Felling a Dangerous Leaning Tree - Bore Cut Before the Face Cut

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @RockhillfarmYT
    @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +45

    Here is what happens if your make a mistake on a leaning tree
    ruclips.net/video/h-x9dThrmwA/видео.html
    here are my 3 favorite videos on felling a leaning tree:
    @OutdoorsWithTheMorgans
    ruclips.net/video/Pfj6DXzeIoU/видео.html
    @terryhale9006
    ruclips.net/video/tGLV4AcyYXw/видео.html
    @guiltyoftreesoneastsidetre4792
    ruclips.net/video/nLIEYvHMS8U/видео.html

    • @uprightfossil6673
      @uprightfossil6673 Год назад

      Thanks for showing how to do this dangerous cut

    • @robertbutler8004
      @robertbutler8004 Год назад +1

      @@uprightfossil6673 now go and and watch how it should be done Buckin' Billy Ray Smith

    • @popogejo7245
      @popogejo7245 Месяц назад

      What you're teaching here is an older method that has gotten a lot of cutters hurt. Let's hope you haven't gotten anyone hurt using this insane, and completely dangerous method. And to top it off, you even did it wrong.
      Most living breathing successful modern day fallers use a double face. A double face (bird's mouth, instead of a Humboldt) takes all the tension off the lean, let's the faller control the direction of the fall, and eliminates the need for a bore cut, unless you're using a real short bar.
      Also, there's a reason pro fallers were short chaps, and "peg" their pants. The first time you get the hems of your pant legs, or those stupid straps on the chaps hung up in the brush, and fall face first into yur bar, you'll catch right on.
      The other thing is that cap your wearin!! It was designed, and built for a European market, not the American market. Europeans have an entirely different forest, with entirely different harvesting methods, for both hard and soft wood.
      There's a reason the cutters on the West Coast wear full brim, TIN hats with secure suspensions!!! In fact I had one save my life! The tin will collapse and take the heat instead of remaining rigid and snapping your neck. Same with the full length chaps, they're designed for a European market.

  • @DaileyWoodworks
    @DaileyWoodworks 2 года назад +261

    That reverse footage right as you finished the cut freaked me out! 😂

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +16

      I enjoy that effect
      Thanks for watching

    • @ParaBellum2024
      @ParaBellum2024 Год назад +2

      @@sherrickcampbell9054 Me too, and he just put the saw back in to clean up the cut! I had to watch it twice to see what he did with the video!

    • @DavidStocks-yt2jl
      @DavidStocks-yt2jl Год назад +2

      It was a very nice cut and know one way hart good work

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 10 месяцев назад +4

      Very resilient tree. Almost hopped back up on the stump. 🤔

    • @lonesquid
      @lonesquid 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah! For a second there, I started doubting all I know about physics! 😂

  • @genewilliams7497
    @genewilliams7497 2 года назад +98

    Well done!! Be careful though cutting that one up with the trunk totally off the ground. I got air lifted to Vanderbilt in Nashville 4 years ago bucking a tree like that and I’ve been felling trees for 45 years. I read it wrong and it rolled at me and crushed my right leg ( compartmental syndrome ). Almost lost my leg but thanks to god and the surgeon team I kept it. A year after the accident I was back at it felling timber. Great video today explaining how dangerous a leaning tree is to fell. Keep em coming! Your Channel is the best of its type on RUclips Hands down!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +13

      Sorry to hear about your accident. That’s definitely a scary situation and I’m glad you recovered from it
      Thanks for the kind words about the channel. I agree that the part that is left to do is probably more dangerous than cutting the tree down

  • @Scott-fy7fm
    @Scott-fy7fm Год назад +65

    Just an FYI, when making a bore cut you can actually get a good general idea of the depth of rot in the inside by monitoring any changes in the wood chips and dust that come out as you cut. Thst is important because it shows you how far the tree is compromised so you can be less likfly to have it crumble on you
    Nice controlled drop

  • @clairecelestin8437
    @clairecelestin8437 10 месяцев назад +35

    The first and most important piece of safety gear is a good set of brains. You brought yours and applied them to the problem. This video could save a life. Everybody stay safe out there.

    • @andrechevalier8055
      @andrechevalier8055 Месяц назад

      @clairecelestin8437 je sais que c’est la grande mode de ne parler que des épis mais je préfère voir quelqu’un qui connaît son boulot et se sert de son cerveau que d’avoir 1000€ d’épis et de prendre l’arbre sur la tête 😂dans ce cas les épis ne serviront à rien ! Par contre c’est la première fois que je vois faire le perçage avant la charnière. Mais pourquoi pas 😂😂😂

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 Год назад +189

    Well executed! I've used straps and chains for a safety net on hard leaners. One suggestion, and it seems others have said it as well, cut the trigger wood from the outside and just below the back cut line. Cut most of the way back as you did, then switch. This reduces the chance of the tree taking your saw with it and can give you just a little more distance from the trunk when you pop it. Stay safe and nice video!

    • @Scott-fy7fm
      @Scott-fy7fm Год назад +9

      Somewhere a bar in the future thanks you for remaining unbent

    • @Or_die
      @Or_die Год назад +1

      Nice job!

    • @johngibson3837
      @johngibson3837 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think you should post this to other RUclipsr People as they seem to think they've learnt something useful and could probably die, those rachit straps will do nothing except maybe smack the person's head another wey to die, while you were doing the feling back cut your saw could have been trapped then what do you do, lots ov mistakes mate

    • @johngibson3837
      @johngibson3837 11 месяцев назад

      My comment was for the vidio creator

    • @Djspiffymcdoo
      @Djspiffymcdoo 6 месяцев назад

      @@johngibson3837the ratchet straps at to help prevent the tree from barber chairing

  • @RockyHillGuy
    @RockyHillGuy Год назад +62

    I always enjoy seeing a sharp saw in action! And your dialog was great... straight to the point without any unnecessary rambling. Thank you!

  • @stephenphilbrook6239
    @stephenphilbrook6239 2 года назад +67

    When the video rolled in reverse after it fell I thought the tree sprung back up and I thought you were going back to try to cut it again haha it freaked me out alittle. Good job!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +7

      I never get tired of using that effect. It looks like I stuck the saw in there just in time

    • @markp.9707
      @markp.9707 Год назад +3

      Same exact thing I thought when I watched it.

    • @georgeortega6791
      @georgeortega6791 Год назад +2

      Ditto

    • @misterguts
      @misterguts Год назад +4

      Ditto here, I did freak out when he played that video in reverse, I thought the tree was kicking back and he was going to get a dose of tree trunk applied directly to the forehead.

    • @aaronmutch1883
      @aaronmutch1883 Год назад +2

      Same😂

  • @Kinsanth_
    @Kinsanth_ Год назад +29

    I am no woodcutter, but that looked really well made and very well executed. Shows how to safely cut down a leaning tree with no barberchair. Very impressive

  • @runtimmytimer
    @runtimmytimer Год назад +26

    I would have done an open face notch on this one to give as much time as possible before the notch closes. That'll prevent the hinge from breaking off too quickly before the top hits the ground. Once the hinge breaks you lose control of the fall. Worked out in this scenario but can add a bit more safety to the job with an open face. Even a humboldt would be a better choice than a traditional notch here. The only other thing I'd recommend is before cutting through the holding wood on the back cut, pull the bar out and finish the back cut outside-in to prevent a "tail" being pull out of the back strap. It's also easier to pull the saw out if you need to bail quickly.

  • @zandemen
    @zandemen Год назад +2

    There's a bunch of possible complications of doing the bore cut first, while the danger can also be mitigated by making a smaller notch, which does not have those risks.
    Example, if the wood is rotted, hollow there might not be enough holding wood and it might break off unexpectedly while forming the face cut if it is also weakened by a bore.
    Misalignment of the bore and face cuts, Tear out of the holding wood and root on the back side, yup, just like that 8:04 finish the back cut from back in to meet up with bore. Never know how much root will come up and smack you down.

    • @pavlovmali1
      @pavlovmali1 Год назад

      Time for you to do the video, because the way you wrote is how you do it, not like on a video above. I see no added value doing bore cut before face cut. And I know, what I'm talking, since most of trees I fell, are some kind of leaners (steep terrain).

  • @hafpipe
    @hafpipe Год назад +23

    Face cut first before the bore. The face cut puts the operator in danger, particularly on a forward leaning tree, so you don't want to increase that risk by reducing the holding wood first. Face cut, then bore, then back cut. However, we're taught that the back cut be done coming down from a 45degree angle to meet up with the bore cut, thus giving you added safety from the falling tree. This type of cut we call a Dog's Tooth - beacuse of the remaining wood on the stump after the 45d back cut is completed. (This is what we're taught in the UK.)

    • @stephenclarke2206
      @stephenclarke2206 Год назад +1

      That's how I would have done it so you can cut the stump low & your final cut can be done standing up allowing you get away safely.

    • @MysticalDragon73
      @MysticalDragon73 Месяц назад

      Exactly this guy is clueless doing that crap

  • @OmegaBlueFarms
    @OmegaBlueFarms 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks. I'm self taught on the chainsaw and have been cutting my own firewood for 20+ years. There has been a few uncomfortable falls over the years! Thanks to your video, I learned something new today that should help me live longer.

  • @chadandlauragross1264
    @chadandlauragross1264 2 года назад +82

    Great job and I enjoy your sense of humor! “Nothing wrong with being nice about it” That was awesome😀

  • @byronn.2885
    @byronn.2885 Год назад +19

    This method is helpful even when the tree isn’t leaning or damaged. It prevents the tree from getting pushed around by wind and also helps prevent the saw getting pinched as the kerf is maintained while cutting. I use this method a lot because it allows me to pause and assess my surroundings until the very last bit of the cutting.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Год назад +4

      Same. I bore cut unless I need to wedge the tree against its lean or something like that

    • @thomaslindroos1667
      @thomaslindroos1667 Год назад +3

      Well yes but if its a straight tree it will sit back on your bar when you cut through the back unless you use wedges or make the face cut deeper

  • @jasonholden2780
    @jasonholden2780 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great vid man, the tree did exactly what you’d planned for it to do without any surprises and in felling, that’s as good as it gets so nothin wrong with that. Appreciate the clear, concise (and accurate) commentary without any bloviating or other various BS (how refreshing!). Plus that plunge cut, dude… putting on a clinic! You’ve obviously stabbed more than a few things with chainsaws. Good technique with strapping the stem as well so nicely done there too (though I tend to go big, using 5/16-3/8 chain with several wraps). I typically keep the back cut a little closer (lower) to the height of the face cut apex both when bore cutting or traditional, and prefer to leave a back strap of holding wood instead of cutting my way out like that. I feel pulling the saw back out of the cut and releasing the trigger from the outside is often a bit safer because the bar isn’t inside the cut as movement begins, and more importantly, it allows you to reposition your body further from the trunk because you no longer need to either dog the saw in or otherwise be close enough to create leverage with your body/arms. Often you can just throttle up and tap the trigger and she’ll release. Lastly, and this usually isn’t a big issue with heavy leaners because typically you’re not going to try to turn them laterally too far away from where they’re already inclined to go (bad idea for plenty of reasons), but a more open face (higher angle) wedge cut keeps the hinge intact through more of the tree’s decent arc, and therefore you’ve got “steering” almost all the way down. While the hinge wood is intact you’ve got control, once it’s not, you don’t. Whatever, not quibbling just throwing it out there. When the trees are on the ground, laying where you intended for them to be, and nobody is hurt or equipment damaged, you’ve done an excellent job. Period. Thanks again, great clip. Cheers.

  • @mikeb46
    @mikeb46 2 года назад +14

    Clever approach.
    Never thought about the hazard of a hollow leaning tree being able to do unpredictable things.

  • @marlenelukowski7395
    @marlenelukowski7395 8 месяцев назад +4

    Man that saw in the beginning cuts trees like butter. Thank u for helping Doss Farm on their property. After the fire they really needed a hand and God bless u. I can’t wait to see those boys running and playing through the hills of that land. U are the best. 🙏😊❤️

  • @soteriamediaproductions6165
    @soteriamediaproductions6165 Год назад +8

    Nice job! I’ve been felling trees for years for firewood, not business, and you taught me new tricks! Thank you. That’s some beautiful wood in that tree. Don’t know why you got so many coulda, woulda, shoulda comments, you did a perfect job.

  • @joshuanicholsjr5327
    @joshuanicholsjr5327 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have been cutting trees for 52 years and love watching someone who has learned great techniques and applies them well be safe god bless

  • @johncoleman8793
    @johncoleman8793 2 года назад +21

    Well done. Did you think about releasing the tree after the bore cut by cutting the trigger from the outside of the tree?

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +10

      Yeah, I should’ve done that
      Thanks for watching

    • @lesleyboeder1798
      @lesleyboeder1798 Год назад +4

      Yes I would have put a wedge on each side them cut the trigger from the back

    • @budtackett8347
      @budtackett8347 Год назад +1

      ​@@lesleyboeder1798 are you putting wedges into the bore cut then cutting slightly beneath missing your wedge?

    • @wizardsuth
      @wizardsuth 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@lesleyboeder1798 That tree had a severe lean. It didn't need any wedges to push it over.

  • @cameracamera1319
    @cameracamera1319 Год назад +18

    There is nothing wrong with you. You are a polite person who deserves to be honored for who you are and your excellent video. Thank you.

  • @FireDude13
    @FireDude13 2 года назад +114

    Nicely done Brock! You are really good at walking us through your evaluation, expectations, and execution. And kudos for the safety equipment! Only thing I might mention is given the risk involved with a leaner I might have had someone with you at least until the tree was on the ground just in case...

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +9

      That would be smart

    • @juicebox41
      @juicebox41 2 года назад +5

      At least a cell phone in your pocket. But a person with you is best.

    • @jukeseyable
      @jukeseyable Год назад +20

      @@RockhillfarmYT good job chap, just a word on the trigger release cut. It is always best to set your trigger, then pull your saw out, and cut it from outside of the tree. It just gives you a few extra inches of safety, and with it time, also its a lot easier to bring the saw with you that way. i apprieciate that you could not be totally confident regarding the integeraty of the hood that constituted the trigger. But a lot of information can be gleened from both how the saw is cutting, and how the sawdust looks. stay safe chap, greetings from wales U.K

    • @daskritterhaus5491
      @daskritterhaus5491 Год назад +5

      ummmm, who was holding the camera?

    • @alanross3435
      @alanross3435 Год назад

      @@jukeseyable good information! Do you know my friend Tim from the UK? He lives near Cornwall!🇬🇧🇺🇸☮✌🏻

  • @yeeeehaaawbuddy
    @yeeeehaaawbuddy 10 месяцев назад

    You created that mess with perfection, sir. Well done. As long as no one gets hurt, and nothing (aside from the tree) is damaged.... SUCCESS! Thanks for posting.

  • @920724danti
    @920724danti Год назад +11

    Great video. Appreciate the comprehensive explanation of the plan, followed by the felling. Alot of chainsaw vs tree vids just go at it and can't always see what they are doing and rarely know why! Great job

  • @BradHines
    @BradHines Год назад +2

    Arborist here. For preventing the barber chair, you want to put that lower strap a lot lower than that, basically a few inches above your cut.

  • @dougreid2351
    @dougreid2351 Год назад +14

    Watching the video again after a year and it even makes more sense now. VERY WELL DONE!
    DOUG out

  • @michaelmcguire8028
    @michaelmcguire8028 Год назад +9

    One of the best examples of this type of cut I have ever seen. Good job Hoss!

  • @jeffyeee5098
    @jeffyeee5098 Год назад +4

    You did a good job of explaining the bore cut. I understand why you placed it where you did. Thanks friend.

  • @dariend6368
    @dariend6368 Год назад +1

    100% the best example of how to fell a very dangerous tree!!! Hands down the best example I've ever see!!! 30+ years cutting trees, i definitely learned a great lesson, thank you sir!!!!

  • @Musikater
    @Musikater Год назад +25

    Good job! You could bring even more safety into this process if you stop your felling cut (when you cut from the bore cut outwards) about 5-6 inches before you get through. Then you pull out your saw and this holding strap of wood that is still holding the tree in place you cut inwards with maximum stretched arms as far away from your body as possible. Why is this safer? Because when the tree starts falling your saw is free and you can exit the danger zone immediately. When you review your video you will notice the time delay to pull your saw out of the cut. This little time delay you can eliminate with cutting a holding strap from outside.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Год назад +3

      Yeah, I generally do that, but I went too far on this one.

  • @HaleBopp
    @HaleBopp 10 месяцев назад

    I've considered plunging as my first cut on a leaner but always done the face first.
    Shall give it a go.
    Plus I always leave a backstrap when tangled limbs are involved, like to prepare my balance well for that quick retreat!
    Excellent video, the strapping always a good idea with even slightly rotten trees.

  • @Funkafella01
    @Funkafella01 6 месяцев назад +15

    I never even considered strapping the tree a safety measure to combat a barber chair. Learn something new every day! Smart 👍🏾

    • @alankott3129
      @alankott3129 6 месяцев назад +1

      I've seen it done with chains when straps aren't an option.

    • @Jkf53
      @Jkf53 2 месяца назад

      Done it many times with a chain and load binder.​@@alankott3129

  • @garypellerin5576
    @garypellerin5576 Год назад

    I would never in a million years thought to bore cut, then work the saw inside out on final cut. Very interesting and well produced video, thanks.

  • @bobcameron23
    @bobcameron23 Год назад +10

    Well done video. Proper PPE. Easy to understand explanation for the cinching straps and the overall plan prior to cutting. Good execution of the saw work. Can’t think of anything negative to mention. Good job.

    • @huckros282
      @huckros282 Год назад +1

      What a relief Negative Bob had nothing negative to say.

  • @ChrystianGuy
    @ChrystianGuy Год назад

    Today, I learned something that may save my life next year when I start cleaning up my estate! Thanks man!

  • @G53X0Y0Z0
    @G53X0Y0Z0 Год назад +4

    One way to tell if it was rotten is to bore in from the back with the bar vertical, in the direction you want to fall it. Can be done below the falling cuts to possible preserve your log, if that's an issue. The method you used worked, but there are other options as well.
    After making the under-cut, make two shallow back-cuts, one on each side that angle and meet at the back. Those 2 cuts would form a triangle with the front, or under-cut. Make sure the 2 angle cuts cut into the hinge area on each side about 10-15% of the tree diameter. This allows you to make the back-cut faster, and cutting into the sides of what will be the hinge also tends prevent barber chairs all by itself.
    Also, make sure you saw cuts as fast as possible, if not the method you used may be best. Another method is to bore in from the rear and just leave wood on the sides for the final felling cut. Trees barber chair when too much hinge wood is left on hard leaning trees, and one reason too much wood is left is the saw can't cut enough of the wood quick enough, and the hinge is too thick and strong to break off or bend. I spent a lot of years falling timber, and probably have fell a quarter million trees in the NW, we had to deal with the same issues on occasion. I have seen big trees barber chaired 30' or 40' up.

  • @timothypirnat3754
    @timothypirnat3754 Год назад +2

    I agree Brock. Constructive criticism in a nice way. Most of us like to learn, and there can be more than one way to get it done safely. An open discussion in the comment section prevails.

  • @michaelchownyk5255
    @michaelchownyk5255 Год назад +3

    I love the tree bouncing back up that’s classic.

  • @JaredMSewell
    @JaredMSewell 7 месяцев назад

    I watched this with hopes of being taught something I did not know and you did not disappoint. Thank you for sharing this. I actually learned much more than I expected to.

  • @johno3888
    @johno3888 Год назад +10

    Actually this is a technique I was not at all familiar with. Personally I feel it was a textbook illustration and result. Fortunately it proceeded perfectly well and as you say predictable. Love it when a plan comes together !!!

  • @Canopus68
    @Canopus68 9 месяцев назад

    I love watching these videos. I often wonder where they learned how drop a tree like is. In the 40 plus years I've run a chain I never did it this way. I always found, that starting cutting my notch on the right side of the tree as I face it made it easier to cut my notch. I start with the saw pointing at a right angle in the area were my notch starts. Then I draw my saw around the tree cutting to the depth I need. When the sight lines are pointing in the same direction I want to tree to got. I repeat by the same method to cut top angle to open the notch. Now I'm ready to do my back cut. I do a plunge parallel to my face cut. I cut toward the back on my face cut. If my bar isn't long enough I go around to the side where I started and insert the saw into the back cut I made from the other side. Lastly when I'm ready I cut the back strap that's holding the tree.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  9 месяцев назад

      That sounds like what I did. The only difference was that I made the plunge cut first. I normally leave a trigger and cut it from the outside. On this one, I went as little too far

  • @HudsoniteJessie
    @HudsoniteJessie Год назад +11

    Had a hollow poplar leaning over a walking trail. It was about 30" at the base, and at the crest of a steep hill with no safe place to stand while cutting. I cut a square hole in the trunk, put a sandbag above and below a 6lb can of tannerite. Took care of it safely from 200yd away.

  • @EM-df6mo
    @EM-df6mo Год назад

    Excellent explanation of your plan. The tree came down beautifully, you are standing upright and talking at the end with no injuries. I think you did it perfectly with zero errors. Congratulations, using your head to work smarter and stay safe.

  • @ryanv3751
    @ryanv3751 2 года назад +10

    I’ve never seen the ratchet strap technique before but it makes sense. Great Video!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +4

      I learned that trick from Mike Morgan in one of his videos.
      That’s what I love about RUclips. it allows us to all share ideas and learn from each other
      Thanks for watching

  • @JBplumbing12
    @JBplumbing12 6 месяцев назад

    Good job. And well thought out. Thank you.
    Just one little thing: At a chainsaw course we were taught never to put on chain break with the rear hand but always by rolling forward the back of the wrist of the front hand while keeping hold of the front grip, so as to prevent the possibility of slipping a hand past the chain break and accidentally touching the chain. So that is a habit I have tried to maintain.

  • @johnrobertson7583
    @johnrobertson7583 Год назад +71

    The idea behind using a bore cut is so you can cut the backstrap last from OUTSIDE of the tree…cutting backwards from inside could trap or twist the saw out of your hands

    • @mrose4132
      @mrose4132 Год назад +8

      I've never used a bore cut because I'm an inexperienced homeowner but I watch videos to learn and improve safety and I've never seen it cut from the inside out like this.

    • @RobofMarr
      @RobofMarr Год назад +1

      Me neither .
      Have a large leaning Poplar to do very soon. Obvs plan to use this cut to drop it . Not the way round he did it though.

    • @gunerdown
      @gunerdown Год назад +9

      I have cut a lot of trees and I don't get why you would use a cut like this. You have to strap the tree because it could kick back and kill you. You also spend longer since you have to strap the tree and the cut uses a lot more muscle . I like to make my cuts and use a wedge to pound into the tree to hear it cracking if it's a large tree. That way I don't risk my saw and I can run away faster. Seems like the only reason to make a cut like this is for RUclips but feel free to explain to me why cause I am always willing to learn more.

    • @rickwilliams967
      @rickwilliams967 Год назад +1

      I'm assuming inside out is a tree cutting term, but that doesn't make much sense, since it's not physically possible, but that's not important. Also, I know a backstrap as a primal cut in an animal. I'm very confused.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Год назад +13

      Putting the straps on the tree is not related to the type of cut I made. It’s a pro tip I learned. You can do that as a safety measure when you think the tree might barber chair.
      A bore cut is the most common way to cut a tree by professional logger. That’s how they all do it. It gives you control of when the tree falls.
      To understand why they do it this way you need to know what a barber chair is. Here is a good reference for you explaining it
      How to Safely Cut Down a Big Tree - Traditional Cut VS Bore Cut
      ruclips.net/video/QfGCDgp5e8A/видео.html

  • @bone0944
    @bone0944 10 месяцев назад

    You clearly know what you are doing. An excellent job safely done. You make it look easy.

  • @craigjay769
    @craigjay769 2 года назад +6

    Nothing wrong, gave me some great ideas yet again for some dangerous trees on my property. Thank you

  • @HavanaWoody
    @HavanaWoody Год назад

    LMAO , you got me with the instant replay , I thought for a second she had bounced. Perfect execution , Plunge cut and straps were the only way to go into the unknown on such a big leaner.

  • @blauro
    @blauro Год назад +15

    You are a kind and polite dude. You did an awesome job. Thanks for posting this.

  • @jud5280
    @jud5280 Год назад +7

    Good morning from a first time viewer. Here is my clinical take on the ratchet strap not being in the locked handled position. If the handle is not in the locked position it can fail at a much lower than rated specification. There are many known failures of ratchet straps being used while the handle is in the position for tightening and clearly not locked. The better safe than sorry heavy leaner bore cut was very well stated, if not entirely executed with poper forestry spec; super good enogh. The bore cut should have alerted you to the nature of the wood in the middle of the tree. Watch the sawdust and feel if the speed of the chain. If the saw goes crazy faster , then the insides are no good. Sucess to you and youre future posting.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Год назад +2

      Thanks for the feedback
      You make a good point on the position of the straps. Also, you can tell by the sawdust, but by that point, I had no reason to change the way I was doing it.

  • @jsmcguireIII
    @jsmcguireIII 4 месяца назад

    I've used timber fallers for decades but never saw a man make a back cut like that. Please stay safe brother!

  • @Profeex22
    @Profeex22 Год назад +13

    Well done! As someone who did commercial tree work for 4 years, I commend you on your preparation. Taking into account the mishaps that may occur, tree work isn’t dangerous it is hazardous though. Had the escape route ready lol

    • @Scott-fy7fm
      @Scott-fy7fm Год назад

      Hazardous escape routes always annoy me while watching bad cutting videos before anything else. So many people focus on the heavy leaning tree weight and don't realize it's the tiny little root sticking out that will end up getting you hurt or killed

    • @Profeex22
      @Profeex22 Год назад

      @@Scott-fy7fm more often than not I’d take more time clearing my 45 then it took to put the tree over loll I’d use a 562 or 661 they put the chips down haha

  • @klausrutzel3015
    @klausrutzel3015 Год назад

    Nice how you brought down the tree. As others said before me. With this kind of leaning trees I use the what we call "Sicherheitsfälltechnik mit Halteband" safety felling technique with retaining strap. You do as you did, except the last few inches, you switch pisition and cut the retaining strap from the outside. Said that you did a very good job!

  • @rodneyscrivner2504
    @rodneyscrivner2504 2 года назад +6

    Great job Brock, you did a good job thinking through this one then executing, still nerve racking not knowing the innards of an ole tree.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад

      Thanks. I thought it was going to be more rotten on the inside

  • @edwardmyers3244
    @edwardmyers3244 2 месяца назад

    "There is nothing wrong with being polite..." LOL What a polite way of putting that. Nicely done

  • @joshhomer4367
    @joshhomer4367 Год назад +11

    Overall great job. I really liked the bore cut to set up your face cut and straps to help with integrity.
    The one thing I would have done differently was instead of completing the back cut from the bore is I would have come in more standard from the back an inch or so below the bore cut to release the back. Would prevent that back peel as well as put you in a better cutting position when it fell if it were to twist or do something unexpected. Learned to cut leaning alder and cottonwood that way.

    • @gypsyxxx
      @gypsyxxx Год назад

      ageed..Buckin Billy Ray would not approve of this method eh

  • @marshallcollins8634
    @marshallcollins8634 9 месяцев назад

    A friend used to say
    Say what you mean but you don’t have to be mean when you say it.
    I think you did a good job, now I need to learn the terminology of a tree feller. ?
    I have cut down a few hundred trees on MY property but nothing weird or too dangerous. And nothing over 30” across. I’m sure I did a lot of stuff wrong, but just was lucky. Now I’m 64 and my health doesn’t permit me to do any tree cutting, but I still like to dream about doing it. I also love watching someone do what they are good at.

  • @heavysnow8616
    @heavysnow8616 2 месяца назад

    Awesome! I learned a few things here, carefully and logically plan the cut. A safe felling is the goal. Good job!

  • @rickdebacker100
    @rickdebacker100 Год назад +5

    Outstanding! Great job. Great explanations. Great use of physics.

  • @stevem6711
    @stevem6711 Год назад +2

    Those leaning trees tend to have too much stress to be a good saw log for the mill. Nice job.

  • @stevenetram
    @stevenetram Год назад +5

    that was freaking beautiful and perfect. thanks for the education. im facing almost the exact feat brother and you gave me the push i needed. bless you

    • @gwmgbwi
      @gwmgbwi Год назад

      That’s great, truly is. I like this video and the guy who made it but please, look into other bore cutting tutorials. This worked here but is fairly different from every other lesson I’ve ever seen. Husqvarna did a fantastic video on the subject.

    • @stevenetram
      @stevenetram Год назад

      @@gwmgbwi thankyou. i will.

  • @FastEddie45Az
    @FastEddie45Az 2 месяца назад +1

    I always wonder about demonstrators with brand new equipment.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 месяца назад

      Who are you talking about? Everything I use in the video is stuff I bought myself. The chainsaw at that time was over a year old and heavily used. Even my helmet had broken straps on it so it wasn’t really protecting me anymore.
      Sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining

  • @MrPabco
    @MrPabco Год назад +12

    Nice explanation and walkthrough of your planned cut. Looked like a perfect execution (of the tree...) Thanks for bringing us along.

  • @photographe06
    @photographe06 Год назад +1

    "There's nothing wrong about being polite"... should be at the top of every comment section on youtube!

  • @budwalterhouse2310
    @budwalterhouse2310 Год назад +5

    I hope you didn't get poison ivy from the vines at 9:08. When it drops like that, you did things right. I was surprised it wasn't partly rotted.

    • @throngcleaver
      @throngcleaver Год назад

      That wasn't poison ivy. It's Virgina creeper, and is not poisonous.
      The old saying is:
      Leaves of five, let it thrive
      Leaves of three, turn and flee

    • @sc100ott
      @sc100ott Год назад +2

      @@throngcleaver At 6:50, I see both. I saw him wipe his face, and had to rewind to make sure it wasn’t the same hand that brushed the PI.😅

    • @throngcleaver
      @throngcleaver Год назад

      @sc100ott You're right, that side of the tree has poison ivy. He knows the difference and wouldn't grab it like he did the creeper, unless he was going to rinse his hands before spreading it to the saw or take a leak. 🤣

  • @deborahhopkins3213
    @deborahhopkins3213 8 месяцев назад

    Watcher from Doss Farms, thank you for helping Chad and Rae.

  • @dustdevl1043
    @dustdevl1043 2 года назад +35

    It looks like that tree may have been hit by lightning at some point. Your cuts lined up perfectly, and great editing btw!

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +3

      I was thinking lightning or possibly taking heavy physical damage while it was a small tree
      I love using the rewind effect on something falling.
      Thanks for watching

    • @dustdevl1043
      @dustdevl1043 2 года назад +6

      @@RockhillfarmYT I liked the strap idea for added safety, had never seen that before. I was thinking that maybe a wedge tapped temporarily into the plunge cut on the far side of the tree would make it easier to line up the notch cut. On a larger tree, it's not visible unless you stop and walk nearly to the other side. Maybe a dumb idea, but I'm just a fellar, not a feller.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +6

      Anything to help you see the cut is good
      Love the feller jokes😂
      My daughter isn’t finding them funny

    • @dustdevl1043
      @dustdevl1043 2 года назад +5

      @@RockhillfarmYT The tree feller gets the big bucks, the tree fellar gets to run the wood chipper.

    • @tunnleking
      @tunnleking Год назад

      @@RockhillfarmYT Not that it matters now but just for the sake of discussion and maybe future observation. That section of the tree where the wound or "rot" was, looks like the scar left from a discarded co-dominate leader. When the tree was younger it looks like it developed two trunks (leaders), the lean on the section that remained was due to the two leaders growing away from each other, which most likely caused the weaker leader to fall at some point and leaving the scar. In the video at about 1:20 you can see how the wood around the scar is a different color and rounded, relatively smooth, that's called wound wood and is a part of compartmentalization, the natural process of a tree sealing off a damaged section of itself.
      Great video, I liked how you explained your logic and then executed your plan exactly as you predicted, I call that a success.

  • @JeffStrickland
    @JeffStrickland Год назад

    Well done! Had never seen or heard of cutting down a tree using a bore-cut like that. Fell perfectly. Thank you for the detailed walk-through.

  • @garrisonaw
    @garrisonaw Год назад +5

    Not bad. A couple things I would recommend. First, on ANY tree, but especially on hazard trees like this, your back cut (and thus your plunge cut) should always be even with the vertex of your notch, never above it. Second, I would have put the straps (or better yet, a third strap) a lot closer to the top of your notch.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Год назад +5

      I’m interested to hear why you say that.
      Every video I’ve ever seen has stated that your back cut needs to be higher than the bottom of the face cut.
      The reason given makes perfect sense, and I have examples of why. If something goes wrong and the butt tries to kick back at you, it can’t because you’re back cut is higher and it will catch the tree right there.
      I remember watching one video where a tree got hung up and was stuck up in the air with the butt still on the log and the Feller mentioned that if his bat cut had been parallel that tree could’ve shot off backward

    • @garrisonaw
      @garrisonaw Год назад +1

      @@RockhillfarmYT if the tree is trying to kick back at you, you did something wrong.
      The reason you don't cut above the notch is because the tree won't hinge properly. You'll have a greater chance of either barber chairing or of the tree snapping before you're ready.
      I've been trained to work on dangerous trees.
      I had to go in and clean up after someone who cut about 6" above the notch, and the wind took the tree exactly the opposite direction they wanted the tree to go, taking out power lines and a pole.
      I got an emergency call to come fix the problem where someone started to make their cut above the notch, and the tree started to fall back, pinching their saw. He got lucky. If he had cut another inch or so, the tree would have snapped backwards, and it would have flattened the house where the guy's aunt was sitting, watching him work.

    • @wizardsuth
      @wizardsuth Год назад +3

      @@garrisonaw The problem with making the back cut level with the bottom of the notch is that the tree may break the hinge and slip backward off the trunk as soon as it's cut, especially if the tree leans or gets hung up on other trees. Making the back cut slightly higher prevents this.

    • @garrisonaw
      @garrisonaw Год назад +2

      @@wizardsuth It's your choice, obviously. I'm just giving you what I learned in professional arborist training. And when I worked for Davey tree service, it was enough of a safety violation to earn you an official warning, but not serious enough to get suspended.

    • @Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum
      @Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum Год назад

      I think there is a reason for both methods. Before the angle of the undercut was tighter. Nowadays the angle should be around 60 degrees so that the tree almost can reach the ground before the undercut nips.

  • @phil4341
    @phil4341 Год назад +2

    Good job and I liked the way you explained your reasoning for cutting the way you did.It showed up nicely in the way it fell.

  • @lloydwilliams8715
    @lloydwilliams8715 2 года назад +5

    Good morning Rock. That was a very intelligent explanation of a successful project. Love it 🇯🇲🇯🇲🙏🙏

  • @zeroquanta4252
    @zeroquanta4252 2 месяца назад

    Great Cutting,,, Like how you STOPPED and showed exactly what was going on with the hinge...

  • @christopherhale8405
    @christopherhale8405 Год назад +2

    I have done some work with trees and logs . And yes , that was a very dangerous tree to cut . I think you done everything right . Good job. I had a buddy cut a tree like that couple years ago , and he had a trip to the emergency room , and stitches . He was very lucky , cause the trunk exploded on him . Good job .

  • @btrent9244
    @btrent9244 Год назад +1

    Outstanding strategic approach to felling that tree. Great job.

  • @ericrice6748
    @ericrice6748 2 года назад +9

    The only problem I have is at the 8min mark you are touching what looks like poison ivy, lol!!!

    • @FireDude13
      @FireDude13 2 года назад +4

      I saw that too... heck I even look at poison ivy and I seem to get it! Tends to make the ivy jump out at you when you see it lol

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +4

      I never look for poison ivy or pay attention to it because 41 years living in the country and I’ve never gotten a rash from it
      I guess you can be somewhat immune to it

    • @mckenziekeith7434
      @mckenziekeith7434 10 месяцев назад

      @@RockhillfarmYT out here in California we have poison oak. Same "active ingredient" but looks a little different. Some people never get for many years and then one day they do. Just FYI.

  • @col2lin
    @col2lin Год назад

    Brock the good thing about you & your antics is that you do your best to get & keep our interest. I feel that you would do well explaining paint drying, Just get a quick drying paint.

  • @rodbagley1686
    @rodbagley1686 2 года назад +3

    Well that was kind of cool. Never saw anyone cut a tree from the center back. Like the way you did the hinge. I am still impressed with the bar on your saw. You could almost sit on your tractor seat and cut from there. Two thumbs up.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +1

      90% of trees can be cut with the standard procedure but in certain situations you need a trick or two up your sleeve
      The first time I used that 36 inch bar it was intimidating but now it doesn’t seem like a big deal
      Thank you for watching Rod

    • @rodbagley1686
      @rodbagley1686 2 года назад

      @@RockhillfarmYT love watching your videos. Had my 1025r out yesterday. Dugout some old tree stumps. Put about 5 hours on it playing in the dirt. Had a good time untill a massive rain storm ended my digging..

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  2 года назад +1

      Sounds fun

  • @ThermomixTm6Edition
    @ThermomixTm6Edition Год назад

    Thank u for a good explanation, i just bought 7000 square meters of forest and put it down , and i need to educate me in all ways because i have a lot of respect for the danger of cutting trees,

  • @dannytravis7118
    @dannytravis7118 Год назад +10

    1 you cut too close to the trigger point. You should have left about 2 inches at the end of the back cut, pulled the saw and used the tip of the bar to cut the trigger. Also you could have used the hammer and whacked the tree to to test the tree for a hollow spot. All in all you did a good job on a dangerous tree and I'm glad it worked out safely for you. One more tip. Personally I would have used a chain for strength instead of straps just in case it tried to split

  • @eCitizen1
    @eCitizen1 Год назад +1

    Thanks. I will definitely use this technique the next time I take down a leaner. Which is pretty often recently with all this heavy winds and rain.

    • @RockhillfarmYT
      @RockhillfarmYT  Год назад +1

      I almost always bore cut unless the tree needs wedged over.
      Just start the Saw at parallel and then rotate it in so it doesn’t kick back
      How to Safely Cut Down a Big Tree - Traditional Cut VS Bore Cut
      ruclips.net/video/QfGCDgp5e8A/видео.html

  • @EvenTheDogAgrees
    @EvenTheDogAgrees Год назад

    Well, that was a joy to watch. And I learned something new about the straps!
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @orionmec
    @orionmec Год назад +2

    Thank you for the great explanation of this. I don't cut much down but I seek knowledge of all types. You did a great job!

  • @elmerwilsoniii
    @elmerwilsoniii Год назад +2

    Great video. I liked your dialog. Explaining everything you’re doing really helps. I’m no professional saw man but I understand what some of the other people in the comments are saying about cutting the back instead of going from the inside out. I do believe that if you’re not rushing things, you’ll be just fine with an inside out trigger cut. Great job!

  • @blake86303
    @blake86303 Год назад +1

    The tree is down, you ain't bleeding, and the saw still works. I'd say you did great!

  • @RS6AIRBOX
    @RS6AIRBOX Год назад

    Thank for sharing! I did exactly what you explained with a leaning old fruit tree in south of France, and it worked well.

  • @martinriley106
    @martinriley106 Год назад

    That looked so well executed and safe too! Most important thing!

  • @brianmilliard6998
    @brianmilliard6998 Год назад

    Awesome video buddy
    I have 52 acres I’m slowly clearing, lots of leaning & dying trees.

  • @keithwood6459
    @keithwood6459 2 месяца назад

    3:14 Tree Hugger! Good video. Interesting, thoughtful approach to felling this hazardous tree. Worked really well.

  • @shannonforusa45
    @shannonforusa45 Год назад

    Good job! Thank you for the solid instruction. Like your reminder for ppl to provide their opinions in a nice way.

  • @Grungydan
    @Grungydan 9 месяцев назад

    Great video and super explanation. Every time i started to wonder of you were going to address or explain something, lo and behold you stopped and made sure to talk about it. Thanks for making and sharing this!

  • @MrAdeyb
    @MrAdeyb Год назад

    Nice to see a pro talking sense and doing a proper job on RUclips

  • @johnf6545
    @johnf6545 2 месяца назад

    Nice job, will apply this next time I have a hard leaner, thanks.

  • @tozobozo4142
    @tozobozo4142 10 месяцев назад

    I like the way it bounced right back up again the first time. But then you jumped right in there and showed it who's boss.
    A lot of nice dark heartwood in there!

  • @TonyVomfell
    @TonyVomfell Год назад

    Good info, thanks for posting. I have a lot of trees to fell this year and some are leaners.

  • @robinburkey2466
    @robinburkey2466 Год назад

    I really appreciate your instructions. I've learned good things from you and the comments. Thankyou for posting. Stay safe out there everybody

  • @peterbull3955
    @peterbull3955 Год назад +1

    I love the anti barber chair strap strategy. First time seeing it but it makes a lot of sense!

  • @twbishop
    @twbishop Год назад

    each technique, including the amount of holding wood, looked perfect and went according to plan. safety first.
    your reward is a healthy body with no injuries.
    i use bore cuts on all large trees with lean or signs of decay.

  • @clion520
    @clion520 Год назад

    I know nothing about arborist stuff, but it seems like a good reasonable plan, I liked that you strapped the tree