4.1.2 Venice Sholine Crips' Allies & Rivals
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- In Part Two of the Venice Sho-Line Crips series, Cisco and Bird recall the Rollin' 60s as their main rivalry, predating the beef with the Playboy Gangster Crips 3x, stemming from incidents at World on Wheels over the School Yard Crips, and the Civic Auditorium in Santa Monica most known for hosting the 38th Academy Awards ceremony, hosted by Bob Hope. It was the first Academy Awards to be broadcast live in color.
Kay Kay also joins Cisco, and Bird, to talk answer questions about the Marvista Gardens Housing Projects in Culver City. Many of the black residents in Marvista Gardens had some sort of ties to the Historic Oakwood Park community and the Venice Shoreline Crips Founded in 1972 in the bleachers where we filmed this video.
In 1982 the projects was 49% Mexican, 30% Black, 14% White, 7% Oriental, Samoan, Alaskan, and Pacific Islanders.
Part One: • 4.1.1 Venice Sholine C...
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Interview by
Baby S Mac
Kev Mac
Research by Baby S Mac
Pictures supplied by Baby S Mac and Google
Filmed by: Kev Mac, Baby S Mac
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Directed by Kev Mac
Already knowing Cisco and having personally talked about this interview with the Sholines for years, Melly Mel was able to finally set up confirmation.
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Music: Going Back to Cali by Digital West
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Baby S Mac
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Kk is absolutely wrong there was a Culver City Piru in the projects
Damn for real? Never heard of that. Tell me about them. What years? Who planted the Piru? What happened to them?
@@KevMacVideos Yeah, let's hear their story.
Waz up yogie
No it wasn't no culver city Piru in the culver projects bro... Don't do that.. whoever told you that.. Don't believe them.
Culver City Piru? 🤣😂 No such thing!♿️
This interview has all the ingredients of a classic Kev Mac Video... The visuals, the history, the unique characters...great start for season 4...
You can tell they love og up top with the beer they not even fazed by him interrupting them 🤣
Ong🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol
I was thinking the same shit. But he been there before Crippin was in Venice
That’s our Big Homie! OG Bird
they know he on a 8ball trip. its all good
Og up top drinking the OE is funny as hell. I started busting up laughing last night when he said “I was one of them” talkin about he didn’t like that 1 dude.
Bro I fell out! 😂
Lol! OG Bird! Genuine cat right there, give you the shirt off his back!
Love the old gs
He is freaking hilarious. One OG is like Chuck D from Public Enemy and OG drinking OE is like Flavor Flav. Lol. He is drunk as a skunk. Lol
He almost up there with that other OG dude that was talking about rocc head when they was interviewing in they back yard, cant remember the name.
Like how he respecting what his homie up top have to say even though he obviously drunk and a little bit belligerent. Mutual respect is a beautiful thing.💯✊🏾
We all have/had a homeboy like the one on the top bleacher. Some homies dismiss them but they always bring something to the table. EVERYBODY DOES.
Much love, Kev Mac. Good to see my favorite channel up and running again.
Amor y Respetos from Chuco Town, Tejas Valle Bajo 915
El Paso💪🏾
OGs are right to not discuss the Beefs even though we want to hear it but its all about keeping peace and not hyping things up to look hard or Gangsta
@@loyaltoj567 that was a fictional movie.
@@joemosely9383 tf u talking about ain't no movie bruh my uncle's and childhood friends from Culver City and Venice know the history
@@loyaltoj567 No skins functioned or ran shit in Venice ever...
No Skinheads have ever had an open racist presence in Venice.
Back in the 1980s, Venice had Venice Suicidal Tendencies (ST) Punk Rockers that dressed like V13s, Venice Whiteboy Locals that Surfed & Skateboard and the Down Town Skateboard crew on the Venice/Santa Monica boarder. All boardwalk Area activities....not in Oakwood/Ghost Town.
Never no Nazi Style Racist Skin Heads you saw in the Movie American History X.
@@loyaltoj567 the Whites moving into Venice are not the skinhead types.
The whites moving into Venice are Millionaire Liberal Hipsters that don't mind living around Minorities & homeless....they are Progressive Whites.....Obama Voters.....Silicon Beach Technocrats.....
You watch too many fictional movies.
@@joemosely9383 I know ST they became a click out of SOS in Long Beach now called Suis Aka Suicidal Town with bunch of Cambodians and Islander's in it part of the SEA gang Suis EFCC and ABZ ..there were skin heads..and the hipster's etc u talk of being around minorities? Bruh Venice is literally all white now ..black is the minority there now. U can do all the Google searches u want but facts are facts
Love the part when he said the Culver City 13 broke and ran with the Shorelines to get away from the cops and they didn't rat pacc em. Honor amongst criminals. 💯 respect!!!
It’s Cool how cisco know exactly what bird is saying 😂 😂
That’s crazy you know that’s his homeboy
Because I can’t understand nothing he’s Saying
Lol
That's his homie he pose two
@@boywonder8114 listen slow my nigga
I can too u gotta listen and stop worrying bout not hearing
Like the fact he didn't shut down homie at the top of the bleachers. Gotta maintain respect.
I peeped tht too. I cnt say I would’ve done the same woe
I peeped tht too. I cnt say I would’ve done the same woe
Facts.. its a even a time or 2 he seemed a lil irritated but maintained his composure 💯💯
Prolly cuz thats his day 1 or or his G homie..
OG ole english set in and he took off LOL
KK was not sharing his drank with Bird 😆. He didn’t want to pass the blunt 😆
Nobody... OG at the top: “Them my ComRAdeS!” 😂🙏🏾💙
Og sounds like he got a mouth full of mashed potatoes
😆
Not tryna start nothin homie but respect his insights..just like the other comments say you gotta listen what the OG is sayin at least 1 time. 💯
@@grimeyDunkmaN nah I’m just joking homie it’s all good
Thats crazy he interviewing the VSLC’s. My pops from VSLC.
Mine too♿️♿️
Kev we need another 1 from kk very interesting hearing about the projects and the wars.. thanks for the great content
great video! allies and rivals should be a common segment for future interviews
What a Great Easter Sunday .....First The Verzus With Earth 🌎 Wind and Fire 🔥 and Isley Brothers. Now Kev Mac Videos with The Sho-Lines .
KK telling the truth!! The kings had the gym on lock 🔐....shout out to Big Freddie and Mr.Price!! I lived in the gym, played all sports there.....best times of my childhood....and the grape 🍇 streets were in there also.....I moved in the PJ's in 84 and sholines were getting deep....S-Man in the old school, Smurf in old School(just to name a few)....as a kid I used to get dropped off at the gym by the sholines with the hardest old schools, cutlass, omegas, 5.0....it got so bad in there they turned a couple of buildings into police offices/come tell buildings lol.....bought my first suede Nike Cortez at the warehouse shoe store right next to Marina Del Ray Middle School..damm those was the days......if you know than you know....blessings and well wishes to everyone who grow up in the PJ's during those times....
Good one! Respect to Venice. Hit my 1st joint with a ShoLine @ 13- 1993. Rolled my 1st joint on 17th and Vineyard / SYC -1995.
Great interview Kev...I’m black that grew up in Culver City with those Eses in the early 90s... it’s cool seeing the Sho Lines perspective of the Culver City & Venice war, one thing for sure growing up with them Eses, back then although we was black they wasn’t on no racist shit they was cool as hell as long as you wasn’t from Venice 😂 Culver City Boys hated these dudes.💯
I heard they firebombed African American cars in the projects during the war.
Going to Culver high during that time they fosho hated Veince and constantly heard about Sman but wasn't tripping on blacks and had 2 guys that were black Rip to Kote and Scrappy. We used to go to the marina del rey arcade and VSLC used to come up there Deep and fight with the 60s etc
@@FREEEGANG You right about this!💯
@Gary Corbin wat up cuzz.. ain't seen u N awhile.. evil1st frm 1st NHECBC
Used to see my cousin and his Culver City 13 homies all in red and met white guys saying these skinheads in Venice giving them VSLC the blues..crazy to hear
This is a fire ass educational interview!!...I hope it's at least 4 to 5 parts...
Need that Culver City outlook now. Good shit as always Kev 🤝🤝🤝
I don't know why people insist on asking for the impossible.. the Homie already mentioned that Esses are banned from talking on record. Just like some Bloods are.
@@uncclelocc nah not so much...all them Eses be talking on platforms all the time
@@UceMacntosh The thing is, most likely from the information I came across, those individuals debriefed.
@@UceMacntosh not true ...actives do not.. you mist be talking about all those prison channels run by drop outs
Really good to hear smac bac
When I visited LA, I found it weird how LA, Santa Monica, Culver City, Venice and Hollywood are considered their own cities when they're literally right next to each other. It all feels like one city if you don't live there.
I've lived in LA my whole life so I get what you mean. Venice and Santa Monica specifically are right up the street from each other. Culver City is connected to both Santa Monica and Venice but Hollywood is way too big a city as is to be combined with those three
@@vizionaryentertainment8464 I stayed in Hollywood when I was out there. Everything just felt like sections of LA and not their own city because there aren't any obvious borders or tolls or anything that let's you know that you're somewhere else. LA county is the only place I know that got cities next to each other like that.
@@swanm3ta850 Hollywood is a county in itself. Theres North Hollywood which is huge then West Hollywood which is also huge. LA County has about 88 cities in total. A place like Hollywood is split into neighborhoods that operate as there own cities. All the cities are next to each other there are no open spaces between cities everything is congested and crowded lol.
@@swanm3ta850 Hollywood & Venice are Communities in L.A City.
Culver City & Santa Monica are independent Incorporated Cities in L.A County.
@@swanm3ta850. What are you talking about LA is the only place with cities next to each other like that ? Are cities supposed to be separated by empty land ? Cities and towns go next to each other that’s how that works everywhere not just LA so I’m going to guess you haven’t traveled much at all. Phoenix for example is a city of almost 2 million people but Phoenix is part of what the call “the valley” so the valley consists of Phoenix,Tempe,Scottsdale,Glendale etc etc the cities that make up the valley have over 4million combined resistance
There were actually quite a few blacks as well as Samoans that lived in the Mar Vista gardens housing projects. This was in the mid 1950's on into the 1970's
Man that’s crazy history.
1of the best I n a long time. With the details he gave
Congrats on the 100k subscribers I jus noticed that
Man I know I’m late on this series but this series hit deep for me. My uncle Chip Dogg was from VSLC but moved to Montclair and came up with my pops on Pradera Blocc. They showed my folks nun but love on 6th Ave when all my OG’s would hit the beach💪🏾 CIP Uncle Chip Dogg and 9 love to the Sho’ Lines💯
Stole meat from cardenas, and ran up padera all day
Use too steal meat nd run up padera
I remember when my aunt stayed in that project bust out all her windows on the lower level because they thought my cousin was from Venice just because he went to Venice high and that happened in 96 or 97 never knew the Venice cats had a section in the projects now I know why certain shit went down with the blacks
Wow..... one of the most interesting rip sets. You take VSLC as a myth growing up in South Central till Sunday you go to the beach and it's a 1000 of the ni@&a's on the boardwalk. KEV MAC covered ground on this one.... what's next 54 VNG. Since your pulling off miracles on the LORDS DAY....
There’s plenty of VNG’s.
What’s deepest brim hood
I remember seing them deep on the boardwalk around the mid 90s
@@tmclifestyle4238 Deepest Brim hood is the Black Stone Jungles ☝️
@@ahatzpayback2864 bps is not brims my guy
OG up at the top of the bleachers ain’t goin for that one at a time shit Kev 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Damn, not the 60's.
Bet Kev wasn’t expecting that one 😂
@@himoverthere6716 That shit hurt my feelings too. LMAOOOO
Lol ain’t it always?
I heard stories from my Og hommies about fighting with them back in the day fasho SIP JOEKER1 lil kev mac told me some shit too
@@OVAHILL_TH60D.da1st man s/o one time to deane Ave and that gas station on the corner . I love that area 4L
I cee u Kev. On H90D we ridin wit you💙💙
OG BIRD DONT HOLD SHIT BACK 😂😂😂
As always i enjoyed the vid Detroit boys got mad love for you and your content will be glad when things get back to normal so we can link
KK made this segment historical !
One of those rare individuals that are gifted at telling stories, laying out the history, and telling it like it is all at the same time. Those project stories had me visualizing the setting and feeling the climate for real!
🤞🏿💯
All truth too!💯
Dam I thought that kk it's been a long time
Bro Kev.real shit dem red rags been there since those projects been up.Harlem’s had big dope stop by the dead end late 80’s
Basically the sholines in the projects were outnumbered and the other sholines didn’t help them.
No your wrong they came to the hood an got the help they needed when it got to big for them to handle
So the shorelines not one big gang? They have different cliques?
@@balls_down_ya_throat456 the Oakwood area in Venice is ground zero for VSLC, the projects were a secondary hang out for some of the VSLC’s that lived in there.
@@balls_down_ya_throat456 We have/had 3 sides. Venice,Projects,and SF Valley.
Look, there's only one vslc hood. Some homies just moved to sf Valley cxc project, even Bakersfield, but home was home. They knew when to come home
These are great interviews, real people from southern California
Yes sir!! Pt dos already! Kev Mac def sliddin this season
Classic interview and great history KMV ✊🏾
I love hearing are old gs they have more love and unity with their crippin this new generation of niggas trying to crip have no loyalty
Classic ending as usual lol 60's was everywhere lol
Yes they were, they even spread the mid West the South the East coast (I'm talking I-95)
@@uncclelocc 💯
60s deep in STL
Kev & S-Mac was shocked when he said the 60s was their first beef😂😂😂
Damn right.... we was! 😀
@@KevMacVideos 😆
@Ahead Of The Curve DuRoc, Pomona 357, Altadena... Crazy huh
Most hated gang by far... especially 80s/90s.
@@OldeSoul did Pomona 357 claim NH doe? Cuz one I the ones I came across said they NH now
Title should’ve said ‘Rivals, Allies, and Tings of That Nature’
Around the same time 1st ECC and Aliso had the same issue.
All major issues with Eses in the streets IMO happened around the early 90s with that push.
Kev we need to know when the SXL and Hoovers kicked off.
Og up top I fucks with and he rocking the OGs Jordan 1s
Very interesting interview 💯 every hood has a HISTORY
Cuhh had me dead at 10 Culver City came down the hall had Bats & Gats🤣🤣🤣🤣☠☠
Being black in southern California is very hard once u go down south Midwest or east coast life is a breeze life out west for black people is hard period bit we survive and thrive
Real talk
@California2pacnipsey California2pacnipsey I'm originally from DC so yes on east it poor and struggle but compared what u go thru being black California id rather deal with DC and that place done turned into Chirac lol
@California2pacnipsey California2pacnipsey in the inner city outside of that California is a breeze....California is big it is more to Cali than gang banging..lol
Blacks fled from the south to go up north and out west for better living.. Its so much more in California, it’s just y’all’s government that’s fucking up y’all’s state.. It’s hard out here in the south, plus all the racism we face being black..
@@allenjohnson5159Why is it tough
i think this my new favorite interview... you ready for netflix kev mac. kind of want to see a pacoima piru or a OVGC interview.
Hey Kev Mac, on part 3 you gotta get Melly Mel to ask that one question, "Who were them hand guys?" Lmao!!
Old head with the OE I didn’t even know they still made that
Very informative and these dudes paint a clear picture of how it was. KMV is on a whole different level... with this content.
Used to be a dude named Squash back in 1984'85'86 from Sholine he was a white boy he used to hang with C Boo..
How about the street Kingston I believe? Culver 13 was active right there too. My boy Kev lived right ....a bald black dude on a bike rolled up on my with red sweats and a shotgun...nigga told me don't come back over there wit blue chucks on....had me like damn ...it is gangs out here 😂😂 but he made sure I wasn't from Venice
Yup, Home of The “Kinston Locos” Click. The Nigga You Talk’n Bout From CXC KLS
Dope interview can’t wait for part 3 👐🏽✌🏽👆🏽
I really wonder what's culver city's perspective on these situations.
OG in the back got on a fresh pair of ones
Idk bout fresh but they definitely some ones. 😂
Fax im thinking of copping me sum of them they fly asf
The OG with the tall can needs to be interviewed more. Kev Mac excellent video man. The chicanos and blacks have always had a major presence out in the west side. From what I know blacks and browns were the people who did the labor on this Venice canals along with a few Asians/ Filipinos.
Very true we all grew up together for generations..
@@yamomma6479 not no more
Now it all makes since why I use to always go over to them projects with my pops as a kid, my big cousin stayed over there but my pops use to always be over there and took me to play with my lil cousin....these mfkz was husslin over there! We all from 🍇st tho and these was them years they talking about! Wooow wait til I talk to my pops!🤦🏿♂️🤣
Lol
Shout out to Cali... Wildwood white boy from cali. Was in prison with him and there was a rumor he was Crip. Showed me hella love and when i bumped into him on the bricks he confirmed he was from Sho Line
KK been a heavyweight... i remember him when i was a kid...
Mane!! Preciate you Kev Mac!! been patiently waiting on another classic!! ✊🏾🙌🏾
Damn man I'm surprised nobody mentioned Venice Suicidal homies. I used to to a little this and that with some Sui's from Venice , and they was good with both Shoreline and the Vatos. They were the punk rockers and shit too the Samoans used to do security at fenders ball room here in LB which is why the Uso's from SOS claim Suicidals too. Like 15th and 32nd at Silverado.
was looking for this comment. and them White Boys.
Kev Mac! What a damn flair for the dramatic-ending! “....and the 60’s”.
93 was the last time sholine was in the projects when they got ran out .
One of my favorite episodes
I love how they respecting that elder. He had to be super thorough bacc in the day
@Kev Mac .. No one’s, only the ways that do what it takes for a great commentary to come out like u Do !! Great !! U been dropping that heat !!
Bro ain't lie. You had to be able to stand on your own in Mar Vista Gardens. The homies wasn't bout to save you unless they were there on site. Way too many casualties at that point. Blessings to the brothers that lost their lives in there.
The homies dad was from culver city gang he told us a story about throwing molotovs at the sho lines building in the projects
Wow lol
My Lil brothers ran that Mar Vista Grdens and didn’t mention them 1 time R.I.P Zen Dog!!!
But you would probably be surprised how many people contacted me saying their dad or their brother ran the PJ’s... it would make for a great conversation but someone feelings will be hurt when someone finds out the truth.
Elbert, I'm sure it's not intentional Big Homie! Still more to come. But anyway, Big Ups to Riff Raff(RIP) n Zen Dogg(RIP)! I know the Brotha still behind the walls, I won't name him, but me n (R) was tight as f**k!! Some down Brothas!! Big Ups!
Zen-dog r.ip stayed in camp rayford aka riffraff r.i.p was a football player But Zinnaman Zendog was S-man top shotta..Smurf Loc, t-dog,tay-dog-Droppe-Speddy loc 1&2,tray-dog, it's to many to name they was about 30deep in projects Zackary G-Mike E-monster,C-monster-Etc.
Zen Dogg (R.I.P.) was a real one, around 92 i was mobbin in Santa Monica goin to the party at the boyz club and this primered glasshouse came outta nowhere bumpin The Hit by MC Pooh, Zen Dogg swerved that mf towards the sidewalk jumped out wit his homies and banged on my ass, i gave it up ☝ SYC. By the time i got to the party, the Sho Lines was in there deep as fucc as usual! Ricc Rocc, Blue Ragg, and the homie Larry wit them shirley temples was showin out!
Zen Dogg was a good dude!💙💯
Great interview
I remember that war…. I lived on KINSTON when all this went down… they got kicked out the projects….
Shout out my uncle Eddie Dabbs
I remember that 90’s war, the Esés from Sotel and West Los was looking for anybody claiming Sholine at Uni High.
I think that's why my cousin was killed
@@kingtau Sorry to hear that. I know around 94 or. 95 it was ugly and active, me and the homies had to watch our backs on the West Side especially with us being from CrenShaw area
What year exactly? I was at uni & Indian/“indica” Springs continuation late 91-till like early 93 was only 2 sotel boys at uni, & none at
At Indian Springs. We “cc” claimed both schools at that time
@@westlosdeluxe2126 93 to 96
Lol old head said "hell yeah it was y'all" I holla'd
OG BIRD RIGHT THE SKATING RINK WASN'T EVEN THERE YET
OG Cisco was right. Look it up. 1981. And not long after there was a body dropped. Look that up too if you want proof. 1983.
Watching again. Classic🔥
Dope ass interview
RIP NUTTBONE VSLCUZZ!
You talkin about Lil NuttBone right? Big NuttBone still around i think. Lil NuttBone is Ant.
@@marclong7780 Yes Ant B
@@raygonzalez6074 Damn man, that was so long ago, R.I.P. to my Locs Chiccen, Lil P Dogg, and Zen Dogg.
@@marclong7780 Big Nut Bone passed too in 2018 I believe! RIP 💙🙏🏾
@@ducemalone2597 Damn man, to have that size he had, he use to put hands on niggaz! If you were gettin put on L.I.C. you wouldn't want him involved.
Blacks and browns were here in Venice first!
Bird will tell it all
Byrd don’t give 3 fuks
Og loc
I wasn’t expecting him to say the 60s. Wow.
SNIPER II From Culver City 13 KILLED BY SHO LINES CRIPS
BLANCO From Culver City 13 KILLED BY SHO LINES CRIPS
TURTLE From Culver City 13 KILLED BY SHO LINES CRIPS
👮♀️
Homie with the Dodgers hat 🧢, u can tell he was with it !!
Rest easy E. Dabbs 🙏🏾. We love you and miss you.
Good one! 👍👍👍
You gotta come to the hood and do a interview #FarmDoggs
A deep, dope one
The questions l was wondering about?
Guess who got it covered?
Big Kev MAC and Baby Smac!!!
Nice work fellas!!!
This is why l keep coming bacc for more!!!
1 Love!!!
Is OG" C Capone still around!! Im his Nepfew from Grave yard .... Please reach back at Me if Big C Capone is still around!! Please!! 🙏🏿💙💙💙
Some PJs was up there hustling too along wit the grapes...
I remember the good ole days at the marina at the arcade having a ball and getting into it with enemies LOL.
Just want to correct a couple things. I was born and raised in the Mar Vista PJs. I'm in my late 40s. First I never heard of culver city piru. Second the homie Tito was 15 yrs old in 93 when he got shot that night to kicc off the war. Third I never heard of culver city insane, but because Venice had LIC TIC and BIC cliccs we had CIC "Crazy Insane" in the projects. It was the younger generation. The same generation as the TICs in Venice. The late 70s babies. The generation that claimed SS VSLC. The generation my big homie KK spoke on having clashes with the eses and their big homies after school at Marina Jr High. RIP SMAN / TITO / SMALL DOG / LEE LOC² / ZEN DOG / SPEEDY
VIP big G Mike killed by the 60s @ Westworld
VIP ant Dog killed by 🍇….
This man drinking thunderbird
Late night off the tbird all we heard is they got what they deserved
Teena Marie Lady T grew up there black hood
"Put ya hands up"
Old school got scared too😆
The PE teacher from Hamilton was from VSL. He drove a clean ass Monte Carlo (burgundy) on spokes. He was an asshole but he was solid. Refer to strings on shoes and he was on yo ass.
You like 80 years old, how you still got conflict?