Physical Media Talk with FILMS AT HOME! | Jeff Rauseo (Complete and Uncut)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Heath sits down with Jeff from Films At Home for a discussion about all things physical media! What's coming after 4K? Is physical media in trouble? Are DVDs really that bad? Find out in this complete, unedited conversation!
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This is the collab we need for the culture. More of this stuff please and thank you
Really had fun with this conversation! Hoping to do it again sometime soon!
Me too, Jeff! Had a blast! Thank you for agreeing, and I'm looking forward to doing it again soon!
Directors Cut? Coda? Part 2? 😆
@@kylebookout1789 working on it! 🤫
@@JeffRauseo let's go!!
Two of the physical media giants right here!
Great conversation between you guys. Streaming is a frustrating experience for so many reasons for me. I only use streaming to watch older TV shows and won’t stream movies. I won’t sign up for any other streaming services. I have Hulu for free and Amazon prime for all the benefits Amazon offer. I’ve never seen Mandalorian, and won’t if it never comes out on disc. I am from the “if it’s not on disc, it doesn’t exist” school. I refuse to cave because I just don’t want to give in to lower quality and censorship.
Great stuff from Jeff and Heath as per. Genius crossover video guys! More to come soon I hope!
wow... finally ive seen you together. good to hear these big supporters of physical media in one show :)
I would rather own a DVD copy of a movie than buying anything digital
It'll look much better than digital
I still enjoy my Goonies DVD
Depends on the movie
@@soundwave7678 you should see the 4K Blu Ray 🍿😍👌🏻
Two legends! Awesome conversation. Cheers for putting it together, Heath
As Powerman 5000 once said.. "Now this is what its like when Worlds Collide"
Rock on, fans of the both of you, AND physical media!! 🤘
I love that album. Tonight the Stars Revolt!
Jeff raises my quality of life. For example, I discovered you now thanks to him.
Wow, that’s great! Glad to have you here, Yusuf!
I appreciate you!
That was a great discussion. I really enjoyed all the insight and thoughts you both had. Hopefully more to come in the future.
Two of my favorite channels combined! This was great! Hopefully more of this will happen
Sold him a blu-ray copy of Apocalypto a few years back. Glad to see his channel take off the way it did!
That movie feels like a fevered opium dream.
I have one sealed
I bought a copy of the movie last year and it is awesome in bluray because I had only a DVD copy.
I was one of those weirdos who bought widescreen VHS tapes too. The ones put out by FOX were usually the best with the copper clamshell cases
It's been really cool watching you both this year. I've been collecting films most of my life and have a huge collection. My friends think I'm crazy, but watching you both have made me realize that I'm not the only "crazy" still collecting physical media.
Nice! The joke will be on your friends in a few years when everything they want to watch is behind a paywall and they have to have ten streaming services to see what you can watch by walking over to your shelf and popping in a disc.
@@CerealAtMidnight amen to that brother...
Yes . Been waiting for this one. Nice to see a local to me collaborating with you. Jeff is a great guy. Hopefully more to come one day.
He was really excited when he told me.
you guys are great!
Aw, thanks, you guys!
Two of my favorite physical media youtubers!!
This was fantastic to see! Thank you both for getting "together" for this!
This was such a great conversation. Thanks for doing this and sharing it!
Really interesting conversation guys, thanks for getting my question in... Don't start me on proper aspect ratio!!! 😂😂😂
I’m kinda glad I submitted that question about his favorite thing in his collection because that was not an answer I was expecting. I amsuper jealous of his John Carpenter autographed stuff though.
I'm glad you submitted it too! It was a great addition to the conversation.
New to both of your channels and this we a great collaboration! Keep up the great work gentlemen!!! Like y'all, I love physical media and want to have my fair share free of control from the studio's streaming restrictions.
You guys must do this more often. Love both your channels.
Love the new intro, Heath. I’ve been collecting all my new purchases on UHD Blu-Ray since the new Bladerunner, but since I installed my 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos home theater it has really motivated me to go back and pickup my old favorites if they have a Dolby Atmos or DTS:X soundtrack. Ford v. Ferrari is my UHD equivalent of the Avatar Blu-Ray or the 5th Element DVD, if you catch my drift.
I do remember buying Widescreen VHS. Even if you get the benefit of filling the entire screen, You really do lose something with pan and scan.
Great topics and points guys! I agree with quite a few things you said. you guys are always on the up to date hot topics. Thanks. Yes, do more 😁
Very enjoyable interview. Two movie nerds shooting the breeze. Love it 👍
Love this! Great convo, guys!
Awesome interview and discussion. Subscribed.👍
Thank you for subbing!
Another great show! Thanks for all of the amazing content!
Great stuff guys, lots of similar thoughts. I love the 'home theater in a box' start. Sounds like we got to our current state in movies and home cinema love the same way lol
Great to hear from you, Ross!
I love this video and the subject matter! I'm have a small collection compared to you two, but I love all the three main formats (DVD, BLU-RAY &4K ULTRA BLU-RAY! I still buy old classics on DVD such as Gone With The Wind & Lawrence Of Arabia! Keep up the good work guys!
I was in Target just a few days ago and Over Heard a Girl talking to her Boyfriend that was Looking at the Dvds and what i herd her say was " Ya I Just cant see my self getting up and putting a Dvd in, I would just Rather Click to Play something instead." and shortly after that they moved on to other departments in the store. My wife and i just about dyed and haven't stopped Laughing about that since. This is the problem with people now a days Just LAZY.
That's sad lol. You don't even get special features with streaming. Hulu did do this behind the scenes thing for a handmaid's tale though.
I see 3 years from now being a further shrinking of physical media sadly but it is a strong sign for those of us who still want films physically that so many boutique labels are committed to giving us great 4K releases. Boutique labels are probably what is going to keep collectors afloat with releases for a good chunk of the market from here on out, especially with so many labels digging their heels in with streaming. Great conversation guys.
This was great! Thanks, and hope you do it again soon.
Great conversation, guys! Well done!
Hey cereal...love your channel and the interview that you did...I am part of the VC but also been collecting physical media since 1980s....I would like to reach out and see how I can be a part of the community
The vid was 🔥🔥🔥🔥....U guys got great chemistry. Can't wait 4 the next vid!
Cool u had this chat time with flim at home cause by chance i am already sub to u and him by chance. i am more dvd and some blu ray with combo by chance but not quite at 4k any. since most stuff i think is at vhs or dvd then blu ray gonna take some time to get more if not combo with dvd for me and if want that bad i may get for any reason. u all really dug deep and gave some back history to learn from so was a good time and sure u have part 2 later by chance.
I'm a huge collector myself, first format i started collecting was VHS as a kid, then DVD, Blu-ray and now 4K, still collecting Blu-ray as well.
Not a huge fan of streaming, i use some of it, but to me it feels more right when i watch a movie on physical format, kinda weird, but it's just something about the physical feel for me.
Grew up with all these great classics from all the way back to the 30's and up to the early 90's.
I really wish these titles could get a Blu-ray/4K treatment:
Little Giants
Dennis The Movie (1994)
Richie Rich (1994)
Baby's Dayout
Alligator (1980)
TMNT 87 and 03 series
True Lies
Terminator 1 (4K)
Gremlins 2 (4K)
Home Alone 2 (4K)
Blade 2 (4K)
A Nightmare On Elm Street Collection (Same treatment as Halloween and Friday The 13th)
Etc etc
I got into DVDs in 2005 on my 39th birthday when I got a player. It was a great surprise to me. I figure if there is no creativity you might as well die.
Wonderful discussion, Heath and Jeff! I love how the topic of aspect ratio came up. If I had a dollar for every time I had to explain that to people....haha!!! There is no certain future on this stuff we love, and so vote with our wallets we must! I'm looking to upgrade to a 4K TV this year, so I took note of the Sony line that Jeff talked about. I'm open to other suggestions as well, if you have them. I'm still operating on my humble 42" Vizio, which is a brand I absolutely love. Also, great tips on starting into the RUclips life. It definitely takes a TON of hard work. But I'm having fun with it, and always looking for ways to expand content. Anyway, thanks for the discussion!
Thanks for the comments, David! I have a TCL Class 6 4K ROKU TV that I'm quite fond of. It has some glitches from time to time since the last update, but it's got Dolby Vision plus HDR10+ and looks like a million bucks. The best part is, it didn't actually cost a million bucks. :D
@@CerealAtMidnight Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation! I have a few family members that purchase that brand and seem to be quite happy with it. I’ve been a Vizio purist thus far. It’s the only brand of TV I’ve owned in my adult life. Haha!
Just catching up on this one but a great idea. Love both your channels and great to see you guys collaborate together. Also agree with the whole 8K thing. For me personally at 48 and having collected films since the VHS days I can't see myself bothering to move past 4K. This is the peak definition for me in my lifetime and I'm more than happy with a nice mix of 1080p and 4K titles in my collection (and still have a healthy number of DVDs as well).
I can't see 8K TVs becoming mainstream anytime soon as even 4K is still battling to get into homes (the new console generation of Xbox and PlayStation will of course help as it did previously with Blu Ray). I certainly don't see 8K physical media happening in the next 5 years and unless you want to project on a massive screen I'm not sure heading to that resolution makes any sense for the home.
A lot of new transfers/restorations by studios or boutique labels tend to still be in 2 or 4k and rarely do you hear about it being any higher than that. Plus a lot of old movies particularly ones with practical special effects/mat paintings etc done in the days that never envisaged such high res home equipment already show up a bit too obviously on 4k (i.e. The Wizard of Oz for example) and Blu ray so I think we get to a point where this gets exacerbated to the point of distraction once we start getting up to 8k and beyond... I don't think it's necessary.. though no doubt they will try and market it still and try to push people to think they need an 8K TV.
But honestly for me 4k is it. I'm done. Plus my physical media library is so large now to upgrade it all again would be too costly and I have no appetite for going to 8K. I'd rather spend my money on more 4k, Blu ray and DVDs of things I still don't have. Even with 4k I'm very selective about what I get in that medium but will certainly buy certain things, especially older movies where the 4k and HDR really benefit (if done right) such Lawrence of Arabia for example....or if it's a newer film like Tenet which I don't have and I like and want a physical copy of then generally I'll grab the 4K. Physical media itself I hope isn't going anywhere soon though and hopefully we can have a few more years of gems like 2020 offered before the streaming/corporatisation stuff really reaches peak saturation and the majority of studios start to become reluctant to support physical media anymore (or very minimally).
Worse case for me is I can spend the rest of my life just enjoying my current collection even if I didn't add another title to it from now until I go to the great region free Blu ray player in the sky (hopefully 30 or 40 years away still!). So I'm sorted... Physical media lives... Yes... definitely.... 8k and beyond though...? I don't think it will go anywhere in my lifetime... Holographic 3d might be more interesting as an option for home entertainment than 8k... Would love to have that feeling of sitting inside the film but again probably unlikely in my lifetime!
In terms of streaming it's a great and convenient supplemental option but it's problematic in terms of highest quality experience possible and also still missing more stuff than it has. It also is so fragmented across so many platforms that you need to spend a fortune if you (like us physical media fans) want a broad range of selection and that gets expensive. This will only get worse as more studios try and carve out a piece of the pie. I can't see it replacing physical media as the answer in my lifetime. I just think physical media collecting goes back to the future and becomes niche for cinema/TV nuts like the Laserdisc days and you have to be prepared to spend the cash to get the releases (which are already pretty pricey lets be honest if taking boutique labels but we pay it if we are fans and have the disposable income means like some of us are lovely enough to have). Maybe a lesser issue with music but still if you want the best experience streaming isn't it... Physical options will always sound better and I still buy cds and vinyl though I stream too... Especially at work or in the car. But if I'm at home and want to immerse in an album it will be a vinyl record or cd played on nice sounding equipment I've invested in so I can get the best sound possible.
Love the vid, both your channels and hope to see more of these collabs! And Jeff I don't have an OLED either.. My 4K Bravia is still LCD! Cheers!
Good interview! Enjoyed it.
been collecting dvd from the start almost 5000
I love this video!
Your right in what your saying about the surge in purchases of phsyical media when something gets removed from a streaming service. It also happened when something gets censored like Gone With The Wind. I don't personally think physical media is going anywhere or at least not for a while yet. Alot of people still don't but bluray as they don't particulary care about picture quality whihc is why DVD's still vastly outsell it.
I'm exactly the same as FIlms at Home. I'm the only person i know personally that collects and family and friends always come to me to borrow stuff.
I started my channel so i could interact with more people who are also into physical media. I'm a big physical media collector and i honestly don't think i could ever change that.
Great conversation between you two.
Great interview! Love it!
Felling old is right and I am only 42. For me it goes back as long as I can remember being into TV and movies. My grandmother could tell you stories how fast it took me to get out of church clothes and be in front of the TV. Using the VCR recording 2-3 movies per tape in LP mode. Working at the movie theater as a teenager. Buying a Laserdisc player and movies with those earnings and somehow fooled the only Laserdisc video rental store I was 18 to have my own account and rent movies. I still have that player and small collection. I remember my first DVD player and the tech changing so fast that when the Matrix came out my player wouldn't play it and had to get a different one. Now I watch on my OLED with a 7.1(3 subs).4 setup. I will hate to see physical media and home theater to go away.
Jeff @Films At Home, never say never on buying multiple copies for the packaging. How many package options do you have for Jaws?
Great interview with my two favorite physical media collectors channels. Your a great host Heath. Thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks, Tom!
Great interview!
Great video, guys!
I'd love to see a video where someone asks Heath some of these same questions.
Like.. what is YOUR favorite piece from your collection, Heath?
Thanks! I do the occasional interview. Here's the most recent, and if memory serves, I talked about firsts and some favorites in this video: ruclips.net/video/5XJ7VVVFL5k/видео.html
Off the top of my head, ONE of my favorite collection items is my VHS copy of Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. That movie means a lot to me and it was the first movie I actively remember buying myself back in 1991. I have earlier VHS tapes that mean a lot (Batman, Home Alone, Dick Tracy), but I sought out Robin Hood and sometimes watched it twice a day. That VHS tape is a symbol of my movie love and how it all started.
@@CerealAtMidnight Robin Hood POT? Lol interesting. Errol will always be the Robin for me but I get your point. Memories and nostalgia and formative events hold a lot of power and I get why that is connecting you to that film and that item. I think it was the same sort of experience for me with Raiders on VHS which I still have today as well. Mind you don't get me wrong... I have a Blu of Prince of Thieves and it's a film I still enjoy and a bit of a guilty pleasure. But I grew up with Errol Flynn as Robin and no one will ever displace him for me. The shadowy flickery torchlight staircase swordfight between him and Basil Rathbone/Sir Guy of Gisbourne is one of the great memories of my youth that cemented MY love of cinema and the film always has a special and nostalgic place in my heart because of it and it's one of the main reasons I love cinema and cinema history today.
My two favorite physical media guys! The best crossover since BvS! For me, that’s a compliment!
Am I batman? (Thank you!)
@@CerealAtMidnight You claimed it first, congratulations! :)
Sadly what I see and I even do sometimes even though I'm a collector is if you can't find it on streaming you just go buy it on iTunes and I think that's what people are doing everything's on iTunes so I'm worried about physical media
The digital bits has talked about the star wars unaltered trilogy. Apparently it's perfectly possible as Disney does have prints of the original film
If fans can make 4K scans from existing film prints from private collections, it would seem possible for Disney to do so with all their resources. I’m with Jeff, there must be reasons that aren’t public.
@@CerealAtMidnight Yeah that's very true. JJ Abrams almost revealed those non-public reasons in an interview. I believed he asked Disney at some point about this.
@Jeff Carlin I've got those too! You should check out the 4K77 and 4K83 projects too if you haven't yet. It's just ridiculous that this is what fans have to resort to to get the original versions of these VERY mainstream movies, especially when many other films are regularly released with multiple versions.
@Jeff Carlin Yeah probably. I just burned them myself and put them in some quick artwork I made. But there are some really nice sets that popup on ebay sometimes.
Look at video games, and the Switch in particular, many of the games are coming out digitally only and then being released physically by an independent distributor like Limited Run Games. I think this is the future for movies as well. There will always be collectors and so companies will sell distribution rights for limited run blurays.
Stacked disks don't bother me. Because I can always just put them in different packaging. Packaging itself doesn't really bother me. My pet peeves are definitely playability issues. Things like on skippable ads at the beginning. Things like there is no play all function on a TV series. And things like there's no scene selection on a movie. Those are my main pet peeves.
A dvd series were all Episodes don't okay you got to play each individual lol annoying
My wife is supportive if not promoting that we get more physical media. So much so that we have doubled the personal collection in the last year and a half.
It's great to have a supportive spouse/partner!
I see Blu-ray and better quality becoming a niche market. DVDs are a platform with players and movies that are affordable to folks that cannot afford streaming, cannot afford high-end systems, and cannot afford even internet at home. DVD still allows the family experiencing financial difficulties or on a limited budget to watch and enjoy films together. I see this every day working in the new version of the video store, the public library.
In the past 10 years the library collection has grown twenty-fold. People in the community, and in communities across the nation, have donated DVDs and Blu-ray as they either upgrade to Blu-ray and/or 4K, or go to digital. I would guess at least 90% of our rural collection was from the generosity of our patrons. And our customers, the community, makes this one of the most popular and circulated collections in the library. I do not see this changing until more people are able to access the other sources for playing media. Jeff's assessment of around 50% DVD sales is most likely correct, if even a little low, until more people can afford access to Blu-ray and streaming if they are struggling financially.
Some may argue about the affordability of Blu-ray players and movies now, but there is a pushback on restarting your collection to other formats if you do have a nice selection on DVDs and can buy used DVDs cheap, or even new DVDs cheap from The Dollar Tree.
Good points! Question: Dollar Tree now has tons of Blu-rays in each new drop. I just bought a few last week. For the same price, you’d still choose DVD?
Last week’s market share report had DVD at 74%, I believe.
@@CerealAtMidnight When I see new titles hit the DT I and my friend team up to hit 5 or 6 of the stores looking for as much variety as possible. He is in it for the DVDs while I look for both DVD & Blu-ray. I buy some titles for the library, or mostly for myself. If there is a DVD I want I will shell out the buck for it even if I can get it online somewhere since want that title. Even if I go out and upgrade to Blu-ray or 4k later. I will gladly sacrifice that dollar later by donating the title to the library or just passing it on to friends or family if they want the DVD copy. Even if we don't add the title in the library collection our Friends of the Library will get it to sell at their sales. And that is another place to pick up titles that may be hard to find elsewhere. I probably picked up 50 movies in the past 3 years out of library book sales, at my library and others in the area.
@@CerealAtMidnight To answer the direct question I would choose the Blu-ray if both were at the Dollar Tree. However, some of my customers hit the store near the library to buy what they can get. Even if they have a Blu-ray player they will probably look more at titles than format based on how they select movies at the library to check-out. These folks walk or ride their bikes to get to us and some might have good AV equipment, but many probably do not.
Thanks for answering! I'm really just curious what people's buying habits are. You know, our focus here at Cereal At Midnight is not video quality, but on film and TV literacy. I don't really care HOW people are watching things as long as they ARE watching things. I do absolutely love 4K as a premium format and I think it's the closest we can come to recreating the cinematic theater experience in our own homes, but I've been a Blu-ray fan for 14 years, I was there at the dawn of the DVD era, and my first collecting format was VHS 30 years ago. Heck, our first home video player in my house was Beta Max. Quality doesn't mean a thing if what's on the disc isn't worth watching. Thanks again for the answers. Keep watching movies and keep supporting physical media!
This is always an interesting point when people raise it. Because of course, Texas Chainsaw Massacre looked great when it was new. It wasn't dingy or dirty, with worn, scratched frames, it looked clean and new, with good color and conrast. Same for Fulci horror and everything else. But when generations discover those movies via old and worn elements, that's what they feel a connection with. Look at the intro to this video that I put together, drawn from old black and white 16 mm video converted to VHS converted to digital. I have so much affection for that stuff, but that's not how it looked when it was new. I know the decay of the decades, but it wasn't like that originally. So it's interesting to compare original artist vision to our preferred presentations, which can be quite different from historical accuracy. 42nd street movies looked pretty good thirty years ago. I think nostalgia plays a larger role than we'd think in our preferred presentations. I don't think there's a right or wrong, but it's interesting to recognize.
You guys make me feel old saying back in the day I’m 42
I'm 41, and this conversation made ME feel old! It's always interesting to talk to people who grew up in the digital age and don't remember a time without personal computers, movies on discs, or who didn't watch movies on UHF channels on tube televisions. For me, that doesn't feel like that long ago, but there's an entire generation (two now) that doesn't share that collective memory, and THEY are the ones that the current movie market mostly targets.
@@CerealAtMidnight 48 here and 100 per cent agree. I have a 15 year old and I try to espouse my love of physical media but he and his friends tend to always default to streaming. It's just what they are "used to". I'll keep working on it though and he'll be inheriting my collection one day! If he wants to sell it so be it... Maybe if he shows no interest in the decades ahead I'll donate it to a museum or something ! Agree Heath it doesn't feel like that long ago when all I had was a little black and white TV in my room and no VHS and I had to wait for certain times of the year to watch old favorites like the Wizard of Oz, Willy Wonka, The Time Machine and Journey to the Centre of the Earth, 20000 Leagues Under The Sea, The Black Hole etc. But it was exciting and a big deal when that time came around. Some of that magic is lost now. Although I love having these huge physical media libraries (and streaming options) available and choice at my fingertips I do sometimes feel like I have TOO MUCH to choose from...I have had some nights where I have not watched anything because I spent 2 or 3 hours looking through the collection and/or streaming platforms and finally got tired and went to bed having watched nothing. Looking through the collection I guess can be fun in itself but I think you take my point. In those days it was simpler and there was a magic and excitement in all of that which feels lost today. Am I mad or do you know what I mean? I do find it a bit sad that it's so consumerist now and about the "sell" and these studios and music labels are so corporate and cold and it feels like that was not the case back in the day say with Disney. It's culture was not just about sales but creating magic. Having said that the old Hollywood studio system was also greedy and money hungry and soulless and that eventually died and sprung up new systems and new directorial aueters so maybe it is just history repeating and it will evolve again and something new will come along and shake up the corporates again sooner or later? Time will tell...
Underrated DVD release. Brian's Song original.
I havent jumped to 4K because I have too much invested in 2K. I spent around $1800 for a TV in 2014 that was one of the best you could get at the time. And the Blu Ray player was at least $150, maybe $200. I cant justify just throwing them in the trash right now to see a few more details in the picture
I think of myself as a 4k sceptic, so it was interesting hearing your points on 4k. I have a 4k player and TV but I only one a couple of 4ks and I can't see myself purposefully buying any. To me the quality difference is pretty minimal compared to the price of discs. I also hate the trend of totally mucking up the look of a film by playing with the colour timing. The recent LOTRs releases are a good example.
In my opinion unless 4k discs drastically drop in price I very much doubt they'll hit the mainstream. I believe Blu-ray is probably the last proper mass market film media.
Really interesting talk
Blu-rays get special color timing too, often WAY different color timing than what played on movie screens. I don't have those Lord of the Rings 4Ks yet (I'm waiting on the super duper mega box set this summer), but from what I've seen, they've removed the weird blue and green tints that had been added for Blu-ray. Almost always, the color timing of 4Ks is an attempt to bring things back to how they looked originally. Also, I'm wondering what sorts of movies you're watching on 4K. Most modern movies don't get much of a benefit, but for classic movies, especially those shot on film before 2000, the difference is really sharp. The Wizard of Oz has never felt more alive or real. At any rate, 4Ks will continue to drop in price, so hopefully you will find some at a price you like and that you can see a difference in video quality.
I don't believe it would be profitable to release movies and series on 8K if 4K and Bluray is still growing and popular. The SD DVD is nearly forty years old and still popular.
I am in the same group as Jeff because I bought my first Bluray player in 2011 to update my old DVD collection. I bought my first DVD player and a few movies on DVD in 2004.
I am older because I have seen movies on VHS since the early 1980s that have not been released on DVD or Bluray.
8K is a lot further along the diminishing return curve than 4K and blu-Ray. It's not that there aren't improvements to be had, it's that the improvements may not be noticeable at 8k.
Films at home and Cereal at midnight interview awesome very cool interview I don't like Stacking disks either in a case
I am enjoy this crossover video man :)!
You guys should start a podcast!
Kick ass intro!
(I believe this video was made before this minimalist talked started) Excellent video and counter point to the minimalist collecting movement videos from the last couple days that are popping up.
I personally do not support or even understand the minimalist movement in terms of film appreciation. Minimalism and deeper love and knowledge of film are polar opposites. It goes against literally everything I stand for and have been taking about since the birth of this channel. You will see ZERO conversations about minimalism on Cereal At Midnight.
@@CerealAtMidnight I am in complete agreement with you.
In the last 24 hours, I've been asked repeatedly to talk about minimalism, so I may have to go back on what I said by explaining how and why I think minimalism doesn't work. Still on the fence about it, but if you see it pop up, that's why!
@@CerealAtMidnight I don't think you need to say anything. You're not a minimalist, other collectors that want to be minimalist that's thier business, and it doesn't matter what type of a collector a person is. I don't think this would been a conversation anyway if it wasn't for Covid-19. (That's just me and I also think there is another reason but to long for me to say here) and there is no side to take and there is no right or wrong on this either, just how people feel at this time.
Long live physical media. I dont do/support Netflix or Disney+ or any other streaming service. If you care for discs dont support streaming.
I just picked up Twins on Shout Factory Blu Ray
I think when you brought up the point of focus of "quality" of presentation vs content is sort of discussing the difference between Cinemaphiles/cinephiles and videophiles. Cinemaphiles is about the content being most important and the visual quality is secondary, and videophiles care about the technology and the quality of the video presentation. It's not that either of these groups don't care about the other aspects, it's more about what is a primary source of enjoyment.
Jeff for example, as much as he talks about video quality, it seems as if that is a secondary concern. It's one of the reasons why he get flak from some of his channels commenters regarding OLED, because they are more of a videophile. I think this is even more the case with Heath.
I think that's a very valid point. I'm a cinephile, and even more so a pop culture junkie, since I'm equally interested in music, TV shows, comics, and pulp novels. I DO appreciate good quality, but it's never the selling point for me, the art itself is 75% of my interest. A quality presentation is just icing on the cake. I appreciate this distinction. I'm a retronaut, restlessly exploring the remains of the past. I'd prefer everything to look great, but it's a 480p world for most of entertainment history.
Great comment, @Robert T!
@@CerealAtMidnight . I have to admit I have started to go back and watch some older content, and I find it interesting to view the content from our time frame. I think I started doing this with some comics, and I found viewing these snapshots of culture from the past a very engaging experience.
I remember sun coast video had a section for letter box vhs 📼
I'm still mostly going with DVD now because I'm fine with the quality, they're generally cheap new and used now and some DVD pressings have exclusive extras but I'm also now upgrading some of my all time favourite movies to Blu-Ray and sometimes use streaming to watch exclusive stuff, harder to find features or sometimes to test drive movies and shows.
I'm a huge movie geek, and physical media enthusiast as well. I'd love to talk movies and physical media with you some time.
Thanks, I try to stay as active as possible here in the comments!
sorry as a 50 year old film fan and physical media collection, i think 4k is just a money making scheme, i will stick with blu ray
Waiting for Apocalypto on 4K
_ Sony has the Rights to Anaconda _ First two are Awesome!_ Would love to see
Them work their magic on that for 4K_ Cameron's Sanctum work look great in 4K if done right_ Not sure who's got the rights to Red Planet with Val Kilmer_ but I'd like to see one of the Boutique Studios take on the 4k Challenge
Lots of Westerns waiting for 4K transition also-
Hey Heath and Jeff! Excellent content. In 2020 I became a fan of these types of videos. Not sure how, but I came across Coolduder first, and then you guys started popping up. You are both among my favorite go-to's on this stuff. All of you have also inspired me to take a crack at producing some pop-culture based content here on YT. I just posted one that literally shot up in views overnight thanks to another popular podcaster sharing my video. If you feel so inclined, please pop over and check out my latest video. It's a topic you may enjoy. I'd love to get your feedback. I won't post links without your permission, but, if you are interested, the title for it is "Customizing and Consolidating Your 4K/Blu Ray/DVD Movies!" Keep up the great work and thanks again for the inspiration!!
I enjoy a film on blu ray a lot more than streaming it.
DVDs 75% of sales. I know normies that buy an HDTV and the cheapest DVD player from WM, hook it up with yellow, red, and white analog cables, stretch the video so that there's bars on top and bottom, and then say "I have HD!" And I die a little inside every time I see it. People like that are the best argument for digital distribution because it takes control away from them. Just let us nerds keep our discs.
20:04 Wrong Warner Bros. doesnt do original aspect ratio. They crop it to 16:9 to fit TVs
Freaking thank you for mentioning how ridiculous steelbook collectors are. I even see it with other types, like boutique labels. People want to have a full Kino set or something and they've seen maybe 3 of them. I want it to be about the movies. Don't even get me started on the ridiculous one click blu fans kind of packaging people pay for.
I like steel book blu Ray's but if I already have the show or movie itself(non steel book) I don't double dip. The only exception I made was for the elfen lied blu ray steelbook collection. It came with the soundtrack and an unreleased chapter of the manga so I caved lol.
I really hope 4K physical media catches on in a couple years. It’s an outstanding format! I’m not a fan of streaming. All these boutique labels are killing it with amazing releases!
you can import True lies on regular Blu ray for not that much
Disney making a service for R-rated/Fox content would be a bad idea. If the idea is to keep Disney+ family friendly, use Hulu as your more adult format since you already own it.
That's a great point that you bring up when you talk about the baseball card analogy. That ass also be one of my biggest pet peeves. Is when they release something, and then Market it as the special collector's edition of it. But it's the only addition that exists of it. There is no standard, or regular, or "normal" edition of that release. Therefore you are stuck buying this version of release with all this extra accoutrement that you don't inherently want. Like from me personally, I have no interest in buying any type of media release and getting a Funko poop. I have no interest in poops. Stop trying to shoehorn in funko poops into absolutely everything. I dont want poop in my dvds. I've never looked at a new title that has been announced to be released soon oh, and thought to myself, "you know what this needs? This needs some poop." There are poop collectors, and there are dvd collectors. There's really no reason for those worlds to merge into one.
Aren’t the original unaltered Star Wars trilogy on dvd??? I have a Best Buy exclusive tin
The unaltered versions were presented as non-anamorphic second-disc extras on a set years ago. They’ve never been properly presented on a disc, and definitely not in the HD era.
@@CerealAtMidnight ahhh I see! I’ve never popped those discs in.
They're highly collectible these days!
I always have debates with my friend who says digital is the way to go and I don't agree with him so I love my physical media.
The amount of movies that aren’t on digital is staggering. 99% of movie history is not streaming. In some cases, like the Fox catalog, it’s been sitting in a vault while it’s parent company decides what to do with it. The only argument for digital is convenience. The trade-off for that convenience is HUGE. Good on ya for supporting and owning what you love!
@@CerealAtMidnight that's the only thing about digital. It's less work lol,
Pretty sure the Company StinkyTuna has True Lies on Bluray now. Actually, for awhile now. I know Filmsathome said that'd be one of his dream releases. With Cameron being stingy and all lol StinkyTuna is a damn good Company. That usually does all sorts of releases. That's where I ordered my Legit Star Wars Holiday Special 2 disc DVD from. Straight from the site. Apparently they also do quite a few Netflix releases as well. So if you dudes haven't heard of em, definitely check them out. No other Company or Botique Label has True Lies on Bluray. Not to my knowledge anyways. As I know it can be quite difficult to keep up with a million and one Botique Labels and all. They seem to come outta the woodwork left and right now 🤘🏻
Stink Tuna is a piracy site and everything there is illegal and unauthorized. I’m only posting this to say that they should definitely not be supported. The only people who profit from sales on that site are Stinky Tuna. The studios get nothing, the cast, directors, producers, and so on all get nothing. It’s a gray market website profiting on HD rips from streaming.
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Well then, I had no idea..that's fair, that's fair. I guess ultimately up to people wether they want to support them or not. Shouldn't be made to feel like a criminal while doing so either. I only own the one DVD from them anyways, and that's only because I wanted the SW Holiday Special in that particular way. Given that the Holiday Special is only ever Bootlegs anyways..the StinkyTuna site was supposed to be a (legit) copy..remastered and such. It sure as hell looked legit to me. I do however appreciate your input and concern. I would be the same way ya know, but ultimately that's up to people on wether they wanna support them or not. Yeah all of us collectors have to stick together in this racket. Whoever can't appreciate that, is insane..I mean who wouldn't be concerned ya know? But that's not up to me either. If people wanna support em, that's up to them. Appreciate the heads up dude. I'll dig deeper on the matter. I think there's 2 sides to this. Something can be said for both. I respect what you had to say no matter. It does make sense that they're rips though. Especially if they're doin Netflix releases and all..anywhoo, Kudos.
I need this interview shot in 4k ( not that 2k upscale) in a steelbook. With cereal on the back and films at home on the front of the case. Directors cut. Or I won't support this content!
The worst thing ever in the movie world was DISNEY acquiring FOX will never be the same all started with Lucas selling over to Disney this was the start of the decline Disney just got to greedy - STREAMING is the future just so obvious I do think most people only want to see a movie once and that's it! Just buy your REAL favourites that's the future I think! Most kids watch films on their phones that's the market such a shame!
I'm still dvd guy
Does anyone know why they still make DVDs? It' sort of like continuing to make PS2 games. HD's been standard since like 2007. So now when I rent, sometimes I can only get stuff on dvd, even for new stuff.
Because they account for about 75 percent of all disc sales. If they discontinued DVDs, many people would not transition to Blu-rays, they'd likely just not buy anything at all. Disc sales are still a billion dollar industry, and not making DVDs anymore wold be leaving a huge amount of money on the table. In other words, it would be really bad for business, and for the home media industry as a whole. Also, many movies and TV shows do not have high definition scans, or even surviving elements to make HD scans.
I collect 4K, but it has to be a movie I like. If it’s a classic film I love, I’ll upgrade to 4K. I don’t need to upgrade all my blu-rays to 4K. I still have some DVDs that never made the jump to blu-ray. Such as The Abyss and Strange Days. I did finally break down and buy the region free import blu-ray of True Lies because my DVD got laser rot and it does look better than the DVD. Some films may look great on 4K, but aren’t good movies. I don’t want something sitting on my shelf I’m only going to show as a demo disc. There are plenty of good films you can use as demo discs. I only have a 2.1 sound system (sound bar + subwoofer) and a Sharp 50-inch 4K Roku TV in the living room and a Vizio 43-inch with Dolby Vision and just a sound bar in the bedroom. So, Dolby Atmos doesn’t really do anything for me. I live in a small condo. If I could afford a Dolby Atmos system, the local cops would be constantly over for noise complaints. I go to the cinema when I can for the immersive sound experience. That being said, it’s nice to have Dolby Atmos on there if I ever move to a bigger place and upgrade. Really, the HDR and Dolby Vision are the selling points for me on 4K. I’m not really into steel books because they tend to take up too much space. I like to spine my movies on the shelves for optimum use of space as storage space is limited. My pet peeve for collecting is region locking. Not so much on 4K, but I’ve been burned in the past importing a blu-ray on eBay that didn’t say it was region locked in the description. I still have the Star Wars DVDs that have the original cuts on the flip side. I must admit that I have a back log of 4Ks I need to watch. They’re all movies I’ve seen before and enjoy. Just have to find the time to watch, because I have three jobs and too many other shows I watch on streaming. However, I will watch them because my criteria for collecting physical media now is that it has to be something I’ll re-watch several times. Unfortunately, it’s not like back when it was for me when I was a kid. When I could watch Star Wars or Grease every time it came on TV because I had tons of free time, limited viewing options, and no physical media to watch at home. Great job on this video guys.
Fab chat!
Project 4k77 and 83 are godsends. Disney will likely never release them as long as Lucas is alive, if they even exist.
Damn Heath you do NOT look 40
OAR: Now you have to watch out buying old TV shows, many full screen shows have been cropped to widescreen to fit new TVs... Argh!!
Really? I haven't seen this first hand, thankfully. I know a ton of old shows have been cropped for streaming, but I haven't experienced it with any of my discs.
@@CerealAtMidnight The first season of Kung Fu on DVD, both seasons of Night Man on DVD, a few others I'm forgetting. The Blu-ray of the classic Battlestar Galactica is cropped to widescreen but at least they offered a deluxe edition that also included OA... ah, but that version was more expensive!
The Babylon 5 series on DVD is also cropped to widescreen.