Fixing the Problem of Shacks in 20 minutes / Ep 193

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @livelikesong
    @livelikesong 3 месяца назад +4

    I share your sentiments on needing to be creative and that shacks are an indecent way of living. I remember seeing on this platform, people congratulating someone for moving out of home into his own shack, saying things like “ we start somewhere, at least it’s something”, that was disheartening and showed the mentality of black people at large. We can have struggles, but those do present opportunities for creating something new to solve our own problems. I’m always looking to talk and work with people who would like to work o such projects. Good topic and channel.

  • @matshidisomarule5357
    @matshidisomarule5357 3 месяца назад +4

    We have a lot of new stands around the Northern side of Pretoria which are changed into beautiful Estates within three years due to the fact that people staying there are South Africans.
    The ones who stay in shacks are either illegal immigrants or people who moved from other places where they sold their RDP houses and expect the government to keep on building RDP houses while they keep on selling them giving a lousy excuse of unemployment.
    People in the rural areas fix the roads themselves, keep their areas clean and dig decent toilets..why can't the squatters do the same?

  • @WIGGER_AESTHETIC_031
    @WIGGER_AESTHETIC_031 3 месяца назад +9

    Actually a great Idea. One day when I have my engineering degree, I will try to do something about this. Only problem is that I'm a white man. I doubt I will get a tender. For this idea to work, full support from the regulatory bodies would be needed, and government too.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад +3

      Please do, it would help and perhaps make you some money. I can't help you on the government part. Sad, we all need to keep working on that one. It is taking us nowhere. Perhaps if you create something great. You could sell it in Kenya, Nigeria, Angola and so many more places - the first two will create knock-offs very quickly though, so be smart.
      Have a good day.

    • @WIGGER_AESTHETIC_031
      @WIGGER_AESTHETIC_031 3 месяца назад +4

      @@TheRepublicToday I'm still a long way off. But I've always been thinking of how to fix my country. I was wondering about railroads, but that's a problem that will only be fixed when we actually have a stable society and a police force that isn't overrun by immoral people keeping them too busy

    • @User40919
      @User40919 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@WIGGER_AESTHETIC_031 "Immoral people" I think that's what will be your biggest challenge. Even if you have the funds and degree to fulfil this project what's stopping extinctionists or thieves from stealing from you.
      Look at what happened in Cape Town, where RDP houses were being built. Gangs murdered one of the managers of the construction project.
      I am proud of you for thinking of your people. Don't let your skin colour stop you from helping others.
      I also don't mean to be pessimistic, but I'm just stating reality and the potential challenges you may face.
      I'm also currently starting a business to employ people, but it's going to operate online, because I'm trying to be safe. After that I plan on using the profits to fund other business ideas of mine. These businesses will teach skills and employ people.
      I wish you all the best on your plans may the Lord be with you, but please consider teaching skills as well instead of giving people free gifts, such as house or railways, because if something happens or they need to be maintained. You will be the one who's responsible for their fixing, no one else.
      Continue to think of your people. You may be white, but you are South African and you have black brothers and sisters. My mother always reminds me that, "Charity begins at home." This country is your home and your people need your help.
      Stay safe brother.

    • @adesign5
      @adesign5 3 месяца назад

      Don't wait for one day, let's start. Are you willing to become part of a group that gives their time for free to work towards this goal.

    • @adesign5
      @adesign5 3 месяца назад

      ​@User40919 bro, what you say is perfect. It is truth. He is putting a very wide net on a very large and different country. However, it is 100% possible. First we need to believe it possible, and then together, just a few people can make this a reality. I'm personally at that stage of my life where I am happy to give more and not be conpensated for it. Where I live is a small commmunity with probably about 5 bad apples. The community could be great, but are not. I could blame them for not sorting themselves out, or the governemnt, law, etc. But the real man question is, what can I do to change that. I do know. The only way to accomplish this is for a couple of minds to work together. So when can we meet?

  • @AapVanDieKaap
    @AapVanDieKaap 3 месяца назад +3

    I'm a 33 year old whitey. I used to think the main problem is lack of job opportunities, but over the years I've realized it's even harder to find black South Africans to employ. Personally I want to support our own people and I don't want to pay a cut to an agency or the government. I pay the ladies R450 a day for domestic work. But after many years of coming late for work and empty promises my wife won't let me do it any more. So now the people who work from me are all from Zimbabwe.
    And I've heard similar stories from many business owners. It's not everyone, but you stand such a high chance of having your time wasted. That's why people prefer to hire immigrants. But people must be under no illusions. It's not because people from those countries are better. It's because the people who come here are the motivated people who want to work hard and get somewhere in life. Otherwise they would still be sitting in Zim.
    I think a lot of people don't believe their lives can improve through grafting, so they are not motivated to work hard. And they are not completely wrong, this economy needs growth.

  • @matshidisomarule5357
    @matshidisomarule5357 3 месяца назад +4

    Limpopo and Mpumalanga also have shacks but they are organized and very neat, these people staying in dirty shacks expect the government to clean their toilets?
    The Northern Cape used to have the bucket system until Mr McKenzie came to their rescue but they kept their buckets neat.
    These people are lazy and filthy period

  • @chilly288
    @chilly288 3 месяца назад +7

    Insightful video and interesting ideas with the mobile homes. Could you maybe also do a video on how rdp houses are still being built far away from commercial centers and jobs similar to those of the apartheid era? Sure, current rdp houses are bigger, but they are being built further and further away from opportunities. Municipalities/metros often don't provide amenities like parks to residents, and landscaping is nonexistent, making the areas seem no different to the apartheid regime's. I have an idea for municipalities to hire local gardeners to plant and maintain trees along roads, grass, etc... But it would be interesting to hear your ideas and perspectives on this if it's something that interests you, of course.

  • @bukiwenobendle7080
    @bukiwenobendle7080 3 месяца назад +2

    Black SAns from the Villages do not have that luck to get FREE houses. We do everything our selves. We prefer a job than free everything from government.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад +1

      Perhaps you miss the point of the video my friend.
      Thank you for the comment anyway. Please listen to the video and consider your comment.

  • @louisaringani3333
    @louisaringani3333 3 месяца назад +5

    Most of this PEOPLE are FOREIGHNERS
    The issue of provincial migration. Some have house in the their PROVINCES. THEY sold RDPs.

    • @EstaJeanette-nk7fj
      @EstaJeanette-nk7fj 3 месяца назад +3

      How are they foreigners in their own country just because they are from a different province

    • @Lischlee
      @Lischlee 3 месяца назад

      Migraine for work in different provinces are not illegal immigrants from all over Africa some they refuse to return to their own countries.They are competing for work,water,housing and electricity as the ANC never created camps for migrants in S.A

  • @DrugHunter-fy6nf
    @DrugHunter-fy6nf 3 месяца назад +3

    Lets get this straight. The constitution does not guarantee free houses to all. It says people shall have access to housing. Which in itself is a hard commitment to keep. Especially when there are probably 20 million foreigners in the queue.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      Sure, that is why it is important to actually build a society/country. To do that, one of the things that needs to be done is having plans for how people live and settle.

  • @truth-Hurts375
    @truth-Hurts375 3 месяца назад +6

    A Home without any income mean nothing !!!!!

    • @anitabooks888
      @anitabooks888 3 месяца назад

      At least you will have a roof over your head and not homeless. You need a new mindset. You have not got a job. Look around find something to do to earn money. Cut wood, fire wood, poles, droppers. Always in demand. Find something to exchange for money.

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v 3 месяца назад

      Shame poes! A country with Africans and their communism is itself meaningless and destructive! When have whites ever go free housing, free land, free healthcare, social welfare and free education? Maybe people will give a shit about your “condition” If you could move past race and actually add value to society! You cannot even wipe your own arse, what about the whites who you keep demanding to uplift you but when we do you fucking break it and are back to square one! Best solution is for you to go back to Africa, black Americans are buying farms for $1500… stop wasting everyone’s time and go! The days of guilting whites is done, our parents fell for that. You either build in your own communities and pay taxes whilst you work or leave as societies cannot function off of free loaders

  • @StinkyTheSquid2
    @StinkyTheSquid2 3 месяца назад +6

    Sounds simple to grant people property rights, until you find out that the original person who was granted an RDP property sold it informally, and then it was re-sold 3 more times.
    You then grant the land to the original recipient, and chaos ensues. You don’t, and chaos ensues. Times 1 million.
    Maybe people will one day realise that nothin comes for free.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад +4

      Well, it's actually not that complicated really. If property was sold formally or otherwise you then reconcile it to the current owner. There are processes for doing this.
      Yo raise an interesting point that has some established fixes. I appreciate the comment.

  • @drea7295
    @drea7295 3 месяца назад +1

    I think generational wealth needs to be created ,and at times being grounded and not mobile might be the better option but you can only be ground if there is enough work where you live .

  • @pablosa1571
    @pablosa1571 3 месяца назад +2

    Another thing is that they dont have proper procedures when the government does give houses, they often give people who already have houses, just because they registered 15 years ago when they didnt have one, the government does not destroy the shacks of the people they give houses too, and often other siblings move to that house, and the cycle continues like that other thing is black people do not love themselves, they normalize living like this and be very proud that they have a property as if they made it in life, i know this because i live in khayelitsha and the new informal settlements around here is not because of homeless people, these people come from somewhere, and foreigners also saw there chances to own land too

  • @maxpyn8120
    @maxpyn8120 3 месяца назад +3

    The other problem they are also multiplying the wrong way. Girls get pregnant during a party obviously they can't give the child the attention he need to be successful in life because the father is a child too.

  • @farhaadrazack8183
    @farhaadrazack8183 2 месяца назад +1

    South Africans are renting the RDP houses n build shacks there more than 10 million

  • @designellementorganicartde2456
    @designellementorganicartde2456 3 месяца назад +1

    THE PROBLEM IS NOT ACCOMMODATION THE PROBLEM IS HIGH LEVELS OF POVERTY ANSD PEOPLE THAT ARE DEPENDANT AND THE INJUSTICE OF THE AFTER EFFECTS

    • @WillamShauke
      @WillamShauke 3 месяца назад

      The country will experience extreme weather more snow soon . Global warming is taking place people will freeze to to death in those shacks house

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      And the reason the sky is blue is not that it is reflecting the ocean... rather it is that the sky and the ocean both exist. I think you may be trying to spilt bone and morrow....futile and wrong approach.

  • @drea7295
    @drea7295 3 месяца назад +2

    It's a good idea to give people a title deeds but city's need to be planned by city planners so that life for residents in townships or suburbs can be enjoyable with enough open spaces for recreation ,sports, conservation areas and transportation services and places for employment.Most squatter areas are where they are because people moved to different places to work but was there was no housing .Where I live they started building in any park area, small overcrowded houses and people in houses now don't have open places to walk dogs picnic let children play in the park swings ect.I was looking at the prices of mobile homes they are very pricey for something decent that is set up to internet with insulation and electricity.the problem with rdp houses is there is not enough in the areas to support life not just the basics of shelter but things that make life enjoyable theaters,music places ,outdoor areas parks ponds ect.

  • @53ns3i
    @53ns3i 3 месяца назад +3

    Still, despite what good can be done for these people, they still dont have standards or the right mindset of work hard and build. Ive seen nice areas turn into townships in 3 years, neighbourhoods that are 40 years old or more.

    • @elloohno1349
      @elloohno1349 3 месяца назад

      where?

    • @53ns3i
      @53ns3i 3 месяца назад +3

      @@elloohno1349 In and around Joburg. Can only guess it can be beyond it too. Worked in private security for years, been around the block and seen plenty of shiet.

  • @adesign5
    @adesign5 3 месяца назад

    I havent listened to the entire thing. Skipped sections. But... i do agree we, the people need to start 'doing' actions towards this goals. Im happy yo give my time to help in this regard. I suggest we start a group that meet up at least ones per week to plan towards definitives actionable plan to work towards this goal. Id like to be in touch man.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for your comment and willingness to act. If you want to start something around this. That would be great. I am not joining anything at the moment.
      Regards

  • @drea7295
    @drea7295 3 месяца назад +1

    Interesting idea , some housing developments just don't get finished so this might be the way to go, but Even in Johannesburg there are just too many people living here not enough jobs or employment and alot of things are going online which is changing types of work so e shopping centers are not as used as before .many people are in Johannesburg from other places they live in squatter camps sadly commit crimes because they never found work smaller towns and rural areas need to be developed more as life becomes more noisy and dangerous congested when you don't control people's movement to a certain degree and everyone moves only to city centres .

    • @User40919
      @User40919 3 месяца назад

      Not being able to find a job doesn't mean you should commit crimes.

  • @drea7295
    @drea7295 3 месяца назад

    That office block was being used as housing , it went up in flames , buildings need to be built by architects as this building was a problem when it was full of families no one could get out in an emergency situation.

  • @anitabooks888
    @anitabooks888 3 месяца назад

    This guy is talking sense.

  • @WillamShauke
    @WillamShauke 3 месяца назад +1

    What about hijacked building s ?

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      Good question. Enforce the laws we already have harshly remember I also note amending settlement laws. Plus, clean those place out with force. While tapping the people kicked out into the system herein described.

  • @petruspotgieter4561
    @petruspotgieter4561 3 месяца назад +1

    Low density urban sprawl with full title deed is a luxury for high income hoseholds. Low income households in urban areas require medium to high density sectional title or rental units. The cost of service infrastructure like roads, water, sewer, electricity, and telecommunications is much higher for low density neighborhoods. Will low income residents be paying for the higher rates and taxes?
    In most of our towns & cities medium density 3 story flats with communal parks would suffice.
    Modular, factory made, maybe flatpack houses with proper materials could be an option in more rural low density neighborhoods. I would would not call these constructions mobile homes. "Mobile" would imply unnecessary undercarriage, wheels and width restrictions to be road worthy.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      I like this comment. relevant, insightful and knowledgeable - I appreciate that sort of thing.
      Great points. I do differ a little bit however insignificant difference for now. I will say the flats though I would want to stay away from or keep them to a minimum - for several reasons. Especially for black and coloured communities. In my considered view these sort of communities develop better in a different type of housing setup.
      Otherwise, I appreciate this comment. Thank you.

  • @User40919
    @User40919 3 месяца назад +1

    The idea of lonile homes sounds great, but what happens when repairs need to be made or the homes need to be repainted?
    I see this as a cultural issue more than anything else. If these people really cared about their living conditions they would think of innovative ways to create houses that look beautiful and are inexpensive. Look at the Ndebele traditional houses of the past. They were mud houses, but were pleasing on the eyes. Look at the mosque made of mud in Timbuktu.
    Too many of our black people are waiting for the government to save them from poverty. When the government is inactive, the people living in informal settlements become inactive. Everyone is waiting for a saviour to rescue them and provide them with a house, a job and everything else that life has to offer.
    I've seen working age men and wome lining up at taverns and I've heard of sp many stories where people get jobs, only to not pitch, because they were suffering from a hangover. Who's to blame in that case?
    We need to fix the root issue. Giving people free things won't make things better. They need to be taught; how to handle money, how to build infrastructure that will last, how to maintain that infrastructure, some sent to rehabs, learn that killing/robbing your neighbours isn't going to get you anywhere, how to be clean and understand that no one is voming to save them in life.
    Until there's a mindset shift, there will be no progress.

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      I appreciate this comment.
      I have covered many of the facts you bring up in other videos on the channel - like this one - ruclips.net/video/1Z6FpH-QwAY/видео.html .
      Some responses to points in the comment:
      Maintenance - The mobile communities are too be privately owned and run as mentioned in the video.
      Cultural - Exactly. That is why it takes society moving over time in the direction I am proposing because the invisible reason for this idea is not merely housing. It is a cultural indoctrination as to how to build and live as a society. Just like you mention issues like drinking, managing money etc. You can't just run a program and give people information for them to change a cultural disposition - I have seen it many times. It does not work. You have to shift society to even have a chance of making a dent. providing incentives and harsh consequences along the journey.
      The point - what is really happening in this idea in its full roll out. Is the rebuilding of the family structure, work ethic, how to run a home and community, taking care of things, consequences etc. In other words, trying to build a healthy society from a very broken, dysfunctional and incompetent people.
      Thank you for your insightful comment.

  • @desstanbridge8283
    @desstanbridge8283 3 месяца назад

    Use recycled materials to manufacture houses. Should be able to buy a package of a complete house.

  • @livelikesong
    @livelikesong 3 месяца назад

    Are you open to starting such a project?

  • @rixilemakhub1105
    @rixilemakhub1105 3 месяца назад +1

    Do you stay in a mobile house?

  • @elloohno1349
    @elloohno1349 3 месяца назад

    Mobile homes are for moving around ?

    • @desstanbridge8283
      @desstanbridge8283 3 месяца назад +1

      They are mobile in a sence that they are able to be jacked up and moved elsewhere.

  • @bpndlovu6610
    @bpndlovu6610 3 месяца назад +2

    Anc is stealing more than that

  • @GoforiGugu
    @GoforiGugu 3 месяца назад

    Bashaye!!!!

  • @bettyeland9810
    @bettyeland9810 3 месяца назад

    To add more to the problem no control 2 migration a lot of people there are illegal immigrants. We have leadership problem in S A..

  • @joshcharl5821
    @joshcharl5821 15 дней назад

    Quinton Adams❤

  • @XHansCoché
    @XHansCoché 3 месяца назад +3

    Only if they are citizens of SA. Many have houses in the home lands but come and work in the cities. The infrastructure alone will cost many billions. Squatting must be banned. A place like Cape Town is mostly squatters who don't have jobs and many thousands are not from the region. Coloured people are indigenous to the Cape, so they come first.

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr 3 месяца назад

      ANC took the masses from EC and sent them to WC. In the name off "better opportunities"

  • @SueLeo1
    @SueLeo1 3 месяца назад

    I agree that the land under RDP houses should be given to the people. It would allow for borrowing money for a e.g. financing a business.
    BUT, the majority would sell them, build another shack, live on the money and when it runs out what then? Back to a shack on a piece of land, often on a flood plane or by a river that washes them out regularly.
    Your idea of prefabricated buildings is excellent (in theory) Elon Musk designed such a building it takes 24 hours to erect it!)
    In practice they will not maintain these properties , take zero pride in a garden, not pay the rent for long, rent them out illegally and these places will turn into another slum.
    Your heart is in the right place Republic, but it is what it is.
    Until our borders are policed & strong, until illegal aliens are deported and the visa situation is changed (as you said in a previous video) nothing will change, because it cannot change.
    Kind Regards

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад +1

      I really like your comment Sue. All points you bring up are relevant and I have considered them as well. You are correct.
      Selling house - it has been prove the majority do not actually sell the house (FMF research and others). Those that do, of course some will. We count that as capitalism and they have to live with their decision.
      Build more shacks - this is were I mention amending the settlement laws(keeping people off areas that flood regularly and land they do not own etc.) and enforcing the laws that are on the books. If laws are enforced people will be pushed to rural areas, charities, making a plan to borrow and rent somewhere or prison - and everything in between. Which is a normal society and causes people to choose better by letting them live with their choices.
      Not taking pride - You are right that is why the mobile communities are to be privatised and run like any other development. If you are a bad tenant - you get kicked out. Hence, the amendment of laws. Plus, if they are private. Market competition can will make some communities be better run than others. Fueling competition by developers to make the properties better and find selling points/competitive edges.
      Of course you are right about the borders and so on.
      I could go on about this for a long time (there is much more to the idea) because I have thought about it a lot - perhaps too much.
      I appreciate your insightful comment.

    • @SueLeo1
      @SueLeo1 3 месяца назад

      @@TheRepublicToday
      Dear Republic, South Africa needs a President and politicians that think like you.
      Until that time, South Africa (indeed all of Africa) will break your heart as you survey the suffering of your people. Doing what we can is all we CAN do. Good luck with your projects we need to give the people their pride back!
      Keep doing these videos.. they are very important!
      Love & Light 😊

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      @@SueLeo1 Thank you.

  • @johnlamb3101
    @johnlamb3101 3 месяца назад +1

    HaHaHa - Mandela promised all his supporters homes,

    • @johnlamb3101
      @johnlamb3101 3 месяца назад +2

      Mandela promised All his supporters a life like the whites - 30 years later blacks are still living in shacks and 30 years time blacks will still be living in more shacks! Mandela is long gone and only filled his own pockets and lived in Houghton - couldn’t care about his shack dwellers! The ANC is a shadow of what Mandela envisioned with Pinnochio at the helm - dream on and on and on……life only gets worse every day! ANC will give you nothing! Vote for a white govt with a white at the helm is your only solution shack dwellers!

    • @johnlamb3101
      @johnlamb3101 3 месяца назад +1

      Mobile home - you go to work in the morning - return home after work - only to find your mobile home has been stolen!! Not there!! That’s life under an ANC regime with Pinnochio at the helm. Enjoy.

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr 3 месяца назад

      @@johnlamb3101 Mandela was a sell out yeah

    • @bukiwenobendle7080
      @bukiwenobendle7080 3 месяца назад

      Mandela passed away long ago, are they still waiting for him? ANC are the ones looting from the poor as they sell those RDP houses to foreigners. Vuka uzenzele, that's what Village black SAns do.

  • @Vdtuvxuruvru
    @Vdtuvxuruvru 3 месяца назад

    You solving nothing but creating more problems than ever before

  • @trumpet835
    @trumpet835 3 месяца назад

    Ngazo zonke iibhiliyoni zeerandi ezifunyenweyo ngenxa yokubanjwa ngurhulumente kunye nokumisa vsn isivumelwano se-mafia.Ndiyathemba ukuba ixesha le-cage liphelile .silindele izindlu ezifanelekileyo okanye i-skyscrapers

  • @Vdtuvxuruvru
    @Vdtuvxuruvru 3 месяца назад

    Dont talk like a passer-by, talk like a SA, the previou government and the current one never cared much about the citizens

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      Lol, is there a substantial point you are trying to make...?

  • @jane-j7n8t
    @jane-j7n8t 3 месяца назад

    from kenya why dont u just build nice flats since workers will always migrate,

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад +1

      We have lots. There are many problems with flats though. They are not a good way to build society. They tend to turn into "projects" like in thee USA.
      I don't favour them and I do not think they would be the best ways to build RSA society. In truth or any society in Africa.

    • @jane-j7n8t
      @jane-j7n8t 3 месяца назад

      from kenya i lived in capetown for a few years and visited places like Khayelitsha they build those shacks because of too many people, flats in kenya have solved that problem

    • @TheRepublicToday
      @TheRepublicToday  3 месяца назад

      @@jane-j7n8t In RSA, a more suitable solution would not be flats. We have lots of flats and "flat adjacent development" like cluster homes/complexes as I am sure you saw. The best solution to build RSA society is another form of development. I would not want us to become "flat" people.
      Developments are cultural and societal artifacts that influence the thinking and development of a people. Flats are not it. I would like to see the long-term result from the Kenyan flats too.
      However, for RSA they are not a good solution. I do not think long term they are a good solution for anywhere in Africa.
      The only flats I approve of a very High end ones for different reasons.

  • @Ntuthu-ZA
    @Ntuthu-ZA 3 месяца назад

    Nah!!!

  • @sshipalana7667
    @sshipalana7667 3 месяца назад +2

    What about introducing the section 8 housing system like in America?

    • @sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622
      @sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622 3 месяца назад

      The architecture is bad, it is not humane, and architecture has a much bigger effect on the head. So no.

    • @macavalli2619
      @macavalli2619 3 месяца назад

      @@sshipalana7667 housing projects didn't work out that great in America.... pls do research

    • @nydutch1609
      @nydutch1609 3 месяца назад

      ​@@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622? The architecture was no different than any other high rise. Nice apts, elevators, huge courtyards, trees.

    • @nydutch1609
      @nydutch1609 3 месяца назад

      ​@@macavalli2619The tenants destroyed them.