@@bernardferdinand8056 Indeed. Because God is one. Three distinct persons sharing the one divine nature. The whoness of someone is different from the whatness of something-that’s neither contradictory nor implausible. We’re made in God’s image (singular). Just as we are to be baptized in the name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (plural). It’s easy to understand when you start studying, instead of being hypercritical and defensive.
@@MrChemenger if you draw the Trinitarian diagram, you end up with 4 dots. The law says to love the lord your god with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength. We are made in the image of the Triune God. Heart=Jesus, Mind=Father, soul-Holy Spirit, and strength = the essence, the I Am.
Thank you for this simple formula. I’m not that intelligent so this actually helps me to understand 3:1. Trying to understand trinity and oneness of God. May God bless you and your ministry!
I always appreciated seeing the Trinity clearly in the first 3 verses of Genesis. Verse one : In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth Verse two: the Spirit of God is involved Verse three : and God said...This is the Word of God, and the Word is Jesus Christ as we are told in John 1:1... I see the Trinity so clearly but for some strange reason not many folks are able to see this and that is unfortunate. This is just the first time that the Trinity is apparent for Bible readers and l find it so appropriate that it is in the first 3 verses of the Bible.
Scripture already answers that. 2 Corinthians 4:4(NKJV) - whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 - For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 - For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
@@lotte5173 in the beginning was the Word the Word was with God and the Word was God (John 1:1) How can you explain the Word was with God ??? It cleared the Word is distinct person from the Father yet he is also God.
@@thetrinitybusters well, no. By being honest and true to what the bible obviously teaches. Do you presume to understand what makes God, God? Well, it should be a little confusing don't you think? We wouldn't even be able to walk through the steps of how He actually created the universe, why do we expect to know categorically how the persons of God exist? It's a matter of trusting what the Bible plainly shows, friend. Cool name, but you're on the wrong side here.
@@thetrinitybusters seems to line up well with trinitarian understanding. One who is distinguished from the ancient of days will receive an everlasting kingdom and all shall submit to him which reminds me of Isaiah 45:23. We could go further but what do you think?
@@thetrinitybusters I certainly do. Daniel 7 shows 2 persons. Both are the 1 divine being. I don't limit God to being 1 being 1 person like I am. God can be here and there as the same being in two places or persons at the same time. That's what the text shows.
@@thetrinitybusters The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection. John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god. Lord says god: Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24 isaiah 13:17-19 Jeremiah 50:40 Amos 4:10-11 Job 33:4 King James Version 4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. mark 10:26-27,45 26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?” 27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” compare with psalm 49:7-9 7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, Nor give to God a ransom for him- 8 For the redemption of their souls is costly, And it shall cease forever- 9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit. Mark 10:45 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” compare with psalm 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave, For He shall receive me. Selah
Very clear - thank you! I always found it strange that Adam and Eve heard the Word of God walking in the garden.... how come? The Word may float, sound, resonate, fly ( connected to air) but .....walk?
Great new teaching from the OT (at least for me hearing it for the first time and I am several decades old). Just as I am keenly interested in the conversion of Muslims, I trust and pray godly devout Jews to get to watch this video and learn about their true Messiah (present even in the OT) their ancestors rejected and lost out on God's provision that is ultimately for all mankind (Jews and Gentiles).
THE WORD AS PERSON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVIDENCE !!! -- RELEVATION 19:11 : HE is called Faithful and true he judges and fights justly. "HE" has --- a name that no one knows but him --- !! His Name is the Word of God !! So the Word of God is a PERSON !!!
Correct. On several points: 1. The split finalized in 92 A.D. with the addition of an anti-Christian prayer in opening services at Synagogues. Up to that point, Synagogue worship amongst "Jews" remained the same and were lead by the Kohiem. Thlse who followed Jesus had additional services on Sunday, also lead by the Kohen that belived in Jesus. We see this in the Divine Liturgy of St .James (yes, that James in Jerusalem) and it has its final manifestation in the services known as Vespers, held on Saturday evening and it's Lord's day worship on Sunday when we take communion. Not much has changed in the Ancient since then. 2. The Holy Spirit is present and is called out specifically in Genesis. As we are made in GOD'S image, it is easy to see that GOD puts HIS Spirit into HIS creation. We experience this also as life force and guidance. And it is this presence that we are all aware of. ....🤔...people who do not understand how this works on GOD'S scale, have never noticed the effect of putting ones own spirit into a chosen endeavor. It IS a separate force from mere mechanical action. And often it is this aspect that makes greatness among men. 3. GOD speaks. And this is the prime and motive force of creation. It is this that was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary, and was made man. And The Word dwelt amongst us and had power over material and spiritual matter and this was demonstrated many times. The Word has this authority intrinsic. And upon HIS rending of hell and the captivity of death, he was Ressurected and was given authority and power over all things. ...GOD lives HIS creation. And he initiated the second exodus to save us all. The Ancient Church is very aware of this, it's scope and it's proof. And worship has continued to this day. ...non-trinitarians should pay attention. You are like Muslims who have made your own view of what god is. ...🤔...all that means is that you do not know what is the right way. You do not know and therefore you should open your hearts lest you are magnified in your own way, and find that you have turned away from GOD'S love and what he has done for HIS creation.
Brother, if you are not so busy, can you take my request for an extensive teaching on Isaiah 9 in the context of the oneness argument about Jesus being the Father, I always find quick responses or if you can recommend any literature on the subject. Thank you bro God bless you and your ministry.
Eventually someone has understood that the Spirit of GOD was at the beginning. Genesis 1:2 Now go be baptised by the creation of GOD. Only the creation of GOD can the demons be removed from your body. Remember: 'The Spirit of GOD moved upon the surface of the waters'. Do not accept false Baptism. I pray for mankind to truly embrace the word of JESUS CHRIST to walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen Peace be unto you all. Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
I know you might have big differences in theology with Dr. Michael Brown, but if you are not familiar with his volumes on Jewish objections to Jesus, you should get them, his knowledge of rabbinical literature (pre - and post- talmudic) is incomparable and superb, highly esteemed and respected even by Dr. James White.
First, I have to say, this is my favorite video that you've made and I thank you. I appreciate this format. It's precise and effective. Second, I've got a question for you. Does a person have to be baptized in order to be saved?
@@felipegastelum4356 No!!! the only reason I asked is because of the debates I've been having with Orthodox Christians online who say that in order for someone to be saved, they must be baptized. I bring this example up every time. I was looking for something a little more indepth. Thank you, though. I appreciate your response.
The spirit is not something separate from God. It is his spirit. Just like when it says that his spirit bears witness with our spirit, we don’t say that our spirit is something separate.
Brother your message is always great we learn alot of bible teaches tell me more about Luke chapter 16 verse 16 jesus said John the Baptist is last prophet explain me more God bless you brother
Could you do a video about the visions of prophets in the OT which show possibly show God as a man but not as an angel? Ezekiel and Zechariah I think if I am not mistaken. What is their significance? For example Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. It would be nice if you could do a series to unpack the book of Zechariah.
@@thetrinitybusters The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection. John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god. Lord says god: Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24 isaiah 13:17-19 Jeremiah 50:40 Amos 4:10-11 Job 33:4 King James Version 4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. mark 10:26-27,45 26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?” 27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” compare with psalm 49:7-9 7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, Nor give to God a ransom for him- 8 For the redemption of their souls is costly, And it shall cease forever- 9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit. Mark 10:45 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” compare with psalm 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave, For He shall receive me. Selah
@@OnTheThirdDay wow it's been a year since my comment! Well I am Orthodox so I'm more interested in Anthony vs Seraphim but I also admire William since I've seen a number of his debates and has done beautifully, specially against Shabir Aly and dr Michael Brown, yes you may not agree but I did watch the whole debate and William won that debate and dr Michael Brown wasn't honest.
@@OnTheThirdDay I respect your views and I understand what you're saying, that's why discerning is important. I benefit from all the people you have mentioned, also I wish you a blessed journey home (Orthodoxy) 😉☦️ God bless you brother
@@OnTheThirdDay I was an evangelical and I came to Orthodoxy, if you try, you will find the answers to those topics and you will get past it. But wtv happens, Christ is Risen! Christ is Lord!
Hi Anthony! you mentioned many points from scripture that indicate 'Two' Spirit Beings existing in the beginning before Creation. From these scriptures of truth you begin to defend 'Trinity', a doctrine of 'Three' persons, as having been hinted at in scripture. If Scripture presents us with 'Two' Holy Spirit Beings in Genesis, then there is only 'Two' not 'Three'. We know this because Scripture reveals to us the the Holy Spirit 'Father' and the Holy Spirit 'Son' (in human terms) and we are made in their (plural) image and likeness. The Spirit being, known as the 'Father' (Our Father in Heaven) was revealed to us by the 'Son of Man' who is 'Holy Spirit' clothed in flesh. No man has seen or heard the 'Father', it is the 'Son' who has revealed Him. After the Resurrection of the 'Son of Man', His body was Glorified to become 'Holy Spirit' once again. In this form He returned to be with His unseen 'Father' in Heaven. While on Earth, He told his Disciples that unless He went away, the 'Holy Spirit' could not come. He later told them that He would be with them till the end of the age, thus indicating that, He as 'Holy Spirit' would return to be with them, and never leave them alone. I believe it is time to move away from a Man Made doctrine and accept the truth of Scripture. From Genesis to Revelation the 'Son' has been revealed to us and He has revealed His Father to the World. Today we have 'One' God our 'Holy Spirit Father' and His 'Holy Spirit Son', Amen and Amen. May you be blessed.
@José Riquelme Hi Jose! Ezekiel 11:5, the Spirit of יהוה Yahuah (the Lord) came upon Ezekiel and spoke to him. Why does this make what I said nonsensical?
@José Riquelme I read the other verses! It is still the Spirit of Yahuah (the Lord) speaking to and through Ezekiel. Who do you think is another person? I am reading in Hebrew, the book of Ezekiel, what is your translation of the Bible?
in islam Jesus told his followers "don't worship me", the only situation for Jesus to speak this words its if people were worshipping him, that means people started worshipping him in his time, why did this people worship Jesus in the first place that he had to tell them to stop worshipping him. Just like muhammad told people to stop worshipping idols (except 3 daughters of allah), this means some people were worshipping idols else he woulnt say that. also in islam when allah took Jesus to heaven he asked him " did u tell people to worship you" this means that allah saw that people on earth were worshipping him else he wouldn't asked him this question maybe that's why he was sentenced to be crucified because getting worship is blasphemy. so my muslim friends christianity didn't get corrupted and people worshipped Jesus after some years rather in Jesus life people did worship him. edit: no other prophet ever said don't worship me, because no-one ever worshipped them despite the miracles they did, i wonder what Jesus preached that made some people worship him that he had to tell them to stop.
The founding fathers of the United States Constitution have done for mankind a great favor. They founded a government that resembles and operates like their God - “The Holy Trinity”, “The Blessed Three-in-One”. The followings are 12 similarities (resemblances) between God the U.S. Government: * (1) God is a Spirit - cannot be seen or touched. The U.S. Government is a spirit - cannot be seen or touched. * (2) We read about God on papers - the Bible. We read about the U.S. Government on papers - the United States Constitution. * (3) God not only creates, He also destroys. The U.S. Government not only creates, it also destroys. * (4) God makes Laws to govern His people. The U.S. Government makes Laws to govern its people. * (5) God has the powers to forgive and to restore His enemies. The U.S. Government has the powers to forgive and to restore its enemies. * (6) God can work His wills in and through the lives of people. The U.S. Government can work its wills in and through the lives of people. * (7) God is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of God’ there are three different Natures (Persons): (1) Father, (2) Word / Son of God, and (3) Spirit of God. The U.S. Government is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of the U.S. Government’ there are three different natures (governments): (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government. * (8) God has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Father says, “I am God.” (2) The Word / Son of God says, “I am God.” (3) The Spirit of God says, “I am God.” The U.S. Government has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Executive Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (2) The Legislature Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (1) The Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” * (9) The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible revealed God as a “trinity” in whose “oneness’” the three different Natures (Persons) of God are co-existing and are co-equal. The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the United States Constitution, but the United States Constitution revealed the U.S. Government as a “trinity” in whose “oneness” the three different natures (governments) of the U.S. Government are co-existing and are co-equal. * (10) {John 3:16} God took one of His three Natures called “Word of God”, clothed or covered Him in human skin (Jesus), and sent Him into the world to save lives. The U.S. Government took one of its three natures called “Executive Branch of Government”, clothed or covered it in human skin (soldiers/militaries/CIA/ambassadors), and sent them into the world (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan) to save lives. * (11) Throughout the Bible, it is the Father who decreed redemption (freedom) for His people, it is the Word / Son of God who purchased (paid for) redemption with His Life on the Cross, and it is the Holy Spirit who applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples. Throughout the United States Constitution, it is the Legislature Branch of Government that decreed redemption (freedom) for its people, it is the Executive Branch of Government that purchased (pays for) redemption with their lives on the battlefields, and it is the Judicial Branch of Government that applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples. * (12) Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the LORD, our God is one LORD.” But God is a Trinity - an unseen Entity with three different “Centers of Consciousness”. Deuteronomy 6:4 could also be read, “Hear O American people, the government, our U.S. Government is one government.” But the U.S. Government is a trinity - an unseen entity with three different “Centers of Consciousness”. * The disclaimer: God, unlike the U.S. Government, is unique in three ways: (1) God is Omniscient (All-knowing) - the U.S. Government is not omniscient, (2) God is Omnipotent (All-Powerful) - the U.S. Government is not omnipotent, and (3) God is Omnipresence (All-Present) - the U.S. Government is not omnipresence. * The irony: You will notice that all who deny the trinity will rather do so while living within the protection of the trinity. Book of Romans 1:22 reads, “Professing (recognizing) themselves to be wise, they become fools.” * The Reflection: Psalms 33:12 reads, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, and the people who He has chosen for His inheritance.”
@@MalY481 He quoted jewish commentaries prior to christ which agree with the trinity what you guys say is a modern neo judaic false flimsy accusations.
As a Christian of Jewish origin, I tell you that all your attempts to prove that the so-called "trinity" was a concept known to my fathers are ri-di-cu-lous. Do you think you are an expert on Jewish thought? You don't even know what you're talking about, in one of your videos I heard that you managed to get the pronunciation of בראשית wrong too (you pronounced the שוא under the bet as an "a"). Do you think when my fathers (the ancient Israelites) listened to Job 33:4 what did they think? Did they see the "plurality" of God? I tell you, absolutely not, because unlike you and your Triteist brothers, the God-fearing Israelites understood those words. Equally ridiculous are those Triteists who say that God "hid" from my fathers his Trinitarian nature which then had to be revealed in the New Testament, according to these fo-o-ls, all Israelites who lived from the time of the 12 patriarchs to the time of the Lord Jesus Christ God manifested in the flesh, they did not know such an important aspect of their God when in reality God said, for example that Moses contemplated the "likeness of the LORD" (Nu 12: 8), God revealed himself to his servants and never presented himself as "triune", you Triteists are indeed cur-se-d. The Spirit of the Lord is not another "person" God is Spirit (John 4:24) this concept of divine persons does not exist in biblical Hebrew thought, and you and your Triteist brothers even if you do everything, you cannot change this reality , even if you use certain verses whose meaning you do not understand in the light of the Biblical Text, if you use terms like אלהים and אחד that do not prove the trinity in any way or if you use pseudo-epigraphic text such as the zohar to prove that the trinitarian conception was known by the my people, when it is already for many years that through the studies of Gershom Scholem we know that it is not an ancient text as some believe, and as claimed by Yehuda Liebes it was the Catholic trinity that influenced the author or authors of the zohar being It was written in pre-Renaissance Spain, in Catholic pre-Renaissance Spain, all your attempts are ri-di-cu-lous. רוח יהוה is יהוה not someone else. In Isaiah 59:19 and Isaiah 63:14 (Deuteronomy 3:20) it is clearly understood, and also in the verse of Job 33: 4 it is understood that the Spirit of God is God himself, how can you, you Triteists, use that verse to confirm the trinity, if that very verse destroys it? There is no division of "persons", the concept itself does not exist in the Bible, but it did exist in the philosophical world then taken up by false Christians whom you call church fathers, a blas-phe-mous title because the only Father is God (Matthew 23:9 ) you polytheists are no different from the polytheistic he-re-tic Tertullian (who later believed the false prophet Montano, so it should be clear what kind of character we are talking about) from what he said commenting on Genesis 1:26.
Even the Jew, Saadia Gaon in his ספר האמונות והדעות (sefer haemunot vehaDeot) went against the Trinitarian interpretation of Job 33:4, and he did not say, that that Genesis 1:26 spoke of angels, (which is a misinterpretation because that נעשה would imply that the angels would have participated in our creation, and is not so) but said that God used a non-numeral qualitative plural (indicating what some call majesty). What you do not want (and / or probably cannot) understand is that we do not find this specific use by the Israelite kings because NOBODY dared USE THAT PLURAL EXPRESSION, WHICH GOD (and only HIM) used and which was reported IN THE TORAH (and then again in Isaiah 6 ) although we find something similar said by King David, in 1 Kings 1:33, where David speaks of himself (not in the first person) in the plural אדניכם. Did you know this? Probably not, and do you know why? Because you are not an expert, you are just an arr-oga-nt Triteist who wants to see his cur-se-d doctrine where it is not, that is, in the Holy Word of God. You think that adding some citations of scholars to your videos increases their authority but you are wrong, because even in that case you quote what you want and leave out other things, you are ri-di-cu-lous, as you did for the TPsJ that you did not mention that which says of Genesis 1:26 because there it does not support your tritheistic fantasies, even if as I said there the angels have nothing to do with it. You think Boyarin's no-n-sen-se is authoritative only because he is a Jew, then some might say that my people, the Jewish people are just an invention, because a Jew, Shlomo Sand, said so, your way is sli-m-y and incorrect, you just want to show that the Jews had a Trinitarian conception of God, but it's a lie, if you don't repent you will go to hell, because the God of Yisrael Jesus Christ is against you. Boyarin in his works tries to show that there was a kind of dualistic conception of divinity in Jewish thought, but his methodology is fallacious or will-fully ly-ing, just see what he wrote on the verse contained in the book of Daniel in relation to the כבר אנש (Da 7:13) and to the thrones. Even the synagogue of satan recognized that that verse speaks of the Messiah (Sanhedrin 98-a) but the phantom duality of Boyarin is not there, and then even if some of my people who did not believe in the Lord God of Israel Jesus Christ (the synagogue of satan) speculated on the so-called metatron, “little yhwh” etc… it doesn't mean that there was duality in the conception of divinity in Jewish thought, it just means that those who said those things were Jewish heretics who said nonsense that goes against the Bible. It is as if a person who reads in the Old Testament that many Israelites were idolaters, and begins to teach that idolatry was part of Jewish thought, this is very similar to what you de-spe-ra-te Triteists do, who go fishing wherever you can find usable material for your satanic propaganda of the false Catholic triune god. And then your impropriety can be seen from the fact that you did not continue Boyarin's quote in his The Gospel of the Memra: Jewish Binitarianism and the Prologue to John where he continues saying: “There have been obstacles to seeing the connections between the Memra and the Logos, however. Among Jewish scholars, as Hayward has put it, "since the time of Maimonides, it had been the custom to understand Memra, along with certain other Targumic terms like Shekhinta' [sic] (Presence) and Yeqara' [sic] (Glory), as a means of avoiding anthropomorphisms in speaking of God, and thus defending a notion of his incorporeality.
There is no trinity even in the targumim just look at what the Jewish Encyclopedia 1906 says (under the entry memra) to understand why they inserted the word "memra" to avoid anthropomorphic expressions (among other things, the targumim have various and uncertain dates, the Pseudo Jonathan, for example example, in Ge 21:21 he mentions the name of the daughter of the false prophet Muhammad, Fatima, so it is not a very ancient text and only a f-o-o-l would use certain texts to understand ancient Hebrew thought, which is based only on the Bible and not on various interpretations) but because those of my people probably, after the manifestation in the flesh of God as Lord Jesus Christ no longer wanted to recognize that God could manifest himself in the flesh contrary to the ancient biblical Israelites, but no ancient Hebrew reading the targum saw your Tritheist doctrine and the numbers of Jews who believe in the trinity confirm this, they are very few, so what are you talking about? You are like Peter Lombard who wanted to see that ri-di-cu-lous non-biblical doctrine in the term אלהים, but he didn't even know that אלהים is the plural of אלוה and not of אל. Does it bother you when someone tells you that we Jews don't believe in the trinity? Repent, if you do not repent you will surely have to get used to it, because I as a Christian of Jewish origin have been sent by God to destroy your lies, and it does not matter if you Triteists are in the majority, even the prophets of baal were many and the prophet Elijah was only one, but God is with me and against you Triteists. You Triteists do not follow the Bible, but the speculations of one of the most cur-se-d heretics of my people, Philo of Alexandria. That acc-ur-sed one tried to mix philosophy with the Word of God. It is he who in his QUAESTIONES ET SOLUTIONES IN GENESIM - 4,2 referring to Genesis 18:2 said that God and his two powers are actually one and that to the human mind appear as a triad, this is overwhelming proof, considering that certain concepts are not found in the Bible, but are found in his writings (and I could write other things) it is clear that the origin of the Trinitarian conception in relation to the God of Israel it has human and non-biblical origins. Philo was influenced by the thinking of Plato and others, he even went so far as to define the Logos as the "second god" and this proves that he was a heretic. And his heresies have influenced some false Christians such as Origen who also spoke of a "second god" it was Philo who argued that the Angel of YHWH was the Logos, because for him, influenced by philosophy, he considered God as transcendent and therefore he did not manifest himself at his creation but the Logos did, since for Philo the Logos was the mediator between God and his creation, and this is very similar to what the heretic Justin martyr said, and to what you Trinitarians of today say , that regarding the manifestations of God in the flesh described in the Old Testament you believe that they were manifestations of the Son and not of the Father. But this is not what the Bible teaches, in Shemot 3:6 the Angel of YHWH said: ויאמר אנכי אלהי אביך אלהי אברהם אלהי יצחק ואלהי יעקב Because it was a manifestation of God and not another "person". The concept of multiple people in God does not come from the Bible and my fathers would probably have seen it for what it is, that is, polytheism. *Jesus Christ is the God of Israel, the True and Only God*
@@-charutz6732 The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection. John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god. Lord says god: Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24 isaiah 13:17-19 Jeremiah 50:40 Amos 4:10-11 Job 33:4 King James Version 4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. mark 10:26-27,45 26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?” 27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” compare with psalm 49:7-9 7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, Nor give to God a ransom for him- 8 For the redemption of their souls is costly, And it shall cease forever- 9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit. Mark 10:45 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” compare with psalm 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave, For He shall receive me. Selah
@@-charutz6732 Just copying pasting hebrew words praphrasing things from traditions outside of the bible wont make your tantrums into facts deal with it.
@@johnseventhday9145 I wrote a very long comment, so much so that I had to divide it into 3 parts, and if you still don't understand that the trinity has nothing to do with the Bible, it means that you are a child of the devil, you are one who is spiritually blind, you have fallen into the deception and you are working to make others fall into the deception you have fallen into. Even the fact that you say: "The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages" proves your foo-lis-hness, most of my people, the Jewish people, do not believe in the trinity, our fathers never believed in the trinity , the passages that you indicate as Trinitarians, they began to be explained as Trinitarians only many centuries after the establishment of the Old Testament canon, as we see for example from the anathemas of the Council of Sirmium in 351, so coming to tell me that the Old Testament is full of Trinitarian passages is no-n-sense spoiled by your mentality as a tritheist son of the devil who does not know the Hebrew biblical expressions present in the Old Testament. This is shown by the fact that you quoted verses that in no way prove the trinity, in fact those who were believers among my fathers, the ancient Israelites, understood them and believed that God is one. In Shemot 34:5-6 we read: The LORD descended in the cloud and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. 6 The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, “The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness here we see that these expressions spoken by the Lord God of Israel did not make Moshe think that God is a trinity, because for Moshe those expressions had nothing strange. And the same thing happens with Genesis 19:24, which was explained in a binitarian way (and not Trinitarian yet, that happened some time later and this already shows that it is not a biblical doctrine but human, because it has developed in various phases) even from the already cited council of Sirmium of 351, this shows that you are not a Christian , you do not follow the Bible, but you are a blind man who is led by other blind people, and believes the interpretations that other heretics made centuries before you. Genesis 19:24 does not prove your Tritheist doctrine like Genesis 4:23 where we read that Lemech speaking to his wife said, "נשי למך" ("Lemech's wives") does not prove that Lemech was a trinity . There are particular expressions in Biblical Hebrew that may seem strange to the Gentile reader, but they were perfectly normal for the Hebrew authors of the Tanakh. The same is true in Esther 8:7-8 and it is obvious that King Ahasuerus was not a trinity, and as I mentioned in my previous comment (of which you probably understand next to nothing) in 1 Kings 1:33, the King David speaks of himself not in the first person, but none of his servants had a problem with this expression. Now I answer you on Isaiah 48:16 and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me ". Here is the prophet Isaiah speaking as evidenced by the following verse that says," Thus saith the LORD "phrase that the prophets always repeated from Exodus 4:22 onwards. And then John Calvin himself, a great lover of the Trinity (so much so as to approve the murder of a true Christian like Michael Servetus) admitted that Isaiah 48:16 does not speak of the Messiah. In fact, he wrote: "Many refer it to Christ, but the prophet designs no such thing. such forced and violent interpretations are to be avoided the Lord God is Spirit (John 4:24) are not "two different persons", but the same and only Spirit. That is why Yeshayahu's verse says "hath sent me". When the Lord sent His servants, as prophets or judges He sent them in His Spirit (Judges 3:10, Judges 6:34, Judges 11:29). And then in the Hebrew meaning to say The LORD or say the Spirit of the LORD is the same thing. Also when you say: "Just copying pasting hebrew words praphrasing things from traditions outside of the bible wont make your tantrums into facts deal with it" you are making yourself even more rid-icul-ous, because the Old Testament was written in Hebrew in the language of my fathers and therefore in my language, and I quote it. As for the "things from traditions outside of the bible", perhaps you did not understand that it is some of you Trinitarians who claim to find a link between Jewish thought and your Triteist doctrine using non-biblical texts such as the zohar, the targumim etc ... and I answered in relation to this, or when some Trinitarians (like Anthony Rogers fo-o-lish one) say what the Jews believe in relation to Genesis 1:26 but do not say what Saadya Gaon said, I said it to show them that it is not as they say, that not all spoke of angels in relation to Genesis 1:26. I only follow the Bible and no other text, you don't even know what you're talking about, and you really made a bad impression. *Jesus Christ is the God of Israel the Eternal Father the Almighty God the Most High God*
Where can I find the sources in the Church Fathers that show their interpretation of Genesis 1:1-3 and 1:26 in a Trinitarian way? Are you not confusing “personifications” with “persons”? I am yet to find the Trinity (as defined in 381CE) in any of your comments. Daniel Boyarin and Second Temple Jews are “Binitarians” aren’t they? They were never Trinitarians! Infact Boyarin thinks that ever since Christians included the Holy Spirit as a third divine Person they have “Crucified the Logos”. Your view here is misleading.
0:02 This verse can also be translated thus: "By the word of Jehovah the skies were made firm, and by the breath of his mouth all their power." Nice little nothing burger you've got there, delicious. Your entire case is made on a specific wording that is not found in the manuscripts.
The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection. John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god. Lord says god: Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24 isaiah 13:17-19 Jeremiah 50:40 Amos 4:10-11 Job 33:4 King James Version 4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. mark 10:26-27,45 26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?” 27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” compare with psalm 49:7-9 7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, Nor give to God a ransom for him- 8 For the redemption of their souls is costly, And it shall cease forever- 9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit. Mark 10:45 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” compare with psalm 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave, For He shall receive me. Selah
God is one( the Holy Spirit )but in the beginning from the eternity God the Holy Spirit divided himself into two equal Spirits (let's make man in our images) , every Spirit can generate spirit, God works in a Trinity way but God himself is not Trinity the holy Spirit referred in the Bible is the Devine holy spirit generated by the two spiritual beings but not God
The historian Dr. Needham points to the "trinity" resting on the shoulders of the Ante-Nicene Fathers. They were the ones that introduced the "trinity" into the Church. They were not popular, nor were they accepted. The majority of Christians were "Monarchian" according to Tertullian. They believed in only one God, who could not be divided. That is why Constantine's participation turned the world upside down with the New State Law and State Religion. All non-Trinitarians were persecuted from that point on. So, it was not the early Church that taught the Trinity! Your title is misleading.
Your comment shows an utter disregard for Scripture, which is the focus of the video. Why ignore Scripture and go hankering after a concocted narrative of what allegedly happened in church history? As for the claim that the Trinity rests on the shoulders of "the Ante-Nicene Fathers," I don't think you even know what you are saying here. If you grant that the Trinity is found in the fathers before (ante-) Nicea, then it was part of the received faith of the early Christians and the Modalistic Monarchians were the interlopers. To say that it was the Modalists who believed in one God who cannot be divided, as if Trinitarians do not believe this, is simply a straw man. You don't have to agree with Trinitarianism to speak accurately about it, and Trinitarianism affirms that the persons of the Trinity share a common, undivided essence. The distinctions are relational, not ontological. To say that it was Constantine who turned everyone against Modalism is extremely ignorant. Modalism was long since done away with by the time Nicea came around, and the contention at the time was between those who affirmed the full deity of the second person of the Trinity and those who advocated His ontological subordination to the Father (i.e. the Arians and the semi-Arians). Moreover, it was not the Modalists who became the subject of persecution after the council, but more often than not it was Trinitarians who were on the receiving end as the Arians got Constantine to compromise and capitulate. In this context Athanasius was banished from his bishopric and went into exile five times. A lot more can be said, but this video is about what the Bible says and the comment section is not the best place to catch you up on church history.
The trinitarians borrowed trinity from idolaters that existed before them. The name of the God of Israel is Yehovah not lord. Even idols like baal are lords, humans are lords. But no other lord is Yehovah because Yehovah is one Yehovah. There none else. There is none besides Yehova. Bearing the name Yehovah which means Yehovah is salvation does not make any one bearing that name or any other name containing the name of Yehovah God besides Yehovah alone who alone is God God of all gods Lord, Lord of all Lords, the only saviour and only most high..
In THE WORD OF THE LIVING GOD, when Jesus disciples asked Him, what should be the sign of HIS coming? In Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered them, Take heed that no man deceive you. This man is deceiving many now. No where in The Word of The Living GOD can you find the phrase god the son or god the holy spirit. So this so-called trinity is a lie. Study GOD'S WORD for yourself and you will rejoice when you read in Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said I thank Thee O' FATHER, Lord of heaven and earth because YOU have hid these things from the wise and intelligent and hast revealed them unto babes. Run from this wolf in sheep's clothing. You have been warned!
This is gold material. Thank you Anthony.
Looking forward to your next video brother
I love the short keep them coming brother. These will come in handy for sharing since most people have a short attention span. GOD Bless
Thank you for this. God bless you and your ministry.
You are such a great teacher, THANK YOU ♥️♥️
Thank you brother Anthony. It's always a blessing to listen your lecturers. God bless you and your ministry!
Well said Anthony! God bless you 🙏🏼✝️
A well presented and comprehensive intro
to the topic. 👍
Looking forward to the next instalment.
God. Image. Let. Us. Make. Man. He. Did. Not. Make. Three
@@bernardferdinand8056 Indeed. Because God is one. Three distinct persons sharing the one divine nature. The whoness of someone is different from the whatness of something-that’s neither contradictory nor implausible. We’re made in God’s image (singular). Just as we are to be baptized in the name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (plural). It’s easy to understand when you start studying, instead of being hypercritical and defensive.
Anthony you truely are a blessing from God. Thank you for your service.
This is a great response to my question. Thank you.
Do you mind saying what your question was?
@@MrChemenger if you draw the Trinitarian diagram, you end up with 4 dots. The law says to love the lord your god with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength. We are made in the image of the Triune God. Heart=Jesus, Mind=Father, soul-Holy Spirit, and strength = the essence, the I Am.
Precious, more videos in defense of the Trinity please.
This is so very good for the enlightenment of nominal Christians.
This is so very good AND for the enlightenment of nominal Christians.
Thank you !🙏💕💕
May the truth of scriptures be known to all, thank you Anthony Rogers, may God continue his blessings upon you and your family in Jesus name,Amen 🙏
Anthony on fire as usual 💪🏾 Aramaic Targums 💥 🔥💥 🔥💥 🔥
Thank you Pastor, Im going to have to type up some notes from this video for use to defend The Trinity.
I love your knowledge, brother.
"And I will establish my covenant between My Word [Memra} and between you (Targum Onkelos Gen. 17:7)"
Been waiting forever for David to post all of the videos in the series. Finally, we're gonna eventually get them all on Anthony's channel.
Always good exegesis
Praise Jesus
May God save and bless and always keep and protect you dear of God
Word of the Lord , Arm of the Lord n Angel of the Lord is Jesus Christ in Old Testament .
These videos are more helpful, thanks.
Thank you for this simple formula. I’m not that intelligent so this actually helps me to understand 3:1. Trying to understand trinity and oneness of God. May God bless you and your ministry!
wow!
knowledge!
I always appreciated seeing the Trinity clearly in the first 3 verses of Genesis.
Verse one : In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth
Verse two: the Spirit of God is involved
Verse three : and God said...This is the Word of God, and the Word is Jesus Christ as we are told in John 1:1...
I see the Trinity so clearly but for some strange reason not many folks are able to see this and that is unfortunate.
This is just the first time that the Trinity is apparent for Bible readers and l find it so appropriate that it is in the first 3 verses of the Bible.
I am struggling to understand why the Trinity is not clear hear. They keep telling me that trinitarians are reading into the text but it's right there
Scripture already answers that.
2 Corinthians 4:4(NKJV) - whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.
5 - For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake.
6 - For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
@@lotte5173 in the beginning was the Word the Word was with God and the Word was God (John 1:1) How can you explain the Word was with God ??? It cleared the Word is distinct person from the Father yet he is also God.
@@lotte5173 Revelation 3:4 it referring to the church of Laodicean.
@@lotte5173 Hebrew 1:4 refer to Son to be superior in nature and all creation include angel.
This is beautifully done. Awesome material!!
This is extremely helpful, as it’s becoming more and more difficult to defend the faith, in general..
@Lynne_F Hi friend, what do you mean more difficult?
If you would like some pointers on apologetic's let me know :)
@Erik Scanlan
A very relevant passage indeed.
@@gavin_hillI I think it’s becoming easier to defend the faith. People not wanting to listen is the problem or difficulty.
@@TifleTifle-xd2pf We are entering a time of Gods grace in that regard for sure. Praise God for your faith brother
THANK YOU SO MICH!!!!
Praise the lord
I'm from Indonesia
Blessings and peace to you brother. Keep fighting the good fight.
@@thetrinitybusters well, no. By being honest and true to what the bible obviously teaches. Do you presume to understand what makes God, God? Well, it should be a little confusing don't you think? We wouldn't even be able to walk through the steps of how He actually created the universe, why do we expect to know categorically how the persons of God exist? It's a matter of trusting what the Bible plainly shows, friend.
Cool name, but you're on the wrong side here.
@@thetrinitybusters seems to line up well with trinitarian understanding. One who is distinguished from the ancient of days will receive an everlasting kingdom and all shall submit to him which reminds me of Isaiah 45:23. We could go further but what do you think?
@@thetrinitybusters I certainly do. Daniel 7 shows 2 persons. Both are the 1 divine being. I don't limit God to being 1 being 1 person like I am. God can be here and there as the same being in two places or persons at the same time. That's what the text shows.
@@thetrinitybusters I agree that Daniel 7 shows Father and Son. What's the problem?
@@thetrinitybusters The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection.
John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god.
Lord says god:
Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24
isaiah 13:17-19
Jeremiah 50:40
Amos 4:10-11
Job 33:4
King James Version
4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
mark 10:26-27,45
26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?”
27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”
compare with
psalm 49:7-9
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother,
Nor give to God a ransom for him-
8 For the redemption of their souls is costly,
And it shall cease forever-
9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit.
Mark 10:45
45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”
compare with
psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave,
For He shall receive me. Selah
Hi Anthony, this is really the best there is, but where are the other video's of this series? They were on David's channel but now they are gone 😣
Very clear - thank you! I always found it strange that Adam and Eve heard the Word of God walking in the garden.... how come? The Word may float, sound, resonate, fly ( connected to air) but .....walk?
@@lotte5173 Finish the whole verse you son of the devil.
Good message I will save some of these to my logos app notes.
Great new teaching from the OT (at least for me hearing it for the first time and I am several decades old). Just as I am keenly interested in the conversion of Muslims, I trust and pray godly devout Jews to get to watch this video and learn about their true Messiah (present even in the OT) their ancestors rejected and lost out on God's provision that is ultimately for all mankind (Jews and Gentiles).
Wonderful, truly wonderful! Thank you!
HalleluYah ❤️
THE WORD AS PERSON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVIDENCE !!!
-- RELEVATION 19:11 :
HE is called Faithful and true he judges and fights justly. "HE" has --- a name that no one knows but him --- !! His Name is the Word of God !!
So the Word of God is a PERSON !!!
Correct. On several points:
1. The split finalized in 92 A.D. with the addition of an anti-Christian prayer in opening services at Synagogues.
Up to that point, Synagogue worship amongst "Jews" remained the same and were lead by the Kohiem. Thlse who followed Jesus had additional services on Sunday, also lead by the Kohen that belived in Jesus. We see this in the Divine Liturgy of St .James (yes, that James in Jerusalem) and it has its final manifestation in the services known as Vespers, held on Saturday evening and it's Lord's day worship on Sunday when we take communion.
Not much has changed in the Ancient since then.
2. The Holy Spirit is present and is called out specifically in Genesis.
As we are made in GOD'S image, it is easy to see that GOD puts HIS Spirit into HIS creation.
We experience this also as life force and guidance. And it is this presence that we are all aware of.
....🤔...people who do not understand how this works on GOD'S scale, have never noticed the effect of putting ones own spirit into a chosen endeavor.
It IS a separate force from mere mechanical action.
And often it is this aspect that makes greatness among men.
3. GOD speaks. And this is the prime and motive force of creation. It is this that was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary, and was made man.
And The Word dwelt amongst us and had power over material and spiritual matter and this was demonstrated many times. The Word has this authority intrinsic.
And upon HIS rending of hell and the captivity of death, he was Ressurected and was given authority and power over all things.
...GOD lives HIS creation. And he initiated the second exodus to save us all. The Ancient Church is very aware of this, it's scope and it's proof. And worship has continued to this day.
...non-trinitarians should pay attention. You are like Muslims who have made your own view of what god is.
...🤔...all that means is that you do not know what is the right way. You do not know and therefore you should open your hearts lest you are magnified in your own way, and find that you have turned away from GOD'S love and what he has done for HIS creation.
Brother, if you are not so busy, can you take my request for an extensive teaching on Isaiah 9 in the context of the oneness argument about Jesus being the Father, I always find quick responses or if you can recommend any literature on the subject. Thank you bro God bless you and your ministry.
Brother Anthony I am looking at buying my first hardback Targhums... Which book or books would you recommend me getting first? Thank you and God bless
First! ❤️
yay! :-)
Shalom Brother's where is part 2? :)
Eventually someone has understood that the Spirit of GOD was at the beginning.
Genesis 1:2
Now go be baptised by the creation of GOD.
Only the creation of GOD can the demons be removed from your body.
Remember:
'The Spirit of GOD moved upon the surface of the waters'.
Do not accept false Baptism.
I pray for mankind to truly embrace the word of JESUS CHRIST to walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
Amen
Peace be unto you all.
Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
Who. Made. D. World. Jesus. Made. The. World
What about part 2 brother?
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I know you might have big differences in theology with Dr. Michael Brown, but if you are not familiar with his volumes on Jewish objections to Jesus, you should get them, his knowledge of rabbinical literature (pre - and post- talmudic) is incomparable and superb, highly esteemed and respected even by Dr. James White.
Thanks. I appreciate Dr. Brown’s work in the area of Jewish apologetics and have benefited from it.
First, I have to say, this is my favorite video that you've made and I thank you. I appreciate this format. It's precise and effective.
Second, I've got a question for you. Does a person have to be baptized in order to be saved?
Was the robber at the cross baptized?
@@felipegastelum4356 No!!! the only reason I asked is because of the debates I've been having with Orthodox Christians online who say that in order for someone to be saved, they must be baptized. I bring this example up every time. I was looking for something a little more indepth. Thank you, though. I appreciate your response.
The spirit is not something separate from God. It is his spirit. Just like when it says that his spirit bears witness with our spirit, we don’t say that our spirit is something separate.
Genesis alone explicitly prove the plurality of God.
The Holy Bible proves the plurality of persons in God
Hey does anyone have textual connected for The Word and the Angel . Specifically I need one for Genesis 15 and an Angel passage .
Brother your message is always great we learn alot of bible teaches tell me more about Luke chapter 16 verse 16 jesus said John the Baptist is last prophet explain me more God bless you brother
This has the feel of your older videos. Is it one David was holding onto?
Could you do a video about the visions of prophets in the OT which show possibly show God as a man but not as an angel? Ezekiel and Zechariah I think if I am not mistaken. What is their significance? For example Ezekiel 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. It would be nice if you could do a series to unpack the book of Zechariah.
@@thetrinitybusters What are you trying to say I wonder? You seem to be some kind of unitarian to judge from your name.
@@thetrinitybusters The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection.
John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god.
Lord says god:
Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24
isaiah 13:17-19
Jeremiah 50:40
Amos 4:10-11
Job 33:4
King James Version
4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
mark 10:26-27,45
26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?”
27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”
compare with
psalm 49:7-9
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother,
Nor give to God a ransom for him-
8 For the redemption of their souls is costly,
And it shall cease forever-
9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit.
Mark 10:45
45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”
compare with
psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave,
For He shall receive me. Selah
PASTOR IS JESUS SITTING LITERALLY ON THE RIGHT HANDS OF GOD? OR IS JESUS SITTING ON THE THRONE IN THE POWER OF GOD? can you please help me understand.
Off topic, but brother Anthony id love to watch a debate between you and William Albrëcht on sola scriptura or apostolic succession
@@OnTheThirdDay wow it's been a year since my comment! Well I am Orthodox so I'm more interested in Anthony vs Seraphim but I also admire William since I've seen a number of his debates and has done beautifully, specially against Shabir Aly and dr Michael Brown, yes you may not agree but I did watch the whole debate and William won that debate and dr Michael Brown wasn't honest.
@@OnTheThirdDay I respect your views and I understand what you're saying, that's why discerning is important. I benefit from all the people you have mentioned, also I wish you a blessed journey home (Orthodoxy) 😉☦️ God bless you brother
@@OnTheThirdDay I was an evangelical and I came to Orthodoxy, if you try, you will find the answers to those topics and you will get past it. But wtv happens, Christ is Risen! Christ is Lord!
I think when it says by the word of the Lord, the heavens were made, I don’t think it means Jesus says the word, but by his command
Hi Anthony! you mentioned many points from scripture that indicate 'Two' Spirit Beings existing in the beginning before Creation. From these scriptures of truth you begin to defend 'Trinity', a doctrine of 'Three' persons, as having been hinted at in scripture. If Scripture presents us with 'Two' Holy Spirit Beings in Genesis, then there is only 'Two' not 'Three'. We know this because Scripture reveals to us the the Holy Spirit 'Father' and the Holy Spirit 'Son' (in human terms) and we are made in their (plural) image and likeness.
The Spirit being, known as the 'Father' (Our Father in Heaven) was revealed to us by the 'Son of Man' who is 'Holy Spirit' clothed in flesh. No man has seen or heard the 'Father', it is the 'Son' who has revealed Him. After the Resurrection of the 'Son of Man', His body was Glorified to become 'Holy Spirit' once again. In this form He returned to be with His unseen 'Father' in Heaven. While on Earth, He told his Disciples that unless He went away, the 'Holy Spirit' could not come. He later told them that He would be with them till the end of the age, thus indicating that, He as 'Holy Spirit' would return to be with them, and never leave them alone.
I believe it is time to move away from a Man Made doctrine and accept the truth of Scripture. From Genesis to Revelation the 'Son' has been revealed to us and He has revealed His Father to the World. Today we have 'One' God our 'Holy Spirit Father' and His 'Holy Spirit Son', Amen and Amen. May you be blessed.
@José Riquelme Hi Jose! Ezekiel 11:5, the Spirit of יהוה Yahuah (the Lord) came upon Ezekiel and spoke to him. Why does this make what I said nonsensical?
@José Riquelme I read the other verses! It is still the Spirit of Yahuah (the Lord) speaking to and through Ezekiel. Who do you think is another person? I am reading in Hebrew, the book of Ezekiel, what is your translation of the Bible?
D. Word. Is. Jesus. The spirit. Is. Jesus
Is. God. Spirit. Different. From. Himself. Is. It. The. Spirit. Of. God. Or. God. The. Spirit
in islam Jesus told his followers "don't worship me", the only situation for Jesus to speak this words its if people were worshipping him, that means people started worshipping him in his time, why did this people worship Jesus in the first place that he had to tell them to stop worshipping him.
Just like muhammad told people to stop worshipping idols (except 3 daughters of allah), this means some people were worshipping idols else he woulnt say that.
also in islam when allah took Jesus to heaven he asked him " did u tell people to worship you" this means that allah saw that people on earth were worshipping him else he wouldn't asked him this question maybe that's why he was sentenced to be crucified because getting worship is blasphemy. so my muslim friends christianity didn't get corrupted and people worshipped Jesus after some years rather in Jesus life people did worship him.
edit: no other prophet ever said don't worship me, because no-one ever worshipped them despite the miracles they did, i wonder what Jesus preached that made some people worship him that he had to tell them to stop.
That’s easy he forgave sin he brought the die back to life
The founding fathers of the United States Constitution have done for mankind a great favor. They founded a government that resembles and operates like their God - “The Holy Trinity”, “The Blessed Three-in-One”. The followings are 12 similarities (resemblances) between God the U.S. Government:
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(1) God is a Spirit - cannot be seen or touched. The U.S. Government is a spirit - cannot be seen or touched.
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(2) We read about God on papers - the Bible. We read about the U.S. Government on papers - the United States Constitution.
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(3) God not only creates, He also destroys. The U.S. Government not only creates, it also destroys.
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(4) God makes Laws to govern His people. The U.S. Government makes Laws to govern its people.
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(5) God has the powers to forgive and to restore His enemies. The U.S. Government has the powers to forgive and to restore its enemies.
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(6) God can work His wills in and through the lives of people. The U.S. Government can work its wills in and through the lives of people.
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(7) God is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of God’ there are three different Natures (Persons): (1) Father, (2) Word / Son of God, and (3) Spirit of God. The U.S. Government is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of the U.S. Government’ there are three different natures (governments): (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government.
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(8) God has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Father says, “I am God.” (2) The Word / Son of God says, “I am God.” (3) The Spirit of God says, “I am God.” The U.S. Government has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Executive Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (2) The Legislature Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (1) The Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.”
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(9) The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible revealed God as a “trinity” in whose “oneness’” the three different Natures (Persons) of God are co-existing and are co-equal. The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the United States Constitution, but the United States Constitution revealed the U.S. Government as a “trinity” in whose “oneness” the three different natures (governments) of the U.S. Government are co-existing and are co-equal.
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(10) {John 3:16} God took one of His three Natures called “Word of God”, clothed or covered Him in human skin (Jesus), and sent Him into the world to save lives. The U.S. Government took one of its three natures called “Executive Branch of Government”, clothed or covered it in human skin (soldiers/militaries/CIA/ambassadors), and sent them into the world (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan) to save lives.
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(11) Throughout the Bible, it is the Father who decreed redemption (freedom) for His people, it is the Word / Son of God who purchased (paid for) redemption with His Life on the Cross, and it is the Holy Spirit who applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples. Throughout the United States Constitution, it is the Legislature Branch of Government that decreed redemption (freedom) for its people, it is the Executive Branch of Government that purchased (pays for) redemption with their lives on the battlefields, and it is the Judicial Branch of Government that applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples.
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(12) Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the LORD, our God is one LORD.” But God is a Trinity - an unseen Entity with three different “Centers of Consciousness”. Deuteronomy 6:4 could also be read, “Hear O American people, the government, our U.S. Government is one government.” But the U.S. Government is a trinity - an unseen entity with three different “Centers of Consciousness”.
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The disclaimer: God, unlike the U.S. Government, is unique in three ways: (1) God is Omniscient (All-knowing) - the U.S. Government is not omniscient, (2) God is Omnipotent (All-Powerful) - the U.S. Government is not omnipotent, and (3) God is Omnipresence (All-Present) - the U.S. Government is not omnipresence.
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The irony: You will notice that all who deny the trinity will rather do so while living within the protection of the trinity. Book of Romans 1:22 reads, “Professing (recognizing) themselves to be wise, they become fools.”
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The Reflection: Psalms 33:12 reads, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, and the people who He has chosen for His inheritance.”
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When you look for trinity in the Bible for hundreds of years...
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@Erik Scanlan
Looks like Jews never managed to find it...
Ever heard of the two powers in heaven?
@@dwong9289
Which one is stronger?
@@MalY481 He quoted jewish commentaries prior to christ which agree with the trinity what you guys say is a modern neo judaic false flimsy accusations.
John. 20 :21-22. Please. Read. The. Spirit. Çame. From. Jesus. Ñot. Off. Himself. Jesue. Spirit
Can God and his word be two persons? How about the Spirit of God? Spirit represents his life and breath? Are his life and breath, another person?
As a Christian of Jewish origin, I tell you that all your attempts to prove that the so-called "trinity" was a concept known to my fathers are ri-di-cu-lous. Do you think you are an expert on Jewish thought? You don't even know what you're talking about, in one of your videos I heard that you managed to get the pronunciation of בראשית wrong too (you pronounced the שוא under the bet as an "a").
Do you think when my fathers (the ancient Israelites) listened to Job 33:4 what did they think? Did they see the "plurality" of God? I tell you, absolutely not, because unlike you and your Triteist brothers, the God-fearing Israelites understood those words. Equally ridiculous are those Triteists who say that God "hid" from my fathers his Trinitarian nature which then had to be revealed in the New Testament, according to these fo-o-ls, all Israelites who lived from the time of the 12 patriarchs to the time of the Lord Jesus Christ God manifested in the flesh, they did not know such an important aspect of their God when in reality God said, for example that Moses contemplated the "likeness of the LORD" (Nu 12: 8), God revealed himself to his servants and never presented himself as "triune", you Triteists are indeed cur-se-d.
The Spirit of the Lord is not another "person" God is Spirit (John 4:24) this concept of divine persons does not exist in biblical Hebrew thought, and you and your Triteist brothers even if you do everything, you cannot change this reality , even if you use certain verses whose meaning you do not understand in the light of the Biblical Text, if you use terms like אלהים and אחד that do not prove the trinity in any way or if you use pseudo-epigraphic text such as the zohar to prove that the trinitarian conception was known by the my people, when it is already for many years that through the studies of Gershom Scholem we know that it is not an ancient text as some believe, and as claimed by Yehuda Liebes it was the Catholic trinity that influenced the author or authors of the zohar being It was written in pre-Renaissance Spain, in Catholic pre-Renaissance Spain, all your attempts are ri-di-cu-lous.
רוח יהוה is יהוה not someone else. In Isaiah 59:19 and Isaiah 63:14 (Deuteronomy 3:20) it is clearly understood, and also in the verse of Job 33: 4 it is understood that the Spirit of God is God himself, how can you, you Triteists, use that verse to confirm the trinity, if that very verse destroys it? There is no division of "persons", the concept itself does not exist in the Bible, but it did exist in the philosophical world then taken up by false Christians whom you call church fathers, a blas-phe-mous title because the only Father is God (Matthew 23:9 ) you polytheists are no different from the polytheistic he-re-tic Tertullian (who later believed the false prophet Montano, so it should be clear what kind of character we are talking about) from what he said commenting on Genesis 1:26.
Even the Jew, Saadia Gaon in his ספר האמונות והדעות (sefer haemunot vehaDeot) went against the Trinitarian interpretation of Job 33:4, and he did not say, that that Genesis 1:26 spoke of angels, (which is a misinterpretation because that נעשה would imply that the angels would have participated in our creation, and is not so) but said that God used a non-numeral qualitative plural (indicating what some call majesty). What you do not want (and / or probably cannot) understand is that we do not find this specific use by the Israelite kings because NOBODY dared USE THAT PLURAL EXPRESSION, WHICH GOD (and only HIM) used and which was reported IN THE TORAH (and then again in Isaiah 6 ) although we find something similar said by King David, in 1 Kings 1:33, where David speaks of himself (not in the first person) in the plural אדניכם. Did you know this? Probably not, and do you know why? Because you are not an expert, you are just an arr-oga-nt Triteist who wants to see his cur-se-d doctrine where it is not, that is, in the Holy Word of God.
You think that adding some citations of scholars to your videos increases their authority but you are wrong, because even in that case you quote what you want and leave out other things, you are ri-di-cu-lous, as you did for the TPsJ that you did not mention that which says of Genesis 1:26 because there it does not support your tritheistic fantasies, even if as I said there the angels have nothing to do with it. You think Boyarin's no-n-sen-se is authoritative only because he is a Jew, then some might say that my people, the Jewish people are just an invention, because a Jew, Shlomo Sand, said so, your way is sli-m-y and incorrect, you just want to show that the Jews had a Trinitarian conception of God, but it's a lie, if you don't repent you will go to hell, because the God of Yisrael Jesus Christ is against you. Boyarin in his works tries to show that there was a kind of dualistic conception of divinity in Jewish thought, but his methodology is fallacious or will-fully ly-ing, just see what he wrote on the verse contained in the book of Daniel in relation to the כבר אנש (Da 7:13) and to the thrones. Even the synagogue of satan recognized that that verse speaks of the Messiah (Sanhedrin 98-a) but the phantom duality of Boyarin is not there, and then even if some of my people who did not believe in the Lord God of Israel Jesus Christ (the synagogue of satan) speculated on the so-called metatron, “little yhwh” etc… it doesn't mean that there was duality in the conception of divinity in Jewish thought, it just means that those who said those things were Jewish heretics who said nonsense that goes against the Bible.
It is as if a person who reads in the Old Testament that many Israelites were idolaters, and begins to teach that idolatry was part of Jewish thought, this is very similar to what you de-spe-ra-te Triteists do, who go fishing wherever you can find usable material for your satanic propaganda of the false Catholic triune god. And then your impropriety can be seen from the fact that you did not continue Boyarin's quote in his The Gospel of the Memra: Jewish Binitarianism and the Prologue to John where he continues saying:
“There have been obstacles to seeing the connections between the Memra and the Logos, however. Among Jewish scholars, as Hayward has put it, "since the time of Maimonides, it had been the custom to understand Memra, along with certain other Targumic terms like Shekhinta' [sic] (Presence) and Yeqara' [sic] (Glory), as a means of avoiding anthropomorphisms in speaking of God, and thus defending a notion of his incorporeality.
There is no trinity even in the targumim just look at what the Jewish Encyclopedia 1906 says (under the entry memra) to understand why they inserted the word "memra" to avoid anthropomorphic expressions (among other things, the targumim have various and uncertain dates, the Pseudo Jonathan, for example example, in Ge 21:21 he mentions the name of the daughter of the false prophet Muhammad, Fatima, so it is not a very ancient text and only a f-o-o-l would use certain texts to understand ancient Hebrew thought, which is based only on the Bible and not on various interpretations) but because those of my people probably, after the manifestation in the flesh of God as Lord Jesus Christ no longer wanted to recognize that God could manifest himself in the flesh contrary to the ancient biblical Israelites, but no ancient Hebrew reading the targum saw your Tritheist doctrine and the numbers of Jews who believe in the trinity confirm this, they are very few, so what are you talking about?
You are like Peter Lombard who wanted to see that ri-di-cu-lous non-biblical doctrine in the term אלהים, but he didn't even know that אלהים is the plural of אלוה and not of אל. Does it bother you when someone tells you that we Jews don't believe in the trinity? Repent, if you do not repent you will surely have to get used to it, because I as a Christian of Jewish origin have been sent by God to destroy your lies, and it does not matter if you Triteists are in the majority, even the prophets of baal were many and the prophet Elijah was only one, but God is with me and against you Triteists.
You Triteists do not follow the Bible, but the speculations of one of the most cur-se-d heretics of my people, Philo of Alexandria. That acc-ur-sed one tried to mix philosophy with the Word of God. It is he who in his QUAESTIONES ET SOLUTIONES IN GENESIM - 4,2 referring to Genesis 18:2 said that God and his two powers are actually one and that to the human mind appear as a triad, this is overwhelming proof, considering that certain concepts are not found in the Bible, but are found in his writings (and I could write other things) it is clear that the origin of the Trinitarian conception in relation to the God of Israel it has human and non-biblical origins.
Philo was influenced by the thinking of Plato and others, he even went so far as to define the Logos as the "second god" and this proves that he was a heretic. And his heresies have influenced some false Christians such as Origen who also spoke of a "second god" it was Philo who argued that the Angel of YHWH was the Logos, because for him, influenced by philosophy, he considered God as transcendent and therefore he did not manifest himself at his creation but the Logos did, since for Philo the Logos was the mediator between God and his creation, and this is very similar to what the heretic Justin martyr said, and to what you Trinitarians of today say , that regarding the manifestations of God in the flesh described in the Old Testament you believe that they were manifestations of the Son and not of the Father. But this is not what the Bible teaches, in Shemot 3:6 the Angel of YHWH said:
ויאמר אנכי אלהי אביך אלהי אברהם אלהי יצחק ואלהי יעקב
Because it was a manifestation of God and not another "person". The concept of multiple people in God does not come from the Bible and my fathers would probably have seen it for what it is, that is, polytheism.
*Jesus Christ is the God of Israel, the True and Only God*
@@-charutz6732 The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection.
John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god.
Lord says god:
Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24
isaiah 13:17-19
Jeremiah 50:40
Amos 4:10-11
Job 33:4
King James Version
4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
mark 10:26-27,45
26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?”
27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”
compare with
psalm 49:7-9
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother,
Nor give to God a ransom for him-
8 For the redemption of their souls is costly,
And it shall cease forever-
9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit.
Mark 10:45
45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”
compare with
psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave,
For He shall receive me. Selah
@@-charutz6732 Just copying pasting hebrew words praphrasing things from traditions outside of the bible wont make your tantrums into facts deal with it.
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I wrote a very long comment, so much so that I had to divide it into 3 parts, and if you still don't understand that the trinity has nothing to do with the Bible, it means that you are a child of the devil, you are one who is spiritually blind, you have fallen into the deception and you are working to make others fall into the deception you have fallen into. Even the fact that you say: "The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages" proves your foo-lis-hness, most of my people, the Jewish people, do not believe in the trinity, our fathers never believed in the trinity , the passages that you indicate as Trinitarians, they began to be explained as Trinitarians only many centuries after the establishment of the Old Testament canon, as we see for example from the anathemas of the Council of Sirmium in 351, so coming to tell me that the Old Testament is full of Trinitarian passages is no-n-sense spoiled by your mentality as a tritheist son of the devil who does not know the Hebrew biblical expressions present in the Old Testament. This is shown by the fact that you quoted verses that in no way prove the trinity, in fact those who were believers among my fathers, the ancient Israelites, understood them and believed that God is one.
In Shemot 34:5-6 we read:
The LORD descended in the cloud and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. 6 The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, “The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness
here we see that these expressions spoken by the Lord God of Israel did not make Moshe think that God is a trinity, because for Moshe those expressions had nothing strange. And the same thing happens with Genesis 19:24, which was explained in a binitarian way (and not Trinitarian yet, that happened some time later and this already shows that it is not a biblical doctrine but human, because it has developed in various phases) even from the already cited council of Sirmium of 351, this shows that you are not a Christian , you do not follow the Bible, but you are a blind man who is led by other blind people, and believes the interpretations that other heretics made centuries before you.
Genesis 19:24 does not prove your Tritheist doctrine like Genesis 4:23 where we read that Lemech speaking to his wife said, "נשי למך" ("Lemech's wives") does not prove that Lemech was a trinity . There are particular expressions in Biblical Hebrew that may seem strange to the Gentile reader, but they were perfectly normal for the Hebrew authors of the Tanakh. The same is true in Esther 8:7-8 and it is obvious that King Ahasuerus was not a trinity, and as I mentioned in my previous comment (of which you probably understand next to nothing) in 1 Kings 1:33, the King David speaks of himself not in the first person, but none of his servants had a problem with this expression. Now I answer you on Isaiah 48:16 and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me ". Here is the prophet Isaiah speaking as evidenced by the following verse that says," Thus saith the LORD "phrase that the prophets always repeated from Exodus 4:22 onwards. And then John Calvin himself, a great lover of the Trinity (so much so as to approve the murder of a true Christian like Michael Servetus) admitted that Isaiah 48:16 does not speak of the Messiah. In fact, he wrote: "Many refer it to Christ, but the prophet designs no such thing. such forced and violent interpretations are to be avoided the Lord God is Spirit (John 4:24) are not "two different persons", but the same and only Spirit. That is why Yeshayahu's verse says "hath sent me". When the Lord sent His servants, as prophets or judges He sent them in His Spirit (Judges 3:10, Judges 6:34, Judges 11:29).
And then in the Hebrew meaning to say The LORD or say the Spirit of the LORD is the same thing. Also when you say: "Just copying pasting hebrew words praphrasing things from traditions outside of the bible wont make your tantrums into facts deal with it" you are making yourself even more rid-icul-ous, because the Old Testament was written in Hebrew in the language of my fathers and therefore in my language, and I quote it. As for the "things from traditions outside of the bible", perhaps you did not understand that it is some of you Trinitarians who claim to find a link between Jewish thought and your Triteist doctrine using non-biblical texts such as the zohar, the targumim etc ... and I answered in relation to this, or when some Trinitarians (like Anthony Rogers fo-o-lish one) say what the Jews believe in relation to Genesis 1:26 but do not say what Saadya Gaon said, I said it to show them that it is not as they say, that not all spoke of angels in relation to Genesis 1:26. I only follow the Bible and no other text, you don't even know what you're talking about, and you really made a bad impression.
*Jesus Christ is the God of Israel the Eternal Father the Almighty God the Most High God*
Where can I find the sources in the Church Fathers that show their interpretation of Genesis 1:1-3 and 1:26 in a Trinitarian way?
Are you not confusing “personifications” with “persons”? I am yet to find the Trinity (as defined in 381CE) in any of your comments.
Daniel Boyarin and Second Temple Jews are “Binitarians” aren’t they? They were never Trinitarians! Infact Boyarin thinks that ever since Christians included the Holy Spirit as a third divine Person they have “Crucified the Logos”. Your view here is misleading.
0:02 This verse can also be translated thus: "By the word of Jehovah the skies were made firm, and by the breath of his mouth all their power." Nice little nothing burger you've got there, delicious. Your entire case is made on a specific wording that is not found in the manuscripts.
And here the video spent 12 minutes personifying the memra or word so what's your point ?
@@Couragethecowardlydog509 my point is that this is not exegesis.
Ruach, not nishmat. :)
@@Michael-ArchonaeusAll the ancient Jews thought it was.
@@toomanymarys7355 In ancient society spirit, breath, and wind were all basically synonymous, so what do you mean?
There is no trinity in old testament keep doing gymnastics
The trinity is seen throughout the Bible. The Old Testament alone is filled with trinity passages. God speaking say's, the LORD God and his Spirit SENT HIM in Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the LORD God , and his Spirit, hath sent me. The LORD sends the LORD to dwell in Zion in Zechariah 2:8-13 Zechariah 2:8-13 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath HE SENT ME unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. [9] For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. [10] Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. [11] And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath SENT ME unto thee. [12] And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. [13] Be silent, O all flesh, before the LORD: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation The LORD GOD - THE REDEEMER, SENT TO ZION Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD . The LORD arrives in Zion. BEHOLD YOUR GOD! Isaiah 40:3,9 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. [9] O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Look at that, God came and was sent by God. So much for your objection.
John the baptist alludes to this and says its jesus christ in john 1:23 meaning Jesus christ is god.
Lord says god:
Genesis 18:20,33 and genesis 19:24
isaiah 13:17-19
Jeremiah 50:40
Amos 4:10-11
Job 33:4
King James Version
4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
mark 10:26-27,45
26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, “Who then can be saved?”
27 But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”
compare with
psalm 49:7-9
7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother,
Nor give to God a ransom for him-
8 For the redemption of their souls is costly,
And it shall cease forever-
9 That he should continue to live eternally,And not see the Pit.
Mark 10:45
45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”
compare with
psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave,
For He shall receive me. Selah
God is one( the Holy Spirit )but in the beginning from the eternity God the Holy Spirit divided himself into two equal Spirits (let's make man in our images) , every Spirit can generate spirit, God works in a Trinity way but God himself is not Trinity the holy Spirit referred in the Bible is the Devine holy spirit generated by the two spiritual beings but not God
The historian Dr. Needham points to the "trinity" resting on the shoulders of the Ante-Nicene Fathers. They were the ones that introduced the "trinity" into the Church. They were not popular, nor were they accepted. The majority of Christians were "Monarchian" according to Tertullian. They believed in only one God, who could not be divided. That is why Constantine's participation turned the world upside down with the New State Law and State Religion. All non-Trinitarians were persecuted from that point on. So, it was not the early Church that taught the Trinity! Your title is misleading.
Your comment shows an utter disregard for Scripture, which is the focus of the video. Why ignore Scripture and go hankering after a concocted narrative of what allegedly happened in church history?
As for the claim that the Trinity rests on the shoulders of "the Ante-Nicene Fathers," I don't think you even know what you are saying here. If you grant that the Trinity is found in the fathers before (ante-) Nicea, then it was part of the received faith of the early Christians and the Modalistic Monarchians were the interlopers.
To say that it was the Modalists who believed in one God who cannot be divided, as if Trinitarians do not believe this, is simply a straw man. You don't have to agree with Trinitarianism to speak accurately about it, and Trinitarianism affirms that the persons of the Trinity share a common, undivided essence. The distinctions are relational, not ontological.
To say that it was Constantine who turned everyone against Modalism is extremely ignorant. Modalism was long since done away with by the time Nicea came around, and the contention at the time was between those who affirmed the full deity of the second person of the Trinity and those who advocated His ontological subordination to the Father (i.e. the Arians and the semi-Arians). Moreover, it was not the Modalists who became the subject of persecution after the council, but more often than not it was Trinitarians who were on the receiving end as the Arians got Constantine to compromise and capitulate. In this context Athanasius was banished from his bishopric and went into exile five times.
A lot more can be said, but this video is about what the Bible says and the comment section is not the best place to catch you up on church history.
The trinitarians borrowed trinity from idolaters that existed before them.
The name of the God of Israel is Yehovah not lord.
Even idols like baal are lords, humans are lords. But no other lord is Yehovah because Yehovah is one Yehovah. There none else. There is none besides Yehova.
Bearing the name Yehovah which means Yehovah is salvation does not make any one bearing that name or any other name containing the name of Yehovah God besides Yehovah alone who alone is God God of all gods Lord, Lord of all Lords, the only saviour and only most high..
You made a series of assertions and did not deal with the evidence presented in the video. Watch it again and submit to the word of God.
In THE WORD OF THE LIVING GOD, when Jesus disciples asked Him, what should be the sign of HIS coming? In Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered them, Take heed that no man deceive you. This man is deceiving many now. No where in The Word of The Living GOD can you find the phrase god the son or god the holy spirit. So this so-called trinity is a lie. Study GOD'S WORD for yourself and you will rejoice when you read in Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said I thank Thee O' FATHER, Lord of heaven and earth because YOU have hid these things from the wise and intelligent and hast revealed them unto babes. Run from this wolf in sheep's clothing. You have been warned!
I love your knowledge, brother.
"And I will establish my covenant between My Word [Memra} and between you (Targum Onkelos Gen. 17:7)"