Ironmace just implemented a new 125-225 GS lobby in High Roller so this is a great time to get into HR if you have never played the game mode before. The Adventure Point values will remain the same in this lower bracketed lobby. Update: Gear AP has been reduced - they are now about half of that shown in the video. Main focus in terms of AP is still going to be sub-bosses, portals, and traveling down layers but do expect to receive a bit less AP from gear extraction now.
I feel like demigod is a chore. After im done with it, i get 5-6 to green rank just to get those gold bags in the beginning of the next season and i go do the most absurd builds i can come with to pvp and finally play the game. It feels like something heavy lifted of your shoulder after demigod, and i dont play anymore in the character that reached it lol. It should mean more.
I agree with you alex, it definitely feels less like playing a game and more so having to take care of a seasonal errand - I hope in the future the process to rank up becomes more enjoyable and exploration focused
why do you feel the need to get to demigod? rewards are usually ass anyways. i usually get to the blue or purple rank naturally and just keep playing. maybe its just me but i dont see the point in grinding for rewards that are low key pretty ass
In my opinion they should just create a season pass and/or incorporate the rewards with either the quests that are or make season pass objectives. Calling it a leader board or rank is not really fitting. It has nothing to do with ranking. Everyone can achieve it, its just a question of grinding. In competitive games with actual ranks, the ranks are on a normal curve. Im not wishing for them to do this. I think they should just detach the seasonal rewards from any "rank" and create a season pass. I also dont like that there is ingame rewards like bags or potions. Its just an edge tho whoever is willing to grind, but it doesn't accomplish anything. Everyone would be fine starting with nothing at the start of season/wipe. If they want to create some form of leader board for different achievements as before, they could. Just for a form of hall of fame, but for aby reward except maybe a medal or your name immortalised on a list.
what you said at the end about not losing adventure rank has been something ive said many times now. ap rank isnt a flex, its not a feat of skill, and if they made it that it was a feat of skill and locked rewards behind it, people would whine. so just get rid of the ap loss and just make it a reward for playing HR cuz nobody really likes the grind of it either.
I mean everything is life in a chore. Training for a marathon is a chore. But when you beat your PB or get in the top 100, 50 or 10 that chore makes it special. Same thing here. It is a flex, cause you put up with it and had the patience to do it. Others don’t cause they got better things to do, which is fine.
true. currently being a f2p is much better. its not worth to pay for the game just to be met up with a chore like that. if the ap loss removal is too much, then how about making it so you can't de-rank once you have earned a certain rank? i think that would be fair.
a tip for wraith, as long as you are about 2 or 3 stairs below or an equal height you can crouch and sit in front of him he wont hit you. The sit down and have your mate kill yeti thing has been in the game forever too, if you look at some of the movesets and their hitboxes there is so much stuff to cheese simply by a little elevation, you can bug mobs between alot of stuff not just gk with that lantern. Ice caverns have a lot of spots espacially in the boat rooms
i think you should unlock access to higher rarity gear as you rank up from say squire say you reach pathfinder you could get access to a set of specific items that are all green ik that's in someway how it works but tying it more to high roller and giving more access to gear through out your rank up might make it less of a slog though based on recent responses from the community i doubt most people would like this idea
Might be worth mentioning Instruments are worth a LOT more AP and vendor for more as well, ex. Epic Drum = 12 AP Epic Bucker = 3 AP. seasonal items i.e candy corn = 1ap x each and ores vary but like rubysilver ore = 3ap x each / 1st interaction with the node = 3ap. Getting the AP info off the website and in terms of the past instruments, theyve been like that just thought id mention since armor = treasure are basically equivellant this season
Also, you can fill your Utility Slots as you're getting ready to Extract with ideally high quality instruments or your largest utility items to get more space to fill up. i wouldnt do this until im ready and near the extract. if youre feeling frisky you can equip large weapons/primary secondary and carry your equipped one out in your inventory
Since you mentioned Spectral, did you notice his jump being changed? Because when I do it, he jumps on top of me even when I go to his previous position.
They secretly changed his move pattern. Don’t go to his previous position anymore, whenever he goes into the air, look at him immediately and try to predict and avoid his collapse point. It gets a couple of tries, but it is pretty easy. Just make sure not to use the previous way of dodging it, cause it doesn’t work anymore. Cheers
Damn, couldn’t you have released a bit earlier. I literally just finished grinding for demigod yesterday. Was so boring, this would have maybe helped a bit.
I wish there was a wizard vid like that, fighter seems like easy mode for pve and very solid in pve for the skill tax, also why there are always empty lobbies for these guides?
it seems treasure gives the same as the utilities and misc category according to the wiki so they are worth more than gear. At least according to the wiki that is
I don't think gear givea the same amount as it sells for anymore. Did you properly test it? Onepeg did some tests right after they changed it and it only gave like 1-5 per slot depending on rarity
I feel like they should somehow combine your rank with all classes so you don't feel stuck playing 1 class for so long. Same with quest system, why do we need to be able to duplicate the work and rewards?
I think I've watched this game more than I've played it by far. I just feel like I'm too trash to play high roller. Like I take forever just looking at the gear to pickup wondering if it's any good.
can you collect good gear over the different layers like ruins and forgotten castle and store it in expressmen and take out the highest quality before you teleport to hell to get most ap? If you kill a juicer and take his legendary stuff, does that count towards ap? or no
So like if you go down with an inventory and don't expressmen them and then expressmen them on the next down are you getting the AP or you gotta blue to get the AP?
is it worth trying to do the grind as a trio? I have 500+ hours but I just am not very good at HR mechanics so going alone isn't viable. i have hit my skill ceiling haha
Your ally will kill sub bosses and take your Ap. Same for portal. I would recommend you to push yourself and learn the mechanics. Don't undervalue yourself. I believe you can get a lot better. Just gotta go for it bro
If you replace the gear you've brought into the dungeon with looted stuff from the dungeon, does this bring you any AP? Since it doesn't exactly cover inventory slots the way loot in your inventory does.
I was able to get Demi by focusing on sub bosses and candy corn and single treasures. Extracted usually with 15-20 candy corn, got around 750-850 AP if anyone is scared to do bosses
When you go down, and it doesnt instantly bring you to the short trade window timing with expressmen/reduce to minimum timer time, it means someones still on the previous layer If it does it means you were the last one, or potentially alone
The people complaining earlier in the season about new AP gaining methods were so delusional. It's even easier to rank up than ever. Less AP cost to enter and less AP between ranks too. I'm at Exemplar I and need only 3-4 extracts to hit Demigod. You can rank up with below a 40% survival rate too which is insane.
@@edgardsimon983 I just hit demigod tonight with 37 extractions and 18 deaths, so 67% survival rate. However, it's pretty easy to tell that you don't need to live much. You only lose 100 AP when you die at Exemplar I and gain at least 700 for average extractions. I usually run frost mountain because most of my fights are a nice 1v1 instead of 4th and 5th party'd like in Ruins aka Dogshit.
@@edgardsimon983 Dang that's hardcore. I don't think I could pull off a record like that at my current experience. Glad demigod was so easy for me lol.
Your values seem very wrong for the gear based ap. I just extracted with a unique viking sword, a legendary magic staff, and legendary lightfoot boots, all in my inventory, not in the expressman. Those alone should count up to about 240 ap (assuming the magic staff is worth half due to it being a 2 handed). Yet my item achieve was only 196, despite also having many other epic items also in my inventory. Something is seriously wrong in the information presented in this video.
Not me grinding AP on multiple characters, always leaving gear at expressman between floors to min-max rare and higher treasure... FUCK I thought treasures are AP, gear with good roll for income haha..
@@Isaax The last change IM made to ap that they have announced on the discord was on 10/11 in hotfix 67, so either it was that or they shadow changed it without telling us recently. Otherwise it means this video was made way before then or was using outdated information
Anymore life is a chore and it suck. Plus there are too many games that roll out now that give the same small amount of dopamine this game gives. I’ve played since beta 2 and still mid at best. I do okay with PvP but the people I play with play less than I do. I also don’t have the mental fortitude to try and deal with humans outside of work most days due to what I do. I love this game and don’t really want it to be easier aside from allowing the rogue to actually be what it is while being good at it, but would really appreciate more than the basic quests that are often more difficult at the start of the quest chain than the end and would like to something new. Playing the same base maps with the slow style combat just feels bare bones and nothing more than a faster version of dungeonborne (still a shit copy of dad) no matter how you cut it. Having an interactive fighting mech like the one in CHIV 2 would be nice to see, have a true sbmm and see procedurally generated maps sooner than later would be amazing.
i think they just need to release a season pass and delete all rewards from ranking and make normal drops shit af and let everyone can play hr. and you only get points from hr by killing ppls.
Game is not going anywhere in terms of success, successful PvP games have SBMM cause no one likes to play against people who dont have a life and play one game 15 hours a day. Also the only ones who would hit Pathfinder this fast are people with 2k+ hours that have enough skill to be considered in 20% top players. Over 80% people will struggle to get to Pathfinder after 30-40 hours of trying.
Mainly because no-one new plays anymore. Game is so dead new player count wise because it's literally impossible for a new player to enjoyably be onboarded.
Why do people want to grind AP rather than just play the game and enjoy it. Don’t pretend like you enjoy using someone else’s strategy to cheese some silly little point system
Ironmace just implemented a new 125-225 GS lobby in High Roller so this is a great time to get into HR if you have never played the game mode before. The Adventure Point values will remain the same in this lower bracketed lobby.
Update: Gear AP has been reduced - they are now about half of that shown in the video. Main focus in terms of AP is still going to be sub-bosses, portals, and traveling down layers but do expect to receive a bit less AP from gear extraction now.
i assume you mean 225-325? the minimum for entry is still 225
edit: nope im dumb they lowered it. good idea IM. ty 4 info papa ryan
@@jamescarriere4930haha stupid
does it mean that it's better to loot valuables over gear now in terms of AP?
since gear ap was reduced by half, does that mean gear and treasure are the same ap per slot?
But is treasure better or worse / slot?
We love you Ryan. Keep bestowing your knowledge on the community.
i love coming back from work to do my second job the ap grind :3
I feel like demigod is a chore. After im done with it, i get 5-6 to green rank just to get those gold bags in the beginning of the next season and i go do the most absurd builds i can come with to pvp and finally play the game. It feels like something heavy lifted of your shoulder after demigod, and i dont play anymore in the character that reached it lol. It should mean more.
I agree with you alex, it definitely feels less like playing a game and more so having to take care of a seasonal errand - I hope in the future the process to rank up becomes more enjoyable and exploration focused
@@ryan6daysaweek I would love if it was exploration focused. The current system for achieving AP is very much a laborious exercise.
why do you feel the need to get to demigod? rewards are usually ass anyways. i usually get to the blue or purple rank naturally and just keep playing. maybe its just me but i dont see the point in grinding for rewards that are low key pretty ass
In my opinion they should just create a season pass and/or incorporate the rewards with either the quests that are or make season pass objectives. Calling it a leader board or rank is not really fitting. It has nothing to do with ranking. Everyone can achieve it, its just a question of grinding. In competitive games with actual ranks, the ranks are on a normal curve. Im not wishing for them to do this. I think they should just detach the seasonal rewards from any "rank" and create a season pass. I also dont like that there is ingame rewards like bags or potions. Its just an edge tho whoever is willing to grind, but it doesn't accomplish anything. Everyone would be fine starting with nothing at the start of season/wipe.
If they want to create some form of leader board for different achievements as before, they could. Just for a form of hall of fame, but for aby reward except maybe a medal or your name immortalised on a list.
that's exactly how i feel
Great video as always Ryan!
Thank u, mate! All time you deal good videos
25:00 Darry on top of Wizards. Good guide
awesome video!!! thanks a lot Rayan!
what you said at the end about not losing adventure rank has been something ive said many times now. ap rank isnt a flex, its not a feat of skill, and if they made it that it was a feat of skill and locked rewards behind it, people would whine. so just get rid of the ap loss and just make it a reward for playing HR cuz nobody really likes the grind of it either.
I mean everything is life in a chore. Training for a marathon is a chore. But when you beat your PB or get in the top 100, 50 or 10 that chore makes it special. Same thing here. It is a flex, cause you put up with it and had the patience to do it. Others don’t cause they got better things to do, which is fine.
true. currently being a f2p is much better. its not worth to pay for the game just to be met up with a chore like that. if the ap loss removal is too much, then how about making it so you can't de-rank once you have earned a certain rank? i think that would be fair.
How about you loose only half of what you have earned? It's frustrating to get killed in lvl 3 by a land mine rouge or kiting class.
Interesting that they make AP sourced primarily from PvE, yet loom a ban hammer over the heads of any player who dare not kill on sight...
a tip for wraith, as long as you are about 2 or 3 stairs below or an equal height you can crouch and sit in front of him he wont hit you. The sit down and have your mate kill yeti thing has been in the game forever too, if you look at some of the movesets and their hitboxes there is so much stuff to cheese simply by a little elevation, you can bug mobs between alot of stuff not just gk with that lantern. Ice caverns have a lot of spots espacially in the boat rooms
The ghost king fight made me cry
Sweet video, useful info! If you don’t mind me asking what programs do you use to insert text and graphics over your gameplay? It looks great.
10:59 south central represent! 🙌🏿🙌🏿
i think you should unlock access to higher rarity gear as you rank up from say squire say you reach pathfinder you could get access to a set of specific items that are all green ik that's in someway how it works but tying it more to high roller and giving more access to gear through out your rank up might make it less of a slog though based on recent responses from the community i doubt most people would like this idea
Haven't played the game in a few months just hopped on and Ranger seems so op.
ty for the food
yo Robynne! ty for checking out the video!
oh yeah, i'm gonna get 8 demigod cosmetics with this one
8 sets of giant toe potion skins
can't you give your items to the expressman when going down from ruins and then take them back when going from crypts to inferno?
yeah! this is definitely the best thing to do now since they implemented the 10 second grace period for the expressman
Might be worth mentioning Instruments are worth a LOT more AP and vendor for more as well, ex. Epic Drum = 12 AP Epic Bucker = 3 AP. seasonal items i.e candy corn = 1ap x each and ores vary but like rubysilver ore = 3ap x each / 1st interaction with the node = 3ap. Getting the AP info off the website and in terms of the past instruments, theyve been like that just thought id mention since armor = treasure are basically equivellant this season
Also, you can fill your Utility Slots as you're getting ready to Extract with ideally high quality instruments or your largest utility items to get more space to fill up. i wouldnt do this until im ready and near the extract. if youre feeling frisky you can equip large weapons/primary secondary and carry your equipped one out in your inventory
just casually wraps up the round with a skull key
Since you mentioned Spectral, did you notice his jump being changed? Because when I do it, he jumps on top of me even when I go to his previous position.
They secretly changed his move pattern. Don’t go to his previous position anymore, whenever he goes into the air, look at him immediately and try to predict and avoid his collapse point. It gets a couple of tries, but it is pretty easy. Just make sure not to use the previous way of dodging it, cause it doesn’t work anymore. Cheers
@markfedorov1401 He's so fast though, it's going to be time pressing to dodge his move.
I feel like your information is wrong.
Blue item gives 2 ap per slot (not 6). Tested that on trios
So is split in trios
@@saiko1271 i dont think item achieve is split, its per player
Yeah the info is way wrong
How do you do the parry on the berserker? You should make a longsword guide one day. It'd go nuts.
Do looted weapons/armors equipped on me count for AP?
yeah! if there are any upgrades you make in the dungeon then you should definitely put them on for the inventory space
Just a week ago I grinded demi so slowly with barb and now you upload?? 😡😡 Glad to see upload tho
Damn, couldn’t you have released a bit earlier. I literally just finished grinding for demigod yesterday. Was so boring, this would have maybe helped a bit.
hi, would you ever release a longsword parry guide for bosses/pve?
I wanna beat up the elites like that too >:)
I wish there was a wizard vid like that, fighter seems like easy mode for pve and very solid in pve for the skill tax, also why there are always empty lobbies for these guides?
With gear AP on the wiki it seemed like most weapons were giving much lower AP rewards per slot than armor.
The two takeaway for me are holy shit portal ap, and holy shit the gk chase spot
it seems treasure gives the same as the utilities and misc category according to the wiki so they are worth more than gear. At least according to the wiki that is
Another question, I'm curious what is your longsword build gear and stat priority are.
I don't think gear givea the same amount as it sells for anymore. Did you properly test it? Onepeg did some tests right after they changed it and it only gave like 1-5 per slot depending on rarity
I feel like they should somehow combine your rank with all classes so you don't feel stuck playing 1 class for so long. Same with quest system, why do we need to be able to duplicate the work and rewards?
13:43 Did you get the SW lion chest too?
I think I've watched this game more than I've played it by far. I just feel like I'm too trash to play high roller. Like I take forever just looking at the gear to pickup wondering if it's any good.
Yooo lets gooooooo
13:41 chest was locked so you ignored it, but you had lockpicks in your inventory.
can you collect good gear over the different layers like ruins and forgotten castle and store it in expressmen and take out the highest quality before you teleport to hell to get most ap? If you kill a juicer and take his legendary stuff, does that count towards ap? or no
When playing duos or trios is ap only given to the player who opens the chests/last hits the sub bosses or is it shared amongst the team??
Is there a reason you didn’t loot the legendary gear the warlock was wearing like the long sword for ap?
You do not get AP for gear that has been brought into the game, even if by another player, it must have the looted status
How could I get ap? Choice high roller style or normal?
Adventure Points are exclusive to High Roller mode
So like if you go down with an inventory and don't expressmen them and then expressmen them on the next down are you getting the AP or you gotta blue to get the AP?
At 12 minutes im pretty sure there was a muffin on the table 💀
Really ? I thought that portal AP is only given once for portal interaction?
Is that a recent change ?
Is pathfinder and above its own queue? Was it ever its own queue? I feel like it was, but idk.
you so damn tuff
what is the easyst character for solos and do this way that you guide
Nice vid, ap per gear slot is completely wrong tho, it's worth like a 3rd of what you've shown
is it worth trying to do the grind as a trio? I have 500+ hours but I just am not very good at HR mechanics so going alone isn't viable. i have hit my skill ceiling haha
Your ally will kill sub bosses and take your Ap. Same for portal. I would recommend you to push yourself and learn the mechanics. Don't undervalue yourself. I believe you can get a lot better. Just gotta go for it bro
why we get rid of cheese spots
If you replace the gear you've brought into the dungeon with looted stuff from the dungeon, does this bring you any AP? Since it doesn't exactly cover inventory slots the way loot in your inventory does.
It always has so yes I presume so? And with the 125-224 GS bracket it should be much easier just bringing in a good weapon and then swapping out gear
You think I can make this with Smite + Divine protection Cleric?
Do you gain ap if you open a chest with unchained harmony?
Cam someone explain how the fees work? I noted his was like 225. Is it named om how many points you get?
I was able to get Demi by focusing on sub bosses and candy corn and single treasures. Extracted usually with 15-20 candy corn, got around 750-850 AP if anyone is scared to do bosses
Also to note the candy corn can be separated from stacks to count for more AP
@@Frostyosti i thought that was patched last wipe when it was a big exploit for ap
Candy corn gives like no AP now. sad Ironmace is nerfing down all the treasure AP in hopes it makes it more challenging or some bs
@@lavi1084was working for me. I did a before and after run and confirmed.
You are thinking about the skull thingys from last wipe. The candy corns are not sellables aka treasure. That’s why they don’t count at all.
first one for a great vid
thanks Jerrockz!
If I open a golden chest does the ap count for my teamates?
damnit Ryan. Now all the peeps are gonna be invading your Inferno spawn. Haha jk nice vid
how does duos an trios ap work?
Last wipe i got 2 Demigods and the other 6 classes were Exemplar
This wipe i got 1 Demigod on my main and stopped
when is it gonna reset? do i still have time to start?
How much AP does candy corn give?
Thats crazy, i still cba to play 💤 😴
if I destroy a chest for a barbarian, do they give me points for it?
yes, crush works to give 1AP per chest smashed. really useful if you're just passing by one.
Wait how you tell if someone comes down with you?
When you go down, and it doesnt instantly bring you to the short trade window timing with expressmen/reduce to minimum timer time, it means someones still on the previous layer
If it does it means you were the last one, or potentially alone
The people complaining earlier in the season about new AP gaining methods were so delusional. It's even easier to rank up than ever. Less AP cost to enter and less AP between ranks too. I'm at Exemplar I and need only 3-4 extracts to hit Demigod. You can rank up with below a 40% survival rate too which is insane.
u are brave af if u rank up demi god with a 40 survival rate lmao i mean this season is definetely better for that
@@edgardsimon983 I just hit demigod tonight with 37 extractions and 18 deaths, so 67% survival rate. However, it's pretty easy to tell that you don't need to live much. You only lose 100 AP when you die at Exemplar I and gain at least 700 for average extractions. I usually run frost mountain because most of my fights are a nice 1v1 instead of 4th and 5th party'd like in Ruins aka Dogshit.
@@NukeOverlord the season before i did wizard solo demi god with 10 death for 100 game -_-
@@edgardsimon983 Dang that's hardcore. I don't think I could pull off a record like that at my current experience. Glad demigod was so easy for me lol.
The MUFFIN Easter Egg @12:35. Did u miss it? *>
Legend for using the footage tho. 1/1000 right?
Your values seem very wrong for the gear based ap. I just extracted with a unique viking sword, a legendary magic staff, and legendary lightfoot boots, all in my inventory, not in the expressman. Those alone should count up to about 240 ap (assuming the magic staff is worth half due to it being a 2 handed). Yet my item achieve was only 196, despite also having many other epic items also in my inventory. Something is seriously wrong in the information presented in this video.
Not me grinding AP on multiple characters, always leaving gear at expressman between floors to min-max rare and higher treasure... FUCK
I thought treasures are AP, gear with good roll for income haha..
Gear is now half the ap value of treasure of the same rarity right now. Do not farm gear for ap.
When was this changed?
@@Isaax The last change IM made to ap that they have announced on the discord was on 10/11 in hotfix 67, so either it was that or they shadow changed it without telling us recently. Otherwise it means this video was made way before then or was using outdated information
Anymore life is a chore and it suck. Plus there are too many games that roll out now that give the same small amount of dopamine this game gives.
I’ve played since beta 2 and still mid at best. I do okay with PvP but the people I play with play less than I do.
I also don’t have the mental fortitude to try and deal with humans outside of work most days due to what I do.
I love this game and don’t really want it to be easier aside from allowing the rogue to actually be what it is while being good at it, but would really appreciate more than the basic quests that are often more difficult at the start of the quest chain than the end and would like to something new. Playing the same base maps with the slow style combat just feels bare bones and nothing more than a faster version of dungeonborne (still a shit copy of dad) no matter how you cut it.
Having an interactive fighting mech like the one in CHIV 2 would be nice to see, have a true sbmm and see procedurally generated maps sooner than later would be amazing.
Maybe next season
yes yes yes deva please listen -DONT LOSE RANKS IN HR PLEASEEE
What servers do you use?
pvp ap is guud
AP is fucked this season.
casual ahh skull key
we are ALL worried about this game, especially now.. sdf needs to go! More content less moving numbers around!
Tragic that treasure is so uselss. Gearis fine but treasure is fun to loot and should be not only good for ap but worth money as well.
i think they just need to release a season pass and delete all rewards from ranking and make normal drops shit af and let everyone can play hr. and you only get points from hr by killing ppls.
Game is not going anywhere in terms of success, successful PvP games have SBMM cause no one likes to play against people who dont have a life and play one game 15 hours a day. Also the only ones who would hit Pathfinder this fast are people with 2k+ hours that have enough skill to be considered in 20% top players. Over 80% people will struggle to get to Pathfinder after 30-40 hours of trying.
Mainly because no-one new plays anymore. Game is so dead new player count wise because it's literally impossible for a new player to enjoyably be onboarded.
Why do people want to grind AP rather than just play the game and enjoy it. Don’t pretend like you enjoy using someone else’s strategy to cheese some silly little point system
Angry much
idk why anyone would want any kind of rank ever since it was implemented, the game is ass and has been for the past 2 seasons