British Railways: Goodbye To Steam aka Railway Modernisation (1958) | British Pathé

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  • Опубликовано: 12 апр 2014
  • This archive footage from 1958 depicts British Railways journey to modernisation and the transition away from steam-powered trains.
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    (FILM ID:1549.07)
    Full title reads: "Goodbye To Steam".
    Intertitle reads: "British Railways meet the challenge of the age of abundant power".
    Angle shot, railway engine going past camera. GV Outside one of the large London Railway stations showing railway lines and train coming out of station. CU Man in signal box, pan to show him pulling levers. CU Signal going up. GV Train coming towards camera. GV Steam train. GV Aerial shots steam train. CU Man filming from plane. CU man in plane fitting equipment and then giving thumb's up sign. GV Aerial shot, railway lines. CU Man filming from plane. Steam train going along line. SV Draughtsmen in office. CU Men looking through magnifier at a plan. CU Magnified picture of plan, zoom to show Railway chiefs seated round table with plan, among them is Sir Philip Warter. SV Elevated, railway chiefs looking at plan. CU One of the railway executives. SV Man with model of section of railway line which he places on the table and the railway executives study it. CU Sign reading "Kent Coast Electrification Widening to Provide Four Tracks", pan to show railway line with only two tracks. GV Kent Coast line with men on bridge. SV Bridge with surveyor. CU Surveyor looking through theodolite. GV Tracking shot of men working. GV Men working at side of railway line with clouds of smoke coming from wood. CU New diesel engine. CU Sir Brian Robertson talking to train driver. CU People watching. CU Sir Brian Robertson blowing whistle. CU Int. diesel engine with driver operating controls. SV Diesel train moving out of station. CU Driver of diesel train. CU. Sir Brian Robertson sitting in carriage. LV Through window of diesel cab as train enters tunnel. SV Three engines on lines. CU Front of one of the engines with plate reading "Cornish Riviera Express". CU Driver. SV Cornish Riviera Express in station. SV Woman taking in washing because smoke is billowing up from railway lines beside her garden. GV Cornish Riviera Express coming towards camera.
    CU Front of steam train "The Bristolian". SV along top of engine as blows off steam. CU Hand pulling chain. CU valve. GV Platform. CU shovelling coal. GV As train goes along. CU Driver of train. CU Driver. CU Fireman. CU Fire with coal being shovelled. SV Looking over coal tender. SV From driver's cab of train going under bridge and out the other side. CU Driver. GV From driver's cab of railway lines with another steam train. SV Int. class for instruction of diesel engine drivers. CU Lecturer talks about metal object. CU Men looking at machinery. SV Royal Scot in station. CU Driver of Royal Scot. GV Activities on platform in which Royal Scot is standing. GV Royal Scot leaving station. GV Building with sign, "English Electric Co. Ltd. Preston". GV Int. of workshop showing men working on armatures. GV Ext. of building with "Vulcan Locomotives" painted on wall. GV Int. of workshop showing men working on railway engines. CU Man working inside railway engine. GV Workshop. SV Diesel train in station. CU Driver of diesel. GV railway lines in front of train as it moves along. SV Int. dining car in diesel train with attendant pouring coffee. GV Looking through cab window of railway lines in front of train as it goes under bridge and straight past station. CU Glass panel in door with "York Signal Box, Strictly Private", door opens. SV Man sitting at control panel of box, he reaches over to controls. CU Man's hands working controls. CU Plan on wall showing different lines and points. CU Hand pushing buttons. CU Signals. CU Point on lines. GV Steam train along lines. CU Train in museum. CU Compartment of old train. SV Ancient train "Locomotion 1828". SV Diesel Locomotive. CU "Deltic" written on side. GV Deltic. GV Train in station. Various shots in Deltic carriage. SV Coal trucks. SV Railway worker attaching pipe to train. GV Calder Hall Nuclear / Atomic Power station. GV Electrical pylons and cables. GV Diesel train "Sir Brian Robertson" in platform with crowds. GV Crowds. SV "Sir Brian Robertson" unveiled by Mr Grand, General Manager of the Western Region of British Railways. SV Crowd. SV Sir Brian Robertson by train. CU Sign "Sir Brian Robertson". GV The "Sir Brian Robertson" leaving Paddington Station. SV Steam train letting out smoke. CU Signals. GV Steam train. CU Train over the points. GV steam train leaving clouds of smoke.
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Комментарии • 312

  • @keithlemon457
    @keithlemon457 3 года назад +80

    And 6 years later Beeching cut the heart out the entire railway system, the impact of which is still being felt today, nearly 60 years later.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад +3

      Could be worse CIE was made to pay for being loss making note there is no money in public transport

    • @bobtudbury8505
      @bobtudbury8505 2 года назад +5

      beeching cut nothing, it was the labour party that closed the lines

    • @michaelhunt4445
      @michaelhunt4445 2 года назад +10

      @@bobtudbury8505 It was E. Marples (a road maker) who commissioned the Beeching report so although you may be technically right, it was the Tory party who started the ball rolling.

    • @bobtudbury8505
      @bobtudbury8505 2 года назад +3

      @@michaelhunt4445 zzzz yes we know .to create a report .BR could not even tell you how many staff it empolyed, something had to happen. (i'm glad the roads were built, the car gave me and my family total independant travel and freedom like you enjoy today. ) when the report was complete labour did not close all on beechings report but did close hundreds of miles not in there!!! ....after the culling ( the torys stopped it in 1970) labour then gave beeching an award....the whole thing was labour, no one else

    • @richardsawyer5428
      @richardsawyer5428 Год назад

      From what I seen and heard I feel that Beeching was just a fig leaf to cover what was already decided. The manipulation of statistics and "research" to give those that commission his report what they wanted to hear. A "Beeching" in some guise has probably existed since ancient times.

  • @robertneave2669
    @robertneave2669 2 года назад +39

    Thank God for these British Pathe short films - a priceless window on the past aren't they?
    I have a few compilation DVDs of these - fantastic!
    Keep Smiling Everyone 😃

  • @joshuaslocombe6087
    @joshuaslocombe6087 8 лет назад +150

    1:53 THAT IS CLEARLY AN ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVE!

    • @kennztube
      @kennztube 4 года назад +2

      Joshua Slocombe no it was duel powered loco, if you look closely the wasn’t a pantograph line.

    • @MajesticTrains
      @MajesticTrains 4 года назад +30

      @@kennztube its not, its an 1500v EM2 electric locomotive built for the woodhead route. Its fully electric. There has been some kind of mistake in the film there.

    • @RoadCone411
      @RoadCone411 4 года назад +2

      Ken Brickley Majestic is correct. I don’t believe they had dual mode electric-diesels back then but either way those are Woodhead electrics.

    • @SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
      @SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 года назад +4

      @@MajesticTrains agreed! Pure DC power there....

    • @Andrea.583
      @Andrea.583 4 года назад +3

      @@MajesticTrains 27000 can still be seen at Butterley and one of her sisters is in occasional use in The Netherlands.

  • @robharding4028
    @robharding4028 3 года назад +23

    The crime of the century, There was something magical about steam. We should have kept it, and got rid of beecham,

  • @herzglass
    @herzglass 2 месяца назад +2

    Everybody talking about the Diesel-Electric mixup - I found 4:24 even more amusing. "No smoke, no dirt." while the whole compartment is smoking cigarettes.

  • @robertpetts9482
    @robertpetts9482 4 года назад +40

    In 1958 I was working at English Electric and may well be in part of the film, where they were winding armatures.

    • @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
      @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 3 года назад

      Cool, man.if you were there, you’d remember

    • @johnsplayworld2402
      @johnsplayworld2402 3 года назад +1

      You used to work in the railway about the starting of diesels in the age of 20?

    • @johnsplayworld2402
      @johnsplayworld2402 3 года назад +1

      1958?

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад +1

      If he did work at English electric it would be working in an engineering firm not the railway.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 года назад +35

    "No smoke", he says at 4:26. Not if you were sitting in that buffet car with that table of vicars.
    And "no smoke" referring to DMUs must raise a wry smile.

    • @lawrencelewis8105
      @lawrencelewis8105 3 года назад

      I was at a patio at the end of the Gloucestershire and Warwickshire heritage railway a few years ago. There were "no smoking" signs on the patio. Less than ten feet away was the turntable where the steam locomotives were turned around.

    • @ncs8730
      @ncs8730 Месяц назад

      Relatively. Relatively, as everything is.

  • @gerry343
    @gerry343 5 лет назад +18

    4:25 'More tea, vicar?'

  • @richarddutchholland4780
    @richarddutchholland4780 4 года назад +35

    My dad left school as a 15 year old boy and he joined GWR as a fireman out of Cardiff.... It broke his heart when they phase out steam. He had the chance to go to South Africa with the driver, they were looking for drivers and firemen to emigrate, but he stayed home and left the rails for good

    • @JosephStalin-hv8en
      @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад +3

      Wow so your dad is a fireman in a steam locomotives

    • @TankEngine75
      @TankEngine75 3 года назад +3

      Your dad could've just volunteered on a Heritage Railway

    • @richarddutchholland4780
      @richarddutchholland4780 3 года назад +7

      @@TankEngine75 I believe heritage railways came much later after the demise of steam. He went to work in Staffordshire with his dad (my grandfather)

    • @TankEngine75
      @TankEngine75 3 года назад +3

      @@richarddutchholland4780 Nice

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 2 года назад +1

      Why does he not like diesels?

  • @CullenRick
    @CullenRick 2 года назад +7

    As others have said, I loved them talking about diesels while showing an electic!

  • @qmsarge
    @qmsarge 8 лет назад +126

    At 2:10 a train is shown as to be leaving with "Diesel Locomotive". But it does seems to have pantographs and looks like an Electric locomotive.

    • @barrymorris7856
      @barrymorris7856 8 лет назад +28

      +Sachin Perinthalakkat You`re correct . It`s a BR Class 77 ....

    • @Garbageguitarist
      @Garbageguitarist 4 года назад +1

      It’s a dual powered loco I think

    • @iainstenhouse8399
      @iainstenhouse8399 4 года назад +5

      @@Garbageguitarist No DC only

    • @MrJhonnyJackson
      @MrJhonnyJackson 4 года назад

      Try to listen to what he says before commenting. The diesel engines power a dynamo that creates electricity that runs the locomotive

    • @iainstenhouse8399
      @iainstenhouse8399 4 года назад +5

      @@MrJhonnyJackson we are referring to the engine shown at the specific timestamp, which is not a diesel-electric locomotive, rather a 1500v DC Electric locomotive (Class 77).

  • @binbagful
    @binbagful 5 лет назад +307

    Makes me laugh. 1958 and the aim is to make British Railways the best in the world. What went wrong then?.

    • @nathanlucas6465
      @nathanlucas6465 5 лет назад +30

      It would be interesting to know what the guys working on the 'improvements' back then would think of where we've got to today

    • @zeeteavathepipe3184
      @zeeteavathepipe3184 4 года назад +34

      The Germans and the French and even the Italians managed to make better rail transport.

    • @stevenbanaan
      @stevenbanaan 4 года назад +24

      the fact that no one bothered to make high speed lines to and from economically vital cities.
      for example: in japan the shinkhansen high speed trains fixed the economy.

    • @MarioStahl1983
      @MarioStahl1983 4 года назад +33

      Very easy: Instead of electrification most lines were dieselized. A historic mistake AND THEY KNEW IT!! They simply didn't care.

    • @DisleyDavid
      @DisleyDavid 4 года назад +18

      binbagful Arguably British Rail was as good as the best in Europe when the Government sold off the system. If investment had continued rather than giving the money to foreign operators.

  • @superbracey
    @superbracey Год назад +8

    I wasn't around for the steam age. But despite the romanticism for the era, I bet a lot of drivers were happy to give up standing on an open, draughty footplate, to instead sit in enclosed comfort, with relative quiet and heating controls at their fingertips.

    • @ncs8730
      @ncs8730 Месяц назад +1

      You are right, that's the difference between steam locos fans and drivers. Yet I love steam. (yeah I'm not a driver :)) )

  • @brianhepke7182
    @brianhepke7182 2 месяца назад +1

    What a great piece of history. A pity the railways didn't live up to the narrators vision of "best in the world" all these years later.
    It was pretty obvious that steam wouldn't have survived much longer after this was made. To maintain and run a steam locomotive is a labour of love. The drivers were passionate and proud of their positions on the footplate.... dedicated to their profession.
    Watching from the sidelines today it seems they have to be coerced into doing the job. No regard for passengers who support the railways, only their pay packets.

  • @TheHatMusic
    @TheHatMusic 4 года назад +24

    I believe that the carriage at 5:32 is now preserved on the Severn Valley, and was intended to rival the airline industry for commuter travel between major cities. The seating was built to the same sort of style. Shame they didn't catch on really, they're pretty comfortable.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад +1

      They look interesting

    • @TheHatMusic
      @TheHatMusic 8 месяцев назад

      @@hoolydooly5072 well, no. I did not. And I did not help preserve that carriage, I simply pointed out that is has been preserved. Those carriages could be hauled by diesel or electric locomotives, so they would simply be comfortable carriages. I don’t see why you have decided that I am somehow to blame for climate change given that I was born almost 30 years after this video.
      I’d quote some figures on how negligible the heritage rail sector is to climate change (and there is a lot of information on this), but I don’t expect you want to know.
      Yes, steam locomotives did cause pollution. As did the large amount of coal burned in industry. Yes, coal dust does get into everything. It’s filthy and sticks like nothing else. But, it did come to an end, and the railways are a lot cleaner now.
      But to decide I’m somehow to blame for them being preserved is absurd. You picked up a comment I wrote 3 years ago, and have chosen to have a go at me for it.
      There has to be a better use of your time, surely?

  • @MikeGMcDermott
    @MikeGMcDermott 2 года назад +6

    Apart from the BR Southern Region's third rail lines in the South of England, the Manchester to Sheffield (via Woodhead) line was the first all-electric main line when it was electrified at 1,500v DC overhead wires in 1954. Sadly the Woodhead line was to be host to its last passenger train in 1970, with the line closing to coal and other freight trains in 1981. Technology had moved on, more so as from 1959 all UK lines to be electrified with overhead wiring were to be electrified with the 25kV AC system, something which BR insisted was impractical for the Woodhead line.

  • @stotheh
    @stotheh Год назад +4

    Oh I hope those aerial phots are archived and accessible somewhere. What a trove!

  • @steamfans
    @steamfans 9 лет назад +75

    A problem with coal burning steam locomotives was the smoke they added to smog, a word coined by a London newspaper. Newcastle coal was very dirty (high sulfur content)

    • @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
      @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 3 года назад

      Mixed with an incoming thick fog. Hence “ Smog”

    • @JosephStalin-hv8en
      @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад

      No they will emstead use charcoal or scrap wood or paper

    • @catthecommentbothunter6890
      @catthecommentbothunter6890 3 года назад +2

      Why did you hate steam drilling oil under the sea and damaging wild life so if i have a railway i will choice the steam that that stupid deisels

    • @herzikkimolog
      @herzikkimolog 3 года назад +2

      @@catthecommentbothunter6890 i wouldnt say that, while burning coal is highly pollutive for atmosphere. Diesel locos are preferred for being more powerful, efficient and time saving

    • @catthecommentbothunter6890
      @catthecommentbothunter6890 2 года назад +1

      @@herzikkimolog yeah yeah diesels can have smoke to and can have more carbon dioxide so shut up Diesel entusiats because diesel locomotive is dirty,oily and ineffcient

  • @medwaymodelrailway7129
    @medwaymodelrailway7129 3 года назад +1

    Great new video .Thanks very much.

  • @anilchauisms
    @anilchauisms 7 лет назад +107

    Steam - dirty and inefficient - but so romantic!

    • @JOYOUSONEX
      @JOYOUSONEX 4 года назад +15

      Agree totally. The steam blasting in your face, the smell of the coal generated smoke, the roar of that noisy engine are memories that I shall never forget.

    • @who9387
      @who9387 4 года назад +7

      @@JOYOUSONEX Grew up in the 50's - the glorious age of steam !! WTF ? Don't people realise that every time the train went uner a railway bridge all the "steam" aka dirty choking soot filled the carriage and I remember every time there was a tunnel someone would leap up and shut the windows. While I appreciate the nostalgia when seeing one in the distance now with the smoke billowing out, was a bleeding nightmare to travel in. You only had to take a short journey for your clothes to smell of the smoke.

    • @jonathanj.7344
      @jonathanj.7344 4 года назад +3

      I miss the "clickety-click, "clickety-click "clickety-click" and watching the looping telegraph wires out of the window. i wasn't very old at the time.

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 4 года назад +2

      @ Who ?
      Exactly.
      Most large underground stations like Grand Central in NYC were electrified and used electric locomotives because venting all of that soot, smoke, and steam would be impractical.
      It’s Hollywood smoke machines that make it seem romantic.

    • @who9387
      @who9387 4 года назад +4

      @@jonathanj.7344 The clickety-click went out with continuous welded rails, was far too easy to nod off with that constant rhythm.

  • @landmarkrealtors3278
    @landmarkrealtors3278 Год назад +1

    Yet another nice video from British Pathe 👍

  • @Shark30006
    @Shark30006 2 месяца назад +1

    It was anticipated that mainline steam would continue to see operations until as late as the 1990s and the very latest

  • @waleedarif6740
    @waleedarif6740 2 года назад +3

    British Railways is much better now but it will never be as stylish, colourful, tasteful and popular as it once was.

  • @androo4519
    @androo4519 2 месяца назад +1

    'The aim is to make British Railways the best in the world.' That went well then.

  • @lukeslocomotives
    @lukeslocomotives Год назад +3

    Featured Locomotives:
    •BR English Class 55 Co-Co 'DP1 Deltic'
    •S&DR Stephenson 0-4-0 'Locomotion'
    •GNR Stirling Class A1 4-2-2 '1'
    •BR British Rail Engineering Limited Class 42 B-B 'D800 Sir Brian Robertson'
    •GWR Collett 6000 Class 4-6-0 '6013 King Henry VIII'
    •GWR Collett 5098 Class 4-6-0 '7010 Avondale Castle'
    •LM&SR Ivatt Class D16/1 Co-Co '10000'
    •LM&SR Ivatt Class D16/1 Co-Co '10001'
    •BR British Rail Engineering Limited Class EM2 Co-Co '27000'
    •LM&SR Stanier Class 5MT 4-6-0 '45191'
    •L&NER Gresley Class A4 4-6-2 '60008 Dwight D. Eisenhower'
    •L&NER Peppercorn Class A1 4-6-2 '60155 Borderer'
    •L&NER Thompson Class B1 4-6-0 '61152'
    •L&NER Gresley Class J39/1 0-6-0 '64753'

    • @ncs8730
      @ncs8730 Месяц назад +1

      "Dwight D. Eisenhower"! I tried to find it out but in vain. Thanks!

  • @rshvkkt91
    @rshvkkt91 4 года назад +19

    And then came the Beeching Axe.

  • @shielahowcroft9852
    @shielahowcroft9852 3 года назад +2

    My father was a steam loco driver at Ninivah loco shed Holbeck leeds drove a steam loco from skipton to Carlisle with a delicious engine on the back to see if they could make it up the steep inclines.there was a French loco newspaper reporter on the foot plate

  • @PhilPage227
    @PhilPage227 4 года назад +3

    Loved it.

  • @stephenbennett3126
    @stephenbennett3126 3 года назад +1

    awesome film.

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart 9 лет назад +30

    The "Diesel" at 1:58 is not a diesel at all but an ex LNER Sheffield - Woodhead - Manchester electrification project 1500DC Co'Co' electric loco of the E27000 Class later reclassed 77 by BR and the entire class later still sold to Netherlands Railways NS and reclassed 1500. The overhead equipment can clearly be seen in the shot of the train entering the tunnel (2:20).
    So this is wrong: CU New diesel engine. CU Sir Brian Robertson talking to train driver. CU People watching. CU Sir Brian Robertson blowing whistle. CU Int. diesel engine with driver operating controls. SV Diesel train moving out of station. CU Driver of diesel train. CU. Sir Brian Robertson sitting in carriage. LV Through window of diesel cab as train enters tunnel.

  • @Reddsoldier
    @Reddsoldier 2 года назад +2

    Crazy to think that the locomotives that this programme created are still cutting about today in one form or another.

  • @swiftymorgan5064
    @swiftymorgan5064 9 лет назад +3

    Very interesting

  • @louisholmes6961
    @louisholmes6961 10 месяцев назад +2

    The steam engines of Sodor didn’t have to worry about being replaced, even when diesels joined their workforce. However they felt sorry for their mainland cousins, especially Gordon, who lost his brothers to scrap..except for one.

    • @itzmespencer
      @itzmespencer 6 месяцев назад

      Lol Sodor is in another universe

    • @louisholmes6961
      @louisholmes6961 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@itzmespencer hey, don’t judge me just because I’m a fan of a famous franchise.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 года назад +5

    York PSB was an amazing piece of late 1940s technology, but it's a bit rich to claim it at part of BR's modernization scheme since it was built by the LNER and commissioned about 1948, when BR had only just come into being,

  • @Masire0009
    @Masire0009 3 года назад +10

    Steam trains are by far the best but I will admit the early diesels are pretty cool..

    • @JosephStalin-hv8en
      @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад +2

      Yeah like the British Rail 11001 diesel locomotive the wheels are like in the steam locomotives but power by Diesel

    • @bennickss
      @bennickss 2 года назад

      @@JosephStalin-hv8en are you referring to 10100, the 4-8-4 diesel locomotive built in 1950?

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@bennickss
      You could say that about both really.

    • @lennoxschannel7484
      @lennoxschannel7484 8 месяцев назад

      Both of them are the best!!!!

  • @bigmanted9864
    @bigmanted9864 Год назад +1

    3:43 “eventually the mainlines will be electrified”
    Meanwhile the midland lads waiting for electrification in 2023:

  • @VRDenshaOtaku
    @VRDenshaOtaku 8 лет назад +2

    at 5:37 the VR did that with the B class in 1951

  • @dniwu3878
    @dniwu3878 Год назад +1

    4:29 on on on!

  • @John-no1my
    @John-no1my 10 лет назад +2

    Hindsight, the premier exact science. York museum features towards the end, the film having proclaimed the wonder of the western diesel hydraulics and others now resident.

    • @jackwalker9100
      @jackwalker9100 5 лет назад

      So between 1:55 and 2:20, the 'advantages' of diesel locomotives is described.... while showing a 1500 vdc electric. And you get the impression that this plummy narrator really can't tell the difference.

  • @EE12CSVT
    @EE12CSVT 11 месяцев назад +1

    Well, the first 'diesel engine' they featured was electric, from the Woodhead line

  • @Don_Camillo
    @Don_Camillo 4 года назад +19

    2:27 : The role model for the Hogwarts Express 😁

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 3 года назад

      Excuse me?

    • @Vinyl_guy
      @Vinyl_guy 2 года назад +1

      i believe they are referring to the fact that is it is a gwr hall class

    • @bennickss
      @bennickss 2 года назад +1

      @@Vinyl_guy it’s not, it’s a king class, you can tell by the four cylinders and enormous boiler

  • @florjanbrudar692
    @florjanbrudar692 Год назад

    3:37 First two mainline diesel locos and they eventually got scrapped themselves. They're also building a replica of 10000.

  • @jasonl5967
    @jasonl5967 8 лет назад +9

    and what happened to some of the BR network, routes were closed and tracks dug up.

    • @kennztube
      @kennztube 4 года назад +1

      jason long mr Beeching happened.

  • @charlesgault3777
    @charlesgault3777 5 лет назад +14

    Nowadays they use drones in place of airplanes for surveying projects.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 года назад +6

    That commentary is decidedly economical with the truth. "The big diesel engines are gradually replacing the steam loco." This was 1958, when the D200s were first being introduced. Nice clips of 10000/10001 though.

  • @MeisterKiel
    @MeisterKiel Год назад

    Ich mag diese alten Dokus

  • @martm216
    @martm216 4 года назад +5

    They were going 'full steam ahead' with electrification'! Mind, I think that might have been a deliberate pun.

  • @K-Effect
    @K-Effect 3 года назад +7

    The British made some of the most beautiful steam engines in the world. Than turn a 180° and make some of the ugliest diesels. I do think the Deltic is a very good looking locomotive

    • @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
      @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 3 года назад +1

      My favourite is the delightful Mallard series of steam locomotives

    • @bennickss
      @bennickss 2 года назад

      ‘Ugliest’
      *cries in 20, 35, 37, 40, 44/45/46

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 2 года назад +2

      How are diesel
      Engines ugly?

    • @x-fun3149
      @x-fun3149 Год назад

      @@rmgilyard they all look like knobs of butter

    • @lennoxschannel7484
      @lennoxschannel7484 Год назад +1

      @@x-fun3149 How?

  • @Skarloey01fan
    @Skarloey01fan Год назад +2

    Title : Goodbye to steam
    jinty and pug : We ain't dead

  • @sutherlandA1
    @sutherlandA1 3 года назад

    And to think that the class 9f were destined to be in commission as recently as the late 1980s

  • @amp9930
    @amp9930 3 года назад +1

    What locomotive is this being fuelled on the left? 5:57 All the louvres/vents in the middle are missing?

    • @AndreiTupolev
      @AndreiTupolev 3 года назад +1

      That's one of the Southern diesels 10201/2/3.

    • @amp9930
      @amp9930 3 года назад

      @@AndreiTupolev- Thank you, I had a feeling it was one of those but from that angle and with the large holes I wasn't sure. That makes this quite the unique footage then as I can't remember seeing them on film before.

  • @JosephStalin-hv8en
    @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад +1

    Diesel just press in the button your ready to go Robber be like wow thats nice😂😂

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 2 года назад +1

      What’s that supposed to mean?

  • @sumedhkudwe1293
    @sumedhkudwe1293 4 года назад +2

    Wow

  • @JosephStalin-hv8en
    @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад +2

    If steam engines dirty and hard to operate because coal is expensive why just use dead wood

  • @philipkay8116
    @philipkay8116 3 месяца назад

    Keeps on about diesel locomotives whilst showing a new class 77 over the new Woodhead route.

  • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
    @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 9 лет назад +50

    Look at the former steam railwaymen running the diesel locomotives. Sad, isn't it?

    • @snesman3768
      @snesman3768 5 лет назад +11

      Not really! 10000 was far better than any kettle in regards of efficiency and driver comfort, let alone paving the way for future british diesel and electric designs.

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 5 лет назад +3

      @@snesman3768 In the future Diesels will be cut for scrap with shears and torches and electric and hydrogen power will take over.

    • @snesman3768
      @snesman3768 5 лет назад +2

      @@PreservationEnthusiast Ok, but what has that got to do with the LMS twins? I just stated that a diesel loco from the 1940's was superior in terms of efficiency & driver comfort to steam locos of the era. You seem a bit thick for a troll. I'm sure you've got better things to do than prowl around youtube comments trying to mildly irritate people.

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 5 лет назад +1

      @@snesman3768 I don't know why you keep bringing up the 10,000 class. It was a very early underpowered and polluting diesel. One was ripped apart with cutting torches at Cashmores in 1963, the other disposed of in 1966. All scrap was sent for melting down and recycling. They were chopped before even steam locos were finished with!

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 5 лет назад

      @@snesman3768 If you would like to see 10,001 being cut to pieces at Cox and Dank's yard: facebook.com/LMS10000/photos/pcb.2019581194804904/2007997156171561/?type=3&theater
      Great cutting action!

  • @ALCO-C855-fan
    @ALCO-C855-fan 5 месяцев назад +1

    Aimed for the best but became the worst. A shame.😔
    Well atleast we got the memories.😊

  • @muhammadmeharmangi4562
    @muhammadmeharmangi4562 5 месяцев назад

    It is still better then our railway today 2024,

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 2 месяца назад +1

    'Best in the World'? Not then or now. Probably not ever. (But top 10, perhaps.)

  • @shielahowcroft9852
    @shielahowcroft9852 3 года назад

    Apologies it should read Deltic engine

  • @Cromwelldunbar
    @Cromwelldunbar 9 месяцев назад

    Ha ha, the dialogue spouts forth on the merits of « diésélisation » yet the supporting photo script is of an electric locomotive including the cab working! That said I still think more ought to be said about « The Big Four » as such and « what happened to them » what did they ie the Big Four think of nationalisation…and in detail!

  • @cyruslovesindia
    @cyruslovesindia 5 лет назад +6

    But there are still so many steam locomotives operational in UK.

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 5 лет назад +5

      @Singapore Pearl Most of the steam locomotives were chopped to pieces with cutting torches and melted down and recycled. There are a handful left in museums and short lines which run occasional tourist services.

    • @lachlanstephens4168
      @lachlanstephens4168 4 года назад +1

      They have been restored or left to rust

  • @envirommc7059
    @envirommc7059 3 года назад +2

    at 3:04 you can hear Thomas The Tank Engines whistle !

  • @kenet71
    @kenet71 4 года назад +9

    Goodbye Thomas, goodbye Gordon, goodbye Henry, goodbye Edward, goodbye James. Goodbye Percy. WHAAA 😭

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 4 года назад +3

      “No more steamies!”, oiled Diesel.

    • @catthecommentbothunter6890
      @catthecommentbothunter6890 3 года назад +1

      All the E2 tank engine where scrap no one is survive

    • @bennickss
      @bennickss 2 года назад

      Funnily enough, not a single E2, k2, black 5, Gresley A3, L&YR class 28 or GWR saddle tank were shown in this video

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 2 года назад

      Derek, Daisy, Salty, BoCo, Paxton, Mavis: Oh don’t cry, it’s not the Edna of steam.

    • @user-sw2zl4dq7k
      @user-sw2zl4dq7k Год назад +1

      I'm sorry, but it would have happened sooner or later. Someone will be sent for scrap, a landfill, another city, to a country, they will be sold to some railways, somewhere they will rot in forests, fields or reservoirs. Lucky for those who are restored and sent to museums. Perhaps some will be kept and they can work to this day, but it will not be what it used to be. Imagine modern Sodor like this, you will be sad and hurt, right?

  • @rossspenser8314
    @rossspenser8314 7 месяцев назад +1

    We ended up the worst in the world even after private

  • @Isochest
    @Isochest 5 лет назад +6

    Actually steam coped well and the present modes are not that much better final speed wise.

    • @allangreenley9901
      @allangreenley9901 4 года назад +2

      Less hard work shovelling coal and one driver cleaner .press a button and drive off no waiting for stem to build up or lightning fires

    • @allangreenley9901
      @allangreenley9901 4 года назад +2

      @Ward Studios well thought out .I just think too hard work for shovelling coal in this day and age.dirty sweaty work and little reward. Non stop in a express train

    • @arkadiuszgremza5963
      @arkadiuszgremza5963 4 года назад +3

      @Ward Studios Such a device (mechanical stoker) has actually existed for a long time and was used on biggest locomotives, mostly in US.
      There was still potential for improvement in steam locos at the time, but diesel/electric ones simply turned out much cheaper.

    • @mikemancini313
      @mikemancini313 4 года назад +1

      @Ward Studios Rip

    • @mikemancini313
      @mikemancini313 4 года назад +1

      @Ward Studios Not for the atmosphere.

  • @jasonthehumanoid1293
    @jasonthehumanoid1293 5 лет назад +9

    4:57 its emilys brother stirling number 1

    • @caledoniansignalman8153
      @caledoniansignalman8153 4 года назад +4

      “Brother” you mean sister because every locomotive and boat and car is considered a “she” for some reason

    • @RFFSA_SR7
      @RFFSA_SR7 4 года назад +4

      @@caledoniansignalman8153 *Actually no, you are tremendous wrong.*

    • @Charles-cl7qd
      @Charles-cl7qd 4 года назад +1

      his comment is fairly accurate I'm afraid

    • @thomaspanditfan2435
      @thomaspanditfan2435 2 года назад

      @@caledoniansignalman8153 I believe in the books this particular engine was a brother. So in that way he is refering to it as a brother.

    • @bennickss
      @bennickss 2 года назад

      It’s not, it’s her basis, I hate anyone who says ‘omg it’s (thomas character)/(thomas character’s sibling) while referring to their basis, I wish thomas stayed as books and nothing else

  • @mattipolarbear6739
    @mattipolarbear6739 Год назад

    RIP steam locomotives

  • @warwicktregurtha4198
    @warwicktregurtha4198 Год назад

    Bit ironic watching it in late May 2023.

  • @simonf8902
    @simonf8902 Год назад

    They were still building steam till 1961.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 Год назад

      1961? BR Standard Class 9F 92220 Evening Star was the last steam locomotive built in March 1960

  • @ncs8730
    @ncs8730 Месяц назад

    2:07 what A4 is it? Poor quality of the film doesn't let to see.
    Interesting how something, that was met proudly as the modern and the best in the past, becomes ordinary and dull decades after. Diesel locomotives will possibly be seen as an object of worship too, but they lack the charm steam locos have.

  • @billsalvey
    @billsalvey 9 лет назад +10

    it also means job cuts too.

    • @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
      @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 3 года назад

      ALL TECH removes jobs.
      Especially. The Shitcunt Ones.
      Always something new to play with.
      And we won’t die of black lung.

    • @JosephStalin-hv8en
      @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад

      Correct because those steam loco driver dont know how to drive diesel loco

  • @davidantoniocamposbarros7528
    @davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 года назад

    "Goodbye to steam"
    Bruh wait till 1960

  • @oldmate3152
    @oldmate3152 7 месяцев назад

    1:10 yeah he looks pretty bored 🤣

  • @mpedward2
    @mpedward2 3 месяца назад

    Sad

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 3 года назад +1

    'The best in the World'? Sorry old boy.

  • @kennztube
    @kennztube 4 года назад +3

    “Most men these days understand motor cars , ah really, and therefore understand what about diesel locos?”

    • @SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
      @SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 года назад +1

      how the internal combustion engine worked i assume? Cars were a much simpler beast in those days......

    • @trainknut
      @trainknut 4 года назад +1

      The difference between a GM car and an EMD 645 engine is pretty much just size... Which makes sense, because GM owns EMD.

  • @Markman4205
    @Markman4205 12 дней назад

    I really did not like the
    i dont really love the modernisation, it made the grand steam workhorses of the railway to oily boxy diesel locomotives, steam engines gave more of a fancier and cleaner look than the modern diesels

  • @spongebobgrumpypants6862
    @spongebobgrumpypants6862 5 месяцев назад

    I'm extremely disappointed at the lack of diversity in these pictures. Shame on you British Pathe, and indeed British Rail...................

  • @mickclay-vx1sx
    @mickclay-vx1sx Год назад

    Best thing they ever did , cut them up for scrap

  • @joesprinter8202
    @joesprinter8202 9 лет назад +7

    Its a shame that the bloke doing the talking hasn't done his homework. If this is what we're up against, god help us.

    • @jackwalker9100
      @jackwalker9100 5 лет назад +7

      The bloke doing the commentary is typical of the public school educated tossers still running the country today. They might not speak with the same stupid accent, but they still don't have a bloody clue what they're talking about - as evidenced by his describing the advantages of diesel traction over steam... while a 1500 vdc electric is being shown.

    • @steveluckhurst2350
      @steveluckhurst2350 3 года назад +2

      @@jackwalker9100 Do you not think that he may be reading a script? I have a feeling it's Bob Danvers - Walker, who was bought up and educated in Australia. So that sort of ruins your theory doesn't it !

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 Год назад

      @@steveluckhurst2350 Yes it's Bob Danvers-Walker

  • @nickybritain4900
    @nickybritain4900 3 года назад

    Was this the beginning of increased unemployment? Less people needed to operate these trains, more people out of work, saves money for BR, but costs in other ways!

  • @theflyinghamster8442
    @theflyinghamster8442 4 года назад +12

    Bring back steam!!!!!!

    • @926.repton
      @926.repton 4 года назад +6

      Diesels should get scrapped

    • @conor-rants-about-stuff
      @conor-rants-about-stuff 4 года назад +2

      It's protest time

    • @JosephStalin-hv8en
      @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад +1

      If coal was dirty use paper we have the biggest problem of paper waste so use it as a burning fuel for steam and diesel smokes make me sick

    • @JosephStalin-hv8en
      @JosephStalin-hv8en 3 года назад +1

      @@926.repton scrap metal is cheap now a days they should be melted into large furnace and make steam locomotives

    • @whossean
      @whossean 3 года назад +2

      they're on the island of sodor, don't worry

  • @superstepno835
    @superstepno835 Год назад

    Steam engines goes to the fat controller’s railway

  • @trainrover
    @trainrover Год назад

    those couple of swivel seats look American

  • @garyt6747
    @garyt6747 3 года назад

    Fillum

  • @williamcaldwell-smith3865
    @williamcaldwell-smith3865 4 месяца назад +1

    The British government wanted to make British rail the best in the world now it's the worst in the world, well western world and the most expensive

  • @keithdeley7236
    @keithdeley7236 Год назад

    The best in the world what happened 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @daviddalby9699
    @daviddalby9699 3 года назад

    All Mason's

  • @Hogger280
    @Hogger280 8 месяцев назад

    Great Propaganda Film!

  • @jamescollier847
    @jamescollier847 3 года назад

    Propaganda!