BELIEVE THIS MAN. I didn’t hear this information on time, and I have lost my children. The church claimed they would help and support me at first, but they do not. These men fool almost EVERYONE. Liars, hypocrites, and worse. God will judge.
He went to the front of the church bawling and squalling at the top of his lungs, making sure everyone heard how scared he was, because I would die and go to hell. All because I finally got away from him. He loved drama as long as everyone felt sorry for him. He loves playing the victim. He sure didn't tell anyone the years of hell I lived in because of him. The sight, and sound of him makes me want to vomit.
I’m here right now. Absolute torture, every second feels like a lifetime. I went through a period of time where his smell made me nauseous. I now know that was my body’s defense to his abuse.
This is my wife to a T The church pastors and leaders have made a hero out of her. They have never believed me what she is like in private. My therapist says she is a narcissist. My psychiatric nurse says she is a narcissist and I need to protect myself from her because she is dangerous. But around her church friends She is the sweetest woman you would ever want to meet.
Churches and society in general need to teach and learn about narcissism. I've talked to so many people about this, and they seem either ambivalent or dismissive as they can't fathom someone they've been in relations with is a narc.
I bought Enough is Enough for my son. He didnt read it all I think but he read Enough😜 And although I believe he could have prepared better had he finished it, the point is he got out. He got back yo going to church, he has 50% custody (I believe it could have been more) and is much more relaxed and is acting much more like the man he was before all the abuse started.
@@Nkm204 oh!! This sounds so hard. Heart breaker for sure!! Yes! Churches can be so off the mark on this issue. Your son seems to want to please God and be obedient. Which is good but can put you right in the tough spot your’re in! Enough is enough does go through some scriptural basis for the case for divorcing a faithless spouse. The key is Matthew 18. “If a brother sins against you…”. Any church that is not willing to go through your conflict with you and follow the steps of bringing witnesses, then bringing in the elders to try to bring the sinning partner into the light and then finally barring that partner from God’s table (eucharist/communion/Lord’s supper) for their unrepentance, then that is not a church. That is nothing more than an unholy social club. Completely powerless to do God’s business as instructed in His Word! My best advice is for you to get educated up!! Read Enough is Enough. Read Slay The Bully by Rebecca Zung. Watch the videos. I recommend Dr Clark, Zung, certain videos of HG Tudor were really good gor getting a thorough grip on the traits of the narcissist. I also listened to lots of Richard Grannon. I became fluent in Narc! So when my dear boy cane home after a beat down from her and described her actions and words I could dissect the behaviour for him. He was very receptive though. I had the great fortune that early on in the discard phase of her abuse, she gaslit him yo think he needed to talk to a therapist and her very own therapist told my son in a private session without her “you are not damaged or crazy. She is abusing you”. That was a huge turning point for him. Please please pray to the Lord!! 1Sam 24:12 is your constant prayer: May the LORD judge between you and me. And may the LORD avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you. That was David’s prayer regarding his oppressor Saul. Have faith get wise persevere. And after a beat down from her is your only real window of opportunity with him. That is when he is receptive to the scriptures and to the teachings of counsellors and to offers of help. Please persevere!!! You are the mom. You live that young man in a way *only you* can do.
Yes, having a FORM of godliness, that was my "Christian" narc ex-husband. When I finally left (with my sanity barely intact) my church threatened to vote ME out 😐. I've never regretted leaving him. Bless you for your wisdom. ☺️
I am with you I have been through very very bad and difficult times with my covert narc husband for 17 yrs. in September 2023 God sets me free from him and God moved me out of that really toxic relationship and home. I am following Dr. David E. Clarke’s wise soon I will filling device. Please don’t lose hope and Faith God sees our sufferings and feels our pains. Our Lord Jesus is with us always. Trust in Him he will bring us out of the sufferings and pains. in my sufferings times I told myself my pain to comprise my Lord Jesus Chris's pains and sufferings, my pains and sufferings was nothing. I keeping my eyes on Jesus this gave me peace, comfort hope and strength. God is with you. Amen❤🙏 Loved worship song Be Okay by Lauren Daigle
It's as though you know him. Unbelievable. He has a whole church community and pastor see me as an evil woman. How could they not? His "light" is so bright, they only see me in a dark shadow. This kind of wolf in sheep's clothing is unreal.. You're spot on...AGAIN!
I finally left my covert narcissist wife with my 19 year old son after 33 years. Even from a distance she has made our lives nothing short of a living hell. I have endured financial abuse, character assassination, stonewalling on major issues etc. In my early 60’s it has been 2 years of pure evil as a result of the narcissistic injury my wife suffered when my son and I left. No one believes that a Pretty Christian Piano Teacher would be capable of such destructive and malevolent behaviour. As a man no one believes me and only my son and almighty God know the truth.
I believe you. My husband presents himself in a great way to others, but at home he takes his stress out on me and nobody believes it except my kids and my therapist. I’m ready to leave. Your post is an inspiration. Hang in there. 💚
@@paisleyduck I believe you and God believes you, He sees our sufferings and feels our pains. God brought you and your son out of her abuses. God is with you and your son always! Thanks for sharing! God bless you and your son Amen❤❤🙏
Exactly. My 2nd Narc was a cop, and he LEFT my church (they didn't worship the ground he walked on) and went to a Milk-toast church that made him OVER their Security.
You are a blessing David! I have lived this horror story for so long. My daughter knows the truth that’s for sure. Praying for God to give me a way out. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 A new start somewhere far away
Yep. 100 percent true! My narc used to argue with me about what the Bible says about sin and then if we went somewhere, he would quote me like it was his idea. One time he repeated to new friends what I had said and pretended he was so spiritual. They said he should be a pastor 😂 His real opinion of sin was a sloppy once saved always saved so I can do whatever I want attitude.
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THIS. this is what makes me skeptical of overly religious people. my aunt has been married to a guy like this for years, she's a mess and their kid is a mess too, and he recently decided to try to sexually groom me for years, i prayed for him and gave him the benefit of the doubt but finally realized i'd had enough and he wasn't going to change as long as he had the false "Godly" self to project. and then "we're all sinners" to fall back on. this is a big part of systematic abuse in religious communities. certainly not just Christianity. I would love for you to address more of this because I suspect it's the underpinning of a huge chunk of abuse, especially abuse in "Christian" homes. For me the doctrine of vicarious atonement enables these abusers even more, not to mention the biblical cherrypicking you mentioned. they'll quote and twist every one of Paul's verses on submitting to your husband but forget the one about treating your wife like Christ treats the Church. Praying for anyone going thru this. my aunt has chronic health conditions because of her narc. they will destroy you, and get in the way of you truly serving God
Yes, so true every word. Because he was Christian and a pastor I fought for my marriage all it did was that it drove me nuts. I spent a week in the mental ward. At the end he abandoned me married with in months somebody 17 years younger and started a church. Narc really don't care it is all about them. People that act like that can know God.
When together I tried to encourage him to have relationships with good men in the church but he refused. Every Sunday when we did go to church he would come home and be so so angry. I wanted to stop going to church because of his rage afterwards. Now 3 years separated and he's all those men's best friends and has not missed a service
My husband directs most of his negative , hateful, punitive behavior towards my 13 yo GS and treats my 9 yo GD like a princess. He wants to go to church, but can't extend any kind of empathy or compassion or mercy or grace to either of my GSs. We raised them....I couldn't stand by one more day and watch him emotionally abuse my GS.
I'm so sorry for you sir. Men are also mocked even more if they ask for help. Maybe the focus on women is because of the times? Women were/are trapped financially, legally, culturally (still) for a long time.
I was married to one first. The best thing to do is to only hang around them when they're around other people. If you can, make dinner and run to a group, go for a jog, go shopping, etc Just run yelling "dinner's on the table". Take the kids to the park. Always have the phone recording and upload it to TikTok, Facebook, etc. As soon as they come in have the phone recording and as soon as you walk out click "upload". I tried sleeping and he would come jump up and down on the bed, I'd go to the living room and he'd sit on me. I didn't have a phone with a recorder back then. Call the police to make a report for every single event. Don't tell him, but just go to the police department when you're upset to get a report number to show a pattern. Don't bother with any church members he can manipulate or has access to. You need records and recordings. If I could go back 25-30 years I'd have done all this
YES! My soon to be ex narc is in a new area I haven't been and PREACHES when the pastor takes a break. He's going through a divorce. Do you think anyone knows? If so, they certainly don't know the reasons.
🎵Wings Like a Dove 🎵 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh, that I had wings like a dove! Then I would fly away and be at rest; Behold, then I would wander far off Oh, that I had wings like a dove! 🎵 I would wander far off from terrors of death; I would wander far off from strife; I would wander far off from violence; From the darkness of days - to life! From the darkness of days - to life! Oh, that I had wings like a dove! I would lodge in the wilderness; Behold, then none shall steal my peace. Oh, that I had wings like a dove! 🎵 I would lodge where there is no fearfulness; I would lodge where there is no moans; I would lodge where there is no trembling From a wrath that’s heavier than stones… From a wrath that’s heavier than stones… Oh, that I had wings like a dove! I would hurry to a safe shelter From the stormy wind and violent storm Oh, that I had wings like a dove! 🎵 I would hurry to a shelter of quiet peace; I would hurry to a shelter of calm; I would hurry to a shelter of Loving Arms Full of healing and harmonious balm… Full of healing and harmonious balm… (According to Psalm 55:1-8) 4/20/24 I was reading through Psalm 55 this morning and then I heard these words come together…🤷🏻♀️ I keep telling myself: I am NOT depressed! I am NOT depressed! I am NOT depressed!… But maybe someone somewhere somehow might need to read or hear them words… it is a prayer, after all… Things have been relatively calm in the house…we just get up, shake the dust and keep on going🤷🏻♀️ Like nothing EVER happened! Sometimes I wonder if it has always been like that for couples ever since creation … always someone there to blame and cast a first stone, then many all throughout life…. I’m still looking for that KEY to tranquility. Looking at Jesus, at the end of it all-He was crucified. Oh well, boys and girls, let’s try to have a beautiful wonderful blessed and joyful weekend! Even if it is all by ourselves! God is good! All the time!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 ❤️ ☕️ 🍫 📖 🙏🏻 ❤️
Dr. David E. Clarke Phd - One Size-Fits-All, Never Fails (unless *YOU* don't do it right) Plan 1. Pay me for a "phone session" and I will summarily diagnose your husband as a narcissist and abuser. 2. I then give you my permission, AND GOD'S PERMISSION, to leave and divorce him. (Remember, I stand for marriage!) 3. Keep buying all my books and paying me for individual phone counseling well into the future. There is no need to any input from anyone else. I refuse to listen to anyone other than you. I am the expert and I know everything! No re-evaluation for individuals, circumstances or situations. My word is absolute truth and I am ALWAYS right.
That Lord, Lord scripture is about people depending on their works for salvation. What is the will of the Father? To believe on the Son. “But Lord, we did so many wonderful WORKS in your name”. They are depending upon their works to “earn” salvation. That’s why God didn’t know them. They never depended on Jesus alone for salvation. 😊
I disagree. Do you want to learn as quickly as possible educational content or do you want people wasting time editing? This isn’t a major motion picture for your entertainment’ 💕
BELIEVE THIS MAN. I didn’t hear this information on time, and I have lost my children. The church claimed they would help and support me at first, but they do not. These men fool almost EVERYONE. Liars, hypocrites, and worse. God will judge.
He went to the front of the church bawling and squalling at the top of his lungs, making sure everyone heard how scared he was, because I would die and go to hell. All because I finally got away from him. He loved drama as long as everyone felt sorry for him. He loves playing the victim. He sure didn't tell anyone the years of hell I lived in because of him. The sight, and sound of him makes me want to vomit.
I’m here right now. Absolute torture, every second feels like a lifetime. I went through a period of time where his smell made me nauseous. I now know that was my body’s defense to his abuse.
This is my wife to a T The church pastors and leaders have made a hero out of her. They have never believed me what she is like in private. My therapist says she is a narcissist. My psychiatric nurse says she is a narcissist and I need to protect myself from her because she is dangerous. But around her church friends She is the sweetest woman you would ever want to meet.
thank you for bringing up that women can do this to men too. praying for you guys.
Enraging! I feel for you! I’ve seen it!
My wife also
Thank you for putting into words the last 21 years of my life. How do we get churches to wake up to this ????
Churches and society in general need to teach and learn about narcissism. I've talked to so many people about this, and they seem either ambivalent or dismissive as they can't fathom someone they've been in relations with is a narc.
I bought Enough is Enough for my son. He didnt read it all I think but he read Enough😜 And although I believe he could have prepared better had he finished it, the point is he got out. He got back yo going to church, he has 50% custody (I believe it could have been more) and is much more relaxed and is acting much more like the man he was before all the abuse started.
@@Nkm204 oh!! This sounds so hard. Heart breaker for sure!! Yes! Churches can be so off the mark on this issue. Your son seems to want to please God and be obedient. Which is good but can put you right in the tough spot your’re in! Enough is enough does go through some scriptural basis for the case for divorcing a faithless spouse. The key is Matthew 18. “If a brother sins against you…”. Any church that is not willing to go through your conflict with you and follow the steps of bringing witnesses, then bringing in the elders to try to bring the sinning partner into the light and then finally barring that partner from God’s table (eucharist/communion/Lord’s supper) for their unrepentance, then that is not a church. That is nothing more than an unholy social club. Completely powerless to do God’s business as instructed in His Word! My best advice is for you to get educated up!! Read Enough is Enough. Read Slay The Bully by Rebecca Zung. Watch the videos. I recommend Dr Clark, Zung, certain videos of HG Tudor were really good gor getting a thorough grip on the traits of the narcissist. I also listened to lots of Richard Grannon. I became fluent in Narc! So when my dear boy cane home after a beat down from her and described her actions and words I could dissect the behaviour for him. He was very receptive though. I had the great fortune that early on in the discard phase of her abuse, she gaslit him yo think he needed to talk to a therapist and her very own therapist told my son in a private session without her “you are not damaged or crazy. She is abusing you”. That was a huge turning point for him. Please please pray to the Lord!! 1Sam 24:12 is your constant prayer: May the LORD judge between you and me. And may the LORD avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you.
That was David’s prayer regarding his oppressor Saul. Have faith get wise persevere.
And after a beat down from her is your only real window of opportunity with him. That is when he is receptive to the scriptures and to the teachings of counsellors and to offers of help. Please persevere!!! You are the mom. You live that young man in a way *only you* can do.
Yes, having a FORM of godliness, that was my "Christian" narc ex-husband. When I finally left (with my sanity barely intact) my church threatened to vote ME out 😐. I've never regretted leaving him. Bless you for your wisdom. ☺️
I am on the battlefield of an indescribable hell here on earth.
I am with you I have been through very very bad and difficult times with my covert narc husband for 17 yrs. in September 2023 God sets me free from him and God moved me out of that really toxic relationship and home. I am following Dr. David E. Clarke’s wise soon I will filling device. Please don’t lose hope and Faith God sees our sufferings and feels our pains. Our Lord Jesus is with us always. Trust in Him he will bring us out of the sufferings and pains. in my sufferings times I told myself my pain to comprise my Lord Jesus Chris's pains and sufferings, my pains and sufferings was nothing. I keeping my eyes on Jesus this gave me peace, comfort hope and strength. God is with you. Amen❤🙏
Loved worship song Be Okay by Lauren Daigle
It's as though you know him. Unbelievable. He has a whole church community and pastor see me as an evil woman. How could they not? His "light" is so bright, they only see me in a dark shadow. This kind of wolf in sheep's clothing is unreal.. You're spot on...AGAIN!
I finally left my covert narcissist wife with my 19 year old son after 33 years. Even from a distance she has made our lives nothing short of a living hell. I have endured financial abuse, character assassination, stonewalling on major issues etc. In my early 60’s it has been 2 years of pure evil as a result of the narcissistic injury my wife suffered when my son and I left. No one believes that a Pretty Christian Piano Teacher would be capable of such destructive and malevolent behaviour. As a man no one believes me and only my son and almighty God know the truth.
I believe you. My husband presents himself in a great way to others, but at home he takes his stress out on me and nobody believes it except my kids and my therapist. I’m ready to leave. Your post is an inspiration. Hang in there. 💚
@@paisleyduck I believe you and God believes you, He sees our sufferings and feels our pains. God brought you and your son out of her abuses. God is with you and your son always! Thanks for sharing! God bless you and your son Amen❤❤🙏
Exactly. My 2nd Narc was a cop, and he LEFT my church (they didn't worship the ground he walked on) and went to a Milk-toast church that made him OVER their Security.
You are a blessing David! I have lived this horror story for so long. My daughter knows the truth that’s for sure. Praying for God to give me a way out. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 A new start somewhere far away
Yep. 100 percent true! My narc used to argue with me about what the Bible says about sin and then if we went somewhere, he would quote me like it was his idea. One time he repeated to new friends what I had said and pretended he was so spiritual. They said he should be a pastor 😂 His real opinion of sin was a sloppy once saved always saved so I can do whatever I want attitude.
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THIS. this is what makes me skeptical of overly religious people. my aunt has been married to a guy like this for years, she's a mess and their kid is a mess too, and he recently decided to try to sexually groom me for years, i prayed for him and gave him the benefit of the doubt but finally realized i'd had enough and he wasn't going to change as long as he had the false "Godly" self to project. and then "we're all sinners" to fall back on.
this is a big part of systematic abuse in religious communities. certainly not just Christianity. I would love for you to address more of this because I suspect it's the underpinning of a huge chunk of abuse, especially abuse in "Christian" homes. For me the doctrine of vicarious atonement enables these abusers even more, not to mention the biblical cherrypicking you mentioned. they'll quote and twist every one of Paul's verses on submitting to your husband but forget the one about treating your wife like Christ treats the Church.
Praying for anyone going thru this. my aunt has chronic health conditions because of her narc. they will destroy you, and get in the way of you truly serving God
Thank you!! You are a God send!!! The work you do is so admirable and helps so many women that are shamed and manipulated. Thank you!!!!
Oooh, you just touched on a viral video of Victoria Osteen. She said, "you're not doing it for God, you're doing it for yourself ".
Yes, so true every word. Because he was Christian and a pastor I fought for my marriage all it did was that it drove me nuts. I spent a week in the mental ward. At the end he abandoned me married with in months somebody 17 years younger and started a church. Narc really don't care it is all about them. People that act like that can know God.
The narc sounds like the lucifer right before God threw him out of heaven
Thanks, Dr. Clarke! You are a wealth of information!
Thank you for this, Dr. David! 😇🙏🏻✨ You just described my biological father to a tee! 💯
You speak the truth! Love your videos.
When together I tried to encourage him to have relationships with good men in the church but he refused. Every Sunday when we did go to church he would come home and be so so angry. I wanted to stop going to church because of his rage afterwards. Now 3 years separated and he's all those men's best friends and has not missed a service
My church supports everything and so does my pastor
Thank you for the wonderful information From co-dependent to Independent.
My husband directs most of his negative , hateful, punitive behavior towards my 13 yo GS and treats my 9 yo GD like a princess. He wants to go to church, but can't extend any kind of empathy or compassion or mercy or grace to either of my GSs. We raised them....I couldn't stand by one more day and watch him emotionally abuse my GS.
Why’s it always only men???😂 this describes my wife
I'm so sorry for you sir. Men are also mocked even more if they ask for help. Maybe the focus on women is because of the times? Women were/are trapped financially, legally, culturally (still) for a long time.
I was married to one first.
The best thing to do is to only hang around them when they're around other people.
If you can, make dinner and run to a group, go for a jog, go shopping, etc
Just run yelling "dinner's on the table". Take the kids to the park.
Always have the phone recording and upload it to TikTok, Facebook, etc.
As soon as they come in have the phone recording and as soon as you walk out click "upload".
I tried sleeping and he would come jump up and down on the bed, I'd go to the living room and he'd sit on me.
I didn't have a phone with a recorder back then. Call the police to make a report for every single event. Don't tell him, but just go to the police department when you're upset to get a report number to show a pattern.
Don't bother with any church members he can manipulate or has access to. You need records and recordings.
If I could go back 25-30 years I'd have done all this
I can’t believe what he said . He described my ex husband to the T
Prophetic. As always.
A mother brother narcissistic team...including my sister inlaw.. she's a bank auditor...big in the Lutheran church...fools them all. Got my boys...
YES! My soon to be ex narc is in a new area I haven't been and PREACHES when the pastor takes a break. He's going through a divorce. Do you think anyone knows? If so, they certainly don't know the reasons.
Speling it out as it is..!
Wow, you just described pastor J-mac.
FACTSSS! 🗣🙏❤️✨🎯💯‼️❗️
🎵Wings Like a Dove 🎵
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oh, that I had wings like a dove!
Then I would fly away and be at rest;
Behold, then I would wander far off
Oh, that I had wings like a dove!
🎵
I would wander far off from terrors of death;
I would wander far off from strife;
I would wander far off from violence;
From the darkness of days - to life!
From the darkness of days - to life!
Oh, that I had wings like a dove!
I would lodge in the wilderness;
Behold, then none shall steal my peace.
Oh, that I had wings like a dove!
🎵
I would lodge where there is no fearfulness;
I would lodge where there is no moans;
I would lodge where there is no trembling
From a wrath that’s heavier than stones…
From a wrath that’s heavier than stones…
Oh, that I had wings like a dove!
I would hurry to a safe shelter
From the stormy wind and violent storm
Oh, that I had wings like a dove!
🎵
I would hurry to a shelter of quiet peace;
I would hurry to a shelter of calm;
I would hurry to a shelter of Loving Arms
Full of healing and harmonious balm…
Full of healing and harmonious balm…
(According to Psalm 55:1-8)
4/20/24
I was reading through Psalm 55 this morning and then I heard these words come together…🤷🏻♀️
I keep telling myself:
I am NOT depressed!
I am NOT depressed!
I am NOT depressed!…
But maybe someone somewhere somehow might need to read or hear them words… it is a prayer, after all…
Things have been relatively calm in the house…we just get up, shake the dust and keep on going🤷🏻♀️
Like nothing EVER happened!
Sometimes I wonder if it has always been like that for couples ever since creation … always someone there to blame and cast a first stone, then many all throughout life….
I’m still looking for that KEY to tranquility. Looking at Jesus, at the end of it all-He was crucified.
Oh well, boys and girls, let’s try to have a beautiful wonderful blessed and joyful weekend! Even if it is all by ourselves!
God is good! All the time!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
❤️ ☕️ 🍫 📖 🙏🏻 ❤️
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Dr. David E. Clarke Phd - One Size-Fits-All, Never Fails (unless *YOU* don't do it right) Plan
1. Pay me for a "phone session" and I will summarily diagnose your husband as a narcissist and abuser.
2. I then give you my permission, AND GOD'S PERMISSION, to leave and divorce him. (Remember, I stand for marriage!)
3. Keep buying all my books and paying me for individual phone counseling well into the future.
There is no need to any input from anyone else. I refuse to listen to anyone other than you.
I am the expert and I know everything! No re-evaluation for individuals, circumstances or situations.
My word is absolute truth and I am ALWAYS right.
pathological liar
That Lord, Lord scripture is about people depending on their works for salvation. What is the will of the Father? To believe on the Son. “But Lord, we did so many wonderful WORKS in your name”. They are depending upon their works to “earn” salvation. That’s why God didn’t know them. They never depended on Jesus alone for salvation. 😊
Its SO STUPID
You met my ex, did you?😢😅
And in my case, his God is his mommy!! #normanbates
Hello
Pay attention to video editing also.
This is quite low, edit in good style.
Because it is very important in your video.🧅
Agree at heart. 🌶️
Definitely yes. 🫑
Yes, video editing is definitely low. 🌰
I disagree. Do you want to learn as quickly as possible educational content or do you want people wasting time editing?
This isn’t a major motion picture for your entertainment’
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