How Trees Fall With Different Undercuts
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Join me in this captivating video as I take you on a comprehensive journey through the world of tree-falling techniques. In this demonstration, I explore the artistry and precision of different undercuts and their profound impact on the direction and speed of a tree's fall. Prepare to be amazed as I showcase a range of cuts, including the powerful cut-through, the strategic high back cut, the calculated low back cut, the robust thick hinge, the intricate shallow notch, and the masterful combination of a shallow notch with thick notch wood.
Each cut is meticulously executed, and I provide detailed explanations of their purpose, highlighting the specific circumstances in which they are most effective. As you immerse yourself in this educational experience, you'll gain valuable insights into the science and methodology behind tree-falling techniques. Whether you're an aspiring arborist, a forestry enthusiast, or fascinated by the wonders of nature, this video offers a unique opportunity to witness these techniques in action.
Join me as we delve deep into the world of tree falling, unraveling the secrets of each undercut and discovering the fascinating dynamics that influence the behavior of trees during their descent. Get ready to enhance your knowledge and appreciation for this ancient practice as we unravel the intricacies of the cuts that shape the destiny of trees. Don't miss out on this captivating journey into the art and science of tree falling!
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0:00 The trunk is almost cut through.
0:26 A very high back cut and uneven notch.
1:00 A shallow notch
1:27 A thick hinge
1:53 A shallow notch and a thick hinge.
2:08 Conventional facecut
2:33 A very shallow Notch.
3:10 A low back cut.
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This is one of the shortest and at the same time best video’s about this subject I have ever seen. Brilliant!
Thank you!
I do a little wood-cutting and a little video editing.
Your falling techniques are so advanced I've never seen or heard of most of them.
And your editing is superb! You don't waste our time, you get straight to the point showing us cut-lines. The multiple camera close-ups so well-edited makes me happy to subscribe just to see two subjects I enjoy learning more about.
Thank you very much John! And welcome to my channel!
This video cuts through any confusing information and perfectly illustrates what beginners need to know for a minimum of basic knowledge. Nice job.
Really cool seeing the fiber pulls on the different cuts
Awesome hinge footage! Lots to learn from there.
Now if I only knew when to employ each technique. There must be a reason you would do it one way over another.
Good job . Perfect 👍👍😊😉
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo tellement utile pédagogique. Merci
Michel
this is great! thank you guys
Thank you very much, and welcome to our channel!
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I like this..
In Finland do you always cut the bottom out of the wing cuts or is this just so that we can see the hinge wood breaking off better
Good question,, but of course no answers. Why do people put up videos and not monitor for the best questions, .
the SIZWHEEL is for VERY EXPERIENCED fallers. Very cool to watch it 👍👍
Очень интересно, но нужно пояснить когда какой способ нужно применять
Как его домкрат называется?
Very nice compilation. Thanks.. I have seen many felling videos , but no one has compared so many options before. The choice i noticed the biggest problem with was the very shallow facecut, which ifnsone on the wrong type of tree could cause a barberchair.
You may like to check out a video by Guilty of Treeson channel, with a rather shameless self-promoting title ;-) "WORLD'S BEST TREE FELLING TUTORIAL! Way more information than you ever wanted on how to fell a tree!" - where they show you eight different cuts and how a tree falls down on them. Here, in case you're interested: ruclips.net/video/nLIEYvHMS8U/видео.html
And then there's "Buckin' Billy Ray Smith" channel, by a guy who knows how to fell a tree before he sees it ;-) (just kidding, but he's knowledge and experience is VERY impressive), and then there's this channel by August Hunicke - and gazillion of others. Hey, just sharing my knowledge about them it's up to you if you want to visit them. Cheers.
exactly what I was going to say.
It wasn’t the shallow face that almost caused it, it was the thick hinge. A thick hinge especially on a leaner or applying pressure to the tree will always do that. That’s part of the advantage of a shallow face, it keeps the tree upright a little longer than a deeper face and let’s you cut a proper backcut without worry. He just left it a little long as was probably pushing it over with some force. A shallow face is generally used on leaners also because it gives you more room to plunge cut your hinge on smaller trees while still leaving plenty of holding wood on the backside
Truth. You don’t want to cut a deep face cut on a leaner because that can make the back cut angry and when you start the back cut it can pop your tart
@@u.sonomabeach6528 u sonomabeach, now I'm hungry for poptarts.
Спасибо! Хотя я спилил нимало деревьев, очень интересно!😊
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I'm curious - will each of these methods repeat dependably virtually every time?
It'a a great video, by the way...
Love this
Excellent!
Most people I have seen felling trees tend to get away from a tree that's starting to fall. This guy must be very good, watching a near barber chair up close...😮
yes
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK
Haha, sir, I salute you!😉
He is very talented 💪👍 one of the best
If you watch any of his other videos you see he cut the tree off and only leaves 6 foot stump to use in his demonstration’s.
@erickdvdk its due to the type of tree…i think they are fir…absolutely the wrong thing to try with a US red or white oak…
Dang bro is working in soft wood with straight trees. Dream situation, yet still jacking? You rather carry that than a wedge and axe? Awesome demonstrations. God speed and be safe.
I'm also from Finland and we use jacks often. Probably has to do with the size of the trees, quite small so the wedge bottoms out before enough lift is generated to fell the tree over. Or that is my theory at least.
Thanks for a nice video again!
Is there a reson for not showing the benefits of practising the safe corner felling cut?
The lenght of the video
What's that?
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Nice video.
But when should the different cuts be used? I believe different conditions request one of those?
That's what I was wondering.... seems to be no ryme nor reason for the different cuts
EXCELLENT QUESTION! I didn't think of that, this video was just to show them quickly to you
Back to the drawing board...
There is one face cut he did not show. That is known as the birds mouth. It is about 100° angle and it allows the hinge to retain control of the tree even after it hits the ground. It is much more ideal cut when dropping a tree down a hill.
@@johnrobertson7583 I prefer using a down facing birds mouth most of the time. Better control.
😊Hurraa ✌️ Good work ✌️ 🙋♂️
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No trees were harmed in the making of this video
Я ничего не понял в технике валки. Надо пояснять видео реза!
С маленьким подпилом- может сколоть ствол. Высота скола достигает 5-6 метров. Это очень опасно, может убить вальщика...
Что такое скол?трещина вдоль ствола?
@@user-pp4gv9zy4v ствол трескается за долю секунды, под напряжением собственного веса часть сколовшегося ствола резко прыгает назад и повисает на сколе оставшемся на пне на высоте 5-6 метров и потом падает слева или справа от подпила убежать от него сложно, у меня было такое пару раз в начале своей карьеры вальщика, и несколько раз видел как другие бегали одному переломало ноги...
У нас вальщики не валили ни одним из способов, что показан в видео. Ну не было никогда вот этих многочисленных спилов по окружности ствола. Не было последующего вырывания волокон. Не было образования этих щёток из волокон в торце спиленного ствола. Смотрел видео и на ум приходила мысль, что всё, что вижу это какой-то брак в работе 😢
@@R1aUS под (многочисленными запилами) я как понимаю вы имеете в виду боковые? ( это делают для более удобного контроля , что бы не перепилить). Щетки и торчащие волокна (как вы выразились) это есть не допил, который и должен быть, нельзя взять и перепилить , это не безопасно.
@@NesyBred Что там нужно лучше увидеть? Они, что лобзиками пилят? Идиотские американские технологии. А рубанком почему не сглаживает бока? Одни идиоты делают, а другие, по всему миру, повторяют🤣🤣🤣
What tool are you using to help the tree go over?
It is a tree-jack "Stalpen"
No example of a "Humboldt"
All these examples does not show at all what would happen in many different cases: different wood, rotten parts, leaning degree, side roots,...
So, the choice of proper way of felling is based on particular case, but at the same time on estimation that will provide statistically the safest procedure.
I'm ignorant on the topic and your demonstration is fascinating but there's something I really don't understand and it's this: surely how the tree falls is going to be almost entirely dependent on the how the weight of the branches is distributed? Take an extreme example where all the weight is on one side with nothing on the other, it will always fall towards the weight however you cut it.
I don't see how you can compare how a tree will fall without considering the canopy first although I can see it might kick up differently from one cut to another or fall more slowly.
Yes! First you evaluate the tree, then you plan the cut, use the equipment needed and then cut the tree.
Sorry, but you are completely wrong: How the tree falls is almost entirely dependent on the cut!
The wood remaining between front- and backcut becomes a hinge, which allows, to give him any direction I want:
No problem to get a tree, that is hanging in a 45 degree angle backwards, to fall in the opposite direction!
I can cut a tree, that is hanging to one side, in a way that it first swings to the side and then falls in a right angle to his former gravity direction.
In this video, it is always a very similar situation and we see, how different cuts influence the dynamic/mechanic of the fall.
I guess, to fully appreciate it, you need to be really experienced with the chainsaw AND have a deep interest in the physic of the whole process...
What is the purpose of the side cuts on the tree?
20" diameter tree and an 18 bar
Takie cienkie drzewa to można byle jak ścinać. Aby upadło
Kalau pohon tegak lurus, mudah mengarahkan robohnya semau kita, tehnik itu bisa di terapkan, tapi kalau melawan arah, perlu skil tinggi dan alat bantu
Just what the doctor ordered, Finnish Lumberjack!
Great!
Qual o nome dessa ferramenta de manivela que você usou para empurrar
Stalpen
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Why do you trim the sides of your notch every time? Does it have to do with the length of your bar?
Shows the cut better for demonstration. Wouldn’t do it on the worksite
I hope you are raking the forest floor after all this work
Które były prawidłowe?
Conventional @2:09
не подходит если направление падения не соответствует начальному наклону ствола. смотрел и содрогался. только домкрат.
Для вкея все вырезы были почти одинаковы
Кто мне объяснит зачем с боков срезать ствол?
Скорее для наглядности.
Wo sind die Splintschnitte
Занивљив видео
А ещё покажите как правильно посадить дерево.
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Great fantasy ,you can be happy to find some one who pay you for a show which have nothing to do with a professional job.Great compliments at all 😀
Интересно, кто-нибудь когда то пробовал сидеть на верху ствола когда дерево пилили 😂
Да. Белки птицы. Спроси у них, как оно.😂
@@razumposvyaweniy8247 хорошо 🤣
Jak dobry pilarz to 🌲 dobrze ścięte
Лесогуб!
are these trees pine ? will this technique work on hardwoods like iron bark ?
appreciate your skill !!
These are mainly spruce. Hard wood behaves differently, but most of the techniques will work
O tu i sodinaj auginaj ?
Nie każde drzewo ścinamy tą samą metodą zależy to od ukształtowania terenu grubości pnia ale w zadnym nie pokazałeś chodźby nawet skrucenia zawiasy a to też ma duży wpływ na kontrolowany upadek ścinanego drzewa
Дерево хочет жить..
А ты думал,их выращивают,чтобы любоваться ими)?Всё в природе играет свою роль и задачу.
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Thank you sir!
Ничего сложного тут нет
Very nice. I wish it was a little slower
Slow the playback speed in RUclips…
в своё время(90-е) работал в ЛЕСУ,(пришлось) приходилось валить -пила ХУСКВАРНА-242-,УРАЛ!!!!!!! и я вижу что тот новое для меня ,и что то вполне тривиальное.Однако иногда "извращения" этого ВАЛЬЩИКА!!! -банально ВРЕДНЫ для обычного человека
Не увидел разницы. Тем более деревья несложные, и так стоят под наклоном. Или автор использует домкрат.
Как положить дерево чтоб оно падало медленно,самый контролируемый спил
От породы зависит сильно! Большинство показанных способов для твёрдых пород очень опасны. А так, вторым показанным методом подпиливай медленно смотря за вершиной. Либо есть ещё метод вертикальных прорезов(где-то в сети есть но не помню как точно называется, суть в увеличении числа шарниров), но он на твёрдых породах тоже опасен.
Undercuts are only 20% of information required for tree falling. Tree lean, wind, limb factors, and influence of other trees is the 60% of the knowledge. 20% is all the other stuff like species, rot, insect damage, and other influences.
Why cutting sides of tree ?
In order to see the cut and the blade better
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK oh ok, I though its for tree to fall easier in that direciton
За таку порчу ділового дерева, мене лісник вигнав би без оплати у три шиї
О_о
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You make the hinches way to thick.
Thank's for showing!
And you can’t spell.
If you were using a machine to push alll these trees shown , the cuts are useless . Let us see you cut a tree where houses and power lines are around . Any boso can cut a tree in the forest .
And then you wouldn’t be a lumberjack in the first place
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK You would cry if you had to fall a tree in the middle of 2 houses
You are not healing me by making me smile.
@@stefanmeyers2808you’re a grown as man , shutcho silly as up
What's conspicuously missing is a brief explanation of when a given type of cut is warranted and in what manner the trees consequently fall. Only the rate of fall seems to vary. I've operated a tree service for ten years and I find this video to be rather useless, as it is. Kill the music and add a narration and then you'll have something.
постанова какая-то. когда дерево падает, нужно бежать за 50 метров - пришибёт! а на видео ложится спокойно, что-то здесь не так!
you are cheating using a tool to push the trees over. This deprives the tree of the ability to fall pursuant to the cut method alone.
Yup pretty descriptive,
Así también cae la humanidad por depredación que estupidez!!!
Your pushing the tree over with that pole! Let's see you not use that and use some wedges. This is stupid your pushing them over. 😂
Cry me a river.
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