I imagine tank doomfist was competitive when there was six player teams. The class rework must've happened before they reduced the player count but forgot to balance him to be able to be the only tank on a team The alternative is that Blizzard's balance team seriously thought this DF could compete with Zarya or Reinhardt
I understand why his block can't cancel all damage, with how mobile he can be, but he has to be able to cancel out sleep and hooks. If they don't want him immune to CC, those abilities could cancel his block without him getting hit with the effects of the ability
The most likely option is they were just terrified of making Doom genuinely good in any capacity because people have non-stop cried about his punch ever since he came out even when he was solid F tier. The sad reality is that balance doesn't matter in the slightest and these decisions are being made exclusively based on who cries the loudest. It's the same reason Sombra got absolutely dumpstered this last patch to a state substantially weaker than she was in OW1 despite the fact that Sombra play was already on the downswing anyway. Just people crying about "it's not fun!" as if they genuinely believe it's "fun" for the other guy when they play Genji or something and delete them by facemashing shurikens in 0.1s.
@@Warlockhound He wasn't even really "good" then he just was better than the dogshit he is now and people hadn't had enough time playing against him to realize how easily he gets shut down. The only reason the slow got removed was because they were still pushing for as little CC as possible. Even if they gave him back the slow now he'd still be by far the weakest tank in the game.
@@iminyourwalls3698 i mean, there are a couple. sym, soldier, sojourn, torb, uhh........ umm.. actually, thats about it i guess. every other dps requires some kind of skill. i was expecting to type out a huge list but now that i think about it there arent a lot of braindead dps heros
Crazy thought, what if they replaced dooms block, with a grab, where it grabs an enemy in direct proximity and they take the oncoming damage as a shield
If you are having fun with punchbot tankfist, imagine if you had saddled up for trying some of his old rollouts. So impractical, but felt absolutely godlike when landed
@@boomer_69 blizzard has described that ramattra is going to be a poking character, which is not like doom, who is mobile and focuses more on crowd control (i don't really know about that) i don't really know if blizzard is really accurate though, as i've heard many people have a problem with ramattra being called a tempo tank and apparently they described sigma's playstyle wrong in some way that i don't remember
As much as I love watching Punch, hearing his voice over game chat in Overwatch 2 would be absolutely annoying. It's perfect for getting someone tilted mid game when you're losing. 😂
What they need to do to fix Doom is the following : His current ULT ability should be a regular ability with a high cooldown timer, say roughly 25 seconds but it doesn't do any damage just knocks people back. His new ultimate ability should be him punching the ground 3 times in succession with his fist , the first punch within closer range does a ton of damage and the 2nd range of punch less and the 3rd even less (this would work as a radius , each increasing by every punch with damage fall off) . Doomfist will be taking less damage while using this ability as well. By adding this new ult and making his old ult a new ability in his kit this would add more versatility in his role. I hope people see this comment as i've had great response to this idea, can only hope it catches on and the right person sees this ! Cheers everyone =)
I actually just went from g4 to p5 last night only posting Doom. He's weak, yes. But if you post aggressive enough the enemy team just gets annoyed and focuses you
Not an issue when ur playin in Silver / Gold 🤣 we’re going for 2 tanks and 2 heals most of the games with a single dps (sometimes he became the third tank or healer so …)
Hi! I really liked the video and I was in the Hollywood game and honestly you should have clearly won but you just lost because of your heal in any case gg to you and the video is really well edited I like it a lot!
As a fellow doom one trick. I feel like if they tweaked his shotgun damage up a little. And made his low charge punches move him more and do slightly more damage his viability would be good. Doom is a really powerful flanker n cc tank his only issue I find is that to fully utilize his kit u have to be high tier at hitting his shotgun shots
@@thenegativesiders4022 They need to increase his punch damage, change his shield to something like dva has where he can bring it up anytime but there's a time limit for how long he can have it, buff his health to 550, if that's too much 500, increase the power he gets from blocking projectiles for a stronger punch, increase hit ult damage for the outer damage, and give him slightly more shields if they want him to be in the same tier as these op meta tanks rn. Doomfist is so lowballed by blizzard rn it's ridiculous
To me hes not completely bad, Its just about learning combos and hitting punches and knuckle shots, His ult is very garbo though. Edit: He also has many niche uses that people don't seem to know; With a Punch he cancels Moria Ult, With a Punch you can stop sigma absorb, Punching a reign shield opens reign up for damage for a second + Saving people from punching charging reign, Punching Zarya Bubble I /think/ cancels it, But it definitely seems to do something as I win 80% against a Zarya, Punching a Hog as he hooks a team mate knocks him away for a clean shot, Blocking explosive ults are really useful, Especially Dva as is also Knocks Dva out of calling Mech, And a punch Cancels Mercy Revive. There may be more but knowing these makes him way more useful. I think punch stops Hog Healing too?
I blame doom picks bc hes not a good tank, good hero, but he isn't too helpful for the team, he kinda runs in and throws the team around and then we left without a tank
Dooms Just gotta learn to charge back to healers when low, He is super useful for disrupting the enemy team and putting all eyes on him while dps tries to take the enemy out while he does that.
Bro i dont know. Have watched this Video like everytime im free (so baisically every 30min cause i only watch yt). Enjoing the OW content with punchs Personality
doom is the biggest piece of dogshit now I struggled having 100 hours could not achieve anything worst tank kit and design ever disgusting to play and a pain
Slam is the biggest thing that makes doom bad. 50 damage is so useless. If you land right on someone with spam it should deal at least 100 damage but if you land farther away with spam it deals less and then there should be a middle ground. Block is also just such a bad ability. Block should work like kiriko cleanse instead. Block is supposed to be a reactionary ability but you still get punished. It should have a 1 second duration but you take no damage like kiriko cleanse.
@@GobbygoblinExcept it's not skill issue almost every player above diamond agrees that he is the worst tank to pick. He gets hard countered by almost every tank and his kit isn't at all viable in this new 5v5 gameplay scenario. His power block serves no purpose being there other than being a stall move and his ult is atrociously terrible.
I imagine tank doomfist was competitive when there was six player teams. The class rework must've happened before they reduced the player count but forgot to balance him to be able to be the only tank on a team
The alternative is that Blizzard's balance team seriously thought this DF could compete with Zarya or Reinhardt
I understand why his block can't cancel all damage, with how mobile he can be, but he has to be able to cancel out sleep and hooks.
If they don't want him immune to CC, those abilities could cancel his block without him getting hit with the effects of the ability
The most likely option is they were just terrified of making Doom genuinely good in any capacity because people have non-stop cried about his punch ever since he came out even when he was solid F tier. The sad reality is that balance doesn't matter in the slightest and these decisions are being made exclusively based on who cries the loudest. It's the same reason Sombra got absolutely dumpstered this last patch to a state substantially weaker than she was in OW1 despite the fact that Sombra play was already on the downswing anyway. Just people crying about "it's not fun!" as if they genuinely believe it's "fun" for the other guy when they play Genji or something and delete them by facemashing shurikens in 0.1s.
@@MuffinPirateX its all about appealing to the majority player base (Plat and under) even tho its a competitive game.
he was good in the first beta before they removed the slow on his slam wich made him go from strong to weak in 1 nerf
@@Warlockhound He wasn't even really "good" then he just was better than the dogshit he is now and people hadn't had enough time playing against him to realize how easily he gets shut down. The only reason the slow got removed was because they were still pushing for as little CC as possible. Even if they gave him back the slow now he'd still be by far the weakest tank in the game.
its always the worst characters that have so much "fun value"
It’s kinda dumb…then you got the brain dead ones…sym, bas, tracer…many more…almost the whole roster.
Sometimes…idk
Wrecking ball 100%
@@RandoMeanMan Man you are huffing that copium
@@ThisHandleIsAlreadyTaken839 fr. If anything the only brain dead dps is probably sojourn, and even then I rarely find myself complaining about them
@@iminyourwalls3698 i mean, there are a couple. sym, soldier, sojourn, torb, uhh........ umm.. actually, thats about it i guess. every other dps requires some kind of skill. i was expecting to type out a huge list but now that i think about it there arent a lot of braindead dps heros
13:15 hearing hog giggle as you punch him into the after life 💀
Its killing me at 3am
Something about that dude with the strong accent saying “I’m not in danger skyler I am the danger” really got me
Crazy thought, what if they replaced dooms block, with a grab, where it grabs an enemy in direct proximity and they take the oncoming damage as a shield
I love this
they should really hire you as a dev
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!
basically human shield
If junk gets traps he should have this
is no one gonna talk about how he just flung that roadhog a 13:17 💀💀
I miss when his ult used to do serious damage
now it heals the enemies 💀
even when it had more damage it was still hard to get value... not sure what the idea behind nerfing it was
I miss when he did serious damage in general… or any damage…
For whatever reason the devs decided that they didn’t want doom to do as much damage as before, even tho hog can literally 1 shot with his primary.
@@tristenatro2045 and lets not forget rein and dvas ult can literally wipe the whole enemy team while doom struggles to get 10 damage with his ult.
I know he may not be the “strongest”pick but I’ve had the most fun playing doomfist out of all the tanks tbh
If you are having fun with punchbot tankfist, imagine if you had saddled up for trying some of his old rollouts. So impractical, but felt absolutely godlike when landed
Doomfist is going to be more irrelevant when Ramattra comes out.
Ramattra seems to be slow frontline brawler, whole Doom is a flanker. Different purposes
@@Terkiaz says who 😅
@@boomer_69 wdym
@@Terkiaz flanker? Doom is more of an acrobat than a flanker 😂
@@boomer_69 blizzard has described that ramattra is going to be a poking character, which is not like doom, who is mobile and focuses more on crowd control (i don't really know about that)
i don't really know if blizzard is really accurate though, as i've heard many people have a problem with ramattra being called a tempo tank and apparently they described sigma's playstyle wrong in some way that i don't remember
As much as I love watching Punch, hearing his voice over game chat in Overwatch 2 would be absolutely annoying. It's perfect for getting someone tilted mid game when you're losing. 😂
Idk what you're talking about, it's way better than your average Hispanic/Arabic/French gibberish your teammates say over mic.
@ferdithetank7535 bro I'm arab and the amount of toxic Arabs in ow2 is just insane
He is actually good, you just need a pocket mercy, a Zenyatta, 2 very skilled dps teammates and pray for your team to carry u
What they need to do to fix Doom is the following :
His current ULT ability should be a regular ability with a high cooldown timer, say roughly 25 seconds but it doesn't do any damage just knocks people back.
His new ultimate ability should be him punching the ground 3 times in succession with his fist , the first punch within closer range does a ton of damage and the 2nd range of punch less and the 3rd even less (this would work as a radius , each increasing by every punch with damage fall off) . Doomfist will be taking less damage while using this ability as well.
By adding this new ult and making his old ult a new ability in his kit this would add more versatility in his role.
I hope people see this comment as i've had great response to this idea, can only hope it catches on and the right person sees this ! Cheers everyone =)
who’s ur dealer
I hope to God blizzard doesn't use your idea
Edit: actually that's not a bad idea, anything is better than his dog s*** ult rn
hire bro immediately💀
They demolished my boy
Doomfist became noobfist 😔
doomfist just became fist
We love doomfist when punch plays him 🙏
18:36 top 3 moments before disaster *caught* *real*
I like the op ability where he pushes people a couple feet.
If they gave doomfist waves or a fade, he would be viable .
It would break the game
Have a nice day ThatPunchKid LIVE
I actually just went from g4 to p5 last night only posting Doom. He's weak, yes. But if you post aggressive enough the enemy team just gets annoyed and focuses you
I should specify. I played him and carried the majority of my games
Doomfist isn't even as bad as people say but being the only tank he isn't very usable in most lobbies
Not an issue when ur playin in Silver / Gold 🤣 we’re going for 2 tanks and 2 heals most of the games with a single dps (sometimes he became the third tank or healer so …)
Seeing doomfist gameplay makes me happy
I like the “increase the size of his arm by 5” idea😂
Let's hope Rammatra is the doom fist we should've had.
Yo punch if you ever trying to go higher on buildings with doom use leap then cancel with block .
Fister daddy is so fun, the problem is that he just isn't a tank, he never was.
Role assessment in Blizzard's team has been wacky.
me when fighting doom fist in deathmatch: "how is he this strong!? how many pushups did he do, how many sit ups- WHAT KIND OF JUICE DID HE DRINK"
Hi! I really liked the video and I was in the Hollywood game and honestly you should have clearly won but you just lost because of your heal in any case gg to you and the video is really well edited I like it a lot!
gg man, you rocked! impressive hanzo
miktris les 2 dps étaient en kd négatif bien sûr que nope il gagne pas ça kek
You got carried by your tank honestly
I use doomfist so much, practically the only tank I use. I cannot wait for his buff, but then everyone uses doomfist......
As a fellow doom one trick. I feel like if they tweaked his shotgun damage up a little. And made his low charge punches move him more and do slightly more damage his viability would be good. Doom is a really powerful flanker n cc tank his only issue I find is that to fully utilize his kit u have to be high tier at hitting his shotgun shots
@@thenegativesiders4022 I feel like they should also make the rest of his kit more viable other than just his punch stun/shoot combo.
@@thenegativesiders4022 They need to increase his punch damage, change his shield to something like dva has where he can bring it up anytime but there's a time limit for how long he can have it, buff his health to 550, if that's too much 500, increase the power he gets from blocking projectiles for a stronger punch, increase hit ult damage for the outer damage, and give him slightly more shields if they want him to be in the same tier as these op meta tanks rn. Doomfist is so lowballed by blizzard rn it's ridiculous
8:00 that sound 💀
That Punch " STOP HACKING ME " Kid
13:00 bro I was furious
the issue is that now you need to be awesome af just to be good at doom
To me hes not completely bad, Its just about learning combos and hitting punches and knuckle shots, His ult is very garbo though.
Edit: He also has many niche uses that people don't seem to know; With a Punch he cancels Moria Ult, With a Punch you can stop sigma absorb, Punching a reign shield opens reign up for damage for a second + Saving people from punching charging reign, Punching Zarya Bubble I /think/ cancels it, But it definitely seems to do something as I win 80% against a Zarya, Punching a Hog as he hooks a team mate knocks him away for a clean shot, Blocking explosive ults are really useful, Especially Dva as is also Knocks Dva out of calling Mech, And a punch Cancels Mercy Revive. There may be more but knowing these makes him way more useful.
I think punch stops Hog Healing too?
Ur the reason my comp matches are full of doom fist half of them are throwing too
Doomfist is such a poorly designed tank on almost every conceivable level. He's so much fun to play but his block and ult were so poorly thought out.
I feel like buffing number of any aspect of tank doomfist would make him a lot better
Bro its called a power block but the only power it blocks is the one you would get if you switched to a diffrent tank
3:03 i lost
they could make his block into an arm shield
im waiting until chat perfectly times omegafart with a doom ult
I put 99 Luftbaloons over this and it fit perfectly
Nice strat is to charge fist, punch enemy in to the wall, they will be stunned and finish with your shots.
Thats literally the point of the power punch… everyone does that
Professional Punch Fist. Pretty good.
Yeah this aged well
Doom can't literally one-shot tracers with the charged punch...
I'm straight but those moans had me doubting for a second
The cream of the crop
Ok but, BIG FIST WHOLE TEAM PUCHER FEEL GOOD
3:04 even after vft I can’t sound like that how tf punch
Is that a pro doomfist ?
I blame doom picks bc hes not a good tank, good hero, but he isn't too helpful for the team, he kinda runs in and throws the team around and then we left without a tank
Dooms Just gotta learn to charge back to healers when low, He is super useful for disrupting the enemy team and putting all eyes on him while dps tries to take the enemy out while he does that.
They really neutered black all might
Sneezy was legendary my god
Doom fist rewark is pure "balance over fun" mentality ans i hate it
Not even. It's not even balanced they just shot out his kneecaps to the point he's so weak he can't even be considered a nuisance.
Alternate title STOP HACKING ME
Seriously Blizzard must fire whole balance team and hire people who have at least 1 working braincell.
I think doom fists mele does more damage then his ult and his punches combined
Why are you actually a good doomfist 💀😂
And then I saw ZBRA.
DOOMFIST isn't BAD, the player is just COMPLETE TRASH
I dunno, Zbra seems to do just fine.
Because he is literally one of the best dooms in the world bro
You should play kiriko next
Can we get gear 3 doomfist next update
Depends how you play
Ngl tho doom/bastion outs paired with orisa’s ult is an ez team wipe
if they buff him enough next season he could be so much fun
this comment aged well
@@commandogaming7853 hmm
How about we give doomfist 2 Gauntlets? Lol
And they say
Bro i dont know. Have watched this Video like everytime im free (so baisically every 30min cause i only watch yt). Enjoing the OW content with punchs Personality
Can we have some more battlefield?
Lol where is everyone
Doomfist is strong , in the PVE 🤣
13:15 Roadhog being sent to ohio
"anti fun character"
*Plays doom*
And they say And they say And they say And they say And they say And they say And they say And they say And they say
He got a buff and he’s still TRASH
Why do blizzard have to ruin this game at every opportunity
doom fist is trash, nerf genji
w: noises
I stg Sombras are the most boring players of all time
doom is the biggest piece of dogshit now I struggled having 100 hours could not achieve anything worst tank kit and design ever disgusting to play and a pain
gaming
the first game was so much just for u to only get a coulle kills
Slam is the biggest thing that makes doom bad. 50 damage is so useless. If you land right on someone with spam it should deal at least 100 damage but if you land farther away with spam it deals less and then there should be a middle ground.
Block is also just such a bad ability. Block should work like kiriko cleanse instead. Block is supposed to be a reactionary ability but you still get punished. It should have a 1 second duration but you take no damage like kiriko cleanse.
Doom op pls nerf him blizzard 😢
doom isnt a bad hero imo, just needs a tiny buff and he'll be great
Needs more shields upon hitting and stun prevention when blocking
He needs a massive buff what are you on? He's absolute trash compared to other tanks. There's a reason he's solid F tier no matter who you ask.
@@MuffinPirateX skill issue
@@Gobbygoblin Low IQ issue
@@GobbygoblinExcept it's not skill issue almost every player above diamond agrees that he is the worst tank to pick. He gets hard countered by almost every tank and his kit isn't at all viable in this new 5v5 gameplay scenario. His power block serves no purpose being there other than being a stall move and his ult is atrociously terrible.
they cried swap last patch this one they cry op cant win brother
I see
why doesnt bro go back to the og channel
even trash can still overwhelm anybody and everybody if not dealt with correctly
Well I’ll be dammed
go meet zbra
Bro
Fist
search up ZBRA punch :)
Then you look up Zbra