I know 2 Brits who returned to the UK to get treated by the NHS. They just had to declare they were returning to the UK permanently. One guy had no money so they gave him a council house. I think Kev does not want to leave Thailand, which is understandable.
A lot of what your saying about the UK is misinformed. The NHS will treat anybody regardless of their status, although under funded and abused by many free loaders it is still one of the best health services out there. Keep strong Kev and wishing you all the best.
You Can go back to The U.K As an Ex-Pat,If You Tell them you've come back to STAY Permanently they have to treat you on the NHS & You get Benefits to help with you're OTHER Cost of Living Expenses,So Sorry Kev You are NOT Telling the truth....
Kev that's not 100% correct I lived in spain and gibraltar for 20 years flew back to the uk went to the hospital they asked for my name and medical number they found me on the system and that was it I was seen straight away....I had not used a doctor or hospital for 20 years in the uk.....but never had any problems there. Dont believe everything you hear or read.
@@TheYosserman And I know lots that have not got treatment without qualifying period, although living in Spain I have had treatment when holidaying and also until recently getting flu jab and blood pressure test offers, even though signing off fro the NHS. So it is not black and white. I have a friend who can't get a hip replacement on the NHS.
That's great news! Kev should lie and tell them that's his intention! He should also get priority over everyone else in the UK! Let those who live here go to the back of the queue! After all, Kev's life is so much more important than anyone else's, you fucking moron.
I dont think the 6 months out of the UK thing is true. I'm an expat living in Dubai and I go back to the UK for 2 months every year. I always go to the doctors and use the NHS. They dont question me about it. They said as long as I'm registered to an address in the UK it's fine.
That is probably Correct but it wouldn't of helped Kev because he isn't registered to an address in the UK. He said in the video he doesn't have a UK property.
You need a permanent address that's for sure and getting the occasional prescription is OK but if you have to have ongoing medicine then, like me, you could come unstuck !
@gopher wiretap Brilliant! Imagine getting really ill. I'm sure you'll find it easy to find a friend or family member to look after you and live with during your months of sickness and recovery. They'll be only to happy to disrupt their life just for you. And if it comes to the worst, they'll probably pay for your funeral, too.
No explanation needed really, this is your home and if you're sick you need to be home. When we move to Thailand, it's not on a whim, it's a change of life. We have to take the good with the bad and maybe that means doing some things differently. But we choose to make this our home and accept the challenges that presents. Keep fighting Kev 👍🍺
My neighbor is from England, He has been here (US) for decades. He had a hernia and went back to England for a month and got it fixed for free. It was last year. Cheaper than Medicaid.
Your 100% wrong with a lot of what you say in this video, I guess you just don’t want to go back to the uk and prefer to pay for treatment in Thailand.
Wise words indeed Kev. Never burn your bridges behind you. If you want to live or retire abroad make sure you have a registered address in the UK where your mail can be sent and come back to the UK at least once a year. My advice buy the cheapest one bed flat you can find, better a bed sit but both must have a recognised postal address.
I returned to the UK after 4 years out there. I tried to claim benefits, I was told I'm not entitled to benefits or NHS treatment for 3 months. Who would actually check at the hospital? I reckon nobody
Health insurance is really, really expensive in Thailand. To get insurance for treatment fo ra 65 year old man with no previous illness history would cost £15,000 a year !
Glad to see you looking better mate, but I was out of the UK for ten years and returned with no NHS problems whatever, my only problem was with HMRC but that got sorted within a month !!!!
I was one of the people asking you why you did not go back. I did not know that UK treated their citizens so bad when they still are citizens! I hope you feel better now and have some rest and put some kg on you so you can have the operation you mentioned. Take care M8!
Kevin you are looking better . For myself I don't need and explanation about anything Only you know what's best for Kevin . Take Care a d God be with you
Your spot on kev, my sister in law works in the NHS and once your living out of the country and have no address in the United kingdom, you are entitled to NO healthcare in United kingdom, I wish you all the best for the future my freind
Thanks for the update and your reasoning sounds solid to me! As long as you're in good hands getting the treatment you need than that's all that matters. Good luck with the battle against this thing and look forward to more videos and hopefully seeing you walking around Pattaya again when I go back :)
Great to see your broadcast Kev. Good advice to those living in the UK re expat status and the NHS. We are so happy to see you online again. Best wishes from Gold Coast Australia, much love, Alex and Jenny xxx
Makes me laugh when people say the NHS is free, it`s not, you contribute to it all your life and then when you leave the UK they take it off you. The only ones it`s free for are those that come to the UK having never paid into the system, go figure. Same with the state pension, frozen at the point it`s first claimed if you are in Thailand, not so in Spain etc So you are punished for your choices in retirement whilst others aren`t. All the best Kev.
When I went back for Christmas a few years ago, I had treatment on the NHS and had been away from the UK for a couple of years. Is this something new? Good to see you looking so much better. All the best.
Hello Kevin,hope you are well,your looking better mate....Just 1 thing about NHS.....I lived in Thailand for 2 years,and on returning,i got very sick with TB.... i went to hospital and got treated,nothing came up about being out of the country for so long.
That's what happens most of the time.. Kev's issue was also the cost of staying in the UK.. Its £250 a month (for a room ) in Bradford *all bills included* Our NHS would operate first and do radiation second..
Unlike most countries in the World...The NHS in the UK will not turn you away despite what you and many will say... and whatever your need the treatment is free...its your decision to believe whatever you choose but despite being under tremendous pressure despite a rapidly increasing elderly population and uncontrolled mass immigration the UK NHS system is the envy of the World..Stay strong fella and I wish you well..
Even in the USA you would get immediate treatment which of course you’re never going to pay the bill on but that wouldn’t matter. We don’t let people die in the street here my guess is UK is no different.
I know you survive this and beat this cancer like I did, from 2005 till 2007 survived Intestine tumor and Liver Tumors, 3 surgery s and a lot of chemo s was my battle,. mentally you are stronger then me as far as I watch this.,, but anyway here in Holland my insurance paid all of the treatments in the hospital, and I was lucky to survive it till the day of today.,, I have lost a lot of my energy and lost a part of my fulltime job, ( still in for 50 % ), and for the rest im thankfull for what I still can do., ., I hope you Kevin can say this also in 2031...
Nice to see you doing videos again, life in England seems very difficult for the regular citizen, only the ones that lives in the Buckingham palace have a great life.
If you are in receipt of a state pension, you can go back to Britain and receive free health care. True about the cost of living there, though. Hope you pull through this, Kev.
Good to see you looking better mate! And it's not just the U.K. Very much the same for millions in the U.S. Along with 50,000 other Residents of my State I got kicked off the Obama Care (for not providing information I provided) to cut the crippling Obama Care deficit that is bankrupting The State and I would have to sue in court and win to regain coverage. And, with the cost of living on most of the West Coast of the U.S. now on a par with London and the most expensive cities in the world, (Try $1300/mo for a flat) and set to get even more expensive, there are millions nearing or in retirement in a real crisis situation in terms basic needs like healthcare and shelter and faced with living in a vehicle, on the street or moving out of the U.S.
Starting to see the old spark .. keep it up - maybe see you in the gym .. The one in Rhompo market is still open ( Rhompo got an extension for a few years i think)
Good luck with the surgery coming up. You will get through it no problems and you'll have a good support group while recovering. Good to see a video also.
Love you Kev, and Rob for all that he has done, and glad to see you improving, but you're sadly wrong on so many financial and NHS information details concerning a possible return - please don't rule out returning. It need not be a problem in any respect, quite the opposite, in fact... get some accurate advice...
Glad to see you out and about Kev. The rates in the Philippines are dragging as well. Got here last year with a ₱54 on the Dollar. Now barely hanging on at ₱51. Wishes for a speedy recovery. Many prayers sent. 👍🏻
I wanted to add one more comment .. Most people will never know true friendship like the one you have with Thailand Rob . these are the people that are there for you through the tuff times as well as the good times, they do not discard there friends in time of need ..
Hi Kev, I’m not sure even maintaining a UK address works anymore. In Australia immigration counts you out at the airport and notifies all agencies. I don’t know if the UK has adopted this digital system yet :( Anyway, stay strong & take care mate
Thanks for making me think...I am moving to the Philippines, probably for the rest of my life..I will certainly check Medicare rules in America..I will always have my banking and a address here in USA..if I was a Englishman I would certainly return once or twice a year to keep my health insurance for sure..I am a cancer survivor and been in remission for many years from malignant melanoma cancer..I plan on getting a complete check up once or twice a year including blood tests and x Ray's..I have checked and it's not expensive at all.. first sigh of any health problems and I will be on the next plane back to USA..no matter how careful we plan we are always going to come across the unknown scenario we could not plan for..I been cancer free for over six years but I never know what tomorrow brings..I plan on visiting Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. I will try and look you up and buy you lunch if you like..I hope and pray that everything turns out ok for you and keep on keepin on and watch your six..
Sad to say the USA will not extend medicare out of the US. If you are able , you can return to the USA and get back on medicare. But you will receive your social security, no problem. Buying a Thai health plan is the best.
Good too see you back up and about mate..we all missed you.. good luck with your recovery and hope you're back to your old self again soon..be back Pattaya end of the month, hope to see you around fit and well...stay safe and keep well mate.. Keep up the good fight and best of luck to you Kev..
It amazes me that so many Brits think that after they emigrate to another country they believe they can return at a future date to have free treatment. it's not the case. Just having a British passport does not entitle you to a free lifetime of health service.
you pay in all them years then can,t get any think back but people come here from all over the world and can get treatment so not right or fair and yet we can,t do any think about it,
You are spot on Kevin. You need to pay 150 pct of the cost for NHS treatment if you become non resident in UK. One of the pitfalls of becoming non UK resident
The NHS thing is a disgrace Kev. The daftest part is when you reach retirement age you cease paying national insurance contributions so if you live in the UK or not you don't pay anymore into the system. So where is the logic in that? If someone had moved overseas before they had paid in the required number of qualifying years i could understand it but when you reach retirement age you have paid years more than that. It's just plain wrong. Same thing with the state pension. It's frozen at the point you leave the UK in some countries but not in others. Thailand is one of them unfortunately. Here's a good one. If you are resident in the USA you get the annual increment. If you are in Canada or New Zealand which are both commonwealth countries you don't. Go figure. There's a whole crazy list of anomalies like that on the DWP website. I know it's because they have reciprocal agreements with some countries and not others but why not? There is an elderly lady over here who has been running an online campaign for years to try and change this but the government refuse, they say it will cost too much. Just as a final kick in the nuts even when i move overseas the government will still tax my income from my state and works pensions at the full rate of income tax. B*stards!
Glad to see you feeling better Kev. I get the not wanting to go back to UK 100%, its getting worse. Unfortunately I'm going to be snookered soon when I come to renew my Non O visa. Whatever way I do it, I cannot get insurance less than £2000. The new Thai insurers will not insure me as I'm over a certain BMI, not thai midget size. European insurers will insure but nothing covered as just about everything comes under pre existing conditions, & they still want £2000 for what would basically be accident insurance. I'm sick of people who give advice who think they are covered, when if You drill down a few questions, their totally NOT, but I'm sick of pissing on people's chips. So my advice is don't believe for 1 second an insurer will not try to wriggle out of coughing up & even if you've visited a GP before you travel, ensure you disclose everything because they check everything. Even though I can pay for reasonable health care self funding, it's not enough under new rules. They need to look again, I would even be prepared to pay monthly contributions but of course that's not an option. Best of luck in the future Kev, I'll try to share a beer with you next time I'm in Pattaya & hope that good man rob is around as I'd like to buy him a drink too.👍🇬🇧🏴
Sorry Kev but completely misinformed, you can walk into any hospital and they will treat you. How would they even know you haven't been in UK for the last 6 months, it not like you have to takr your passport in the the hospital or show tax records to prove anything. Well easy to go hospital even if you been away for 20 yrs
I agree. If you pay Class D contributions while overseas you can maintain your NHS status. Having an address and being on the electoral role more so. No Doctors can ask to see your passports.
They will check info about you eg.national insurance,household rates and then ask why you have not claimed things like heating allowance.Kev has no address only in Spain and don't forget he would have to.go on a waiting list for the op.Maybe Kev has not paid into the system for his pension this will all come out when they find out who he is .
You will get treatment on the NHS for a medical emergency regardless. I have a pal who returned to the UK from Thailand who got treatment with no problem. Also, the UK state retirement increases are preserved for those who live in the Philippines. Go figure
Nice to see you back out & about again Kev your looking stronger, . keep up the exercise its gonna make U stronger for the Op.. Kev I agree with what U say about your NHS rights , but you need to check out your NI contributions, you must have paid most if not all of your qualifying credits for your state pension. As long as you have paid at lease 10 full years contributions then you will qualify for something. You can check your contributions credits on Gov.uk pensions just open your account to get your I'd & password & your NI #. I will try send you link to your email. Good luck.
This was a very interesting topic regarding the NHS and ex-pats returning for health care. The American Medicare rules for people abroad seem to be quite different. Medicare Part A and Part B and Part D do not cover foreign medical expenses. But as long as the ex-pat was eligible for and signed up for Medicare and paid the premiums, whether within the U.S. or abroad, there doesn't seem to be a restriction on traveling back to the U.S. for medical care under the program. The Supplemental coverage also seems to work the same way, keep paying the premiums, they don't care where the subscriber lives, but services are only covered within the U.S. Supplemental Plan F is very good, it covers all co-pays, co-insurance, and deductibles, plus covers extended hospital stays.
Ive been told by guys that have gone back for treatment that as long as you are still registered at a UK doctor surgery and have a postal address its all good. Also if you do go back and assume normal residence in the UK,NHS is automatically restored.
@Lee Adams - I don't want to argue with KEV and you are correct but, in some NHS areas within the UK once you are out of the UK for more than three months, you can be de-registered by your doctor despite the fact that you have a permanent address in the UK. If you are de-registered from a doctors practice, it is illegal for a doctor to proscribe any medication. All they can do is refer you to your local hospital for treatment. Failing that, you will be able to go to any hospital in the UK without a doctor's referral, with your passport and receive free treatment there. Provision is also made for inclusion on an "Emergency Patient Treatment" list, especially for cancer patient treatment. At the back of your registration card, if you have been issued with one it states, "Please return this card to the address above if you are leaving the UK for more than three months or hand it to an Immigration Officer on departure". This plastic Medical Card replaced the old paper National Health Card which shows your National Insurance number. You do not loose any benefits including state pension rights if you have fully contributed to the National Insurance Scheme at the time of your retirement. If you return to the UK and have a permanent address there, you are entitled by law to medical treatment as a UK citizen and to re-register with a doctor of your choice, always assuming of course that the practice will take you on their books in the area you live in.
Good to see you are up and at it again Kev. Enjoy the massage, you have more than earned it. And a shout out to Rob a true and faithful friend of yourself and your subscribers.
Your looking stronger Kevin. I wish you strength to keep fighting. I don't understand your protractors concerning your NHS. Anyone should know coverage disappears when you lose your residency after 6 months. We have the same situation here in Can. They'll still take your taxes though.lol . Anyway I wish you happier days ahead. Cheers.
Kevin your looking good bro thank you for not showing the food you know it makes me drool lol 😂.. enjoy your Chihuahua massage lol , thank you for helping others with the information and pit falls of leaving there countries without the information they need . I for one didn’t know about the nhs cheers God’s speed
You are Looking much better kev my prayers are for your full recovery so glad you are staying and being treated in Thailand hospitals in uk are not good mate trust me my mum died at 46 she caught MRSA and c.diff was awful all the best mate if i win lotto will make sure you are ok mate 🙏🙏🙏
Sax I know it’s mental ! All these Gap year kids coming back to the UK from God knows where with super Aids and no treatment !! Thanks for the heads up !
As long as you keep a postal address you should’ve been fine. However, if you need to pay rent, food etc probably costs the same as what you would pay for first class treatment in Thailand.
Saw on another UK vlogers channel that UK national heath will only treat for free an expat that has been out of the country for a while if he/she can prove that they are back in the country to stay for good. The key words being "resident" rather than "citizen". Also seem to recall the requirement to be back in the country for 6 months. but not sure on that one. I know Aussies are good for 5 years out of the country before Medicare abandons them.
It’s up to you, sir. I reckon to start drinking a detox water made with turmeric, cinnamon and oregano oil. Also brew your own reishi mushroom tea. Drink these at least 3 times per day. If you can find a stalk of celery, you can juice it and drink it 3 times per day. Good luck!
Good to see you are eating again and on the mend Kev. Hope your recovery goes well for you and that you will be up and running about very soon. A big thumbs up to Rob too👍. Keep smiling.
I'm with you on this one Kev You're doing exactly the right thing by staying here for your medical treatment! I was back in the UK in May of this year, I had to pay a visit to my GP with my ongoing medical condition. I was made to feel most unwelcome because they probably knew that I just came back to the UK to use the NHS etc? I worked all my life in the UK, served my country, paid all my taxes -still paying taxes on my pensions etc. I've now decided to return back to Thailand, avoid the no entitlement to NHS etc. God bless you and get well soon
Mate I'm sorry but all this six months crap is what it is crap I was out for years I mean on and off for Forty years had been living in Thailand for years took ill with a very serious heart condition had my surgery in Bangkok Pattaya under Dr.Kitti flew back to UK as soon as I could and was seen straight away no questions asked so whoever is spreading this nonsense before this I lived in California from 1978 - 1990 came back again without a problem to suggest the NHS will not treat you is ridiculous to say the cost of living in the UK is too expensive again that's a myth I was paying five hundred pounds a month for a condo in Avenue then water and electric on top the pound is catastrophic against the baht and everything is twice what it was even my Thai partner of ten years who is with me in the UK at the minute says its much cheaper here I do sympathize with the position your in but it does seem like your trying to justify in your own mind to stay there Thailand can do that to you I honestly hope things work out for the best but I stand by what I've said you should come back to the UK
Looking and sounding good Kev! Yes you're right about being screwed by the UK.No NHS cover despite having paid in most if our lives and our pensions frozen. Yet the bloidu politicians vote themselves above Inflation lag rises every year and claim 100's of thousands in expenses. Not to mention the backhanders for making life easy for the rich and multinational companies. It makes me want to puke! Rant over! Take care mate and continue getting stronger!
Sorry kev. I'm one of your subs that said about going back to UK for treatment. As I said last week I didn't know the rules or laws were that strict. I ex pat living in Spain and the rules are slightly different. Hope I not put my foot in it. You certainly look better today than last week. Glad you eating better. Best wishes.
HEY KEVIN, YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD. I'VE BEEN OFFERING UP PRAYERS FOR YOU EVERY NIGHT AND HOPING FOR YOUR SPEEDY RECOVERY. I'M COMING BACK TO THAILAND AS SOON AS I GET EVERYTHING DONE HERE IN THE U.S. AND WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO COME DOWN AND VISIT WITH YOU. I SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO THAILAND AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND WILL MAKE MY WAY DOWN TO YOUR AREA SOMETIME IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER. UNTIL THEN, SAFE LIFE TO YOU MY FRIEND.
Health insurance for a guy his age would of been about 25k per year before his illness. Might be a lot more after his recovery and it might no cover any further cancer treatments. If you watch his other videos you will hear that he was planning on buying health insurance, unfortunately he got sick just before he bought it. He is been treated at Bangkok hospital and I am sure this is just as good as NHS in UK.
Good to see you again Kev, we all understand that you are not able to do your regular videos, the most important thing is to take care of yourself. I’m from America and yet I have had to explain to people from the UK on many channels including Robs why you didn’t go back to the UK for treatment, maybe hearing it straight from you will help. Take care and we will see you soon. Cheers 🍻
Good to see you out and about Kev. I know I'm repeating what everyone else is saying but it's nice to see youy're able to post vids again. Pitinis is a great little restaurant. Had breakfast and dinner there many times. Good food and good prices. Hope you're properly on the mend mate and I'm hoping you'll be well enough for a meet when I'm back in September. All the best to you.
When you say after 6 months you have no benefits in the UK just wondering how would they know? I've not had to give any info apart from my name and address (no passport etc) when visiting hospitals/doctors.
Kevin just a thought , I know your set on having this op in Thailand and you have indicated as to the huge costs of it , also you have listed costs of returning to the UK to have it done . However there are short term all inclusive rental options available on 3 / 6 / 12 month availabiities around the £700 a month mark or even all inclusive rooms at £300 a month . This is as you well know a major op , so bearing that in mind as opposed to having it in a Thai hospital + the huge costs it might well even at this stage be worth a second thought . I could even pick you up at Heathrow and cart you about . Anyway all the best with however it turns up
After 6 months out of the UK you do in fact lose your Benefit rights for 3 months after your return & then have to have what they call a Habitual Residency test and provide evidence of residency. However, I'm pretty sure you don't lose your right to NHS treatment as a British Citizen , let's face it you can get NHS treatment over here even if you're a foreign tourist & probably won't even get a bill for it. However, Kev's certainly right about the associated costs of moving back, even on a temporary basis, easily a Grand a month on rent & Council tax alone.
Glad you addressed everyone's questions and concerns why you did not return to the UK for treatment . Mate you look so much better then when i saw you in April . Massive improvement . We are back at the end of October you will have had your op by then and by jesus we will be taking you out to put the nose bag on no worries there .
Great video Kev and you’re looking good mate. I didn’t realise us British taxpayers lost our healthcare after 6 months (while non tax paying medical tourists, foreign immigrants & lifelong welfare recipients get it for free). Looking forward to the next video. God bless.
I know 2 Brits who returned to the UK to get treated by the NHS. They just had to declare they were returning to the UK permanently. One guy had no money so they gave him a council house. I think Kev does not want to leave Thailand, which is understandable.
A lot of what your saying about the UK is misinformed. The NHS will treat anybody regardless of their status, although under funded and abused by many free loaders it is still one of the best health services out there. Keep strong Kev and wishing you all the best.
You Can go back to The U.K As an Ex-Pat,If You Tell them you've come back to STAY Permanently they have to treat you on the NHS & You get Benefits to help with you're OTHER Cost of Living Expenses,So Sorry Kev You are NOT Telling the truth....
Kev that's not 100% correct I lived in spain and gibraltar for 20 years flew back to the uk went to the hospital they asked for my name and medical number they found me on the system and that was it I was seen straight away....I had not used a doctor or hospital for 20 years in the uk.....but never had any problems there.
Dont believe everything you hear or read.
I know several Thailand expats from the UK who have gone back,to the UK for NHS treatment after living in Thailand for many years
Hi Jaime...yes, l think you are correct in what you say mate, same thing here in Australia
@@TheYosserman And I know lots that have not got treatment without qualifying period, although living in Spain I have had treatment when holidaying and also until recently getting flu jab and blood pressure test offers, even though signing off fro the NHS. So it is not black and white. I have a friend who can't get a hip replacement on the NHS.
The law states the UK citizens can get health care immediately from NHS if you intend to settle back in the UK.
That's great news! Kev should lie and tell them that's his intention! He should also get priority over everyone else in the UK! Let those who live here go to the back of the queue! After all, Kev's life is so much more important than anyone else's, you fucking moron.
Well said peter you put you head above the parapet and arsols try to shoot you stay well mate
If it's an emergency NHS will treat you. Cancer treatment in Thailand very expensive. Good luck Kev
I dont think the 6 months out of the UK thing is true. I'm an expat living in Dubai and I go back to the UK for 2 months every year. I always go to the doctors and use the NHS. They dont question me about it. They said as long as I'm registered to an address in the UK it's fine.
That is probably Correct but it wouldn't of helped Kev because he isn't registered to an address in the UK. He said in the video he doesn't have a UK property.
it is permanent leaving (as he said he doesn't maintain any UK address for services).
You need a permanent address that's for sure and getting the occasional prescription is OK but if you have to have ongoing medicine then, like me, you could come unstuck !
You are correct. You are entitled to use the NHS as soon as you take up residency back in the UK same as any immigrant going to live there
@gopher wiretap
Brilliant! Imagine getting really ill. I'm sure you'll find it easy to find a friend or family member to look after you and live with during your months of sickness and recovery. They'll be only to happy to disrupt their life just for you. And if it comes to the worst, they'll probably pay for your funeral, too.
No explanation needed really, this is your home and if you're sick you need to be home. When we move to Thailand, it's not on a whim, it's a change of life. We have to take the good with the bad and maybe that means doing some things differently. But we choose to make this our home and accept the challenges that presents. Keep fighting Kev 👍🍺
My neighbor is from England, He has been here (US) for decades. He had a hernia and went back to England for a month and got it fixed for free. It was last year. Cheaper than Medicaid.
Your 100% wrong with a lot of what you say in this video, I guess you just don’t want to go back to the uk and prefer to pay for treatment in Thailand.
Wise words indeed Kev. Never burn your bridges behind you. If you want to live or retire abroad make sure you have a registered address in the UK where your mail can be sent and come back to the UK at least once a year. My advice buy the cheapest one bed flat you can find, better a bed sit but both must have a recognised postal address.
Speedy recovery Kev. Noticed no wife in any of your videos. Is she supporting you or has she departed because of your illness?
I returned to the UK after 4 years out there. I tried to claim benefits, I was told I'm not entitled to benefits or NHS treatment for 3 months. Who would actually check at the hospital? I reckon nobody
You knew all this when you decided to live in Thailand, and yet you still chose not to get health insurance for living abroad!
Health insurance is really, really expensive in Thailand. To get insurance for treatment fo ra 65 year old man with no previous illness history would cost £15,000 a year !
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He's not yet 60, let alone 65 and besides, health insurance in Thailand for 5 million baht coverage costs less than £1200 per annum.
@@royporter4232 Still cheaper than what hes paid already for his treatment.
Wish you nothing but the best Kev. and big thanks to Rob
No registered address? What about your Condo in Spain? Which is still in EU.
Glad to see you looking better mate, but I was out of the UK for ten years and returned with no NHS problems whatever, my only problem was with HMRC but that got sorted within a month !!!!
I was one of the people asking you why you did not go back. I did not know that UK treated their citizens so bad when they still are citizens! I hope you feel better now and have some rest and put some kg on you so you can have the operation you mentioned. Take care M8!
Kevin you are looking better . For myself I don't need and explanation about anything Only you know what's best for Kevin . Take Care a d God be with you
Your spot on kev, my sister in law works in the NHS and once your living out of the country and have no address in the United kingdom, you are entitled to NO healthcare in United kingdom, I wish you all the best for the future my freind
Seems there are all varieties of opinions on that in this thread.
Wish you a speedy recovery, glad to see your able to produce another video, Robert 👍
Thanks for the update and your reasoning sounds solid to me! As long as you're in good hands getting the treatment you need than that's all that matters. Good luck with the battle against this thing and look forward to more videos and hopefully seeing you walking around Pattaya again when I go back :)
Great to see your broadcast Kev. Good advice to those living in the UK re expat status and the NHS. We are so happy to see you online again. Best wishes from Gold Coast Australia, much love, Alex and Jenny xxx
Makes me laugh when people say the NHS is free, it`s not, you contribute to it all your life and then when you leave the UK they take it off you. The only ones it`s free for are those that come to the UK having never paid into the system, go figure. Same with the state pension, frozen at the point it`s first claimed if you are in Thailand, not so in Spain etc So you are punished for your choices in retirement whilst others aren`t. All the best Kev.
It's free if you're a dolite scrounger who never made any contributions then they can live off the back of the taxpayer
Thats very true and the stamp costs at least 10-12% of your salary and is taken out automatically.
When I went back for Christmas a few years ago, I had treatment on the NHS and had been away from the UK for a couple of years. Is this something new? Good to see you looking so much better. All the best.
Hello Kevin,hope you are well,your looking better mate....Just 1 thing about NHS.....I lived in Thailand for 2 years,and on returning,i got very sick with TB.... i went to hospital and got treated,nothing came up about being out of the country for so long.
That's what happens most of the time.. Kev's issue was also the cost of staying in the UK..
Its £250 a month (for a room ) in Bradford *all bills included* Our NHS would operate first and do radiation second..
ii agree with that mate i was out for 17 months got treatment straight away if uhave a NHS number and national insurance number they do not check!!
I was out of the UK for 35 years, went back for a visit, got sick had treatment no cost
Unlike most countries in the World...The NHS in the UK will not turn you away despite what you and many will say... and whatever your need the treatment is free...its your decision to believe whatever you choose but despite being under tremendous pressure despite a rapidly increasing elderly population and uncontrolled mass immigration the UK NHS system is the envy of the World..Stay strong fella and I wish you well..
Even in the USA you would get immediate treatment which of course you’re never going to pay the bill on but that wouldn’t matter. We don’t let people die in the street here my guess is UK is no different.
Sorry to hear.. my prayers r with u
I know you survive this and beat this cancer like I did, from 2005 till 2007 survived Intestine tumor and Liver Tumors, 3 surgery s and a lot of chemo s was my battle,. mentally you are stronger then me as far as I watch this.,, but anyway here in Holland my insurance paid all of the treatments in the hospital, and I was lucky to survive it till the day of today.,, I have lost a lot of my energy and lost a part of my fulltime job, ( still in for 50 % ), and for the rest im thankfull for what I still can do., ., I hope you Kevin can say this also in 2031...
Nice to see you doing videos again, life in England seems very difficult for the regular citizen, only the ones that lives in the Buckingham palace have a great life.
what has life in England got to do with this video he doesn't live in England and hasn't lived there for a long time.
You have inside information?
NHS never refuses treatment for anyone.
It's not Thailand...
If you are in receipt of a state pension, you can go back to Britain and receive free health care. True about the cost of living there, though.
Hope you pull through this, Kev.
You Sure about That
Free? Nothing is free.
hes not old enough for a state pension and the cost of living is definitely higher just like the wages.
Sorry, you are wrong. Google it !
Good to see you looking better mate! And it's not just the U.K. Very much the same for millions in the U.S. Along with 50,000 other Residents of my State I got kicked off the Obama Care (for not providing information I provided) to cut the crippling Obama Care deficit that is bankrupting The State and I would have to sue in court and win to regain coverage. And, with the cost of living on most of the West Coast of the U.S. now on a par with London and the most expensive cities in the world, (Try $1300/mo for a flat) and set to get even more expensive, there are millions nearing or in retirement in a real crisis situation in terms basic needs like healthcare and shelter and faced with living in a vehicle, on the street or moving out of the U.S.
All the best Kev, good luck with your treatment
Hi Kev, great vlog, informative for other expats if they want to keep the NHS benefits. Your looking better already, keep it up fella ;)
Hello From Montreal Canada I Hope you feeling much better God Bless you
Starting to see the old spark .. keep it up - maybe see you in the gym .. The one in Rhompo market is still open ( Rhompo got an extension for a few years i think)
Good luck with the surgery coming up. You will get through it no problems and you'll have a good support group while recovering. Good to see a video also.
Love you Kev, and Rob for all that he has done, and glad to see you improving, but you're sadly wrong on so many financial and NHS information details concerning a possible return - please don't rule out returning. It need not be a problem in any respect, quite the opposite, in fact... get some accurate advice...
Glad to see you out and about Kev. The rates in the Philippines are dragging as well. Got here last year with a ₱54 on the Dollar. Now barely hanging on at ₱51. Wishes for a speedy recovery. Many prayers sent. 👍🏻
I noticed the same thing in the Philippines
I wanted to add one more comment .. Most people will never know true friendship like the one you have with Thailand Rob . these are the people that are there for you through the tuff times as well as the good times, they do not discard there friends in time of need ..
Kevin I dont know if its any different but my friend came back from Portugal for bowel cancer treatment after living out the UK for 11 years .
But he was in the EU which is allowed.
A friend of mine from Spain also but wondering if this is related to Europe?
Hi Kev, I’m not sure even maintaining a UK address works anymore. In Australia immigration counts you out at the airport and notifies all agencies.
I don’t know if the UK has adopted this digital system yet :(
Anyway, stay strong & take care mate
Thanks for making me think...I am moving to the Philippines, probably for the rest of my life..I will certainly check Medicare rules in America..I will always have my banking and a address here in USA..if I was a Englishman I would certainly return once or twice a year to keep my health insurance for sure..I am a cancer survivor and been in remission for many years from malignant melanoma cancer..I plan on getting a complete check up once or twice a year including blood tests and x Ray's..I have checked and it's not expensive at all.. first sigh of any health problems and I will be on the next plane back to USA..no matter how careful we plan we are always going to come across the unknown scenario we could not plan for..I been cancer free for over six years but I never know what tomorrow brings..I plan on visiting Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. I will try and look you up and buy you lunch if you like..I hope and pray that everything turns out ok for you and keep on keepin on and watch your six..
Sad to say the USA will not extend medicare out of the US. If you are able , you can return to the USA and get back on medicare. But you will receive your social security, no problem. Buying a Thai health plan is the best.
Good too see you back up and about mate..we all missed you.. good luck with your recovery and hope you're back to your old self again soon..be back Pattaya end of the month, hope to see you around fit and well...stay safe and keep well mate..
Keep up the good fight and best of luck to you Kev..
It amazes me that so many Brits think that after they emigrate to another country they believe they can return at a future date to have free treatment. it's not the case. Just having a British passport does not entitle you to a free lifetime of health service.
By the way, Get well soon Kev! Keep fighting the fight!!
you pay in all them years then can,t get any think back but people come here from all over the world and can get treatment so not right or fair and yet we can,t do any think about it,
Strong Thai baht will keep a few tourists away.
Good to see you back.
Look better Kev, have you had the op? As you said around the 21st?
You are spot on Kevin. You need to pay 150 pct of the cost for NHS treatment if you become non resident in UK. One of the pitfalls of becoming non UK resident
The NHS thing is a disgrace Kev. The daftest part is when you reach retirement age you cease paying national insurance contributions so if you live in the UK or not you don't pay anymore into the system. So where is the logic in that? If someone had moved overseas before they had paid in the required number of qualifying years i could understand it but when you reach retirement age you have paid years more than that. It's just plain wrong. Same thing with the state pension. It's frozen at the point you leave the UK in some countries but not in others. Thailand is one of them unfortunately. Here's a good one. If you are resident in the USA you get the annual increment. If you are in Canada or New Zealand which are both commonwealth countries you don't. Go figure. There's a whole crazy list of anomalies like that on the DWP website. I know it's because they have reciprocal agreements with some countries and not others but why not? There is an elderly lady over here who has been running an online campaign for years to try and change this but the government refuse, they say it will cost too much. Just as a final kick in the nuts even when i move overseas the government will still tax my income from my state and works pensions at the full rate of income tax. B*stards!
Glad to see you feeling better Kev. I get the not wanting to go back to UK 100%, its getting worse.
Unfortunately I'm going to be snookered soon when I come to renew my Non O visa. Whatever way I do it, I cannot get insurance less than £2000. The new Thai insurers will not insure me as I'm over a certain BMI, not thai midget size. European insurers will insure but nothing covered as just about everything comes under pre existing conditions, & they still want £2000 for what would basically be accident insurance.
I'm sick of people who give advice who think they are covered, when if You drill down a few questions, their totally NOT, but I'm sick of pissing on people's chips.
So my advice is don't believe for 1 second an insurer will not try to wriggle out of coughing up & even if you've visited a GP before you travel, ensure you disclose everything because they check everything.
Even though I can pay for reasonable health care self funding, it's not enough under new rules. They need to look again, I would even be prepared to pay monthly contributions but of course that's not an option.
Best of luck in the future Kev, I'll try to share a beer with you next time I'm in Pattaya & hope that good man rob is around as I'd like to buy him a drink too.👍🇬🇧🏴
Sorry Kev but completely misinformed, you can walk into any hospital and they will treat you. How would they even know you haven't been in UK for the last 6 months, it not like you have to takr your passport in the the hospital or show tax records to prove anything. Well easy to go hospital even if you been away for 20 yrs
I agree. If you pay Class D contributions while overseas you can maintain your NHS status. Having an address and being on the electoral role more so. No Doctors can ask to see your passports.
They will check info about you eg.national insurance,household rates and then ask why you have not claimed things like heating allowance.Kev has no address only in Spain and don't forget he would have to.go on a waiting list for the op.Maybe Kev has not paid into the system for his pension this will all come out when they find out who he is .
You will get treatment on the NHS for a medical emergency regardless. I have a pal who returned to the UK from Thailand who got treatment with no problem. Also, the UK state retirement increases are preserved for those who live in the Philippines. Go figure
My Nan was out of the uk for 25 years she came back and uses the nhs no problem . Wish you all the best Kev you look much healthier mate
Nice to see you back out & about again Kev your looking stronger, . keep up the exercise its gonna make U stronger for the Op..
Kev I agree with what U say about your NHS rights , but you need to check out your NI contributions, you must have paid most if not all of your qualifying credits for your state pension.
As long as you have paid at lease 10 full years contributions then you will qualify for something.
You can check your contributions credits on Gov.uk pensions just open your account to get your I'd & password & your NI #.
I will try send you link to your email.
Good luck.
This was a very interesting topic regarding the NHS and ex-pats returning for health care. The American Medicare rules for people abroad seem to be quite different. Medicare Part A and Part B and Part D do not cover foreign medical expenses. But as long as the ex-pat was eligible for and signed up for Medicare and paid the premiums, whether within the U.S. or abroad, there doesn't seem to be a restriction on traveling back to the U.S. for medical care under the program. The Supplemental coverage also seems to work the same way, keep paying the premiums, they don't care where the subscriber lives, but services are only covered within the U.S. Supplemental Plan F is very good, it covers all co-pays, co-insurance, and deductibles, plus covers extended hospital stays.
Great to see you out and about Kev.
Ive been told by guys that have gone back for treatment that as long as you are still registered at a UK doctor surgery and have a postal address its all good.
Also if you do go back and assume normal residence in the UK,NHS is automatically restored.
100% correct know a few UK expats who have gone back to the UK for NHS treatment with no issues
@Lee Adams - I don't want to argue with KEV and you are correct but, in some NHS areas within the UK once you are out of the UK for more than three months, you can be de-registered by your doctor despite the fact that you have a permanent address in the UK. If you are de-registered from a doctors practice, it is illegal for a doctor to proscribe any medication. All they can do is refer you to your local hospital for treatment. Failing that, you will be able to go to any hospital in the UK without a doctor's referral, with your passport and receive free treatment there. Provision is also made for inclusion on an "Emergency Patient Treatment" list, especially for cancer patient treatment. At the back of your registration card, if you have been issued with one it states, "Please return this card to the address above if you are leaving the UK for more than three months or hand it to an Immigration Officer on departure". This plastic Medical Card replaced the old paper National Health Card which shows your National Insurance number. You do not loose any benefits including state pension rights if you have fully contributed to the National Insurance Scheme at the time of your retirement. If you return to the UK and have a permanent address there, you are entitled by law to medical treatment as a UK citizen and to re-register with a doctor of your choice, always assuming of course that the practice will take you on their books in the area you live in.
@@williamcoyle4022 I would refer you to the government's website gov.uk.
Good to see you are up and at it again Kev. Enjoy the massage, you have more than earned it. And a shout out to Rob a true and faithful friend of yourself and your subscribers.
Great to see you looking better Kev! Good luck with all your treatments.
Your looking stronger Kevin. I wish you strength to keep fighting. I don't understand your protractors concerning your NHS. Anyone should know coverage disappears when you lose your residency after 6 months. We have the same situation here in Can. They'll still take your taxes though.lol . Anyway I wish you happier days ahead. Cheers.
Hi Kev i have put £100 in your paypal...good luck with the operation mate
Kevin your looking good bro thank you for not showing the food you know it makes me drool lol 😂.. enjoy your Chihuahua massage lol , thank you for helping others with the information and pit falls of leaving there countries without the information they need .
I for one didn’t know about the nhs cheers God’s speed
You are Looking much better kev my prayers are for your full recovery so glad you are staying and being treated in Thailand hospitals in uk are not good mate trust me my mum died at 46 she caught MRSA and c.diff was awful all the best mate if i win lotto will make sure you are ok mate 🙏🙏🙏
Sax I know it’s mental ! All these Gap year kids coming back to the UK from God knows where with super Aids and no treatment !! Thanks for the heads up !
As long as you keep a postal address you should’ve been fine. However, if you need to pay rent, food etc probably costs the same as what you would pay for first class treatment in Thailand.
Great to see another Vid and thanks to Rob .Hope you are on the road to recovery now keep well.
Saw on another UK vlogers channel that UK national heath will only treat for free an expat that has been out of the country for a while if he/she can prove that they are back in the country to stay for good. The key words being "resident" rather than "citizen". Also seem to recall the requirement to be back in the country for 6 months. but not sure on that one. I know Aussies are good for 5 years out of the country before Medicare abandons them.
It’s up to you, sir.
I reckon to start drinking a detox water made with turmeric, cinnamon and oregano oil.
Also brew your own reishi mushroom tea. Drink these at least 3 times per day.
If you can find a stalk of celery, you can juice it and drink it 3 times per day.
Good luck!
I feel your pain had a heart attack on the 18thJuly just out of hospital had a stent fitted. Get well both of us soon! :-)
Good to see you back Kev, place aint been the same without ya, Robs been a good Pal keeping all informed and helping with everything.
Good to see you are eating again and on the mend Kev. Hope your recovery goes well for you and that you will be up and running about very soon. A big thumbs up to Rob too👍. Keep smiling.
I'm with you on this one Kev
You're doing exactly the right thing by staying here for your medical treatment!
I was back in the UK in May of this year, I had to pay a visit to my GP with my ongoing medical condition.
I was made to feel most unwelcome because they probably knew that I just came back to the UK to use the NHS etc? I worked all my life in the UK, served my country, paid all my taxes -still paying taxes on my pensions etc.
I've now decided to return back to Thailand, avoid the no entitlement to NHS etc.
God bless you and get well soon
Mate I'm sorry but all this six months crap is what it is crap I was out for years I mean on and off for Forty years had been living in Thailand for years took ill with a very serious heart condition had my surgery in Bangkok Pattaya under Dr.Kitti flew back to UK as soon as I could and was seen straight away no questions asked so whoever is spreading this nonsense before this I lived in California from 1978 - 1990 came back again without a problem to suggest the NHS will not treat you is ridiculous to say the cost of living in the UK is too expensive again that's a myth I was paying five hundred pounds a month for a condo in Avenue then water and electric on top the pound is catastrophic against the baht and everything is twice what it was even my Thai partner of ten years who is with me in the UK at the minute says its much cheaper here I do sympathize with the position your in but it does seem like your trying to justify in your own mind to stay there Thailand can do that to you I honestly hope things work out for the best but I stand by what I've said you should come back to the UK
Lots of places in Thailand sell excellent health insurance, there is no need to go back to the UK for treatment.
Sadly, I doubt that Kevin could get health insurance now
Looking and sounding good Kev! Yes you're right about being screwed by the UK.No NHS cover despite having paid in most if our lives and our pensions frozen. Yet the bloidu politicians vote themselves above Inflation lag rises every year and claim 100's of thousands in expenses. Not to mention the backhanders for making life easy for the rich and multinational companies. It makes me want to puke! Rant over! Take care mate and continue getting stronger!
Sorry kev. I'm one of your subs that said about going back to UK for treatment. As I said last week I didn't know the rules or laws were that strict. I ex pat living in Spain and the rules are slightly different. Hope I not put my foot in it. You certainly look better today than last week. Glad you eating better. Best wishes.
HEY KEVIN, YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD. I'VE BEEN OFFERING UP PRAYERS FOR YOU EVERY NIGHT AND HOPING FOR YOUR SPEEDY RECOVERY. I'M COMING BACK TO THAILAND AS SOON AS I GET EVERYTHING DONE HERE IN THE U.S. AND WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO COME DOWN AND VISIT WITH YOU. I SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO THAILAND AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND WILL MAKE MY WAY DOWN TO YOUR AREA SOMETIME IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER. UNTIL THEN, SAFE LIFE TO YOU MY FRIEND.
How much is your health insurance in Thailand? If you could choose, would you get your treatments in the UK or Thailand?
Health insurance for a guy his age would of been about 25k per year before his illness. Might be a lot more after his recovery and it might no cover any further cancer treatments. If you watch his other videos you will hear that he was planning on buying health insurance, unfortunately he got sick just before he bought it. He is been treated at Bangkok hospital and I am sure this is just as good as NHS in UK.
Stay strong Kev ! I hope everything works out wel for youl.
Good to see you again Kev, we all understand that you are not able to do your regular videos, the most important thing is to take care of yourself.
I’m from America and yet I have had to explain to people from the UK on many channels including Robs why you didn’t go back to the UK for treatment, maybe hearing it straight from you will help.
Take care and we will see you soon.
Cheers 🍻
Good to see you out and about Kev. I know I'm repeating what everyone else is saying but it's nice to see youy're able to post vids again. Pitinis is a great little restaurant. Had breakfast and dinner there many times. Good food and good prices. Hope you're properly on the mend mate and I'm hoping you'll be well enough for a meet when I'm back in September. All the best to you.
Kev, I must say u are looking a lot better in this vid 👌keep pushing forward buddy.. great vid as always... minus the exchange rate lol
You're looking much better Kev. Your weight looks like it's going up nicely.
When will you show receipts for your gofundme donors?
Keep strong Kev, yes, Rob was great in supporting you...get well soon...
Thanks mate shame we have to learn by your mistakes good luck
Nice to see you back kev. Get stronger
When you say after 6 months you have no benefits in the UK just wondering how would they know? I've not had to give any info apart from my name and address (no passport etc) when visiting hospitals/doctors.
You're looking a lot better mate I wish you well and hope to catch up with you you in October if you're well enough keep up the good work
Kevin just a thought , I know your set on having this op in Thailand and you have indicated as to the huge costs of it , also you have listed costs of returning to the UK to have it done . However there are short term all inclusive rental options available on 3 / 6 / 12 month availabiities around the £700 a month mark or even all inclusive rooms at £300 a month . This is as you well know a major op , so bearing that in mind as opposed to having it in a Thai hospital + the huge costs it might well even at this stage be worth a second thought . I could even pick you up at Heathrow and cart you about . Anyway all the best with however it turns up
Looking good Kev.
Kev, you look much better today! Thats great!
Nice to see you looking better, keep fighting Kev
After 6 months out of the UK you do in fact lose your Benefit rights for 3 months after your return & then have to have what they call a Habitual Residency test and provide evidence of residency. However, I'm pretty sure you don't lose your right to NHS treatment as a British Citizen , let's face it you can get NHS treatment over here even if you're a foreign tourist & probably won't even get a bill for it. However, Kev's certainly right about the associated costs of moving back, even on a temporary basis, easily a Grand a month on rent & Council tax alone.
Glad you addressed everyone's questions and concerns why you did not return to the UK for treatment . Mate you look so much better then when i saw you in April . Massive improvement . We are back at the end of October you will have had your op by then and by jesus we will be taking you out to put the nose bag on no worries there .
You are looking and sounding great! Hoping for a meet up catch up again at the end of the year Kev!
Thanks Kev, wishing you all the very best , your looking great mate .
Great to see you back.
You looking well on your road to recovery,and pleased with yourself
Cheers Chris Australia
Great video Kev and you’re looking good mate. I didn’t realise us British taxpayers lost our healthcare after 6 months (while non tax paying medical tourists, foreign immigrants & lifelong welfare recipients get it for free).
Looking forward to the next video. God bless.
Good to see you looking better.. Get those properties in Spain sold and get the very best treatment available 👍👍
Good to see you up and about in Pattaya ⁉️🇹🇭 Hopefully all is good, Stay well 👌👍👍👍