It's interesting that he said, at the end of the video, that resistance to acknowledging genetic bases of behavior has diminished. Many social scientists I know object to the idea that individual genetics and psychology have a significant role to play in human behavior, that behaviors are primarily due to social pressures and influences.
It is annoying when Gurus or spiritualists that think that humans have consciousness but all other animals do not. yet they say everything is in existence within consciousness. Humans can know so much but be so set in their beliefs at the same time, completely ignoring animals emtions and behavior just to think they are on top and special.
yes! its very true that ppl who know biology,know humans are animals and they dont get offended about that,wile ppl in other fields dont agree on this fact. im a vet and my wife works at some bank.whenever i say humans are animals or like animals,she gets offended lol. also saw this at some of my friends :))))
What's interesting about the experiments with capuchins is that male capuchins didn't really respond in significant ways to unfair treatment. It was the female capuchins that threw a fit.
At 2.45 Frans de Waal says how she, (the younger female) is willing to risk her life to improve her position. However, perhaps it is the reverse... that she is willing to, and MUST risk her life for the good of her group? That is to say, the old alpha is no longer as sharp; perhaps losing her control within the group and as such is becoming a liability and jeopardising order. Therefore, by necessity, the younger female must overcome the older, failing alpha in order to maintain stability, security and harmony within the group for the next ten years. Brave, even altruistic?
it all depends on the function of the behavior (the decision to challenge the alpha). I like your analysis of this, and would love for someone with expertise to answer it. My gut feeling is to assume the stance that the desire for power/dominance is a selfish decision by majority (i.e. it could be a combination of selfishness/altruism, but selfishness trumps). This is motivated by my study of rewards systems in the brain -- my understanding is that upward movement in the dominance hierarchy leads to higher maintained levels of dopamine and serotonin within the brain for a large number of animals for which the study has been conducted. Therefore, I'd see the idea of increasing rank in the hierarchy as reinforcing within itself. Would reeeally love for a scientist to comment on this though -- it's a great question
guess what, you can actually find answers to your questions by taking the time to research.. I'm constantly doing research to find studies to give me answers.. it's not always easy, and you have to read through a lot only to find that the study didn't tell you what you wanted to know, or disproved you etc.. but there is tons of animal research out there.. you just never hear about most of it..
Our morality appears to be driven by primitive feelings like sympathy or also the opposite of it. He talks himself about power relations among chimpanzees. I believe that in order to make sense of ourselves as moral beings that follow rules and laws consciously understanding how they serve a greater purpose than our individual needs we need then Immanuel Kant and his concept of pure reason. The human animal is deceptive like no other.
Altruism. I want to tell you about Monkey Too. I do volunteer animal advocacy on social media. I report videos that contain animal cruelty. I focus mainly on macaques. Monkey Too was a captive monkey in Cambodia (I believe). His captor had several monkeys and he abused them. Too was one of his older monkeys but he was still a juvenile. Too would often appear in videos with unexplained injuries - often head injuries. As I watched more of his videos I could see that Too was protecting the younger monkeys. He would put himself between the younger monkey and their cruel owner. He would get right into the bath and comfort the scared baby. He would climb up on the owners lap to protect the baby who also sat on the owners lap. Too is probably long since dead. I haven’t seen him in a video for over a year. But he will always be my inspiration to help get monkey abuse videos banned from social media.
There may be similarities between humans & animals but they are not the same. You lack faith my man, but NOT the church kind which is dogmatic. Do yourself a huge favor and study Dr Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposophy. What separates man from animals ? The spoken word....
Saying that humans are not like the rest of the animals is like saying that hippos are not like the rest of the animals. Of course it is that obvious, yet that bogus. About the spokoen word, I would take the final part when he says every time people claim something, biology ends up debunking it. Primatologists like him or Sue Savage Rimbaugh have doubts about concept language and thought to be an human exclusive capacity.
is he? after you said this I tried to find ties of him to vivisection and couldn't.. please provide resources for your comment, or I'll continue to think he has no connection with that disgusting practice.. and I will continue to watch him..
I can appreciate science on its own. I think that your own voice is drowning out knowledge. He does not care whether you see this or not and it has no effect on him or his previous or future work. Try to be objective.
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He is a very respected researcher in science. Thanks for the video
He is obviously very intelligent, but he also has a wry sense of humor. Fascinating speaker.
Humour is a sign of intelligence BTW.
I love this man. He know his stuff!
I’m glad he said certain people have been “indoctrinated” outright. It’s very true.
And then he skipped religion 😆
It's interesting that he said, at the end of the video, that resistance to acknowledging genetic bases of behavior has diminished. Many social scientists I know object to the idea that individual genetics and psychology have a significant role to play in human behavior, that behaviors are primarily due to social pressures and influences.
It is annoying when Gurus or spiritualists that think that humans have consciousness but all other animals do not. yet they say everything is in existence within consciousness. Humans can know so much but be so set in their beliefs at the same time, completely ignoring animals emtions and behavior just to think they are on top and special.
Hinduism is different...
A great read featuring Frans de Waal's research on Investigating Knowledge: @t
yes! its very true that ppl who know biology,know humans are animals and they dont get offended about that,wile ppl in other fields dont agree on this fact. im a vet and my wife works at some bank.whenever i say humans are animals or like animals,she gets offended lol. also saw this at some of my friends :))))
What's interesting about the experiments with capuchins is that male capuchins didn't really respond in significant ways to unfair treatment. It was the female capuchins that threw a fit.
At 2.45 Frans de Waal says how she, (the younger female) is willing to risk her life to improve her position. However, perhaps it is the reverse... that she is willing to, and MUST risk her life for the good of her group? That is to say, the old alpha is no longer as sharp; perhaps losing her control within the group and as such is becoming a liability and jeopardising order. Therefore, by necessity, the younger female must overcome the older, failing alpha in order to maintain stability, security and harmony within the group for the next ten years. Brave, even altruistic?
it all depends on the function of the behavior (the decision to challenge the alpha). I like your analysis of this, and would love for someone with expertise to answer it. My gut feeling is to assume the stance that the desire for power/dominance is a selfish decision by majority (i.e. it could be a combination of selfishness/altruism, but selfishness trumps). This is motivated by my study of rewards systems in the brain -- my understanding is that upward movement in the dominance hierarchy leads to higher maintained levels of dopamine and serotonin within the brain for a large number of animals for which the study has been conducted. Therefore, I'd see the idea of increasing rank in the hierarchy as reinforcing within itself. Would reeeally love for a scientist to comment on this though -- it's a great question
guess what, you can actually find answers to your questions by taking the time to research.. I'm constantly doing research to find studies to give me answers.. it's not always easy, and you have to read through a lot only to find that the study didn't tell you what you wanted to know, or disproved you etc.. but there is tons of animal research out there.. you just never hear about most of it..
you guys uploaded so many videos, not a single one with Michio ?!!
Our morality appears to be driven by primitive feelings like sympathy or also the opposite of it. He talks himself about power relations among chimpanzees. I believe that in order to make sense of ourselves as moral beings that follow rules and laws consciously understanding how they serve a greater purpose than our individual needs we need then Immanuel Kant and his concept of pure reason. The human animal is deceptive like no other.
what about sexual dis-function (elderly impotence) ? Can or how do do they exist in group?
Altruism. I want to tell you about Monkey Too. I do volunteer animal advocacy on social media. I report videos that contain animal cruelty. I focus mainly on macaques. Monkey Too was a captive monkey in Cambodia (I believe). His captor had several monkeys and he abused them. Too was one of his older monkeys but he was still a juvenile. Too would often appear in videos with unexplained injuries - often head injuries. As I watched more of his videos I could see that Too was protecting the younger monkeys. He would put himself between the younger monkey and their cruel owner. He would get right into the bath and comfort the scared baby. He would climb up on the owners lap to protect the baby who also sat on the owners lap. Too is probably long since dead. I haven’t seen him in a video for over a year. But he will always be my inspiration to help get monkey abuse videos banned from social media.
He may reject God, but his studies are spot on!!
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hmm...
Do yourself a favor, Don't be like you just were. It helps no one and wastes your own time.
Be constructive.
not first
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There may be similarities between humans & animals but they are not the same. You lack faith my man, but NOT the church kind which is dogmatic. Do yourself a huge favor and study Dr Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposophy. What separates man from animals ? The spoken word....
exactly!
Saying that humans are not like the rest of the animals is like saying that hippos are not like the rest of the animals. Of course it is that obvious, yet that bogus. About the spokoen word, I would take the final part when he says every time people claim something, biology ends up debunking it. Primatologists like him or Sue Savage Rimbaugh have doubts about concept language and thought to be an human exclusive capacity.
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Cool, a vivisector will teach us about justice, power, and morality.
is he? after you said this I tried to find ties of him to vivisection and couldn't.. please provide resources for your comment, or I'll continue to think he has no connection with that disgusting practice.. and I will continue to watch him..
I can appreciate science on its own. I think that your own voice is drowning out knowledge. He does not care whether you see this or not and it has no effect on him or his previous or future work. Try to be objective.