Not wrong about Darnold, just early. He'll have a Baker Mayfield type year with the Vikings in 2024. But yeah, definitely wrong about McCarthy dudes a bum, probably more so than DJ
Likely it’ll be Nabers or Alt. Although I’d be happy with Harrison, I don’t see him dropping to #6. I see the Vikings desperate enough to go up for McCarthy.
Of course no one likes to talk about context, because it's easier to say success and failure is all on one person. DJ' Line: Josh Ezudu, Mark Glowinski, Ben Bredeson, Marcus Mckethon, and an injured Evan Neal TD line: Andrew Thomas, Justin Pugh, JMS, Ben Bredeson, and Tyree Phillips Saquon and Waller missed time with injuries, they were intentionally bringing Wandell back slowly off his torn ACL, and Jaylin Hyatt was getting 6th string reps at the time. But yeah, let's ignore all of that and boil everything down to the QB position.
I been screaming this all offseason. Jones also didn’t have Wandale, Hyatt hardly played, defense couldn’t stop anyone, special teams couldn’t even field punts.
I’ve only seen 1 mock trade that I think the Giants should go for Giants trade our 1st Round pick to the Broncos, for their 1st Round pick, 1st round pick in 2025 (which could be the #1 overall) and Patrick Surtain II
The biggest problem we had with Daniel Jones last year was the team that surrounded him. McCarthy would have the exact same problem. Picking a QB there would be the stupidest thing for the Giants to do.
Rich ---- you're entitled to be wrong! If the Giants didn't truly believe in Jones, then they would have guaranteed Russell Wilson the job, signed him for CHEAP and kept their draft picks! The only question is: Is their faith in Jones going to be rewarded with a strong comeback by their quarterback?
It's not worth taking a QB at 6 this year. The Giants have less offensive fire power than NE right now. A rookie QB has no chance to succeed in that situation. I think it's more likely the G-men take a WR this year (maybe a later round QB), then draft a new franchise guy with a top five pick in 25 for the new GM and HC.
Agreed. I think you have to give Jones another year, then you can get out of the contract easily, and whoever you Draft will have whatever support you Draft this year to step into. A lot of great WR and OL options just sitting there at 6.
Biggest problem with the Giants last year was the horsebleep offensive line that Schoen assembled (?) last year. You could see it with the Dallas debacle of a game when Jones was running for his life. And the season disintegrated from there.
They need a WR not another QB. If Jones don't work they have Lock and Devito. Who do they have offensively that gets other teams scared? Exactly so get one of the top WR and let's see what he can do with a real dawg that gets other teams scared.
It ultimately won't cost them a ton, and it was possible that DJ was going to have a good season in 23/24. If you look at the alternatives, basically only one QB swap went well last year, and that was Baker. It was a decision that didn't pay off, but it's not going to break their back. People are making a mountain out of this, when it's really just a hill
@t-bone2019 22 million dollars in dead money is minimal? Also God forbid we play him and he gets hurt again which due to an injury clause would fully guaruntee the 3rd year. dO sOmE ReEsUrcH
The nuance of the start to the 2023 season is completely lost on you Rich. Andrew Thomas got hurt on the 1st series in week 1. Saquon got hurt before the end of week 2. Evan Neal and Josh Ezudu were turnstiles. The defense was swiss cheese and they had to play down double digits with no pass blocking and no running back. Cmon man, do better.
Plus, I think the disfunction with Daboll and Kafka on the play calling had a lot to do with the slow start on offense. No one seems to be talking about that.
What's Schoen supposed to say? Yeah, he misfired on Jones (yeah, his own fault, we know!) and is now locked into a contract for another season with him. They have the #6 pick and a team with a whole lot of needs. All the top QB's will be gone by 6 and they don't have enough draft capital to trade up with all their other needs. Use the pick on a WR or OL, and take a QB in the 2nd or wait till next season. NY sportscasters will be raggin" on the Giants no matter what they do. Also, Eisen needs to give up on the "they decided to pay Jones instead of Saquon" lie. The numerous offers they made to Saquon are very much public knowledge. Why isn't he talking about his Jests? I thought they were going to the Super Bowl ? (Again)
Tommy cutlets had the benefit of a major o-line change which while not being monumental it was enough for him to have an extra second or two.I trust in Schoen & Dabs opinion over a guy who buys a plaque that says "Best Dad Ever".
omg....they offered sayquon the bag last october before jones and he did not take the offer....stop promoting they did not try....for Gods sake if you like DJ or not learn the facts
The media just likes to be lazy and not do their research when it comes to the giants. Rich is a good guy but he’s wildly clueless and is often wrong on all of his takes.
If you gotta guy who can throw it, you'll let him throw it. Harbaugh knew exactly what he had and ran the team accordingly. Best OL, great RB, WRs open all day long.... yet they ran it and ran it and ran it. If you gotta guy who can throw it, you'll let him throw it. "Because he didn't need to" is a euphemism for "He can't".
Are the giants actually going to have a qb room of jones, drew lock and a 1st round qb? Lot of money for just one to play.Seems like malpractice. They should fill out their roster first.
OR... JJ MCCARTHY ENDS UP A DUD & THE STUD WR YOU COULD'VE HAD BALLS OUT & YOU GAVE UP AN EXTRA 1ST RD PICK & NOW YOUR FRANCHISE IS BLEEEEP FOR THE NEXT 5-10 YEARS, BRILLIANT!!! 🤨
What a stupid thing to say. Tommy DeVito had Andrew Thomas and Saquan Barkley on the field. How did Tommy DeVito look against the Cowboys? DJ 15/28, 104 yards, 2 INTs, TD 4/27, 86 yards, 1 INT
Yeah.. Tommy D had nothing to lose. Kept it loose and was throwing chicken cutlets all over the field. This, of course, is not sustainable. Do you think they can grab the kid from Michigan? Or do they go for someone down the line, like Penix?
I don't think it is fair to compare Jones' games to Devitto's games and say Devitto played better Devitto faces much easier competition. Also Devitto had Thomas back at Left tackle which Jones didn't have and the defense couldn't stop anyone in the 1st 6 games they couldn't even tackle in the games Devitto started especially the wins the defense created on AVG 3 takeaways after not getting a takeaway until week 5. Also the narrative that Schoen picked to sign Jones long term over Saquon they did everything to sign Saquon long term from the bye week until just before the tag deadline they needed to pivot and sign Jones long term to keep the tag available for Saquon or they would have lost both. Lastly don't forget Jones was sacked on AVG 6 times a game they 49ers game I think he was sacked 10 times same as the Cowboys and the Giants were still in that game late in to the 3rd quarter without Saquon and with Josh Ezudu at LT or is a Guard who was not a good pass protector at G as a rookie it is not fair to compare the games Jones would have beaten the 3 teams Devito won he also would have won the Jets and Bills games the Giants would have been a fringe playoff team even with the bad start
Many Giants fans may be done with Jones, but they don't run the team, and thankfully don't have any say in the matter. OTOH, a poll of Giants fans in the Athletic today, showed that 59% of Giants fans (by FAR, the majority percentage) voted: "Stay at No. 6 and draft the best WR available." Personally, that's what I'd do. I don't care if they draft one of the top QBs if Schoen and Daboll really LOVE him. But they're not loaded with picks, they have a TON of holes on the roster, so if they pull that trigger, they better be f-ing right about the guy! They're stuck with Jones next year regardless, and the Giants are NOT just a QB upgrade away from being a good team. This is a team that still needs a LOT, and a stud WR will benefit ANY Giants QB. Best thing about the situation is that for once, no one knows what Schoen's is going to do. Not the fans, and certainly not the media, who've been beating the drum for a QB since the offseason began.
People talk about the 2022 season like Jones was amazing. He really wasn't above average. The Giants were incredibly well coached and they used a lot of trick plays and were hyper aggressive in their play calling which all came off. However in most passing categories they were bottom 10. The praise for Jones was he cut down his turnovers, but they did that by not throwing. I went back and watched a few of their games, it seems like he was told if your first read isn't open, run. Well that only works for so long. The contract seemed mad at the time, the was no indication that anyone else was thinking of offering anywhere near what the Giants paid him.
Giants need to draft a QB regardless Whether it’s in the later rounds or in the first round They need to draft a proper backup for Daniel Jones due to his injury history
Youre one of my favorites Rich. On any platform. Born and raised Giants fan. Tell me the last time a running back moved to a second team with a huge bag of money and looked like they did their rookie year. CMC excluded. Hes an outlier. Idk what happens. I think shoenn is playing with fire if they dont draft a qb but if the guy they want isnt there what is he supposed to do? Also ive watched every interview of dabs and Shoenn. Theyre talking like theyve been told by mara thwyre not on the hit seat. It feels like John is going to be patient this time
Rich is to close to this one to see clearly. Trading up for a qb would be a terrible decision for the giants. Startvanother qb with nothing around him and he just gets hurt
The problem I have with DJ is that he is hesitant on pass plays, he is scared to throw the ball, get intercepted and doesn't want to disappoint Dabol, DJ needs to trust his receivers and the OL have to be more consistent in pass blocking. I would let DJ play out this year and wave him next year if he doesn't improve from 2022.
The stats and the history say that 50% of QBs taken in the 1st round are busts, so out of the six (Williams, Maye, Daniels, McCarthy, Nix & Pennix) that could go in the first round, three will fail. Which 3?
the problem with jones is when it matters most he will lose the game for us. as a giants fan, the last qb we had was eli manning obviously. when it matters most he WON games and you cant deny it cause he proved it twice. its hard to move on from that fact.
If you reach for JJ you literally will be making the same mistake reaching for DJ. It doesn’t make sense to get another QB and there’s no solid WR to throw to or OL to protect him. Also he’s gonna probably sit a whole season behind Jones and Locke. Grab Joe Milton at round 5.
🔥🔥Hell no.. We need Malik NaBers with that 6th pick.. Also, we Kould get Bo Nix rookie kontrakt to help the Giants xontinue to Build the team.. Until either Bo Nix grown to an elite passer & reader & we are truly ready to Go All in on a QB that's our missing link 🌞😈🐸🔥🔥
Rich is a mile off here. I don't think any of the QB's coming out this year are worth sacrificing any trades to get up and get. He is falling in to the same trap so many do when a team is drafting high and have questions at QB. Can we go down the list of the many, many times teams took a guy high because they needed a guy and have it end in disaster. His Jets have written the book on it. I trust the Giants scouts and GM. You should never take a QB that high or trade up to get one unless you are absolutely sure they are your next franchise guy. You may still end up wrong. But you better believe with every ounce that you are right. I don't see that scenario here. They need way too much in other positions. But we will all know for sure in a week.
JJ McCarthy is such a reach at 6. He barely threw in Michigan. Look for the Giants to either trade back in to the first for Penix or take Nix in the second if they do draft a QB.
Take the best player available. At 6, JJ Mccarthy will not be the BPA. Not even close. Giants are taking Nabers or Odunze is my guess. They desperately need a play maker now that saquan is gone.
Rich: No quarterback is going to be better with a trashy O-Line that Daniel has had to deal with while he's been a New York Giant! Eli never got injured because he had Pro Bowl Caliber O-Line. Give that O-Line to Daniel that Eli had in 2007 and 2011 then we would be holding the Lumbardi Trophy! Daniel's had to deal with trash coaches, and poor development and poor decisions that put him in harms way including Barkley. No one can get better under that trash! GO GIANTS!!!!!😊
Every day Rich trolls the Giants by predicting they will replace Daniel Jones with an even worse McCarthy. Get Jones an actual receiver and some guys who block for him and see what can be done. McCarthy without playmakers or blocking and a lot less future draft picks for the Giants just compounds the bad decisions of the past.
I get the giants need a QB. But we can’t pass on a talent like these WRs. Let’s get one and then if we suck next year draft a QB. Jones contract ends there’s no big cap hit. Easy move on from.
cherry picking by Eisen... The beginning of the Giants schedule last season was brutal. Dabs did not have them ready to play. Once Jones went down who else scares you on that offense. I am not saying that Jones is the end -all but teams' game planned differently when he was there. What teams did Tommy Cutlets scare? Do you think opposing defenses were game-planning to stop Cutlets? Come on... Eisen has become unlistenable..
Great,a Jets fan wanting us to suck at quarterback as bad as they do. J J McCarthy was just lucky. Michigan never won a game because of him. They won despite how average to below average his college skills were. He won't be a professional quarterback at all after his rookie contract. If the Giants pick him we're doomed to another 7 to 10 more years of suckage.
The narrative that you need huevos to play for a NYC team is hilarious to me. Young kids live on social media. They think tabloids are funny. Talking heads are hilarious. News flash: social media is toxic nationwide. Any millenial or zoomer playing in NYC will be fine
I'm a Giants fan and I want nothing more than DJ crushing it this season. Just shutting everyone up behind a revamped healthy OL. If they love a QB they should take him, if not Nabers/Odunze/Alt is totally fine by me.
The Giants will ruin McCarthy or whoever they would take at QB. The o-line is atrocious, there’s exactly zero people to throw to, running game has left the building, and they have a coach who is not up to the task. Any Giants fan who has a rosy outlook going into this coming season is as delusional as Cowboys fan.
Why do executives, especially fr. th Giants, always doom themselves to repeat the same mistakes that their predecessor had done before him?! WTF!?! Watch the efen tape!!! Can't you learn from their mistakes?! I'll leave you with this other debacle of a QB, Dave Brown~!!!!!!! The same shite!
The idea to keep building around Daniel Jones is absurd. Be aggressive and do what Ernie Acrorsi and Andy Reid did. Move if you have to and go get your guy. Can’t win consistently without a top level quarterback. Anyone who believes Daniel Jones is that guy is fooling themselves.
Usually a Rich fan, but this has to be one of the worst ‘interpretations’ of anything I have ever heard. Literally just ignored everything Joe Schoen said and just made up his own narrative 😂 wild that this is the state of media nowadays.
Eisen can't be that Stupid. Maybe a top 1-3 QB will play great with nyg offense line... Maybe the last player in NFL draft played ok with great SF Oline
Nobody with any brains think McCarthy is a sure thing, don't buy what this fellow Wolverine grad is saying, even if Giants draft JJ he has no one to throw the ball to good luck with that not to mention the mediocre o-line
Big time Giants fans and I couldn’t agree with you more Rich!! Thank you for voicing that out! Exactly if the quarterback works out nothing will matter years from now. Go get your guy Joe! Cannot watch another year of Daniel Jones struggling. Especially now that he won’t have Saqoun to save his hide.
Rich,, as a life long self admitted jets, fan? and your stupid statement with Zack, and Darnold, "They Are The Guy" and Giving A Kings Ransom, and major major money the saviour of the football jets, Aaron Rodgers,, Why Are You So More Worried About The Giants?? And Not Your Jets??
JJ is a downgraded Daniel jones. The giants won’t draft any QB top 10 because they are trash and need to build a team first so the QB isn’t a complete bust no matter who they get and JJ isn’t even a first round talent let alone top 5.😊
Unfortunately, since there is nothing to report you go after this NON-STORY and actually receive money for doing so... What a waste. Oh well, you're not the only one...
A 3rd or 2nd to move up from 6 to 4 lol its going take a 1st or 2 seconds to move from 6 to 4 lol . For a guy who has not shown to deserve to be a 1st rd pick . This reminds me last year will levis was going top 5 . And well never happened. There has not been any more football played . How does anyone figure this guy who was a 3rd rd qb is now a top 6 pick
Rich also said that Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold were both gonna be the guy, so I don't buy this JJ hype, especially considering Rich's Michigan bias
Not wrong about Darnold, just early. He'll have a Baker Mayfield type year with the Vikings in 2024. But yeah, definitely wrong about McCarthy dudes a bum, probably more so than DJ
Rich doesn't know anything.
Me, him, every professional evaluator, and everyone of of you have gotten it wrong with QB prospects.
You’re not wrong but to shed some light…rich is also a die hard jets fan 😂
Exactly! His Jets can have him if he's so good.
Giants aren’t taking a qb
But they are
Been a Giants fan for 50+ years and I agree, takin a WR not QB
@@michaelthomas6088learn ball
Paying Saquon was always going to be stupid, don’t know why people harp on it
100% this.
Thank you!
Mistake was saying to Jones go out & see if u can get 40mil then we’ll talk
And paying DJ wasn’t? 🤦♂️
Obviously not because he had multiple suitors willing to pay him and he was the only playmaker on the whole damn team Offense or Defense.
IF the Giants move up to GET JJ , MAN i'm gonna lose my mind !!!HELL NO!!
Joe Schoen is focused on building a team. The odds are that, he will pick the best player available at number 6, a wide reciever
Or trade back
Likely it’ll be Nabers or Alt. Although I’d be happy with Harrison, I don’t see him dropping to #6. I see the Vikings desperate enough to go up for McCarthy.
Agree WR could help them better right away than a QB
@@tyleraguilar2474 there's been rumours of a trade with the Broncos (12) and getting Sutan in exchange plus a 2025 1st round. I'm taking that trade!!
Of course no one likes to talk about context, because it's easier to say success and failure is all on one person.
DJ' Line: Josh Ezudu, Mark Glowinski, Ben Bredeson, Marcus Mckethon, and an injured Evan Neal
TD line: Andrew Thomas, Justin Pugh, JMS, Ben Bredeson, and Tyree Phillips
Saquon and Waller missed time with injuries, they were intentionally bringing Wandell back slowly off his torn ACL, and Jaylin Hyatt was getting 6th string reps at the time. But yeah, let's ignore all of that and boil everything down to the QB position.
I been screaming this all offseason. Jones also didn’t have Wandale, Hyatt hardly played, defense couldn’t stop anyone, special teams couldn’t even field punts.
Amen dude. Jones also had at least 2 INTs that were literally in the hands of his target. Saquan alone caused 2 picks
I’ve only seen 1 mock trade that I think the Giants should go for
Giants trade our 1st Round pick to the Broncos, for their 1st Round pick, 1st round pick in 2025 (which could be the #1 overall) and Patrick Surtain II
Do it!!!!
This pick feels easy to me.
They know what an elite WR did for Josh Allen.
The biggest problem we had with Daniel Jones last year was the team that surrounded him. McCarthy would have the exact same problem. Picking a QB there would be the stupidest thing for the Giants to do.
Rich ---- you're entitled to be wrong!
If the Giants didn't truly believe in Jones, then they would have guaranteed Russell Wilson the job, signed him for CHEAP and kept their draft picks! The only question is: Is their faith in Jones going to be rewarded with a strong comeback by their quarterback?
What Schoen said was “we could go into the season with the QBs we have.” If you just read the quote, you’d think “that sounds pretty non-committal!”
It's not worth taking a QB at 6 this year. The Giants have less offensive fire power than NE right now. A rookie QB has no chance to succeed in that situation. I think it's more likely the G-men take a WR this year (maybe a later round QB), then draft a new franchise guy with a top five pick in 25 for the new GM and HC.
I agree, but also hope we don't have a top 5 pick next year.
The QB they take if they do won't play this year, they can place him behind DJ all year, its not like we cutting DJ this year
I don't disagree, but you could draft WR in rounds 2 and 3 this year and be good. This WR is really really good.
Agreed. I think you have to give Jones another year, then you can get out of the contract easily, and whoever you Draft will have whatever support you Draft this year to step into. A lot of great WR and OL options just sitting there at 6.
Hope not on the new mgmt
Rich pushes this "every team needs to draft a new qb" narrative every year and every year we see multiple teams in that bucket not do so.
Biggest problem with the Giants last year was the horsebleep offensive line that Schoen assembled (?) last year. You could see it with the Dallas debacle of a game when Jones was running for his life. And the season disintegrated from there.
They need a WR not another QB. If Jones don't work they have Lock and Devito. Who do they have offensively that gets other teams scared? Exactly so get one of the top WR and let's see what he can do with a real dawg that gets other teams scared.
Everybody knew signing Daniel Jones to a long term deal was stupid, except the guys who gave him the deal.
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It ultimately won't cost them a ton, and it was possible that DJ was going to have a good season in 23/24. If you look at the alternatives, basically only one QB swap went well last year, and that was Baker. It was a decision that didn't pay off, but it's not going to break their back. People are making a mountain out of this, when it's really just a hill
They can get out of it after this season, with minimal cap hit! Do some research!
@@t-bone2019it still affected their cap last year and the next.
@t-bone2019 22 million dollars in dead money is minimal? Also God forbid we play him and he gets hurt again which due to an injury clause would fully guaruntee the 3rd year.
dO sOmE ReEsUrcH
The nuance of the start to the 2023 season is completely lost on you Rich. Andrew Thomas got hurt on the 1st series in week 1. Saquon got hurt before the end of week 2. Evan Neal and Josh Ezudu were turnstiles. The defense was swiss cheese and they had to play down double digits with no pass blocking and no running back. Cmon man, do better.
Plus, I think the disfunction with Daboll and Kafka on the play calling had a lot to do with the slow start on offense. No one seems to be talking about that.
What's Schoen supposed to say? Yeah, he misfired on Jones (yeah, his own fault, we know!) and is now locked into a contract for another season with him. They have the #6 pick and a team with a whole lot of needs. All the top QB's will be gone by 6 and they don't have enough draft capital to trade up with all their other needs. Use the pick on a WR or OL, and take a QB in the 2nd or wait till next season. NY sportscasters will be raggin" on the Giants no matter what they do.
Also, Eisen needs to give up on the "they decided to pay Jones instead of Saquon" lie. The numerous offers they made to Saquon are very much public knowledge. Why isn't he talking about his Jests? I thought they were going to the Super Bowl ? (Again)
Tommy cutlets had the benefit of a major o-line change which while not being monumental it was enough for him to have an extra second or two.I trust in Schoen & Dabs opinion over a guy who buys a plaque that says "Best Dad Ever".
omg....they offered sayquon the bag last october before jones and he did not take the offer....stop promoting they did not try....for Gods sake if you like DJ or not learn the facts
The media just likes to be lazy and not do their research when it comes to the giants. Rich is a good guy but he’s wildly clueless and is often wrong on all of his takes.
If you gotta guy who can throw it, you'll let him throw it. Harbaugh knew exactly what he had and ran the team accordingly. Best OL, great RB, WRs open all day long.... yet they ran it and ran it and ran it. If you gotta guy who can throw it, you'll let him throw it. "Because he didn't need to" is a euphemism for "He can't".
Drafting Barkley and Jones are 2 of the biggest mistakes the Giants ever made
Gettleman will go down as one of the worst GM’s in Giants history. Just pathetic player selection across the board.
Are the giants actually going to have a qb room of jones, drew lock and a 1st round qb? Lot of money for just one to play.Seems like malpractice. They should fill out their roster first.
OR... JJ MCCARTHY ENDS UP A DUD & THE STUD WR YOU COULD'VE HAD BALLS OUT & YOU GAVE UP AN EXTRA 1ST RD PICK & NOW YOUR FRANCHISE IS BLEEEEP FOR THE NEXT 5-10 YEARS, BRILLIANT!!! 🤨
What a stupid thing to say. Tommy DeVito had Andrew Thomas and Saquan Barkley on the field. How did Tommy DeVito look against the Cowboys? DJ 15/28, 104 yards, 2 INTs, TD 4/27, 86 yards, 1 INT
Yeah.. Tommy D had nothing to lose. Kept it loose and was throwing chicken cutlets all over the field. This, of course, is not sustainable. Do you think they can grab the kid from Michigan? Or do they go for someone down the line, like Penix?
I don't think it is fair to compare Jones' games to Devitto's games and say Devitto played better Devitto faces much easier competition. Also Devitto had Thomas back at Left tackle which Jones didn't have and the defense couldn't stop anyone in the 1st 6 games they couldn't even tackle in the games Devitto started especially the wins the defense created on AVG 3 takeaways after not getting a takeaway until week 5. Also the narrative that Schoen picked to sign Jones long term over Saquon they did everything to sign Saquon long term from the bye week until just before the tag deadline they needed to pivot and sign Jones long term to keep the tag available for Saquon or they would have lost both. Lastly don't forget Jones was sacked on AVG 6 times a game they 49ers game I think he was sacked 10 times same as the Cowboys and the Giants were still in that game late in to the 3rd quarter without Saquon and with Josh Ezudu at LT or is a Guard who was not a good pass protector at G as a rookie it is not fair to compare the games Jones would have beaten the 3 teams Devito won he also would have won the Jets and Bills games the Giants would have been a fringe playoff team even with the bad start
Lifetime giants fan… I want giants to do whatever possible to get Marvin Harrison jr 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Do I call him Mel Eisen or Rich Kiper?
Many Giants fans may be done with Jones, but they don't run the team, and thankfully don't have any say in the matter. OTOH, a poll of Giants fans in the Athletic today, showed that 59% of Giants fans (by FAR, the majority percentage) voted: "Stay at No. 6 and draft the best WR available." Personally, that's what I'd do. I don't care if they draft one of the top QBs if Schoen and Daboll really LOVE him. But they're not loaded with picks, they have a TON of holes on the roster, so if they pull that trigger, they better be f-ing right about the guy! They're stuck with Jones next year regardless, and the Giants are NOT just a QB upgrade away from being a good team. This is a team that still needs a LOT, and a stud WR will benefit ANY Giants QB.
Best thing about the situation is that for once, no one knows what Schoen's is going to do. Not the fans, and certainly not the media, who've been beating the drum for a QB since the offseason began.
Offensive line or WR. Any QB will be walking into a bad situation.
Rich Eisen was called out for being a liar I love it😆😆
People talk about the 2022 season like Jones was amazing. He really wasn't above average. The Giants were incredibly well coached and they used a lot of trick plays and were hyper aggressive in their play calling which all came off. However in most passing categories they were bottom 10. The praise for Jones was he cut down his turnovers, but they did that by not throwing. I went back and watched a few of their games, it seems like he was told if your first read isn't open, run. Well that only works for so long. The contract seemed mad at the time, the was no indication that anyone else was thinking of offering anywhere near what the Giants paid him.
Giants need to draft a QB regardless
Whether it’s in the later rounds or in the first round
They need to draft a proper backup for Daniel Jones due to his injury history
Youre one of my favorites Rich. On any platform. Born and raised Giants fan. Tell me the last time a running back moved to a second team with a huge bag of money and looked like they did their rookie year. CMC excluded. Hes an outlier. Idk what happens. I think shoenn is playing with fire if they dont draft a qb but if the guy they want isnt there what is he supposed to do? Also ive watched every interview of dabs and Shoenn. Theyre talking like theyve been told by mara thwyre not on the hit seat. It feels like John is going to be patient this time
The word for the day: duplicitous. Used in a sentence: 'GM's in this season are duplicitous'.
don't want mccarthy. nabors is much better. why piss away a fortune to move from a better player to another desperate reach at QB
When you try to cover 32 teams you wind up knowing nothing.
Rich is to close to this one to see clearly. Trading up for a qb would be a terrible decision for the giants. Startvanother qb with nothing around him and he just gets hurt
The problem I have with DJ is that he is hesitant on pass plays, he is scared to throw the ball, get intercepted and doesn't want to disappoint Dabol, DJ needs to trust his receivers and the OL have to be more consistent in pass blocking. I would let DJ play out this year and wave him next year if he doesn't improve from 2022.
DJ has thrown to a bottom 5 ranked WR room since day one. Why should he trust any of them?
As an eagles fan, I would love to watch the giants take McCarthy. He’s clearly not a 1st round qb and I personally don’t think he’s even a backup qb
They are no way they are taking a QB unless one of the big 3 falls
The stats and the history say that 50% of QBs taken in the 1st round are busts, so out of the six (Williams, Maye, Daniels, McCarthy, Nix & Pennix) that could go in the first round, three will fail. Which 3?
the problem with jones is when it matters most he will lose the game for us. as a giants fan, the last qb we had was eli manning obviously. when it matters most he WON games and you cant deny it cause he proved it twice. its hard to move on from that fact.
If you reach for JJ you literally will be making the same mistake reaching for DJ. It doesn’t make sense to get another QB and there’s no solid WR to throw to or OL to protect him. Also he’s gonna probably sit a whole season behind Jones and Locke. Grab Joe Milton at round 5.
🔥🔥Hell no.. We need Malik NaBers with that 6th pick.. Also, we Kould get Bo Nix rookie kontrakt to help the Giants xontinue to Build the team.. Until either Bo Nix grown to an elite passer & reader & we are truly ready to Go All in on a QB that's our missing link 🌞😈🐸🔥🔥
yeah..a jet fan givin the Giants advice..lolz
Rich is a mile off here. I don't think any of the QB's coming out this year are worth sacrificing any trades to get up and get. He is falling in to the same trap so many do when a team is drafting high and have questions at QB. Can we go down the list of the many, many times teams took a guy high because they needed a guy and have it end in disaster. His Jets have written the book on it. I trust the Giants scouts and GM. You should never take a QB that high or trade up to get one unless you are absolutely sure they are your next franchise guy. You may still end up wrong. But you better believe with every ounce that you are right. I don't see that scenario here. They need way too much in other positions. But we will all know for sure in a week.
Barkley tagged himself. It worked out for him. Giants trade up for a QB and trade DJ.
Don’t draft JJ. Drop Jones after this year. Take a wide receiver or trade back
Rich seems like Saquon is a close personal fan hahaha. Also why is he speaking for all Giants fans
Trading up for McCarthy would set us back forever! Nabors at 6 get Nix in round two
JJ McCarthy is such a reach at 6. He barely threw in Michigan. Look for the Giants to either trade back in to the first for Penix or take Nix in the second if they do draft a QB.
Take the best player available. At 6, JJ Mccarthy will not be the BPA. Not even close. Giants are taking Nabers or Odunze is my guess. They desperately need a play maker now that saquan is gone.
Rich wants the Giants to draft a QB so bad and idk why lol. Joe wants to have people thinking they will draft a QB to get trade offers.
We don't want your MI guy, Rich. Have your Jets take him at 10 if he's so good. Rogers will be injured by week 6 cause Jets are gonna Jet. 😂
Rich: No quarterback is going to be better with a trashy O-Line that Daniel has had to deal with while he's been a New York Giant! Eli never got injured because he had Pro Bowl Caliber O-Line. Give that O-Line to Daniel that Eli had in 2007 and 2011 then we would be holding the Lumbardi Trophy! Daniel's had to deal with trash coaches, and poor development and poor decisions that put him in harms way including Barkley. No one can get better under that trash! GO GIANTS!!!!!😊
Genuine question. What makes rich eisen think he knows what giants fans want?
First time seeing NFL Team backdrop without the team logo. Just two sponsors, pathetic. Defraying bad investment perhaps?
Every day Rich trolls the Giants by predicting they will replace Daniel Jones with an even worse McCarthy. Get Jones an actual receiver and some guys who block for him and see what can be done. McCarthy without playmakers or blocking and a lot less future draft picks for the Giants just compounds the bad decisions of the past.
Get Jones this, get Jones that. 🤦♂️
Jones needs the moon just be competent.
Staniel cult still clinging to life huh?
Lol at thinking Mccarthy will ever be as bad as Jones
Rich is gonna eat his words. He’s incredibly wrong about taking a qb in the first round. The giants have greater needs that a qb can’t fix
Love Rich, but when it comes to JJ McCarthy he is incapable of an unbiased assessment. 😂
Great show
I get the giants need a QB. But we can’t pass on a talent like these WRs. Let’s get one and then if we suck next year draft a QB. Jones contract ends there’s no big cap hit. Easy move on from.
Shoulda spent $40 million on a crystal ball
At this point, it's up in the air what Giants gonna do. They popped off for one season and then crashed and burn the next season. So... what now?
cherry picking by Eisen... The beginning of the Giants schedule last season was brutal. Dabs did not have them ready to play. Once Jones went down who else scares you on that offense. I am not saying that Jones is the end -all but teams' game planned differently when he was there. What teams did Tommy Cutlets scare? Do you think opposing defenses were game-planning to stop Cutlets? Come on... Eisen has become unlistenable..
How does a rookie qb sitting on the bench help this year? The $46 million dollar guy is playing. Address other areas.
Michigan Homer at it again
Exactly....dj Is done....
Gosh I can't wait for this pre-draft bs to be over with..every freaking day every freaking show one stupid take after another
Great,a Jets fan wanting us to suck at quarterback as bad as they do. J J McCarthy was just lucky. Michigan never won a game because of him. They won despite how average to below average his college skills were. He won't be a professional quarterback at all after his rookie contract. If the Giants pick him we're doomed to another 7 to 10 more years of suckage.
The narrative that you need huevos to play for a NYC team is hilarious to me. Young kids live on social media. They think tabloids are funny. Talking heads are hilarious. News flash: social media is toxic nationwide. Any millenial or zoomer playing in NYC will be fine
Eisen is such a homer for Michigan, JJ had 8 passing attempts vs Penn State
Go Michigan!!!!!
I'm a Giants fan and I want nothing more than DJ crushing it this season. Just shutting everyone up behind a revamped healthy OL.
If they love a QB they should take him, if not Nabers/Odunze/Alt is totally fine by me.
The Giants will ruin McCarthy or whoever they would take at QB. The o-line is atrocious, there’s exactly zero people to throw to, running game has left the building, and they have a coach who is not up to the task. Any Giants fan who has a rosy outlook going into this coming season is as delusional as Cowboys fan.
Why do executives, especially fr. th Giants, always doom themselves to repeat the same mistakes that their predecessor had done before him?! WTF!?! Watch the efen tape!!! Can't you learn from their mistakes?! I'll leave you with this other debacle of a QB, Dave Brown~!!!!!!! The same shite!
The idea to keep building around Daniel Jones is absurd. Be aggressive and do what Ernie Acrorsi and Andy Reid did. Move if you have to and go get your guy. Can’t win consistently without a top level quarterback. Anyone who believes Daniel Jones is that guy is fooling themselves.
Nah Giants taking Malik Nabers or Brock bowers watch 💯💯
Usually a Rich fan, but this has to be one of the worst ‘interpretations’ of anything I have ever heard. Literally just ignored everything Joe Schoen said and just made up his own narrative 😂 wild that this is the state of media nowadays.
GO GIANTS!!!!?😊
Rich hope you are getting some payments from your Mich base - pushing JJ so much - mark my words - he is a dud!
Eisen can't be that Stupid.
Maybe a top 1-3 QB will play great with nyg offense line...
Maybe the last player in NFL draft played ok with great SF
Oline
We add 1 we and 1 RB Devi to will be in playoffs... Barkley sucked...
Too
Waste of a segment
Rich. It was the beginning of the year. Everybody sucked. Cutlets looked better because the team was better. Ridiculous take.
For JJ's sake, I hope you're wrong. Giants is a disaster waiting to happen. No WR's no running back? Disaster Movie Part 2.
Nobody with any brains think McCarthy is a sure thing, don't buy what this fellow Wolverine grad is saying, even if Giants draft JJ he has no one to throw the ball to good luck with that not to mention the mediocre o-line
Wrong
Yes, we’re done I don't care get a waterboy to play QB just no more DJ, please.
Go Chiefs
Why does Rich hate Giants fans?
Cause he's a jealous Jets fan.
Big time Giants fans and I couldn’t agree with you more Rich!! Thank you for voicing that out! Exactly if the quarterback works out nothing will matter years from now. Go get your guy Joe! Cannot watch another year of Daniel Jones struggling. Especially now that he won’t have Saqoun to save his hide.
Nonsense. Saquon got hurt in week 2. His inability to stay healthy was half the problem. Dude couldn't even rush for 1,000 yards last year.
Rich,, as a life long self admitted jets, fan? and your stupid statement with Zack, and Darnold, "They Are The Guy" and Giving A Kings Ransom, and major major money the saviour of the football jets, Aaron Rodgers,, Why Are You So More Worried About The Giants?? And Not Your Jets??
Lmao McCarthy is garb
I thought you were smarter than this. You do not know what ALL Giants fans want.
Can they please fire Rich he has no clue on anything and he sucked on ESPN too.😂
Fair enough joe lose his job nxt yr
JJ is a downgraded Daniel jones. The giants won’t draft any QB top 10 because they are trash and need to build a team first so the QB isn’t a complete bust no matter who they get and JJ isn’t even a first round talent let alone top 5.😊
Unfortunately, since there is nothing to report you go after this NON-STORY and actually receive money for doing so...
What a waste.
Oh well, you're not the only one...
A 3rd or 2nd to move up from 6 to 4 lol its going take a 1st or 2 seconds to move from 6 to 4 lol . For a guy who has not shown to deserve to be a 1st rd pick . This reminds me last year will levis was going top 5 . And well never happened. There has not been any more football played . How does anyone figure this guy who was a 3rd rd qb is now a top 6 pick
Unless you drink the kool-aid, you’ll see that Rich is right. They need to stop this mediocrity and move on from Daniel Jones.