Fairly Common Mistake. Existentialist such as Camus and Sartre didn't believe that life had no purpose, only that it had no intrinsic purpose. It was believed by the ancient philosophers that purpose was defined by essence. So for example if you took a knife and rid it of its blade, it would no longer be a knife. So the essence of a knife is the blade its end. In humans they believed that in order to do your purpose was to use your natural strengths, So for example if you were good at math, the ancient philosophers would think that "good at math" was part of your essence, and therefore in order to do your purpose you must use your math skills. Sartre and Camus believed that existence precedes essence, hence the term Existentialist. So rather instead you choose your lifes purpose.
You're not "wrong" but you're missing the point of the video, which is not an explanation of existentialist philosophy but an analysis of a film. Whether the philosophy explored here is incomplete or not, the ideas expounded are still valid on their own.
@@alejoparedes2388 Still worth pointing out a mistake, there's a lot of useless comments on RUclips, after all. At least this serves a purpose - best to nip misinformation in the bud quickly.
@@alejoparedes2388 I think he didn't miss the point of the video, but rather you missed the point of his comment, which was to correct simple misconceptions.
Tiny detail from a great film...the old beggar woman on the Pont Alexandre III imitated by Oskar is a real person. I live in Paris and I often saw her when I worked in the area. Hope she's still going strong.
Beautiful analysis. I am always usually a little sceptical while watching a movie analysis anticipating it will go overboard into the pseudo zone. And I was especially very sceptical of any analysis of a movie seemingly as bleak as Holy Motors. But now I can safely say the existential absurdity and its parallel with the world of showcraft is indeed a dominant theme of the movie.
I heard that the director has said Holy Motors is about the disparate personas we take on the internet. For example, we might behave completely different on 4chan than we do on Facebook. But you can't trust directors to tell you what their work is "about" haha
Cool, thanks for sharing! I went back to that scene and one of the websites on the tombstones is lapeausurleos.com, "the skin on Leos." Perhaps our online personas are different skins we try on.
Thanks for this very interesting and deep analysis. To me, it this movie makes a lot of sense as an analogy for life and its interplay with fiction, movies and stories (as in art-imitating-life-or-the-other-way-around). This for me too boils down to the motif of "continuing although we don't know why", being driven by the "holy motor". At the end of the story, they lived happily ever after - and then? what was it all for?
I thought he was just reincarnating into different lives, and the limo was like limbo, and the driver like a guardian angel or something. I thought perhaps he had to pay karmic debt or was trapped in a type of prison.
@FilmFormula I love this series! Your analysis is very insightful and accessible. I'd love to get your takes on Cronenberg's Cosmopolis and, further down the line, Paul Verhoven's Elle.
Very, very interesting review. I didn't take anything involving God from the many possible meanings of this film, other than the title. I interpret this as a reflection of how many societies are being flooded with actors (not literally), and ppl w multiple personas and agendas. And simultaneously - in the midst of this confusion of what or who is genuine - the things that invade our privacy and monitor our every move and breath (cameras) are becoming so much smaller and unnoticeable that we may find ourselves unknowingly but assuredly on a set, a part of a hoax, gag, film... unable to distinguish fiction from reality.
Fairly Common Mistake. Existentialist such as Camus and Sartre didn't believe that life had no purpose, only that it had no intrinsic purpose. It was believed by the ancient philosophers that purpose was defined by essence. So for example if you took a knife and rid it of its blade, it would no longer be a knife. So the essence of a knife is the blade its end. In humans they believed that in order to do your purpose was to use your natural strengths, So for example if you were good at math, the ancient philosophers would think that "good at math" was part of your essence, and therefore in order to do your purpose you must use your math skills. Sartre and Camus believed that existence precedes essence, hence the term Existentialist. So rather instead you choose your lifes purpose.
You're not "wrong" but you're missing the point of the video, which is not an explanation of existentialist philosophy but an analysis of a film. Whether the philosophy explored here is incomplete or not, the ideas expounded are still valid on their own.
@@alejoparedes2388 Still worth pointing out a mistake, there's a lot of useless comments on RUclips, after all. At least this serves a purpose - best to nip misinformation in the bud quickly.
@@alejoparedes2388 I think he didn't miss the point of the video, but rather you missed the point of his comment, which was to correct simple misconceptions.
Brilliant break down, I can't wait to watch this again now. My eyes are open.
Just watched this movie. Very strange without context. I'm glad I came across your review.
Very strange with context too :)
lol, fair enough!
Mumbai film festival 2013 interview with the director is also worth watching to get some ideas about this film.
Tiny detail from a great film...the old beggar woman on the Pont Alexandre III imitated by Oskar is a real person. I live in Paris and I often saw her when I worked in the area. Hope she's still going strong.
ouuuh that's an interesting fact. hope she's doing okay
I too used to see that old lady on the bridge, but not for a few years. One can only hope she has a roof over her head now.
Thank you for making this; a breath of fresh air
Beautiful analysis. I am always usually a little sceptical while watching a movie analysis anticipating it will go overboard into the pseudo zone. And I was especially very sceptical of any analysis of a movie seemingly as bleak as Holy Motors. But now I can safely say the existential absurdity and its parallel with the world of showcraft is indeed a dominant theme of the movie.
Well said. I like your analysis bc you back with evidence. Thanks
Well thanks for the video! It's a really cool interpretation and contributed to my understanding of the film quite a lot! Thanks!
I heard that the director has said Holy Motors is about the disparate personas we take on the internet. For example, we might behave completely different on 4chan than we do on Facebook.
But you can't trust directors to tell you what their work is "about" haha
Ooh, and in the graveyard, all the tombstones say "Check out my website..."
Cool, thanks for sharing! I went back to that scene and one of the websites on the tombstones is lapeausurleos.com, "the skin on Leos." Perhaps our online personas are different skins we try on.
Nice direct quote from a Mark Kermode review dickhead
@@lukess.s 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for this very interesting and deep analysis. To me, it this movie makes a lot of sense as an analogy for life and its interplay with fiction, movies and stories (as in art-imitating-life-or-the-other-way-around). This for me too boils down to the motif of "continuing although we don't know why", being driven by the "holy motor". At the end of the story, they lived happily ever after - and then? what was it all for?
Great job, Film Formula! I really like your tastes.
Gonna watch it right now.
I thought he was just reincarnating into different lives, and the limo was like limbo, and the driver like a guardian angel or something. I thought perhaps he had to pay karmic debt or was trapped in a type of prison.
Great Analysis!
@FilmFormula I love this series! Your analysis is very insightful and accessible. I'd love to get your takes on Cronenberg's Cosmopolis and, further down the line, Paul Verhoven's Elle.
Elle is one of my favorites of the year!
Very, very interesting review. I didn't take anything involving God from the many possible meanings of this film, other than the title. I interpret this as a reflection of how many societies are being flooded with actors (not literally), and ppl w multiple personas and agendas. And simultaneously - in the midst of this confusion of what or who is genuine - the things that invade our privacy and monitor our every move and breath (cameras) are becoming so much smaller and unnoticeable that we may find ourselves unknowingly but assuredly on a set, a part of a hoax, gag, film... unable to distinguish fiction from reality.
Well done
is this Kristen Schaal narrating?
you just gave me existencial depression .. thanks tho! lovely analysis
Leos Carax est Dieu.