I've seen more broken bobcat lift arms than broken Deere lift arms. Never saw broken lift arms on a cat but then they just go into relief mode and don't lift.
I have all 3 at my office and by far the bobcat is the best of the bunch, the cat is a close second and the deere is the worst, most expensive one to have work done on it
Hey guys, and girls, they are all good machines, I have a new cat,my brother has several bobcats,my friend has two deeres,another friend has a kabota.they all have different qualitys ,,,,,,,,but you don't see a lot a deere around here. I worked a job just this week here in mid Tenn. Rain rain rain I could not have done it if not for my 259d3 cat ,,,,,, the customer couldn't believe it
Agreed. They're all very high quality machines that have pros and cons. I just bought a new deere to replace my Bobcat and my buddy has a new kubota. All great machines
just got to have the right tires/ tracks for the conditions. get out on the west coast and its wet and hillsides, most machines slide down the mud and dont have the power to get thru nor back up a hill. a deere properly settup just doesnt stop
this is old but still relevant, bobcat and cat both set pressure releifs from factory at 2500psi, john deere pushes 3200 psi. you can simply adjust it and it will lift more. overall, with correct modifications and adjustments, the older deeres will handle 6800 to 9000 pounds lifting capicity at full height and carry. they will make it 4000 hours plus. the g series is a joke, they have the power but used to be a 4000 hour machine i totaled a unit in less then 200 hours, and had problems within 100 hours. looking at units with less then 1k hours, its obvious there serious hydraulic, steel, computer problems. even cracks. i demoed a new case loader and ran 6 hours on the clock and it was hauled out. demoed a bobcat and it couldnt handle a hill of 30 degrees, let alone handle 1200 pounds. the g series could be a solid machine if deere wasnt cutting corners, and there parts where better. bucket pins last less then 40 hours. my bigest g series weighed in at 20k with post driver, tires with 18 inch tracks with 3 inch steel crossbar grousers, 6800 pounds and 60 degrees no problem. the steepest angle i hit with it working was 75 down slope and 60 side slope. i would recomend having a lid on coffee. most i pushed was 20 yards up hill. even 20 yards of gravel it could go right thru. i just picked up a 329d, this old tired machine i added a larger fuel filter and electric pump, she maxed out over 130hp, engine revs to 3700 rmps and rocks the whole machine, shes restricted at 120, but still a better unit then a 333g and will outpush/ work it with a ton of coal. i loose traction long before i run short of power. which is how these should be. putting on a mini ex drive sprocket and switching this rubber track to steel/ deere needs to turn a few pages back or simply they will loose more market share.
Back then Cat started offering a rear view camera. Today all manufacturers offer a rear view camera and on many it’s standard equipment. Still not gonna bash the Deere on lifting capabilities, they definitely lift heavy weight very well. Now a days compare this to a Takeuchi TL12V2 and their is no comparison. It will beat that Deere in every category.
@@KHAYREE-kc I was referring to the Takeuchi TL12V2, not the older TL12. The new series has a new track design and the V2 is a vertical lift machine with insane lift capacity. I also don’t look at machines abilities when they put them bucket to bucket on asphalt and see who can put push who. I like to see what they do in real world conditions working dirt. ASV does a lot of bucket to bucket push tests and usually win, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they will out work those same machines in dirt.
Most of my experience is Deere, Kubota and Cat although I have used Bobcat, Case, Geihl, and Mustang some but not enough to talk about. In my experience the Cat doesn't have the breakout force necessary to tilt that bucket back ( a Kubota wouldn't either) and it can be frustrating. The Deere has a slight advantage with the vertical lift too. Deere is my favorite but I think the Cat is the best bang for your buck. I love the machine in almost every other way. Keep in mind I'm only talking the 74hp machines.
I don't know my partner has a 331g and it out performs my bobcat in lifting. A lot more expensive tho for it to just pick up a little more they all have pros and cons
Bobcat is light years ahead of Kubota the t 870 is a beast of a machine it'll out preform a kubota at half throttle tried a jd found them to be tippy and lots of hydraulic noise in cab But kubota is the worest
Austin Clark well I think there made the best and have the best service network. Bobcats are great maybe even the best in my opinion to operate but but suffer from reliability issues most still use a belt drive pump setup. Deers are good to run but have had some engine problems also they seem to have a premium price for parts even compared to cat. I am a field mechanic and have been around all 3. I always say for hard use and construction cat all the way. That’s why you see them all the time. For farm use Deere you can get there parts at any Deere store ag or construction. If you don’t do your own maintenance or are going to rent then go bobcat.
Im torn between a cat and a deere i dont use for work will be mainly farm and house use and maintenance for driveways, brushcutting etc , u still think cat? Budget is 35-40k so maybe 5 year old low hour midsize machine with tracks
Austin Clark if you have access to a good John Deere dealer and they are a good dealer go Deere. Honestly if your looking for a used machine I’d just see what you could get that is in the best shape and not worry about cat a whole lot. Make sure if you go cat don’t get the ASV style tracks.
I would never own a John Deere again cabs are horrible and they have a little problem of catching on fire. I would go Bobcat or cat. and bobcat and Terex also have backup cameras just to let you know lol these videos set up by the dealers are always funny of course they focus on exactly what their machine is good at lol but in the forestry World these things are known to be poor performers. but if you're going to lift heavy stuff all day why not just get a forklift!!
Yea John Deere is good for tractors not skid steers, we have an 08 Bobcat S250 on our farm with heat and ac. it’s been great the only thing that went wrong was the alternator, we did have to replace the key with a screwdriver but that isn’t the Machines fault.
How is it fake news 😂😂. The deere is the most powerful skidsteer there is. The bobcat is in the middle. The cat is the fastest and has cab and track suspension which is why everyone gets the cat. The deere is a rough ride. We have a 333 at our work
@@evanszymanski346 the deer sucks because they need counter weights to lift and if they gave the bobcat and cat the counter weights they can pick it up too and deer is just for agriculture, and bobcat and cat r for construction , deer skid steer are wannabe in construction🤣
This is fake. Look at the way they tilt the forks back that's all the other two lack and boom once you tilt it back and get some weight closer to machine your there. And let me tell you something when it comes to steele cat is the commander and chief. Farm equipment case or deere
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I've seen more broken bobcat lift arms than broken Deere lift arms. Never saw broken lift arms on a cat but then they just go into relief mode and don't lift.
I have all 3 at my office and by far the bobcat is the best of the bunch, the cat is a close second and the deere is the worst, most expensive one to have work done on it
All about the operator
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌👍🇺🇸
Nothing stinks like a John. Lol.
My friend has an equipment repair business and thats the one brand he said to stay away from
We do . Grading on construction sites Deere really the worst
Hey guys, and girls, they are all good machines, I have a new cat,my brother has several bobcats,my friend has two deeres,another friend has a kabota.they all have different qualitys ,,,,,,,,but you don't see a lot a deere around here. I worked a job just this week here in mid Tenn. Rain rain rain I could not have done it if not for my 259d3 cat ,,,,,, the customer couldn't believe it
Agreed. They're all very high quality machines that have pros and cons. I just bought a new deere to replace my Bobcat and my buddy has a new kubota. All great machines
just got to have the right tires/ tracks for the conditions. get out on the west coast and its wet and hillsides, most machines slide down the mud and dont have the power to get thru nor back up a hill. a deere properly settup just doesnt stop
How much did it weigh?
this is old but still relevant, bobcat and cat both set pressure releifs from factory at 2500psi, john deere pushes 3200 psi. you can simply adjust it and it will lift more.
overall, with correct modifications and adjustments, the older deeres will handle 6800 to 9000 pounds lifting capicity at full height and carry. they will make it 4000 hours plus.
the g series is a joke, they have the power but used to be a 4000 hour machine i totaled a unit in less then 200 hours, and had problems within 100 hours. looking at units with less then 1k hours, its obvious there serious hydraulic, steel, computer problems. even cracks.
i demoed a new case loader and ran 6 hours on the clock and it was hauled out.
demoed a bobcat and it couldnt handle a hill of 30 degrees, let alone handle 1200 pounds.
the g series could be a solid machine if deere wasnt cutting corners, and there parts where better. bucket pins last less then 40 hours.
my bigest g series weighed in at 20k with post driver, tires with 18 inch tracks with 3 inch steel crossbar grousers, 6800 pounds and 60 degrees no problem. the steepest angle i hit with it working was 75 down slope and 60 side slope. i would recomend having a lid on coffee. most i pushed was 20 yards up hill. even 20 yards of gravel it could go right thru.
i just picked up a 329d, this old tired machine i added a larger fuel filter and electric pump, she maxed out over 130hp, engine revs to 3700 rmps and rocks the whole machine, shes restricted at 120, but still a better unit then a 333g and will outpush/ work it with a ton of coal. i loose traction long before i run short of power. which is how these should be. putting on a mini ex drive sprocket and switching this rubber track to steel/
deere needs to turn a few pages back or simply they will loose more market share.
Bobcat does offer a rear view camera
Does it have a safety sensor on it like everything else on their crappy machines?
So does deere
I love the back and forth arguing on this feed lmao! Y'all are never gonna figure it out and as soon as the deer lifts the thing up it's fake newz🧐
Wheres the asv rt75 or rt 120 ?... what a slacker
Ran them all and I’m going to stick with bobcat
Back then Cat started offering a rear view camera. Today all manufacturers offer a rear view camera and on many it’s standard equipment. Still not gonna bash the Deere on lifting capabilities, they definitely lift heavy weight very well. Now a days compare this to a Takeuchi TL12V2 and their is no comparison. It will beat that Deere in every category.
The rear view camera was a random thing to bring up plus idk about that it will beat the deere ruclips.net/video/fFObnD4idW4/видео.html
@@KHAYREE-kc I was referring to the Takeuchi TL12V2, not the older TL12. The new series has a new track design and the V2 is a vertical lift machine with insane lift capacity. I also don’t look at machines abilities when they put them bucket to bucket on asphalt and see who can put push who. I like to see what they do in real world conditions working dirt. ASV does a lot of bucket to bucket push tests and usually win, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they will out work those same machines in dirt.
got to know what youre doing/ i demoed a tak and it had issues right off under continuous heavy lifting/ working. light work they hold up.
@@TermiteBenny I literally see no def look in the skid steer it looks lime the older one
@@TermiteBenny Agreed the Takeuchi TL12v2 is an absolute monster of track loader and it's reliable. Dwarfs my Yanmar T175 in size and strength.
They got a t650 bobcat and stuck a t870 sticker on it
That's what I thought looked a bit small
The cat literally slant down his forks
Notice the deere operator curls bucket first. Other two could easily pick up but they knew what to do to make cat & bobcat fail. Setup
Most of my experience is Deere, Kubota and Cat although I have used Bobcat, Case, Geihl, and Mustang some but not enough to talk about. In my experience the Cat doesn't have the breakout force necessary to tilt that bucket back ( a Kubota wouldn't either) and it can be frustrating. The Deere has a slight advantage with the vertical lift too. Deere is my favorite but I think the Cat is the best bang for your buck. I love the machine in almost every other way. Keep in mind I'm only talking the 74hp machines.
I was looking at that exact thing too, such a setup. Im not even a professional skid steer driver and could see that
I agree
Case or new Holland didnt get invited to the party???
Nawwwwww.......Bobcat didn't want to get it's ass whipped!!!
tractorman MIKE it has to have a certain amount of sales
@@rodbuilder3657 its
You need weights on the caterpillar
What about a kubota 95
I don't know my partner has a 331g and it out performs my bobcat in lifting. A lot more expensive tho for it to just pick up a little more they all have pros and cons
Bobcat send all the weight back , but deere 333e send all the weight in the middle watch the full review
Bobcat is light years ahead of Kubota the t 870 is a beast of a machine it'll out preform a kubota at half throttle tried a jd found them to be tippy and lots of hydraulic noise in cab But kubota is the worest
Go shake your bucket and tell me how advanced your shit is 🤣
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If you ain't got a cat you ain't got a machine. Deere would be my last choice in these 3
Why?
Austin Clark well I think there made the best and have the best service network. Bobcats are great maybe even the best in my opinion to operate but but suffer from reliability issues most still use a belt drive pump setup. Deers are good to run but have had some engine problems also they seem to have a premium price for parts even compared to cat. I am a field mechanic and have been around all 3. I always say for hard use and construction cat all the way. That’s why you see them all the time. For farm use Deere you can get there parts at any Deere store ag or construction. If you don’t do your own maintenance or are going to rent then go bobcat.
Im torn between a cat and a deere i dont use for work will be mainly farm and house use and maintenance for driveways, brushcutting etc , u still think cat? Budget is 35-40k so maybe 5 year old low hour midsize machine with tracks
Austin Clark if you have access to a good John Deere dealer and they are a good dealer go Deere. Honestly if your looking for a used machine I’d just see what you could get that is in the best shape and not worry about cat a whole lot. Make sure if you go cat don’t get the ASV style tracks.
At least with the deere you get the bucket on the trailer.
Where is the new Holland
Does not look like a T870. Looks like a 770 or 750 maybe
I would never own a John Deere again cabs are horrible and they have a little problem of catching on fire. I would go Bobcat or cat. and bobcat and Terex also have backup cameras just to let you know lol these videos set up by the dealers are always funny of course they focus on exactly what their machine is good at lol but in the forestry World these things are known to be poor performers. but if you're going to lift heavy stuff all day why not just get a forklift!!
You are an idiot. Bobcat's suck. Always did. Always will.
Yea John Deere is good for tractors not skid steers, we have an 08 Bobcat S250 on our farm with heat and ac. it’s been great the only thing that went wrong was the alternator, we did have to replace the key with a screwdriver but that isn’t the Machines fault.
Jhon deere la mejor
The only thing better about a Deere, otherwise anything is better
This test is misleading ! The Bobcat 870 can lift nearly 6,800 lbs several feet in the air without tipping. This is fake news !!!
In your dreams it can.
@@rodbuilder3657 yes it can you dumbass
How is it fake news 😂😂. The deere is the most powerful skidsteer there is. The bobcat is in the middle. The cat is the fastest and has cab and track suspension which is why everyone gets the cat. The deere is a rough ride. We have a 333 at our work
Evan Szymanski lol, no
@@evanszymanski346 the deer sucks because they need counter weights to lift and if they gave the bobcat and cat the counter weights they can pick it up too and deer is just for agriculture, and bobcat and cat r for construction , deer skid steer are wannabe in construction🤣
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This is fake. Look at the way they tilt the forks back that's all the other two lack and boom once you tilt it back and get some weight closer to machine your there. And let me tell you something when it comes to steele cat is the commander and chief. Farm equipment case or deere
I've noticed that on another video deere made. Of course you roll it back 1st! Makes a huge difference!
Deere es mejor... no solo es desirlo... lo demuestran en el trabajo...
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
John Deere skid steers are garbage
What they fail to mention is the FACT that John Deere just puts their name on New Holland's machines, then sells them to YOU!!!
That was ten or 15 years ago, all the Deere are built in Iowa
john deer is the strongest but it fucking suxs ass- Breaks down all the time- get a bobcat or cat
its deer not deere
Minecraft xbro kid no its Deere.... the machine is named after a guy's last name, not a animal. Think before you speak....
Your an idiot
READ THE LETTERING YOU IDIOT!! It's Deere. Go look for Bamby!!
No it’s not bud, John Deere is the founders actual name. If you are talking about the animal you would be correct
@@total_gamer0671 " *Your* an idiot"
- oh, the irony
bias ass test ran them all and bobcat for me