Thank you Sir! I am 53 years old and never learned to use a compass. You’re a great teacher. I’m going to take things slowly, but your videos have increased my confidence level. Thank you again and keep up the good work!
Thank you for taking the time to do this how to vid. I am in my 60s and have spent a LOT of time in the wilds both in the military, BSA and just being raised in the country, I wandered a lot. However, I have never been able to read a map, compass or use one of these little gadgets. You see, it's not a learning thing directly. I don't see in 3d, am colorblind and have very poor depth perception. So following along with these things has always been super challenging and I haven't been able to accomplish the mastery of formal land nav. Until, 0750 hours today. I came across your video and thought, "what the heck, I'll give it one more try." I must be honest, I did not expect anything more than a talking head. BUT, YOU opened up a world I have never been in before. I could follow your details with ease. Your little tips with the tape, and trimming the thing down, made my world become more exciting now. I am not exaggerating one little bit here, I have wanted to learn land nav proper for 50 years. I eeked through my outdoor life by instinct and sense of direction and learning the things nature has to teach, but I have never been able to read a map or follow a map or plot a course, UNTIL, 12 March 2022 at 0750 hours Midwest time. THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. I can not thank you enough for taking the time and care to teach this old dog something I have wanted to learn practically my entire life.
Great stuff Stoker. Excellent instructor. My son is taking an Opt 40 contract and wants to get a good handle on land nav, so he'll be watching all your vids. Then after, we'll be applying it in the woods. Thanks.
Glad you found them useful. Have a few more planned - specifically on how to learn how to navigate by terrain association. Hopefully I can get those knocked out in the next few weeks.
I don't trust myself cutting a protractor (to make a straight cut) - but I kind of dig using the tape - never thought of that, and dang! That makes it easy to read!!
@@STOKERMATIC Could a person just draw a thick red line around the protractor with a red permanent marker to make the edge and digits stand out? Your videos are so valuable....thanks for sharing!
Perhaps you can do a video on where you access the maps and how you print them out to have the numbers and the squares. I did go to the USGS website, but there is so much content I couldn’t sift through to find what I needed.... or I am just missing it. Thanks again. Day two of watching your videos and loving everything!
Daniel, sounds like a good idea, I dig it. For your situational awareness, while the USGS is one of the owners of maps, different agencies will use different...overlays. In this case, the DOD places grid lines out and uses specific scales. But, I will try to create a vid on using what’s publicly available to all of regardless of wheee. And thanks for hanging out on the channel! Glad you enjoy the content. Stoker
14:48 especially in low light or night time when you can't see the terrain features to guide you! If you get this right you will walk right in to your target :) It might help to note that these scribbles you are doing should be in your navigation notebook. That way you can go back and figure out where you may have gone wrong. It can be a game changer.
Some things we learned in ROTC is to put a small hole in the center of the protractor and string a single strand of 550 cord innards through it. This helps to find the azimuth if the two points are too far to draw a line between or if you don’t want pencil lines on your map.
Joseph, that’s a great technique that I’ve used and have taught others in the past as well. Just gotta make sure you pull the string tight and be sure of it, else it can end up getting snagged or giving a false reading. But it’s certainly a way to determine your grid azimuth and it’s well worth keeping in mind!
@@STOKERMATIC what about using a pieve of fishline for this purpose? Thin enough, not? Thanks for posting your clear and understandle vids....brilliant content!
To get a more Accurate Azimuth direction. When drawing your Line from Point A to Point B, also find where the line crosses a grid line on the map. Place the center hole of the protractor at this Intersection point. Now you can align the Protractors Cross hair lines up with the grid line on the map this eliminates the Guessing that your Protractor is Parallel to the grid. If you Don't do this, you might be Off by a Degree or two when finding your Azimuth Direction..
Where would you recommend looking to buy a 1:50,000 mgrs map?...having a heck of a time finding one for my local area. Thanks for the videos, extremely helpful!!!
You can use the protractor. Will get you close enough unless your trying to actually plot a 10 digit. UTM can be plotted just like mgrs. UTM just puts in additional numbers - similar to a UTM zone and 1000 meter grid designator. So UTM might read 370823 4315291 - the MGRS would be 70823 15291.
@@STOKERMATIC thanks for the reply bro. Alot of you tubers you tubers dont,and we really appreciate your time. .ya i normally use 6 digit for hiking and hunting, I'm not trying to find a buried treasures or anything... 🤣🍺
Awesome video but im wondering, if i have a 1:200,000 map, do i need a special protractor with a 1:200,000 scale or is there a trick to use the standard protractor on this unusually scaled map
I asked this question before, but apparently not clearly enough. The question is: we know the declination changes between magnetic north and truenorth; does it also change between grid north, magnetic north (GMA), and/or truenorth? If my map is several years old, am I going to have to change the difference between grid north and magnetic north, and/or truenorth; and if so how do I make that adjustment? I am particularly interested in any difference between grid north, and the other two over time.Thank you for your prompt reply to my previous question.
Gotcha. So yes, while grid north doesn’t change (always at top of map) the variation between GN and MN will change because the pole is moving. The way to stay up to date on it is to check NOAAs website. You can find up to date info here and then use that to make your adjustment for declination. www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/calculators/magcalc.shtml?useFullSite=true
The military protractor makes it very difficult to plot a precise coordinate due to the offset of the plastic and the scale axis. Do you know why they designed it that way? Normal civilian UTM protractors have cutouts so you can accurately plot the point. Great GREAT idea to just cut off the MILS scale on the outside. That was another annoyance I had was that the mils scale made it difficult to mark an accurate declination line.
So when it’s cut you still have a solid vertical and horizontal line - even with a UTM protractor, you need to be cautious and understand the impact of even a 1/32” error.
Eddie, I appreciate the feedback. I’m still working on refining my process and sometimes after putting it together you think it’s okay only to find out afterwards it could have been better. I have a few lessons learned in that regards over the past month or so and will work on tightening up my shot group. Hope it was still beneficial even with the discrepancy.
I agree. The music is distracting and seems to drown you out. This topic requires me to really focus on your lecture and the music makes that tough to do. I could not finish watching.
Nice presentation. I'm wondering if you could repost this video and maybe turn your sound Up. I had to turn My sound up almost all the way to hear what you were saying at all. Just trying to help. Thank you sir.
Lessons learned - I’m not sure what happened...but I have hopefully solved a few equipment issues. Feel free to check out How to Plot 8 Digit Grid Coordinates ruclips.net/video/OWTd0StOur0/видео.html While not as detailed, I go through the process of plotting and determining azimuths in it. Thanks for taking a moment to leave a response!
not sure if you guys gives a damn but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the new movies and series on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend lately :)
Hi. I have a question. I’m trying to convert grid to magnetic and my grid convergence on the map I’m using says 0.18 ( 5 and a half mils. I’m trying to ad to convert it to magnetic but I don’t know how to use that number to add. The 0.18, I don’t know if i need to add less than 1 or remain the the same
Greaaat. My protractor was made in China and all the triangles are on the opposite side yours is 2 small ones on the right and the big one is on the bottom left corner..who does that crap..
Have used very little in the past - forgot most of the ones I did. If you check my navigation playlist, you'll find plenty related content without. cheers
Thank you Sir! I am 53 years old and never learned to use a compass.
You’re a great teacher. I’m going to take things slowly, but your videos have increased my confidence level.
Thank you again and keep up the good work!
I didn't learn this stuff as a Combat Engineer back in the day. Thanks. You may have saved my life.
Appreciate your service brother!
Thank you for taking the time to do this how to vid. I am in my 60s and have spent a LOT of time in the wilds both in the military, BSA and just being raised in the country, I wandered a lot. However, I have never been able to read a map, compass or use one of these little gadgets. You see, it's not a learning thing directly. I don't see in 3d, am colorblind and have very poor depth perception. So following along with these things has always been super challenging and I haven't been able to accomplish the mastery of formal land nav. Until, 0750 hours today. I came across your video and thought, "what the heck, I'll give it one more try." I must be honest, I did not expect anything more than a talking head. BUT, YOU opened up a world I have never been in before. I could follow your details with ease. Your little tips with the tape, and trimming the thing down, made my world become more exciting now. I am not exaggerating one little bit here, I have wanted to learn land nav proper for 50 years. I eeked through my outdoor life by instinct and sense of direction and learning the things nature has to teach, but I have never been able to read a map or follow a map or plot a course, UNTIL, 12 March 2022 at 0750 hours Midwest time. THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. I can not thank you enough for taking the time and care to teach this old dog something I have wanted to learn practically my entire life.
Tom, I’m so glad the content has resonated with you so deeply. All the best as you continue to explore. 🙏🇺🇸🥃
Excellent map with protractor presentation and wonderful videos , thanks again STOKERMATIC!!
Thanks Thomas!
This is absolutely epic. Thank you so much. I also saved the video so I can watch it over and over.
Great stuff Stoker. Excellent instructor. My son is taking an Opt 40 contract and wants to get a good handle on land nav, so he'll be watching all your vids. Then after, we'll be applying it in the woods. Thanks.
Glad you found them useful. Have a few more planned - specifically on how to learn how to navigate by terrain association. Hopefully I can get those knocked out in the next few weeks.
Thank you. That is a great video. Great refresher for me. I haven't used a protractor since I was a kid.
Glad the content was helpful!
Really great work. You break down the information perfectly. Always enjoy watching your videos. Thank you
Stay happy healthy and fluid
Very thorough overview, thanks
I don't trust myself cutting a protractor (to make a straight cut) - but I kind of dig using the tape - never thought of that, and dang! That makes it easy to read!!
Thanks!! Glad you found something useful in the vid!
@@STOKERMATIC Could a person just draw a thick red line around the protractor with a red permanent marker to make the edge and digits stand out? Your videos are so valuable....thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing your expertise. I appreciate it.
Perhaps you can do a video on where you access the maps and how you print them out to have the numbers and the squares. I did go to the USGS website, but there is so much content I couldn’t sift through to find what I needed.... or I am just missing it. Thanks again. Day two of watching your videos and loving everything!
Daniel, sounds like a good idea, I dig it.
For your situational awareness, while the USGS is one of the owners of maps, different agencies will use different...overlays. In this case, the DOD places grid lines out and uses specific scales. But, I will try to create a vid on using what’s publicly available to all of regardless of wheee.
And thanks for hanging out on the channel! Glad you enjoy the content.
Stoker
I have the same issue.
14:48 especially in low light or night time when you can't see the terrain features to guide you! If you get this right you will walk right in to your target :) It might help to note that these scribbles you are doing should be in your navigation notebook. That way you can go back and figure out where you may have gone wrong. It can be a game changer.
That was kool, loved it, cheers
Some things we learned in ROTC is to put a small hole in the center of the protractor and string a single strand of 550 cord innards through it. This helps to find the azimuth if the two points are too far to draw a line between or if you don’t want pencil lines on your map.
Joseph, that’s a great technique that I’ve used and have taught others in the past as well. Just gotta make sure you pull the string tight and be sure of it, else it can end up getting snagged or giving a false reading. But it’s certainly a way to determine your grid azimuth and it’s well worth keeping in mind!
@@STOKERMATIC what about using a pieve of fishline for this purpose? Thin enough, not? Thanks for posting your clear and understandle vids....brilliant content!
To get a more Accurate Azimuth direction. When drawing your Line from Point A to Point B, also find where the line crosses a grid line on the map.
Place the center hole of the protractor at this Intersection point. Now you can align the Protractors Cross hair lines up with the grid line on the map
this eliminates the Guessing that your Protractor is Parallel to the grid.
If you Don't do this, you might be Off by a Degree or two when finding your Azimuth Direction..
In low light a protractor with lume tape can sometimes be read easier through your camera lens. Give it a try.
Need more training in this
Great video. Very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Where would you recommend looking to buy a 1:50,000 mgrs map?...having a heck of a time finding one for my local area. Thanks for the videos, extremely helpful!!!
USGS website. Products. Topo maps.
Once the mils are cut off I round the corners off. I use lume tape. It's super adhesive.
Can I use my protractor with a 1:24k map ? Is there any Tricks to be able to plot a utm grid corr. ?
You can use the protractor. Will get you close enough unless your trying to actually plot a 10 digit. UTM can be plotted just like mgrs. UTM just puts in additional numbers - similar to a UTM zone and 1000 meter grid designator. So UTM might read 370823 4315291 - the MGRS would be 70823 15291.
@@STOKERMATIC thanks for the reply bro. Alot of you tubers you tubers dont,and we really appreciate your time. .ya i normally use 6 digit for hiking and hunting, I'm not trying to find a buried treasures or anything... 🤣🍺
Awesome video but im wondering, if i have a 1:200,000 map, do i need a special protractor with a 1:200,000 scale or is there a trick to use the standard protractor on this unusually scaled map
Or wait could I use the 1:100,000 scale on my protractor, then just double all the measurements I get since my map is 1:200,000 scale?
Yup!
@@STOKERMATIC awesome thank you!
I asked this question before, but apparently not clearly enough. The question is: we know the declination changes between magnetic north and truenorth;
does it also change between grid north, magnetic north (GMA), and/or truenorth? If my map is several years old, am I going to have to change
the difference between grid north and magnetic north, and/or truenorth; and if so how do I make that adjustment? I am particularly interested in any difference between grid north, and the other two over time.Thank you for your prompt reply to my previous question.
Gotcha. So yes, while grid north doesn’t change (always at top of map) the variation between GN and MN will change because the pole is moving.
The way to stay up to date on it is to check NOAAs website. You can find up to date info here and then use that to make your adjustment for declination.
www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/calculators/magcalc.shtml?useFullSite=true
The military protractor makes it very difficult to plot a precise coordinate due to the offset of the plastic and the scale axis. Do you know why they designed it that way? Normal civilian UTM protractors have cutouts so you can accurately plot the point. Great GREAT idea to just cut off the MILS scale on the outside. That was another annoyance I had was that the mils scale made it difficult to mark an accurate declination line.
So when it’s cut you still have a solid vertical and horizontal line - even with a UTM protractor, you need to be cautious and understand the impact of even a 1/32” error.
Being just a degree off when plotting your path, isn't this where a compass comes into play, to make sure that you stay on the original path???
Background music makes it hard to hear your voice
Eddie, I appreciate the feedback. I’m still working on refining my process and sometimes after putting it together you think it’s okay only to find out afterwards it could have been better.
I have a few lessons learned in that regards over the past month or so and will work on tightening up my shot group.
Hope it was still beneficial even with the discrepancy.
STOKERMATIC but great video!
I could hear it either.
this video is so easy to learn map & protractor BUT the volume is really low and hard to hear and yes i still enjoyed the video
I've got a couple more on plotting where the volume is good to go. Appreciate the feedback!
I agree. The music is distracting and seems to drown you out.
This topic requires me to really focus on your lecture and the music makes that tough to do. I could not finish watching.
Nice presentation. I'm wondering if you could repost this video and maybe turn your sound Up. I had to turn My sound up almost all the way to hear what you were saying at all. Just trying to help. Thank you sir.
BOOM
ruclips.net/video/LmU32lCMYQY/видео.html
sure wish I could have heard your voice
Lessons learned - I’m not sure what happened...but I have hopefully solved a few equipment issues. Feel free to check out How to Plot 8 Digit Grid Coordinates ruclips.net/video/OWTd0StOur0/видео.html
While not as detailed, I go through the process of plotting and determining azimuths in it.
Thanks for taking a moment to leave a response!
not sure if you guys gives a damn but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the new movies and series on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my girlfriend lately :)
@Jude Zain Yea, have been using InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
Does grid north change relative to truenorth as declination changes?
No. Grid north doesn’t change. It’s always top of map.
You have a very soft voice my friend. The music makes it difficult to hear you. That said = Respect sent for your video & Thanks .
Hi. I have a question. I’m trying to convert grid to magnetic and my grid convergence on the map I’m using says 0.18 ( 5 and a half mils. I’m trying to ad to convert it to magnetic but I don’t know how to use that number to add. The 0.18, I don’t know if i need to add less than 1 or remain the the same
Ive never seen a GM angle of 0.18 degrees. If you want you can snap a picture of it and email it to me
Stokermatic@gmail.com
STOKERMATIC Thanks I will
I always find my points
OTHER VIDS SAY THE 99 IS THE FIRST # AND THE 37 IS THE FIFTH AND SIXTH # ???
Greaaat. My protractor was made in China and all the triangles are on the opposite side yours is 2 small ones on the right and the big one is on the bottom left corner..who does that crap..
Sorry, could not hear your presentation! Shame because I look forward to your instruction!!
Check out my more recent plotting video.
Thanks for your patience!
Sorry I wanted to watch your video but it has bad audio I cannot hear it
This one got a little sideways Charles - hope you're able to check my other content out.
No music plz
Have used very little in the past - forgot most of the ones I did. If you check my navigation playlist, you'll find plenty related content without. cheers
damn, you forgot to put in audio lol
Can’t hear you
my bad.
could not hear. Voice was to low.
try this one: ruclips.net/video/LmU32lCMYQY/видео.html
Sound too low
your scale was 1 to 50k your protractor is 1 to 25k.... does not compute, lol?
Probably good info here. Pity I can't hear you over the damn music. 😡
Volume is terrible
It was. Hope you catch some other content
Do not use music, it is awfull to try to understand what you are saying
Lesson learned.
Your video it's hard to hear
Poor quaility as far as vocals
Indeed. Check this one out -
ruclips.net/video/LmU32lCMYQY/видео.html