who died but I do agree with eat the rich. I personally believe that there shouldn’t be 10+ millionaire or billionaires as long as we have people who struggle to simply live. It is fine to be making that amount of money but then you should focus all that extra money to better life for everyone else. That to me is where the rich start becoming bad people, but for me being a bad person is a spectrum. So there are rich people who are good people BUT they are a bad person to some degree even tho overall they’re a good person.
About the "liver pill", on my country we have something called "Ton Was", and it comes in VIALS. I felt so cool when I used to go out to drink and had my "protecting potion" before destroying my liver.
I dont think its that weird people think you have to exploit people to become a billionaire. You could legit have a job that pays 100$ an hour, work 50 hours a week, every week, every month every year, and it would take you 4167 years to make a single billion... Theres people out there with MULTIPLE BILLIONS. So forgive us for thinking they are bad people. You simply cannot make that much money "working hard"
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Small correction: CdawgVA isn't the VA of Black Butler guy, he did a very good impression and people watched him prank call others with that impression.
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The guy who built the substandard sub Stockton Rush, deserved it all. It's just sad others died with him. He gambled with other peoples lives and was arrogant asshole. Deep in the Ayn Rand type delusion that he was so exceptional that the rules don't apply to him. And he barely did anything except be born rich to an influential family.
true and most of the jokes about the submarine i saw in my feed was directed to that guy too
The vibe is 2 daughters discussing thingies with their dad, Syd’s the first born, and brodin is that weird uncle that occasionally drops by to banter and disappear lmao
Just a note Cdawg never voiced the black Butler. He did RUclips videos playing as him but he was never near anything official
scarra really upped his host game. Nice job!
That smelling salt really woke him up, huh?
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When people say eat the rich they aren’t talking about the mark Cubans of the world. They are talking to the Elon musks and Jeff bezos. They are talking to the pharmaceutical companies that make medication outrageously overpriced. They are talking to the corporations that overcharge for products but then outsource their work to third world countries because it’s cheaper to pay and allow for poor working conditions. It’s for the politicians who make laws to support themselves rather than the majority. those who don’t have to pay their taxes. It feels as though scarra is coming from a place of fear somewhat like saying “when will I be next to get hate for being rich” the average person won’t hate you for building a successful career and making money from your hard work. Especially if your working honestly ethically and not making it harder for others to live and survive. It’s once you make negative impacts on the overall of society that’s when you get hate. People don’t hate billionaires people hate greed
agreed, a lot of what they were saying seemed to be coming from a place of privilege as well. I was expecting them to talk about the points you mentioned since those points are very obvious and no brainer. It was a bit out of touch because "f the rich" and the submarine were covered very surface level.
I do think Cuban fits the bill. Cheaper medication is a bandaid on the problem of there not being universal healthcare in the USA, and he makes money off that.
Same goes for the other discount pharmacies and affordability programs. A sick person should focus on being healed or stabilized rather than needing to search around for ways to be able to afford help
Agree, feels like they didn't quite pick up on the hate for billionaires is due to the insane amount of power money has over politics, laws, general publics lives, not just because they have more money than everyone else. The hate for the sub situation felt overblown but I get where the anger comes from
id argue 15% markup is still too high for life saving medication
I think the other thing that is easy to forget, whether you are rich or not, is that "eat the rich" mostly really applies to billionaires and not so much millionaires. It's easy to forget how much a billion is and there is still quite a big gap between a millionaire and billionaire. 1 billion is 1,000 times greater than 1 million. Mark Cuban's estimated worth (according to google) is about $5 billion dollars. Zendaya about $20 million. Put into perspective, Mark Cuban is monetarily worth about 250 Zendayas (if my math is right). Google is telling me that Elon is worth $250 billion (holy heck). So then Elon is monetarily worth i think 50 Mark Cubans or 12500 Zendayas!!! That is wild!!
So for these streamers who maybe are low to mid millionaire status like Zendaya (especially if they get a big deal), eating the rich is not really about them still (even though a lot of people will be confused and think that it is about them). They are kinda just like us but get to live a more physically comfy life. We have to get it in our head that "fuck the rich" is primarily about people who are billionaires who have way more money than they could ever need or even know what to do with, and who overall are keeping that wealth to themselves or a very small specific subset of people. They are human, yes, but a lot of them are so out of touch and full of greed or entitlement and use their wealth to hoard more wealth and work to mostly benefit themselves. Yes there are decently big gaps between poverty and millionaires, even between the middle class and millionaires, but the cost of living is going up and being a millionaire is not worth as much as it used to be. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a few millions in order to live a way more comfortable life than I do now. But to have billions of dollars?? Billionaires do not have the same monetary struggles as millionaires, I'm pretty sure.
Also kind of a side note: my understanding is that of the rich people on the submarine, only 1 was a billionaire and the other 4 were millionaires. So if we did want to totally lack empathy and apply a "fuck the rich" mindset in that situation, it really only applies to 1/5 of the people on that sub.
Just cause I follow him and so everyone gets proper credit, Connor isn’t actually the English voice actor for Black Butler, he only used to imitate the actual voice actor and do prank calls for RUclips, which made him really popular back when Black Butler first came out. The actual va is J. Michael Tatum. Obviously this probably would be cleared up some day in the future, but I was confused about it when I first started following Cdawg so I want to spread what I know when I can 😁
I laughed my ass off watching this part
This is one of the best episodes I’ve watched on the podcast. The transition from bread to liver pills to 4th of july, so funny and natural discussion. 😂
The rich people in the sub chose to do something so risky they had to sign a waiver before doing it. They also wouldn't have known a thing. Maybe a creak or two then instant death.
For us over in Europe the news of this was juxtaposed with the news of a boat full of desperate migrant children (and their parents) sinking in the sea, which passed out of the news cycle instantly and no one gave a shit. In fact many people thought to themselves 'Good!' because they don't want immigrants in their country at any cost.
So I can understand the public finding little empathy for the Titan sub people.
Also I find it hard empathizing with people who have used other people (and their lives) for their monetary gain. Humans who have hogged and collected a f-ton of money will not be able to do it ethically in this world we live in. Take Ama*on. The amount of news about alleged poor working conditions and people's lives perishing on site (allegedly) have been manifold FOR YEARS. Do any of these rich people give a flipping f about that?
Where is the empathy there?
While I do find the argument of "every human life is important" absolutely important, the overall tone of this conversation came across as tone-deaf to me. In this particular case, it's about looking at all sides... and the side of the rich was heavily focused on, since you guys are, indeed, rich. When the submarine news broke, the Italian government decided to put a German woman to jail for 20 years. Why? Because she helped bringing refugees to Italian ports safely (most people don't make it out alive because hundreds of people are cramped up inside a boat, floating on the Mediterannean Sea for God knows how long, hoping for a better life in Europe) or otherwise they would have all perished. But here we are with nobody giving a damn about that either.......
I think most people here in Europe know and care about the boat though. Then again, narcissistic billionaires committing expensive suicide is just fascinating
"Finding little empathy" is different from "celebrating their deaths". The former is a much more reasonable reaction.
Wouldn't have known a thing? Like they didnt know they were running out of oxygen? Days of not knowing if they're going to see their families again? You really think they didnt know what was coming the entire time? The death was not instant, the method of their demise was days and days long with a fast and total ending. There's a significant difference. Not like they're just going about their day completely normal and get instantaneously crushed... no they would definitely have imagined every single way they could die before it happened.
@@unou588 It's my understanding that the sub imploded within hours of departing, while still descending. That is why we heard nothing from them for days. All that time they could have theoretically been alive with their supply of O2 and the search effort went on, they were already dead. So yes, they wouldn't have known a thing - an implosion at those kind of depths would have crushed them within milliseconds. No days of running out of oxygen. No knowledge anything was even wrong.
Loved this episode. Flustered Mom Syd explaining "ran through" to Scarra was the highlight for me. I needed that laugh so much. Thanks for making my crappy week much better!
No disrespect; might be a good time to learn more about how much money influences politics, wealth inequality, and how much their effects are hurting the country. Not saying people should just want billionares to die, but most people are not upset at rich people who happen to have more money than them, its usually tied to the influence the ultra wealthy have. Still enjoy these pods overall
I think the problem is that the game is so very skewed that the ultra rich rarely ever get to where they are without having ruined or exploited someone to get there. Scarra being worried that someday people are gonna look towards him next, but I'd say most entertainers aren't making their wealth off the backs of other working class people. A lot of them can be assholes sure, but that's a lot different from running businesses unethically, fucking up the environment, underpaying workers, and generally ruining the lives of anyone who gets in their way. It's easy to "stay in your lane" when the problems don't spill into it, where you get to work on your terms and know you'll make it regardless.
It also touches a bit about the KICK contract matter. As, Scarra said having 100 million on the table will make it difficult to turn down a offer even when they know that those money come from dubious sources. That shows how shortsighted people are when it comes to money and why we assume that most of the ultra rich have to have done something unethical to get to where they are.
I understand Scarra's views, but it really seems like the only reason he has them is that he is stuck in an influencer rich people bubble. Like if he talked about this with anyone who personally understood why people hate uber-wealthy people, I truly don't think he would believe any of these things. I don't think anything said was super offensive or anything, but it was so clearly out of touch.
Yeah, I think he just saw a shirt that said "eat the rich" and didn't bother thinking any further on the topic. He really seemed to be talking without the basic information of the subject. Probably confused billionaires with millionaires and got defensive
really appreciated everyone's respectful conversation around the sub! i think a bigger cause for some of the hate towards the titanic tragedy was the disparity between it and the migrant boat in greece. there was an obvious lack of proper publicity for the hundreds of people that were found dead/remain missing from taking a risk deemed necessary. on the other hand, the whole world blew up about five people who willingly went on a risky tour of one of the world's most infamous graves. i totally agree that we should be respectful of our shared humanity, yet there's also a lot to be said about how we, as extreme consumers of entertainment/news, divide our limited attention/care. amazing episode as always
overall I agree but I think people misunderstand where to target their anger. Media only reflects what people cares about, and even though I think media has some social responsibility to always make important topics like the struggles of migration more visible, inevitaby people will decide if that's relevant or not, and the sad reality is that people just don't care enough because for many europeans immigrants dying in the mediterranean it's an uncomfortable topic they DECIDE to ignore, that's the core of the problem! Now, imagine being the family of the father and the son who died reading all the stuff, like what is the point? Does that help someone? It's just evil! Human empathy shouldn't be selective, then it becomes just a football match where is "us" vs "them", it's immature and opens the window to justify any type of attrocities just because is so easy to blame someone
@@Kabra2012 that’s a great point, there are a lot of people using the comparison as a scapegoat to solely complain about the rich rather than actually learn about the migrants’ background and what kinds of conditions drove them to take such a risk. using the lives of all those people to only jump on the titanic hate train is just as bad as disrespecting those five deaths!
@@itsederrengifo yeah, that’s exactly what i mean- in a technological era where we can access headlines immediately and educate ourselves with so many different sources, it’s also easier for us to bury our heads in other content and shy away from politically motivated and/or generally unsettling stuff. our influence on what is popularized is exactly what created the disparity in coverage; people are more interested in more compact, unique stories, and the preexisting tragedy around the titanic itself had a lot of appeal as well (like what otv said abt submarine games/the titanic movie trending). i just think it’s sad that, as far as i know, there’s not much that can be done to sway people’s priorities when it comes to some things that deserve the attention
@@itsederrengifo 'Human empathy shouldn't be selective, then it becomes just a football match where is "us" vs "them".' but billionaires have 0 empathy for other humans, or they'd use their billions to change that and they'd "only" have hundreds of millions of dollars. they already made it an us. vs them. maybe if they see people laughing at billionaire deaths they'll consider trying to use their money to make the world a better place instead of just hoarding their riches
BASED OTV VIEWER!!!! well said 👏
my problem with empathizing with the submarine case was not just a "haha f the rich" thing, it was more a "you're super rich and you still chose to go in the most unsafe submarine of ever just bc you wanted to save some cash?" type of thing...
the irony of it is that most of the ultra rich are people who got rich by abusing these unsafe conditions for their workers and causing worker deaths and writing it off, and then they die because of the exact same thing. we laugh because it is deserved and the lower class has already lost so much to fill the pockets of these rich people and it feels like the karma that we never got. I wouldn't ever feel empathy for those in the submersible because they treat the lives of those below them as expendable
@@everlastingray4366 agreed. billionaires have literally never showed any empathy to other humands, or they'd use a fraction of their money to drastically improve the world instead of hoarding aun unfathomable amount of money (seriously, does anyone NEED more than 500 million dollars?)
people who don't show empathy don't deserve it.
@@litapd311I disagree, I think everyone deserves empathy. I don't think we should stoop to lower levels just because we're angry.
@@litapd311 You don't have to be rich to not do the right thing. Plenty of our fellow "poor" will vote no to unionize cause they are "doing fine". Plenty of non rich people willing to vote against things they would never even be personally be burdened by that would help others. I think empathizing with someone who is hurt or killed is just part of being a sane normal person. Where as others just want to justify their own acts of cruelty and hate with weird rationalizations.
@@newtakn156 do you think putin deserves empathy? i ask this in good faith. because i genuinely don't think he does, if i heard that he had a painful heart attack tomorrow i'd be cheering. if you think he does, fair enough. if you don't, then i ask what's the difference between him (someone who ruins thousands of lives) and billionaires (people who ruin thousands of lives)
Really like this trio for the podcast but that segment about billionaires and eat the rich was painful. Economic/wealth inequality is arguably the biggest problem people face in the US with low wages, astronomic healthcare costs, awful housing markets and generally higher cost of living. When billionaires and mega corporations start paying their fair share of taxes maybe we’ll get somewhere. So let’s not act like people are upset purely out jealousy or something. Streamers start making money and quickly get out of touch it seems.
Incredibly painful. I love this podcast but it was the worst take on such a topic. They really need to research and do some fact checking if they're going to dive into topics like these. I really hope they don't stray away from subjects like that due to the critique, especially since most the comments were nice about it. But man, would it have been nice to have someone like Hasan on it to tell them everything that we've been saying lol
Honestly, it's good to know their somewhat unfiltered opinions on the topic of money and how it affects the general population. Because it kind of also hints at how out of touch they are from the larger population.
like when they bring up the drugs thing afterwards... the CEO's of those companies are the billionaires we mean, scarra pointed out a very real world situation that is 100% helped by billionaires not being able to exist.
Same thing happened on Wine About It, just so out of touch to expect people to care about billionaires
I just have one question do you know how much percentage in taxes in the US that the 1% pays in because you might need to look into that
I think some nuance was missed on the topic "we hate the rich". I agree with Scarra that we should positively reinforce people to strive to be a millionaire (or wealthy). The problem is often there are laws in place that "punish" or the deter people with fines (money). There's so many arbitrary rules around those fines as well. So for the rich, $500 fine for parking in the wrong spot. It will never hurt you them way it would a poor person. There also seems to be an idea that the in order for the rich, they have to steal money or steal opportunities from others. It goes back to the US vs THEM.
I prefer to seperate the rich into categories, Got rich because they were a trustfund kid, God rich off of exploiting loopholes in labor laws, Got rich from becoming famous, Got rich from Property Investment etc. It's how they made their money, that is where I draw the line between "These rich people are ok, and then these rich people are evil, predatory leeches.
So when most leftists say "fuck the rich" we mean fuck the rich who profited from using morally bankrupt methods, the methods may not be illegal but we have to remember the Government makes laws that benefit the rich because THEY are ones who have bought stock and shares from these corporations owned by the rich 1%.
There are a few countries (like mine, yay) with the concept of a day fine, where the amount you're fined depends on your income.
You could get like 20 day fines as your punishment and the judge knows approximately how much that's gonna hurt, no matter if you're rich or poor.
That is why every now and then I hear about 10k+ speeding tickets. I know that sounds low still if you're a mega billionaire, but we don't really have as much of those here as some other places.
@@Pingviinimursuthat's a great idea, I wish it was that way here. But the rich have so much political influence in the United States it will never happen.
There is also the issue of costs rising for EVERYTHING while wages for normal everyday people have been lagging or stagnant. And there is nothing being done to fix those issues because the solutions would hurt the wallets of the obscenely wealthy.
@@slapdatbutton8931 Well, that's not the whole truth. It's difficult to raise the purchasing power of the average citizen. If you collectively give everybody a raise to match inflation, prices will go up even more.
But just because it's difficult doesn't mean nobody should try.
this is in no way ill intentioned but there is a lot of nuance that was missing on the topic about billionaires and the people on the sub that it was frankly very painful to listen to. On "Eat the Rich"- Even the difference between a Zendaya (net worth- $20 million) and a billionaire is astronomical. You would need 50 Zendayas to get to a billion, and that is simply just ONE billion. You would need 2,000 Zendayas to get to how much Musk spent on Twitter. There is no way someone can accumulate that much wealth in an ethical way, and so billionaires resort to unethical methods of accruing wealth.
For example, there is mass exploitation of the Earth and its natural resources. The Dakota Access Pipeline protests have been going on since 2016. Big energy companies headed by the same billionaires that people are so spiteful towards are directly responsible for the destruction of land, the mass extinction of animals, the exploitation of poor peoples and their labor, and even contribute significantly to the deaths of many.
I get that it can be hard to relate to someone as a streamer sitting comfortably in your chair in the heart of LA. However, someone who is DIRECTLY affected by these massive corporations cannot simply "Stay in their own lane". Their lives are getting destroyed by these billionaires, all for higher and higher profits. Billionaires ACTIVELY hurt the Earth as well as the animals and creatures that inhabit it. The Earth is actively in decline because a few billionaires sitting on the board of a super mega corporation try to increase their profit margins.
"Eat the rich/k1ll the rich" sentiment is so beneficial because it UNITES people who otherwise own NO social or financial power, establishing a common enemy that actively decreases their living conditions. Anti-rich sentiment causes people to democratically hold the rich ACCOUNTABLE to the atrocities that they are committing- take the WGA/SAG strikes for example. A few ultra rich people deciding on whether the people they exploit get healthcare or not. Because of so much political power against the rich, people are unafraid to take action against these billionaires, and fight for their wages, living conditions and the value of their labor. It is the exact same sentiment as "not seeing race"- NOT paying attention to it is in itself contributing to the decline of lives and the environment. I know ya'll don't really do politics, but I think a lot of people (most everyone in the comments LOL) would appreciate having someone with an educated, nuanced and intelligent opinion on issues such as these to come on and talk about them, such as Hasan.
Anti-billionaire sentiment is so strong right now not because it is trendy, but because billionaires have managed to cause SO MUCH harm that people cannot HELP but take notice. Yes, human life is valuable. But if someone came to my town, poisoned our water supply, cut down the forests that was revered by my culture, and paid me 8 dollars an hour to work at a sweatshop that was the only available source of income for a 50-mile radius, why would I not rejoice at their demise?
I think scarra even points out why he finds it so weird, he only kinda defends billionaires because he thinks one day his bracket will be the target. I don’t think millionaires will ever be the target, but like logistically you could never say that somebody works a billion times more than somebody else, they are making that profit because they are thriving off the people who are underpaid and overworked. Im not defending the jokes about ppl dying in the submarine but there is a disconnect from millionaire streamers and ppl who literally cannot pull themselves out of poverty because the billionaires keep spreading that gap. Like even at the base level where minimum living wage is nowhere near what you need to survive in most places. No hate to scarra, loved the pod but it always be hard for a person in your financial status (I also don’t know how well off their families were when growing up) to relate to the majority of ppl who don’t have the money to deal with the decisions that the rich make
I really don't agree on their thoughts about the "eat the rich thing". As someone who lives in a third world country, it's so hard to get by even of you have a decent job. The government tax the poor while their tax laws barely grazes the pockets of those billionares.
And no one gets to that level of rich without doing questionable things. I for one have no ounce of pity for those guys.
I'm just disappointed how shallow the members' pov is regarding these topics. They can't even look deeper as to why people feel this way about the deaths of those billionaires. I guess they can't sympathize because they don't feel how badly the world is suffering because of socio economic equality.
It depends. in my opinion, the middle class is much worse. I am ethiopian. Our political or economic situation is not very favorable. One of the reasons for that is we had greedy bastards running our country for 27 years. We didnt do anything about it. Most individuals just wanted to go through life day by day and not get involved into anything political. We outnumber both the lower class or the 1 percent. But noone wants to sacrifice part of their life for the betterment of others. It just doesnt make sense for me to have a go at the people who made my situation worse if i am not gonna be there on the ground to change and shake the system they have put up. I am not blaming anyone who doesnt do those things but if you dont do those things then you should really just live your life quietly.
@eleonarcrimson858 well i do those things you said and actively trying to make a difference in the streets (not american, btw) so i guess that's why i'm a bit disappointed.
@@winterhalperin2263 oh big ups to you then. I am just not that person lol
@@eleonarcrimson858 "It just doesnt make sense for me to have a go at the people who made my situation worse if i am not gonna be there on the ground to change and shake the system they have put up"
that doesn't make any sense. you shouldn't blame the people oppressing you because you aren't willing to put your life and future on the line to fight a losing battle? does that mean slaves shouldn't have been mad at slave owners because they weren't willing to participate in rebellions? billionaires actively make lives worse for everyone else. why shouldn't you have a go at them? they're having a go at everyone else. and they literally make it harder to fight against them because they control the media and financial wellbeing of so many people.
@@litapd311 let me rephrase that. You should be putting more effort in fighting those "losing battles" than sitting down and tweeting ur hate against them. Maybe this is just the difference between westerners and us. We either fight the losing battle or go on our day to day hence my mention of our country's situation.
Really funny how they talked about listening to podcasts while cooking, and I was literally listening to this podcast while cooking my dinner
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I think the submarine jokes mainly stem from the fact that the CEO had no regard to other peoples' lives, skipping so much safety protocol when building the submarine. For example, If you're voluntarily driving a car on the road with your eyes closed, i'm not gonna feel bad if you die.
1:11:53 that's the thing, zendaya isn't a billionare, she's not even remotely close to a billionare. she's closer to a person with 0 net worth than she is closer to a billionare by a collosal margin.
Jodi absolutely doesn't understand the weight of "a billionare", it is quite literally impossible to get that rich without exploiting humans en-masse. saying people hate billionares because they make more money than you is the most ignorant thing she's said for sure, it's like saying oh people are upset at the school shooter because he took revenge on society
or an easier example for twitch people to understand is saying people are upset at the gambling crypto rug pull streamer because they're not as popular as them
agreed, they seemed really out of touch. not surprising considering they're all millionaires who can fly around the world on a whim and never have to worry about money again. i think they forgot that billionaires literally kill millions of people a year by perpetuating class systems that have no regard for human lives if they're poor.
This one was lovely. Everybody giving each other time to speak and listening. Loved the food talk.
What's an example of an episode that wasn't lovely and all that
@@insidiositysome ppl lowkey talk over others (yvonne gets talked over for example)
As much as I love OTV as a whole, the way they compared a corporate billionaire to a laborer such as an actor as if they are even remotely comparable in accumulation of wealth, was sad. Zendaya is closer to being homeless than she is to being a billionaire.
I worry that Scarra thinks hes still invested in twitter. Hes so out of touch with his own investments that he doesn't know Elon bought out all the twitter stock and took the company private. Reminds me of the Graham Stephan episode where scarra doesn't even know how to log into his investment account. Makes me worry for him in the long term.
the titan convo was pretty tone deaf cuz these billionaires have abused and oppressed so many ppl to get where they are so ofc everyones gonna make jokes about them💀 they didnt earn that shit, they hurt so many ppl to get there. which is why ppl say fuck the rich. ppl are more saying fuck the billionaires not the millionaire streamers, youtubers, musicians and actors who worked to get there. thats not what anyone's saying. there is no such thing as an ethical billlionaire
I mean you can o ly have compassion to the 19 year old since his father basically forced him to go
What oppression did the creator of candy crush do
while i think the whole "kill the billionaires" movement is over the line, i think people that arent mad at billionaires have never done the quick math to know how much money they actually make. its not something you do ethically.
An example:
Lets say you are 50 years old and just made your very first billion. you started working at 20 years old, so you have been working for 30 years.
That would mean you, on average, made 641.025,61$ every week. A house every week, for 30 years.
And if you are jeff bezos, are 59 years old and have like 200 Billion dollars, if we assume you started working at 20 aswell, that means you made 14 million dollars every DAY!
i dont want them to die, but im not gonna be sad if they do. especially with the submarine story.. like, last month, a refugee ship sank and 78 people drowned. i bet most people reading this havent even heard of that. People fleeing their country in hopes of safety died and no one gave a fuck... but some rich folk voluntarily cram into a submarine and its on every news show for days with fuckin oxygen timers on it.
How do we tell them Connor was NOT the VA for Black Butler but just did an impression of it
no literally poor j michael tatum😭
no bc i love scarra and his anime takes but i was so 😭omgggg enough time has passed that ppl think connor imitating j michael tatum's fake british accent in skit calls meant that he was officially associated w black butler like i feel SOOO old but also it's so funny?? ^^; they'll prob figure it out at some point if they bring it up in convo again (maybe??)
I think that all the animosity that people had about the titanic that you all don’t feel is that people are struggling so hard right now just to survive. With inflation and greedflation from the companies that are making billions of dollars plus regular folk are hurting. So in your position you aren’t really feeling it too much but for people making 30k and haven’t gotten a raise since the pandemic started and now everything is going up in price we are all angry because the source of our problems is greed from the ultra rich. They don’t wanna pay their workers more but charge people more money for basic necessities and are making record profits of billions while everyone else is struggling to survive. And the more money you make the less you actually feel it which is why y’all have more empathy and compassion because you don’t feel what 70% of the population feels because you are in a higher class. Which is what also makes your feel nervous because you aren’t far away from being on the chopping block of hate of things get worse and then you all go back to being like the rest of us when stocks drop and people can’t afford to sub etc. 🤷🏽♂️.
I just randomly remembered Sydeon was Neytiri a while back. I dunno, it just popped up in my head.
And this ladies and gentlemen is what we call class solidarity.
The argument is that no just society would have to rely on Mark Cuban to sell medicine "at cost" and still be able to turn a profit.
imo the difference between a fine average joe rich person and a rich person I find to be so far detached from the reality of the everyday person is as simple as this: how did you accumulate your wealth? Did everyone working under you get the fruits of their labor that they are (imo) entitled to? Are you paying taxes or avoiding doing so by hiding wealth in nontaxable assets? etc. etc. I dont think any of the uber rich need to die, they need to be far more heavily regulated, etc. etc ty for coming to my Ted Talk
Really enjoyed this episode! Great discussion on social media, and perceptions of wealth and class. Scarra doubling down on Syd’s pool party had me dying 😂
I understand their POV on the "eat the rich" thing and how distasteful how people made fun of what happened. But I hope they would also try and learn more about the whole thing. Billionaires can solve problems from poverty to reversing the use of fossil fuel but they choose not to and continue to profit off of people's lives and the world's resources without a scratch. Billionaires don't even get taxed the way they should be. This whole "eat the rich" thing is more than just hate and is a part of a bigger movement for equality, wealth redistribution and stopping of over-exploitation of people and planet. It was kinda sad that they played it down to people hate billionaires because they make more money than actually the rest of the world. Regardless, I still love them and I wish they would try and look more into it :)
scarra "i feel disconnected from my viewer base" 1:19:08 yeah no shit dude u want on a rant for 10 mins talking about how u shouldn't hate on rich people and how nice some of them are
smelling salt continuity, 10/10 script writing ❤
Guys you are very privileged to live in first world country, and not being from finically struggling family. Because rich people drain money out of poor people and thats why we hate so much rich people and laugh when they arrogantly make mistakes. I am not trying to justify it but explain that poor people know who taking advantage of them every day and are not stupid, people want blood…!
Yall need some fact checking but love the episode
1:22:24 Lmfao Connor does do VA work but he didn't voice in Black Butler he just made prank call videos mimicking Sebastian's voice and also did other anime impressions, he even did a collab with the actual VA of Sebastian and they prank called fans
I wish you can make these podcasts more often
I don't think you guys should talk about how poor people think about rich people when you are the rich people
I know this is super minor, but conor didn't voice black butler in the anime. He just made videos doing voice impressions of the character
So Scarra lied to me
@Brofain I guess so, to get revenge you should torture him in the next video or podcast.
This trio is just SO amazing to me. Syd jod and scarra💘
I agree, fireworks shows are fine, but I HATE neighborhood fireworks. people in my area do it for weeks, and we'll into the middle of the night/early in the morning. it's the worst.
Outside of the Kick talk and the money talk, this was a good episode, but oh boy, were they out of touch on those topics.
Yes, Scarra, you are out of touch.
Yes, you are following the same fearmongering on millionaires to billionaires as some people do with tax brackets aimed at the top 5% to everyone else.
I understand you were looking at it through the lens of some rich people dying, but the majority of people in that case aren't celebrating the deaths, just don't care. On the internet, there are SO many other things that are more deserving of empathy from most angles. Why spend that limited emotional energy on people who you will never find relatable, doing something that they know is risky.
P.S CdawgVA isn't the Black Butler VA.
i love listening to them learn about sanrio LOL i used to watch hello kitty's furry tale theater as a kid so i've always been aware of the sanrio characters.
same as scarra, chococat was my favorite since i was a kid. he wasn't very popular so they stopped selling/pushing his toys/merch. but recently he had a comeback in the us! so now i'm happy to see him everywhere!
Chococat is also my favorite he’s always been my number one but sadly he barely has merch
even with all the foresight in the world i would never have expected scarra, in the final minutes of the podcast, to ask what "being ran through" means
upset about how the segment regarding the titan and the whole 'eat the rich' was discussed here :(
I really hope Scarra host the podcast everytime, or in the podcast most of the time, I really enjoy listening to Scarra story and topics, same goes Jodi and Syd, all are amazing!
Big scarra fans! :3
i always really enjoy all of your vlogs, i wish i could see what was cut however i realize not everyone is down for it, thank all of you so much for sharing all that all of you do
I like it went from a marathon to a 5K in the matter of seconds. Kinda large gap in distances there lmao.
I think the thing with the sub is how they chose to spend their money, that makes it so hard to empathize with
The quote Brodie referenced is “now I become death, destroyer of worlds”
These guys are kinda outta touch now. Maybe the reason Scarra feels disconnected is because he lives in LA only interacting with people of a similar income.
Really enjoyed this one. Nice flow throughout
I think Scarra is super out of touch on the billionaire topic.
Referencing Velocipastor is a W. Watched that in college 2 years ago, was a masterpiece. Never found anyone else that's seen the movie before this podcast!
It's so frustrating to continuously hear people tell us how we should feel. They missed a lot of the intricacies of being poor in a society where people are touting their wealth in whatever manner they might. But OUR response to people acting foolish and haphazardly doing dangerous things is NOT for you (a fairly wealthy guy, Scarra) to critique. It was tragic, yes, but it symbolized so much more for the working class. For those who are living paycheck to paycheck only for more welathy people to be like "Shame on you" when in reality they didn't give a fuck about the HUNDREDS of refugees who lost lives trying to find asylum. There are countless examples of how "policing how the poor act" is just another way to maintain a hierarchy inherent to our society. Do better, read more, listen to our comments. This was a disappointing podcast to listen to.
They never told you how you should feel... They just told how they feel..
None of them are even millionaires yet..
Not once did they tell us how we should feel. They were describing how THEY felt about the situation(s). Pay attention
Me and Jodie are so alike with the food stuff. I am also a sandwich eater, I also like to eat like a bird, I also eat to live... THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE LIKE ME!! I can't wrap my head round being a foodie. I'm too basic for that way of life. I genuinely look like a foodie though haha! Carrying extra here and there 😫
scarras question at the end had me dead lmao
Connor was not the voice actor for the Black Butler english dub.
I think the jokes about the submarine were mostly because it was getting way too much coverage in the news. It felt like it was because they are wealthy and, therefore, more important than all of the poor people. Poorer people who are dying, often due to the greed of the more important rich people.
I am not too passionate about making fan dead rich people, or people in general because of their status, but boy you need to be checked if you have the money to take this trip but you chose the literal budget option that is notorious for being unsafe.
Loved this episode, but I feel like Scarra missed the mark with the billionaire stuff. Yes, maybe having a strong resentment to rich people isn't always great. They are humans, and we shouldn't be celebrating their death, nor any human. The issue is THE SYSTEM that allows the super rich to exploit the working class. I wish someone brought that up.
Yeah the submarine thing wasn’t about them being wealthy , it was about doing something so clearly reckless and ignoring tons of red flags basically for clout.
Can anybody please tell me where Jodi got her sweatshirt from?
Does anyone else hear the super low bass beats during this podcast? Example at 13:00. Thought someone was walking upstairs in my house XD
wait is it scarras hands on the table??
Great podcast, friendly discussion of random BS and behind the scene stuff. What I come for.
Coincidentally this is what I sometimes put on while I cook
Syd is gorgeous
The "fk the rich" section is super tone-deaf. They are clearly very uncomfortable acknowledging their privilege.
At some point you have to take accountability for your situation and not just blame it on other people
Jodi eating so much bread is just the Norwegian genes
Man I love OTV but I really felt the disconnect this episode. I guess once you start making an above average amount of money you just cant relate to us average people. Yall felt really oblivious to the problems in the US and the wrongdoings of the rich. I agree we shouldn't ve making jokes about their deaths, but the people on those subs also have no regard for the lives of any of us or for any of the lives they destroy and have destroyed on their way to wealth. I feel little empathy for real life villains.
WE NEED A BRODIN CAM!!
Can someone tell me what is the name of the hangover pills, please?
the way Jodi held he star at Syd at the end like, im not even looking at scarra
yayayay new episode! 😊
33:54 Bobby broccoli “The man who faked human cloning.” Thank me later.
Them thinking Connor voices the butler in Black Butler is hilarious, no he just had a really good impression and girls thirsted over that lol (I watched him in his Black Butler RUclips era for his prank calls).
They put themselves in the submarine if they have that much money maybe they should take a class on informed decisions? Also many rich people don't do anything for charity unless its a tax write-off and it should be scaleable if you make an unfathomable amount of money then donating the same as an average person does not cleanse your soul xoxox
To me RUclips offers a healthy balance whenever it comes to Platforms You can Live Stream. Upload Videos and Shorts all on the same Channel. Which makes RUclips more versatile than Kick and Twitch Combined that is the advantage that RUclips Has.
I would go down to see the Titanic only if I can take a waterslide down there and a slow-moving waterspout back up! 💩🤣😂
I personally don’t go as far as to make jokes about the people who died but I do agree with eat the rich. I personally believe that there shouldn’t be 10+ millionaire or billionaires as long as we have people who struggle to simply live. It is fine to be making that amount of money but then you should focus all that extra money to better life for everyone else. That to me is where the rich start becoming bad people, but for me being a bad person is a spectrum. So there are rich people who are good people BUT they are a bad person to some degree even tho overall they’re a good person.
About the "liver pill", on my country we have something called "Ton Was", and it comes in VIALS. I felt so cool when I used to go out to drink and had my "protecting potion" before destroying my liver.
JODI IS A POCHACCO GIRLY TOOOO!!
scarra's always been my favorite but jodi and syd have quickly shot up to be my 2nd and 3rd favorites so this ep was fantastic
Connor isn't the english VA for Black Butler, he's just did fandubs/roleplay videos. He's also friends with the actual English VA
Man that segment is too far into the video. Why you make me scrub through to watch it then restart the video?
to dress for those movies you dress as a chernobyl barbie, glues some dolls head on your clothes and you're ready for it.
Wait.. I heard Destiny was gonna be on the pod. Whatever happened w that?
So scarra really is just a god in vlogging
what if they did a firework show via drones with lights controlled by a touch pad
I dont think its that weird people think you have to exploit people to become a billionaire. You could legit have a job that pays 100$ an hour, work 50 hours a week, every week, every month every year, and it would take you 4167 years to make a single billion... Theres people out there with MULTIPLE BILLIONS. So forgive us for thinking they are bad people. You simply cannot make that much money "working hard"
Excuse me but, VelociPastor is a classic!
50:34 I take vitamin b-12 and it helps with most of my hangovers
Can someone tell me what kind of pill they are talking about?
had to stop during the billionaire talk. you guys are really out of touch
What are the Pills they talking about? For hangover.
I read Kik and was very confused and worried for a little bit 😭
The bathroom sign was perfect, I want that sign now